It wasnt made clear, for example if i dont have my Noble Crown equip, i will LOSE IT? and other "no drop/no trade" items, that i cannot actually get again?
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To clarify, if you go to transfer a character to another server and your character's name is taken when you create the Level 1 placeholder character, you can choose another name. (You can technically do that even if your name isn't taken and just want to change it on the new server.) Think of it as a free name change with purchase of server transfer. :p
I'll be compiling all of the questions in this thread and the announcement thread, and will get as many answers to you as we can by the end of the day today.
not that i care, i am not transfering, but it states the seal stones specifically that are not withdrawn will be lost, but even if you have seal stones or AA, based on the other rules, those would be deleted on transfer anyways, even if they are in your inventory?
Think of it as a free name change with purchase of server transfer. :p
Like that in any way makes up for the fact that you can have subclasses that you have taken time to equip and you can't take any of that gear with you. The lack of thought that has been put into the restrictions placed on these transfers is amazing. But then, why am I really that surprised?
Think of it as a free name change with purchase of server transfer. :p
Like that in any way makes up for the fact that you can have subclasses that you have taken time to equip and you can't take any of that gear with you. The lack of thought that has been put into the restrictions placed on these transfers is amazing. But then, why am I really that surprised?
Think of it as a free name change with purchase of server transfer. :p
Like that in any way makes up for the fact that you can have subclasses that you have taken time to equip and you can't take any of that gear with you. The lack of thought that has been put into the restrictions placed on these transfers is amazing. But then, why am I really that surprised?
A set number of items besides the equipped items SHOULD be transferable, it would be stupid otherwise :(.
Couldn't agree more.
But then, who cares about the different difficulties of acquisition of certain gear on different servers and the unfair difference all of this makes? e.e
I'll be compiling all of the questions in this thread and the announcement thread, and will get as many answers to you as we can by the end of the day today.
In that case, just in case it has not been clearly stated before:
Why does the transfer system not support a key part of the game, that of subclasses?
A melee toon (or a toon with a particular weapon of armour mastery) that subs a toon that is a nuker (or has different weapon and armour masteries/requirements) is being penalised by the fact that they cannot take the gear that they have got for their sub/main class with them. I find this to be a ridiculous decision when a subclass is a completely different toon in all but name, looks and a shared inventory/warehouse.
Also, your system would appear to prejudice dwarves, particularly BountyHunters who have been left behind in the skills departments because they are supposed to go and farm materials in order to make money. Now you are saying that they have to lose those accumulated materials? Simply because they cannot be equipped?
That's a couple of questions but I have many more. I'll see how NCNA responds to the first one before I waste any more of my time only to be ignored.
adena limit set to 2billion, all inventory and all wh with a cap on items only, not mats and quest items thats should be it. Key mats and materials in general cost money too u know especially in large quantities.
Guys .... I m with ya, but as has been posted countless times before that is exactly how server transfer transfers work in Korea. And since NcsoftNA hasnt EVER done anything different to korea I m thinking all the venting is in vain :S
adena limit set to 2billion, all inventory and all wh with a cap on items only, not mats and quest items thats should be it. Key mats and materials in general cost money too u know especially in large quantities.
I have accumulated a lot of mats on my 3 BHs. Why should I not be allowed to take them? I paid for the time it took to spoil them. Maybe I can get a refund of paid time that I have more or less wasted due to this decision.
And half the reason behind these restrictions is no doubt to stop the bots and farmers transferring assets from one server to another. Newsflash, if NCNA did more to stop the bots in the first place then this wouldn't be an issue.
they do it to stop farmers? then the people will just liquidate everything on one server, and transfer the money to another server through ebay sites to their new character.. its ******ed, NCNA pls open your mind and think more clear
Technically speaking a noblesse tiara is a non tradeable quest item, so you *should* keep it. I know in Korea you get to keep it
From the way Ornery answered some of the questions I would say you will loose it if not equiped. Basicaly if it's in your normal inventory/warehouse and not (quest items inventory) it will get deleted.
Why don't all you haters just sell every item you have, buy the most expensive thing you can with it, such as an epic jewel or something, then equip that, move to new server, sell it, buy your gears, and everything is fine. what is the huge deal??? you got server transfers, be happy with that, they could have EASILY, EASILY, and i will say it once more EASILY, NOT given server transfers... ever. Make the best of the system, or don't use it at all. Peace
Why don't all you haters just sell every item you have, buy the most expensive thing you can with it, such as an epic jewel or something, then equip that, move to new server, sell it, buy your gears, and everything is fine. what is the huge deal??? you got server transfers, be happy with that, they could have EASILY, EASILY, and i will say it once more EASILY, NOT given server transfers... ever. Make the best of the system, or don't use it at all. Peace
Probably because some have full set of boss jewels already...
