so NC [Censored] the euro players and force them to stay on an NA server... great job!!!!
but anyways NC get my money for transfer, cause if my clan can't transfer to euro we transfer at least to an eastcoat server for having better ping...
i don't know anything about that 3 east coast servers, so i would be very glad if some guys from that servers can tell me something about "their" servers, so my clan can decide on that facts where to transfer
thx again NC... 50% of kain would leave to euro, thats about 1000 ppl (??) (= 2000 chars) * 50$ transfer cost = 100.000 $ u don't want to have...i can't understand that, but hey it's YOUR business not mine
Not to mention that the option to reroll to an Euro server has been available for years. If someone was unwilling to reroll and now is unwilling to pay a trivial amount for a transfer then they have no valid complaint. They just come across as a whiner.
You guys don't seem to understand that it's not a cool option to reroll to a lvl1 toon and leave all your gear and clan and that behind just to play on a EU server. Also the east coast servers already are majority of EU players.
Why don't you go re-roll to another US server If your server becomes EU time.. I mean, you are suggesting us to do the same? Shouldnt be so hard then.
And if a Us server was to be changed to EU times IT MIGHT START LIVING. omg.. that would suck right? But then again you can just transfer to a light US server and your problem is solved.
Edit: And franz wont be open for transfers for a long time either. As you see Teon is already closed.
Ahh well if your server gets changed to euro time you can still reroll to an other US time server and save the transfer fee.
Oh you dont want that ? Why ? You say euro players can do that or just could have done already in the past.
Beside that you really think all euro players on the other us time servers can fit on Franz ?
Think again.
i think they just cant imagine that legit players can't reroll, just bots dont care...reroll...and leave 2 or 3 years hard work behind
and transfering to franz is bad solution, cause when that 500 free slots taken half of your clan is on franz and half still at old server, or imagine if your buffer is at franz and your main still on old server
You make good points Vanaja, thanks. So rather than change an existing server to Euro, why not just start a new Euro server and allow transfers to it?
Yes, that would be a trick too. But sadly that would leave the already light US servers even lighter. Which in the end is not fun for all the americans left there. That's why I rather see a time change.
well i would also agree with a NEW euro server, but i'm not a dreamer, so could some1 please tell me some facts about hindemith, gustin and devianne please?? thx!!!!
I cannot really compare since i've only been on gustin of the east coast servers. But i like Gustin. Its my home since september and i'm having alot of fun. And as spire said, our forums rock :)
If u arent the blah type that is ^_^
well if 4 big ally fighst 2vs2 thats 2 sides isnt it?^^
ok i try it another way, answer to that:
1.) how many sides?
2.) need carebear ppl pay for enter baium?
3.) pricecheck a) drac bow clean b) AQ ring
4.) top A-grade (Shyeeds bow, ipos sword...) available on market?
5.) i kill the 24/7 botgroup in L-room (imp tomb) what happens?
a) 1-3 botguards coming and try to kill u
b) more then 3 botguards come
c) i dont understand the question, no1 bots in L-room!!!
Gustin:
1: 2 that if I've understood it right.
2: What I know there is often pvp for baium between the sides. Don't know if PvE clans do it aswell.
3: Drac bow clean is like 300-350 mil. Aq i dono.
4: Last time i saw a shyed for sale was last week. Dono if it is regular thing.
5: I don't know. i'm loooobie.
EDIT: But compared to franz, bots in general is "huh what's that?"
1) randomly sides but mainly its X ally vs all server or 2 allies vs server
2)no usually one ally farms baium and let non enemy ppl enter or do baium for quest before kill
3)280-350 b)600-780
4)maybe not shyeds but other yes
5)not sure never did it lmao b)rather catas behavior and not happens so often now
More Q me happy to answer yo
zakens is around 600
aq u know already
baium is unreachable for market sellers cause not farm for sale rarely for 2 bill
frintezza around 2 bill
orfen core are those worth of buying ?
U can see draco set and imperial lil overpriced clean set is around 1.3 bil.
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anything from hindemith or devianne?? guys make advertise for your servers, if not my clan transfers to gustin!!!!
Listen, Hindemith is a great server. There is a lot of drama for those who want it and at the moment, it's possible for people to avoid it.
There are always changing sides. It also has (if that recently released website listing populations can be believed) a fairly decent population.
I've never heard of anyone having to pay for Baium so that is news to me. Doesn't mean it can't happen I suppose.
Look, all you have to do is to go to the Hindemith forums and scroll back a bit to get an idea as to what the server is about. It has passionate players, helpful players, etc.
I'm sure the influx of players will also tip things.
OK. I propose we change Gustin to Teon hours, move 1/3 of Teon to Gustin.
Have more fun.
Also, Venaja, in the interests of your changing servers, please transfer 500 million adena to Choc.
Thank You.
--The Management
I have no intention to change servers. I've checked out franz. it's pure BS. I want to stay on Gustin now that I have a new big family and all that. That's why i work so hard for the possible server time chenge to happen here.
Edit: The most money i've ever had so far is 55m.. so dream on :p
1.) 3 sides. The biggest one is "carebears". The second biggest one now is "all heroes with banned clan leader" (or maybe they aren't "all heroes" anymore - I haven't yet logged in February). The third one is funny too. I'm from the first one, but partyprotect in both 2nd and 3rd - if it tells you anything about the server.
2.) No, they don't.
3.) a) 200M, b) 700M(?)
4.) Yes.
5.) No bots in L-room. Not a really good exp either.
