It looks like people are deliberately trying to take the names of players they think might transfer to their servers.
Is there a way we can prevent this with some kind of anti-cybersquatting policy? It kind of sucks that there is someone with a level 1 toon on the server I want to transfer to, so I can't get my preferred name. And it looks like people are intentionally creating all these level 1 toons just to be annoying.
My understanding is you can create any new name on the new server regardless of what your name is on the old server. I think your toon will get renamed to the level 1 toon you have on the new server so you get a name change as well - and for free. But that's my interpretation of Alyra's post so you might want to double check.
no, i do believe ornery said youre stuck with the name of your transferring toon, gimme 2 mins ill find you the quote...
here:
· You must create a Level 1 character with the desired name on the desired destination server. Question: is this a possible namechange service aswell as server transfer?
When a character is transferred they retain the name of the character they created on the destination server.
no, i do believe ornery said youre stuck with the name of your transferring toon, gimme 2 mins ill find you the quote...
here:
· You must create a Level 1 character with the desired name on the desired destination server. Question: is this a possible namechange service aswell as server transfer?
When a character is transferred they retain the name of the character they created on the destination server.
That means u choose a name that u want, not that u need the same name as the toon ure transfering.
u get a free name change when u do it ^^
i just did so. ^^
How do you decide if someone is creating a toon "just to be annoying" or because they genuinely want a toon of that name, possibly to play at a later date or for a later transfer?
I don't think you can make a policy that requires mind-reading.
All I know is that the name I wanted is being cybersquatted. And a lot of other players are finding that their desired names are being cybersquatted also. It's not like we're trying to select common names like Merlin or Legolas, these are often unusual names (e.g. "KoreaPL") that are intentionally being camped.
If you're desired name is taken you have two choices, pick a new name or don't transfer. I cannot see any way that they can make a policy against what is happening.
When server transfers were annouced (way back when) I went and created a toon on each server that I was interested in transferring to. As luck would have it, that's exactly what we needed to do. Many people have created toons with the same name on all servers, just to maintain their uniqueness (if that's even a word).
Most people with "known" nicks have them reserved on all servers ...
On topic, tough luck I guess, It's really unlikelly NcSoft will intervene over nicknames
I cannot see any way that they can make a policy against what is happening.
Why do you say that? With web pages, for example, you can't just camp someone else's name. If you take "www.colgate-palmolive.com" just to cybersquat it, you're going to lose it to the real colgate-palmolive.
Requiring people to needlessly populate NCsoft's database seems silly. After all, I don't care if someone uses my name on a server I'm NOT playing on.
I cannot see any way that they can make a policy against what is happening.
Why do you say that? With web pages, for example, you can't just camp someone else's name. If you take "www.colgate-palmolive.com" just to cybersquat it, you're going to lose it to the real colgate-palmolive.
Requiring people to needlessly populate NCsoft's database seems silly. After all, I don't care if someone uses my name on a server I'm NOT playing on.
So you are saying that as long as it effects you it should be changed, but if it does not effect you it is ok...
<sigh> Or you can do what I did. I have two names and I resever them on almost all servers. Unfortunately.. I reserved on the wrong account. Sooooo... the name is not available to me on the transfer of my main warsmith. Ticks me off. I wasn't thinking :(
Yes. Way back, first time server transfer service was mentioned --pay attention: it was *mentioned*, not even *announced*-- I rushed to Teon to create a lvl 1 toon for my main. Guess what? The name had already been taken! ><
Like I said I'm not moving so it doesn't matter to me but I did find it curious it was taken on a number of servers already. Could just be a fluke, I mean there are so many names one can use. The bartz one I don't know though.
Unfortunately, we can't require someone to "give back" a name that someone deems as theirs first. Names in an online game are not protected by copyright or any such intellectual property laws. We realize it is entirely possible that some players are doing this out of spite or malice (or simply being a copycat), but we have absolutely no way or proving that.
As some players have suggested, the best course of action would be to reserve your desired name ahead of time if you think you may want to play on another server one day. Otherwise, server transfers do not require you to create a level 1 placeholder character with the same name as the character you'll be moving.
The policy could easily be replaced with use it or lose it. Which leads us to *cough* another paid service - the global name reserve list. After your toon hits 2nd job change you can go and reserve that name across all current and future servers so no one else but you can use it. Of course existing names on other servers will stay. Maybe something for Aion instead.
What are all the various Gandalfs, Legolases (Legoli?), Gimli, Drizzts, Tanises (Tanii?), Frodos, Bilbos, Narutos, Harry Potters and Elrics of the world going to do, then?
If their names are globally reserved, even on servers they may never play on, the unimaginative will have nothing by which to name their characters.
Spell their names backwards.
So all the Legolas can make Salogel, Frodo will be Odorf, and hrm add numbers, xxx, etc. People are creative and will find a new name sooner or later. Also they should delete all the toons that have been perma banned for more than a year.
I made all my alts on all servers back in beta In case I wanted to move and every new server that came up I got the names I wanted right off the bat even Ashley on Franz :)
So I'm set if for some reason I ever have to move I will have the names I wanted on any server :D
I also made at least 1 lvl 6 so I have all the cronos also hee hee
Spell their names backwards.
So all the Legolas can make Salogel, Frodo will be Odorf, and hrm add numbers, xxx, etc. People are creative and will find a new name sooner or later. Also they should delete all the toons that have been perma banned for more than a year.