If the item is on your "Item" tab - it will get deleted.
If the item is on your "Quest" tab - it will be transfered.
Or did I miss something?
You got it!!!
Thanks.... then... OH OH +1 FOR ME ON A SUGGESTION FOR GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! to all of NCNA that can post on these boards - please, when you make posts, make it as clear as I did (assuming that I was correct in my statement).
Why don't all you haters just sell every item you have, buy the most expensive thing you can with it, such as an epic jewel or something, then equip that, move to new server, sell it, buy your gears, and everything is fine. what is the huge deal??? you got server transfers, be happy with that, they could have EASILY, EASILY, and i will say it once more EASILY, NOT given server transfers... ever. Make the best of the system, or don't use it at all. Peace
+1 ppl are so ungreatful i have no problem at all with the terms of transfer. If ppl have a porblem with them dont transfer... problem solved
+1 ppl are so ungreatful i have no problem at all with the terms of transfer. If ppl have a porblem with them dont transfer... problem solved
You may enjoy playing on a dead server. Personally I do not. And I don't see NCNA making ANY efforts to attract people to this game so I can only see dead servers becoming even worse.
In my opinion NCNA have an obligation to maintain a healthy playerbase for a game that is geared towards playing with other people. If they fail in that regard then they have another obligation to provide server transfers that satisfy the needs of their customers and ultimately, server merges.
+1 ppl are so ungreatful i have no problem at all with the terms of transfer. If ppl have a porblem with them dont transfer... problem solved
You may enjoy playing on a dead server. Personally I do not. And I don't see NCNA making ANY efforts to attract people to this game so I can only see dead servers becoming even worse.
In my opinion NCNA have an obligation to maintain a healthy playerbase for a game that is geared towards playing with other people. If they fail in that regard then they have another obligation to provide server transfers that satisfy the needs of their customers and ultimately, server merges.
fyi, on Lionna, i ve seen at least 20 "welcome back" hero shouts and many others that werent announced on hero channel, at the first hours that OrneryNC announced it.
fyi, on Lionna, i ve seen at least 20 "welcome back" hero shouts and many others that werent announced on hero channel, at the first hours that OrneryNC announced it.
So you are saying that people have come back to Lionna due to the announcement of server transfers? Does that not suggest that those people will be gone from Lionna to a more populated server as soon as transfers are live? After all, an announcement of server transfers would not make me play the game again (on Sieghardt) unless I was intending to leave that server.
NCNA are responsible for ALL the servers, not just the popular ones, hence my mention of server merges. To me, these have to happen. Maybe a period of review should be allowed to see if the server transfers bolster the population of the less populated servers. After that server merges should be seriously considered but they have to have vastly different restrictions than voluntary server transfers or they will only serve to drive players away. If NCNA do not opt for server merges then they need to apply restrictions as to which servers can accept new toons in order to achieve a more even spread of the playerbase and maintain interest.
If server transfers are in the works they should let us know that in advance as that might influence people on if they will transfer or not, it would sux if you decide to transfer away from your dead server (liquidating your assets to do so) only to have it merge 3 months later with 2 other death servers making it a fun server once again..
Does that not suggest that those people will be gone from Lionna to a more populated server as soon as transfers are live?
You got it...
Anyways a server merge is much more work than just server
transfers...After 4 years they found enough manpower to
implement these services and now you expect server merges ?
Isn't it actually ironical that the 2 euro-servers have as much ppl as all the other NA servers togather ?
Instead of Franz they should have changed 2-3 servers into
euro-timezone and that whole dilemma/drama wouldn't exist.
Why don't all you haters just sell every item you have, buy the most expensive thing you can with it, such as an epic jewel or something, then equip that, move to new server, sell it, buy your gears, and everything is fine. what is the huge deal??? you got server transfers, be happy with that, they could have EASILY, EASILY, and i will say it once more EASILY, NOT given server transfers... ever. Make the best of the system, or don't use it at all. Peace
I wish the markets worked that way, but they don't. In some cases the prices can be vastly different from server to server.
For example just this week an Ant Queen Ring sold for the following amounts on these servers:
Bartz 1.2 Billion
Devianne 1 Billion
Lionna 650 Million
Your plan works if you happen to be transferring from Lionna to one of the other servers and taking that AQ with you. But it doesn't work if you're on Bartz or Devianne and transferring to Lionna.
Sure, you could sell the AQ before leaving Bartz/Devianne, but I wouldn't advise it. My guess is that as we get nearer to the first server transfer date, the higher the market prices will go.
