No rep points for raid points?

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Am I missing something or is there some reason I did not get any rep points for the raid points? I highly doubt there are 100 active clans on Devianne that had more raid points as a clan?
PLAYERS with raid score in the top 100 give points to their associated clans.

not CLANS with raid scores.
I just asked this same question as a response to another thread. My clan is pretty active with raiding/4 seps/rifts and we have a lot of people in the top 200 on the server. We didn't get any rep points added today either.
Spudnik it said clans with raid scores in the top 100 not players in clans

Because potentially one clan can have all 100 people in the top 100

January 8, 2008

During the maintenance period on Tuesday, January 8, between 10:00 AM and 12:00 PM Central Time (5:00 PM GMT+1 to 7:00 PM GMT+1), the following changes will be made:

...

Clan

* The top 100 Raid-Point-earning clans per server will receive bonus Clan Reputation Points each month. These bonus reputation points will be added during the first maintenance of each month.

Players have raid rankings. not Clans.

Players (by association) must be the appropriate rank to earn points.
If that's the case, then Alyra needs to clarify her posts. She specifically says "top 100 Raid-Point-earning clans", not "top 100 Raid-Point-earning characters".

Players have raid rankings. not Clans.

Players (by association) must be the appropriate rank to earn points.

because you don't see it doesn't mean the rankings doesn't exist
(as with so many other things in L2 >_>
And those reward amounts posted would be totally ******ed if they were for the top 100 players.

It better be the sum of the points for the clan and not the individuals!!

PLAYERS with raid score in the top 100 give points to their associated clans.

not CLANS with raid scores.



Quote from Alyra's post in another thread:

I have some more info on the raid point ranking system (and will be adding this info to the website at some point). This system awards the top 100 Raid Point-earning clans on each server bonus Clan Rep. Points once a month. These points are awarded during the first regularly scheduled maintenance of the month.

Do Raid Points earned by Academy members count toward the clan’s overall Raid Point score?

Yes, they do.

Below is a breakdown of the ranking system and the points awarded to each rank.

Rank 1 = 2,500 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 2 = 1,800 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 3 = 1,400 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 4 = 1,200 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 5 = 900 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 6 = 700 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 7 = 600 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 8 = 400 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 9 = 300 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 10 = 200 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 11~50 = 50 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 51~100 = 25 Clan Reputation Points

When are the points figured? Is it the 1st of the month, the last day of the month, the last tue of the month, the first tue of the month.
so why didnt i get any rep points? There is no way in hell there were 100 more clans with raid points.
its top 100 players belonging to a clan ...
I've asked for a report of which clans on each server were awarded Clan Rep. Points during yesterday's maintenance. If for some reason the points did not get awarded, we'll fix it. My goal is to be able to post the top 10 or 25 clans on each server each month. Right now, I'm waiting for answers on a few e-mails I sent out yesterday. I'll let you all know what I find out.
For me, Alyra's post is pretty clear. At the end of the month, the total raid points of all clan members (including academy) are added. Then the clans are qualified according to this sum. The first 100 clans are rewarded as described.

If this is not the case, Alyra, you need to make a clarification immediately.

@Slycutter

In Devianne, it wil be a miracle if you find 50 clans that raid regulary...

I've asked for a report of which clans on each server were awarded Clan Rep. Points during yesterday's maintenance. If for some reason the points did not get awarded, we'll fix it. My goal is to be able to post the top 10 or 25 clans on each server each month. Right now, I'm waiting for answers on a few e-mails I sent out yesterday. I'll let you all know what I find out.



Why not post the whole list - that way you can see where you were and how many points your clan got vs other clans.

Do 1 post per Server, in the forums, locked so that only you can post - nothing to fancy, cuz we all know how fast this website gets updated.

This is assumeing that you can get a report that lists clans, total raid points, and what "place" they got or how many CRP were awarded.
Yeah, that would be the best imo. Kinda irks me that you cant see it anyway other than checking the rep points, and even then the range is so broad.
Yes, a list would be nice to have. Also the points totals would be interesting, so that you can see how much more the clans who are ahead of you raid.

I've asked for a report of which clans on each server were awarded Clan Rep. Points during yesterday's maintenance. If for some reason the points did not get awarded, we'll fix it. My goal is to be able to post the top 10 or 25 clans on each server each month. Right now, I'm waiting for answers on a few e-mails I sent out yesterday. I'll let you all know what I find out.