They should delete the ton of names made back in beta that never went to retail. I mean come on were talking names of people over 3 years old that never got the real game. after 4 years of them never going 2 retail I think it's safe to say they not coming back ;)
p.s. After you delete the Human Mage Ashley (she was in beta but never went to retail) let me know so I can take it :p
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There will be false Gods.
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Honestly, let's not over-obviate here. We can't guard against everything. Cybersquatters are just PVP by other means, and should be the least of our worries.
Besides, I don't want any more resources given to account services when our Libraries are still grossly outdated. It's time they focused on improving the areas that impact all players.
What are all the various Gandalfs, Legolases (Legoli?), Gimli, Drizzts, Tanises (Tanii?), Frodos, Bilbos, Narutos, Harry Potters and Elrics of the world going to do, then?
They should all be banned immediately. No exceptions.
What are all the various Gandalfs, Legolases (Legoli?), Gimli, Drizzts, Tanises (Tanii?), Frodos, Bilbos, Narutos, Harry Potters and Elrics of the world going to do, then?
They should all be banned immediately. No exceptions.
No, I am not kidding.
I agree - or do what I do - just PK them for having the name.
Unfortunately, we can't require someone to "give back" a name that someone deems as theirs first. Names in an online game are not protected by copyright or any such intellectual property laws. We realize it is entirely possible that some players are doing this out of spite or malice (or simply being a copycat), but we have absolutely no way or proving that.
I know, Alyra. No complain from me on the names, just pointing a fact. If NC had ever implemented a service for names' exclusive rights, I would had paid for that since day one.
All I know is that the name I wanted is being cybersquatted. And a lot of other players are finding that their desired names are being cybersquatted also. It's not like we're trying to select common names like Merlin or Legolas, these are often unusual names (e.g. "KoreaPL") that are intentionally being camped.
What's wrong with Legolas anyway? Plus if a whole clan is transfering, wouldn't it be so much easier to have: Legolas1, 2, 3, etc? :p
I cannot see any way that they can make a policy against what is happening.
Why do you say that? With web pages, for example, you can't just camp someone else's name. If you take "www.colgate-palmolive.com" just to cybersquat it, you're going to lose it to the real colgate-palmolive.
Requiring people to needlessly populate NCsoft's database seems silly. After all, I don't care if someone uses my name on a server I'm NOT playing on.
You are comparing apples to oranges. The names you mentioned are trade marked and connot be used by anyone else unless they pay for the right to use them. As for any other word or combination of words that are not trade marked are first come first served on the internet. The are a couple of guys who did just that when the web was stating out. Of course they are billionairs now.
Nothing in the game is trade marked to you as an account holder. Names are fair game and anyone can use any name they want (that doesn't break the eula, which includes not using trade marked names) on any server. First come first served. No I don't, haven't and never will squat on names of people. But I would bet there are plenty of people in this game that are only here for the money that have squated on names. Nothing anyone can do about it now. If the name you want is taken you have to choose another name or try to get it from whoever has it. The later might be quite difficult.
/Random Server
!WTB - Character name Iam1337, paying 10m adena
"RomeoCarFunk Hi, I you that name you 20m adens I seel you kk
"WishfulCharacter That's BS man!!!
3rd party, or otherwise, I bet names start popping up in unusual places with a "for sale" sign on them.
/Random Server
!WTB - Character name Iam1337, paying 10m adena
"RomeoCarFunk Hi, I you that name you 20m adens I seel you kk
"WishfulCharacter That's BS man!!!
3rd party, or otherwise, I bet names start popping up in unusual places with a "for sale" sign on them.
server transfer gives an extra dimension to the game :)
My question is this.... has it been determined whether or not our names are changed when we transfer servers? The names of ALL my toons has been taken already, I need to know if I can just make a toon on the new server with the new name and the name will automatically be changed, or if I'm gonna have to pay for the name change and then for the server transfer as well... I have 3 accounts and the posibility of moving 6 characters I'm dealing with here.. this has the potential to get very expensive, and not worth the trouble of leaving a dead server.. I understand NC wanting to be compensated for the "effort" it takes to apply this service, but ****, those of us that are on dieing or already DEAD servers shouldn't be penalized for wanting to move to someplace that we can actually see someone besides bots on a daily basis.. Maybe implement a "group transfer rate"?
A reply by a GM to this question, or a link to where a GM has addressed this question would be nice..
My question is this.... has it been determined whether or not our names are changed when we transfer servers? The names of ALL my toons has been taken already, I need to know if I can just make a toon on the new server with the new name and the name will automatically be changed, or if I'm gonna have to pay for the name change and then for the server transfer as well... I have 3 accounts and the posibility of moving 6 characters I'm dealing with here.. this has the potential to get very expensive, and not worth the trouble of leaving a dead server.. I understand NC wanting to be compensated for the "effort" it takes to apply this service, but ****, those of us that are on dieing or already DEAD servers shouldn't be penalized for wanting to move to someplace that we can actually see someone besides bots on a daily basis.. Maybe implement a "group transfer rate"?
A reply by a GM to this question, or a link to where a GM has addressed this question would be nice..
Thanks ^^
Not a GM but you only have to read the rules to know the answer. You create a level 1 toon on the server you wish to transfer to with the desired name.
This is definitely something NCNA has to think about before it begins to merge all the depleted servers.
What are they gonna do then? You get screwed out of your name because someone has an alt? Or deliberately camped your name? How do they determine who the "default" owner of the name is?
Bottom line is, this situation will arise in the future, so they WILL need to address it, might as well start thinking about solutions now.