And within a week after the first transfer I'm betting that the prices for all goods will spike on the busiest servers until supply outstrips demand. Since you can't transfer whole inventories, that could take months.
Why don't all you haters just sell every item you have, buy the most expensive thing you can with it, such as an epic jewel or something, then equip that, move to new server, sell it, buy your gears, and everything is fine. what is the huge deal??? you got server transfers, be happy with that, they could have EASILY, EASILY, and i will say it once more EASILY, NOT given server transfers... ever. Make the best of the system, or don't use it at all. Peace
I wish the markets worked that way, but they don't. In some cases the prices can be vastly different from server to server.
For example just this week an Ant Queen Ring sold for the following amounts on these servers:
Bartz 1.2 Billion
Devianne 1 Billion
Lionna 650 Million
Your plan works if you happen to be transferring from Lionna to one of the other servers and taking that AQ with you. But it doesn't work if you're on Bartz or Devianne and transferring to Lionna.
Sure, you could sell the AQ before leaving Bartz/Devianne, but I wouldn't advise it. My guess is that as we get nearer to the first server transfer date, the higher the market prices will go.
And within a week after the first transfer I'm betting that the prices for all goods will spike on the busiest servers until supply outstrips demand. Since you can't transfer whole inventories, that could take months.
Create level 1 on Lionna and on Bartz
Transfer level 1 to bartz, use adena to purchase zaken, ant queen, baium, orfen
transfer naother level 1 back to bartz. u just made 2-3bill adena...
Aside from the fact that most people selling these items arent that naive. Give it a little time to catch on, for the mentally impaired. The economy is no longer server wide. Its become Global. Its not too hard to understand, or compensate for.
Create level 1 on Lionna and on Bartz
Transfer level 1 to bartz, use adena to purchase zaken, ant queen, baium, orfen
transfer naother level 1 back to bartz. u just made 2-3bill adena...
I can see alot of people doing this
Except that you cannot transfer level 1, must be 40+ with class changed :p
Create level 1 on Lionna and on Bartz
Transfer level 1 to bartz, use adena to purchase zaken, ant queen, baium, orfen
transfer naother level 1 back to bartz. u just made 2-3bill adena...
I can see alot of people doing this
Except that you cannot transfer level 1, must be 40+ with class changed :p
pfffss - roll a Kameal - 1-40 in 2 days - even with stuff you picked up.
And like this idea has not been figured out by 90% of the players...
Why don't all you haters just sell every item you have, buy the most expensive thing you can with it, such as an epic jewel or something, then equip that, move to new server, sell it, buy your gears, and everything is fine. what is the huge deal??? you got server transfers, be happy with that, they could have EASILY, EASILY, and i will say it once more EASILY, NOT given server transfers... ever. Make the best of the system, or don't use it at all. Peace
I wish the markets worked that way, but they don't. In some cases the prices can be vastly different from server to server.
For example just this week an Ant Queen Ring sold for the following amounts on these servers:
Bartz 1.2 Billion
Devianne 1 Billion
Lionna 650 Million
Your plan works if you happen to be transferring from Lionna to one of the other servers and taking that AQ with you. But it doesn't work if you're on Bartz or Devianne and transferring to Lionna.
Sure, you could sell the AQ before leaving Bartz/Devianne, but I wouldn't advise it. My guess is that as we get nearer to the first server transfer date, the higher the market prices will go.
And within a week after the first transfer I'm betting that the prices for all goods will spike on the busiest servers until supply outstrips demand. Since you can't transfer whole inventories, that could take months.
Create level 1 on Lionna and on Bartz
Transfer level 1 to bartz, use adena to purchase zaken, ant queen, baium, orfen
transfer naother level 1 back to bartz. u just made 2-3bill adena...
I can see alot of people doing this
This is already being done. In fact, many started re-rolling on different servers and stockpiling the cheaper goods back when they first announced that server transfers were coming.
I spend time in the markets on every server, and I can assure you that there aren't nearly as many epics up for sale as there were back in Interlude.
The same applies to the still rare Top A weapons. At one time you could find several (3 or more) Shyeed Bows on Bartz selling for 300M. Not any more. The last time I saw a Shyeed on Bartz, it was selling for 1B. On Lionna (again with Lionna) I saw a Shyeed going for around 460M+ this week. I just logged from Lionna, and that bow is gone. My guess is that it will turn up on one of the other servers, along with that 650M AQ that was also sold.
All in all, it's going to be an interesting late February - early March in all of the markets.
Indeed. But it requires some resources put into leveling then, either time and some effort, or financial.
No, it simply requires 24 hours or so on a bot program. I can't believe that they didn't see that they just gave people that bot their toons another reason to bot some more mules.