My clan was awarded points after the down time yesterday
Alyra, any response yet to the emails you sent out several days ago? We just need a clarification on if the points are rewarded based on the clan ranking (which presumably exists but which we can't get any info on) or by individual ranking (which is contrary to all posted notes about this).
We got our Rep points.
we got like 8500 points this time...

we got like 8500 points this time...



****!!!

SS or it never happened....

:)
We received 1850 rep points :D
since 8500 and 1850 are both not options for rewards i call you both liars

Rank 1 = 2,500 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 2 = 1,800 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 3 = 1,400 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 4 = 1,200 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 5 = 900 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 6 = 700 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 7 = 600 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 8 = 400 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 9 = 300 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 10 = 200 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 11~50 = 50 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 51~100 = 25 Clan Reputation Points
Youre a [censored] ******

since 8500 and 1850 are both not options for rewards i call you both liars

Rank 1 = 2,500 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 2 = 1,800 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 3 = 1,400 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 4 = 1,200 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 5 = 900 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 6 = 700 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 7 = 600 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 8 = 400 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 9 = 300 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 10 = 200 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 11~50 = 50 Clan Reputation Points
Rank 51~100 = 25 Clan Reputation Points



yea? where do you see that? cause it's cearly wrong. we got over 4k twice and at least 8k this time. (went from 36500 to 45000 after maintenance.)


Well the rep points list is from here -> http://boards.lineage2.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=1018491&page=2&vc=1

I still think those player ranks though, not clan ranks ... ie a clan collects raid points for all of its members that are in the top 100



that makes sense, I know for a fact our 1 party that does every raid boss in the game had rankings 1-9. I was ranked 2nd this month.



makes sense when HE says it but not when I say it.

WTH
It would be awesome to post a listing for each server of the points for each clan, so we can see who's active and all.

Would this be too onerous to post from the GMs?
Tavi - Alrya already said that she has requested a list of who got what, but knowning the speed that NC works, we will get the list Soon (TM).

Also - if it is in fact based on the toon and not the clan AND it turns out to be a bug... I do not know how they will recover from this....
alrya had posted it 1000x that is not based on members but the clan totals no clan can receive more then 1 bonus for raiding so yet again if you got the rep points it was a bug not what was intended.

And if it is wrong and alyra screwed then rep points for raids should be removed because its not fair for smaller clans because a large clan with 100 members could take almost all the rep points for the entire month.
Yes, a clan getting many spots can take many points. Not just the highest guy per clan. If alyra screwed up, tough [censored] pal, thats the way it works. Deal with it nub.
wouldnt be her screwup but NCSoft's. Like the top clan on the server already gets 25,000 points a month for have almost all the heros lets give them another 10,000 points for having those heros to do all the raids. It was introduce to help clans that arent neccessarily the powerhouse on the server because otherwise the gap between the the top and the up and comers grows then it creates boredom or you too dense to realize that?
Technically speaking, NCsoft doesnt screw up^^. Either you or she interpretted it incorrectly. Theyve had the raid/rep system in place in NCKorea for quite sometime.


It was introduce to help clans that arent neccessarily the powerhouse on the server because otherwise the gap between the the top and the up and comers grows then it creates boredom or you too dense to realize that?




Really? Are you sure that just isnt your opinion, or even a general opinion of the system? Just like hero system was implemented to show the best of each class, or maybe which clan can dominate the areas of those classes. Its quite rare that youll see an opinionated statement like that, I doubt you can find a reliable reference. Therefore, you remain nub, and no, Im not too dense to understand what you wanted the system to be for. Sorry that you fail at L2.

Technically speaking, NCsoft doesnt screw up^^. Either you or she interpretted it incorrectly. Theyve had the raid/rep system in place in NCKorea for quite sometime.



Here is no way for the players to mis-interpretted what Alrya said - she stated it was the total points per all the toons in the clan, including acedemy members.

How does it work in NCK??????
I highly doubt that there are even 100 active clans on some servers. Even one player who raids could earn some points, but I'm willing to bet that on Lionna at least, there are not 100 clans w/ a raiding player to earn points. Numbers 75 - 100 (give or take) would probably be full of clans with 0 raid points. How would they handle that then?

Just as a side note, I did 4 - count them - FOUR raid bosses last month and I wound up ranked like 5x or something... by only doing 4 bosses. Makes me wonder how many people are actually doing bosses.


Technically speaking, NCsoft doesnt screw up^^. Either you or she interpretted it incorrectly. Theyve had the raid/rep system in place in NCKorea for quite sometime.