I'll add a bit to what Sovrath already said. The server has a big enough population that Giran is busy. There are 2 sides that have wars going and you can join either side. Or simply go your own way and not be bothered. The smaller clans have the room and opportunity to grow. There are many open spaces to exp. And prices are not extremely high. Someone mentioned drac sets for 1.3 billion but on Hinde you can get that for 450 mil (for now so hurry up).
1.) how many sides?
2.) need carebear ppl pay for enter baium?
3.) pricecheck a) drac bow clean b) AQ ring
4.) top A-grade (Shyeeds bow, ipos sword...) available on market?
5.) i kill the 24/7 botgroup in L-room (imp tomb) what happens?
a) 1-3 botguards coming and try to kill u
b) more then 3 botguards come
c) i dont understand the question, no1 bots in L-room!!!
Gustin : 1) two sides
2)no
3)300 mil / 720 . zaken is 600 . frint is 1.8bil.baium not for sale havent seen in a long time
4)You can find a very few of them. Higher prices than S
5)If the L room is the one deep near 4 seps noble port then no there are no bots there. My experience in IT is limited though I could be wrong :P . But yes most groups have protectors.
1) 2 main side but smaller clan have their own wars
2) no one that I know of has to pay for baium
3) a) 190 mil B) 650-700 mil, zaken 500-550 mil
4) rare but more and more pieces showing up everyday
5) L room is usually occupied by real players
6) beast farm on hinde is NOT controlled by farmers unlike on gustin so real players can farm there
as a prelude player on devianne i would hope you havent tossed out the possiblility of coming to our server. the main reason people dont post here is because many of us post on another forum. devianne has a huge pvp based politics. wars are always up with everyone not this lets fight for a week then xp for 2
on the other certain blah forum, devianne section look at the pvp screenshots sticky, over 1000 pages and 25000 posts of people talking and flaming for pvp. if its pvp you want then devianne is a good choice :P
1.) how many sides?
2.) need carebear ppl pay for enter baium?
3.) pricecheck a) drac bow clean b) AQ ring
4.) top A-grade (Shyeeds bow, ipos sword...) available on market?
5.) i kill the 24/7 botgroup in L-room (imp tomb) what happens?
1 )the sides currently are split into 2 sides with many smaller clans or allies tossed into the mix
2 ) baium well thats always interesting always a good fight to see who gets it
3 ) drac bow is like 200-230 i think and AQ around 1 b
4 ) tehres a dwarf sellin all the recs
5 ) there is no bot grp in IT, anyone kills anything thats not in there ally there lol
4 pages and no1 told a word about devianne, so our decision is between gustin and hindemith...
I am suprise too, but then again not to many devianne talk on this site. I like advertise my server, not sure how it compare to other server, but expect all lot of clan war, all major clan declare war on every other clan big or small only speaking from my experience and not as a whole server.
DEVIANNE - (I pick this for low ping and nice name)
1) 2 main side (zerk vs uber gear) many large carebear allaince xping/raiding
2) not sure, mostly every one is pk when large ally do baium
3) a) 230 mil B) 1,000 Mil+, zaken 760mil, Baium 2Bil+
4) have all new A grade weapon on sale with rec and part
5) L room is usually occupied by real players,
1.) how many sides?
2.) need carebear ppl pay for enter baium?
3.) pricecheck a) drac bow clean b) AQ ring
4.) top A-grade (Shyeeds bow, ipos sword...) available on market?
5.) i kill the 24/7 botgroup in L-room (imp tomb) what happens?
a) 1-3 botguards coming and try to kill u
b) more then 3 botguards come
c) i dont understand the question, no1 bots in L-room!!!
Devianne
1 - 3 Sides and multiple other clans swiming around switching sides regulary or merging into other clans.
2. If your not friendly with the people doing baium u are not getting in IE see slycutter lol
3. Drac bow 230 - 245 mil depending on the week. Ant 850 mil - 1 bil Zaken 750 Baium unbuyable
4. Some top agrade weapons are already floating around overechanted and many parts and recs to pick up.
5. IT is mostly real players.
PS Devianne is tied for the 3rd highest pop server with Bartz behind Teon and Franz
anything from hindemith or devianne?? guys make advertise for your servers, if not my clan transfers to gustin!!!!
Listen, Hindemith is a great server. There is a lot of drama for those who want it and at the moment, it's possible for people to avoid it.
There are always changing sides. It also has (if that recently released website listing populations can be believed) a fairly decent population.
I've never heard of anyone having to pay for Baium so that is news to me. Doesn't mean it can't happen I suppose.
Look, all you have to do is to go to the Hindemith forums and scroll back a bit to get an idea as to what the server is about. It has passionate players, helpful players, etc.
I'm sure the influx of players will also tip things.
constant power stuggles ending with the more powerful alliance(s) being overthrown eventually and the cycle repeats
baium is farmed by the 2 major warring sides
there is no bots in l room its used by real players
not sure on drac bow prices but affordable
sgrade armor sets are far cheaper than the prices posted from other servers
id say about 1/2 the population is euro or greek the other half is NA
People of Devianne are tied on PvP a lot. If you join a clan of lvl6 and above, expect wars. From everyone. Some 1 way others 2 way, but wars it is. Mortal enemies form odd new alliances, good friends break old alliances, there is always suspence and political manouvering.
The server is comprised mainly from Euros (maybe 70-30 to NA) and the majority of them are Greeks. Bots tend to be lesser these days (maybe a random thing, don't know).