Here is no way for the players to mis-interpretted what Alrya said - she stated it was the total points per all the toons in the clan, including acedemy members.

How does it work in NCK??????



Its already been corrected by players. :p You get points for your rank. Those points go to your clan. If youre not in a clan, I guess the points dont go anywhere!(Like the 1k from obtaining hero, or the reps from academy quest, ECT.)

I highly doubt that there are even 100 active clans on some servers. Even one player who raids could earn some points, but I'm willing to bet that on Lionna at least, there are not 100 clans w/ a raiding player to earn points. Numbers 75 - 100 (give or take) would probably be full of clans with 0 raid points. How would they handle that then?

Just as a side note, I did 4 - count them - FOUR raid bosses last month and I wound up ranked like 5x or something... by only doing 4 bosses. Makes me wonder how many people are actually doing bosses.


On your server, not many I suppose. Granted, I think on most servers you can expect certain players to be very ambitious in hunting raid mobs from each clan. These players will have a much higher concentratio ratio compared to lower amounts, who only get them here and there. Also, you will get more raid points, if you solo it, than say if you kill it with 9 people. That is to say, the raid points are broken up, much like XP/SP. Also, different bosses are worth more raid points than others. Hope the info helps, unlike anything SlyCutter has posted this week! :)

I highly doubt that there are even 100 active clans on some servers. Even one player who raids could earn some points, but I'm willing to bet that on Lionna at least, there are not 100 clans w/ a raiding player to earn points. Numbers 75 - 100 (give or take) would probably be full of clans with 0 raid points. How would they handle that then?

Just as a side note, I did 4 - count them - FOUR raid bosses last month and I wound up ranked like 5x or something... by only doing 4 bosses. Makes me wonder how many people are actually doing bosses.



This month so far on lionna 2k raidpoints puts you in the top 80 and that's it.

wouldnt be her screwup but NCSoft's. Like the top clan on the server already gets 25,000 points a month for have almost all the heros lets give them another 10,000 points for having those heros to do all the raids. It was introduce to help clans that arent neccessarily the powerhouse on the server because otherwise the gap between the the top and the up and comers grows then it creates boredom or you too dense to realize that?



If you don't like it you always have the choice to move to another game. So stop with your whining.

Theyve had the raid/rep system in place in NCKorea for quite sometime.



thats funny up until NCNA said something I never even heard of this patch.....so you must speek/read/ understand korean then?

unless it was posted on blah and no one cared.
Apparently NCNA didnt care. The raid points listing has been there for awhile. I was curious about what it was for when I went from 76-79 in 1 month soloing raid mobs. Its only just since these patches theyve attributed a reason for it.

Technically speaking, NCsoft doesnt screw up^^. Either you or she interpretted it incorrectly. Theyve had the raid/rep system in place in NCKorea for quite sometime.


It was introduce to help clans that arent neccessarily the powerhouse on the server because otherwise the gap between the the top and the up and comers grows then it creates boredom or you too dense to realize that?




Really? Are you sure that just isnt your opinion, or even a general opinion of the system? Just like hero system was implemented to show the best of each class, or maybe which clan can dominate the areas of those classes. Its quite rare that youll see an opinionated statement like that, I doubt you can find a reliable reference. Therefore, you remain nub, and no, Im not too dense to understand what you wanted the system to be for. Sorry that you fail at L2.



Your a real piece of work.

How hard is it to interpret? The top 100 Raid-Point-earning clans per server will receive bonus Clan Reputation Points each month. These bonus reputation points will be added during the first maintenance of each month.

Not hard at all and pretty strait forward. Im sure someone sat around in the office one day and decided "Lets misinform everyone and make them think they will receive something thier not."

It's quite easy to set in front of a comp screan and call someone a nub because you disagree with them. But quite another to actually figure out what is going on.

I was wondering though have you been playing this game as long as we have or did you just decide in 2007 to come to the official forums?


Technically speaking, NCsoft doesnt screw up^^. Either you or she interpretted it incorrectly. Theyve had the raid/rep system in place in NCKorea for quite sometime.


It was introduce to help clans that arent neccessarily the powerhouse on the server because otherwise the gap between the the top and the up and comers grows then it creates boredom or you too dense to realize that?




Really? Are you sure that just isnt your opinion, or even a general opinion of the system? Just like hero system was implemented to show the best of each class, or maybe which clan can dominate the areas of those classes. Its quite rare that youll see an opinionated statement like that, I doubt you can find a reliable reference. Therefore, you remain nub, and no, Im not too dense to understand what you wanted the system to be for. Sorry that you fail at L2.



Your a real piece of work.

How hard is it to interpret? The top 100 Raid-Point-earning clans per server will receive bonus Clan Reputation Points each month. These bonus reputation points will be added during the first maintenance of each month.

Not hard at all and pretty strait forward. Im sure someone sat around in the office one day and decided "Lets misinform everyone and make them think they will receive something thier not."

It's quite easy to set in front of a comp screan and call someone a nub because you disagree with them. But quite another to actually figure out what is going on.

I was wondering though have you been playing this game as long as we have or did you just decide in 2007 to come to the official forums?



Since beta^^ And I know quite a bit about L2, and its history, and have an accomplished record to prove such things! But nevermind that, lets stick to debates on my post. If you read any of my other posts in this thread, you may see Im not just spitting out what I think, but what Ive seen first hand. I had rank 1, 2 and even 3! I made quite a lot of rep points~ It didnt rank my clan #1, and distrubite 2500. Instead, it gave 2500 to the first slot, X to the 2nd, 3rd.. ect.

So yes, I didnt just sign up on the forums and shoot my mouth off, like the main poster, whos quite a piece of work indeed~ Why dont you scroll through some of his recent posts. Furthermore, you should realize how many things from Korea have come mis-translated/interpretted/unmentioned ect. Alyra had to fetch the details to make that post, she wasnt completely sure of it herself at first. If youd like to know how the system actually works, and not how its supposed to work, or how someone says it work, feel free to log into game, and try it out yourself. Which again, begs the question why the [censored] would you say

It's quite easy to set in front of a comp screan and call someone a nub because you disagree with them. But quite another to actually figure out what is going on.


Apology accepted in advance.
I posted offical NCSoft posts you posted what you think is how they are working, you ever think it may be BUGGED! oh no never that.

And if its the top 100 people, then it should just be removed because its broken to just reward 1 or 2 clans all the reps every month since they are the ones that farm the epic bosses to start with.

you posted what you think is how they are working



False. I posted how it is working. Not how I think its working. Im sorry this system isnt very carebear friendly, it seems it will be hounded by the elites, such as myself, tbh. Not sure why the clans ranking from like 100-10 would ever care about the monthly amounts theyd be receiving. Pretty insignificant, if you think about it. Also consider, 100 clans, filled to max. Can that fit on our servers? I rest my case, youre an idiot, and youre functioning as intended. :)
This whole debate is kinda moot tbh .... clans got alot more than the max possible rep points both in January and February so there's 2 options: a) ncsoft NA loves us and gives us more than we should get or b) it is like I said a few pages back a clan gets points for all its members that are in the top 100 raid point rankings.
It's sad, but it looks as if the official information we got is simply wrong. Most likely the person who translated the info from the Korean devs simply messed up. Well at least now it is easy to check how many points you should have received. Just look at the raid ranking of your clannies and add up the bonus reputation points of those clannies who are within the top 100according to the list. Quite frankly, the bonus reputation also makes a bit more sense this way. A reputation reward of 25 or 50 points for a whole clan is just ridiculously low, but if you have a few clannies in the top 100, it adds up to a halfway decent number.
Recro - if you know how it works, please give proff otherwise, you have not clue and are guessing like the rest of us.

I do believe that there is something messed up with either 1 - what Alrya posted, or 2- it was coded wrong, and after two months, typical NCSoft now considers the bug a new feature in the game and will never admit to it and can not figure out how to fix it.
You guys have a strange way of asking for things you want.



Well the rep points list is from here -> http://boards.lineage2.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=1018491&page=2&vc=1

I still think those player ranks though, not clan ranks ... ie a clan collects raid points for all of its members that are in the top 100



that makes sense, I know for a fact our 1 party that does every raid boss in the game had rankings 1-9. I was ranked 2nd this month.



makes sense when HE says it but not when I say it.

WTH



i have the same prob most of the time taterman,

it dont matter what you say noone listens, and then they are shocked when whatever it was you said(sorry wasnt paying attention, what was it?) happens.
hence why ive given up actually giving useful advice. i find that by spewing utter nonsense i pass the frustration of people being ignored on to someone else.

for some reason people always feel the need to correct me, so i make sure to post LOTS of garbage.

ist the unfortunate way people will get answers to good questions.