Can we lose our names if they merge servers?

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What happens if the servers merge to the toons with identical names? Will it be the oldest toon keep its name (that would be fair) or the toons who didn't move that would keep it (it's likely to happen)?
This question may be a bit premature. We may never see server merges in our lifetime. ;)

But rest assured, any solution isn't going to please eveyone. In fact, it will probably please no-one but the fanbois (and we all know who they are don't we :p)
Well, in case of server merges I can't imagine any scenario that would please all parties involved.
Don't know if they're gonna merge anything anytime soon, but with servers like Sieg having only 900 people online I think they're not far thou.
I don't want my name changed =.=

Well, in case of server merges I can't imagine any scenario that would please all parties involved.
Don't know if they're gonna merge anything anytime soon, but with servers like Sieg having only 900 people online I think they're not far thou.



In normal circumstances I would agree with you. But logic is not always applied around here, either by posters or the game makers/support.
oldest wins, here's the system msgs that exist in the code atm

-The server has been integrated, and your Clan name, $s1, has been overlapped with another name. Please enter the Clan name to be changed.

-The server has been integrated, and your character, $s1, has been overlapped with another name. Please enter a new name for your character
So go in to every server, make a lvl 1 toon with your name.

Do it now and dont [censored] later.

If its already taken, then care.
server merges? not gonna happen. ever. if anything, they will, i think, give people free transfers to a server of their choice and once every one transfers off, they will shut down the server.

but just for argument, what they should do in case of name conflicts is rename both characters, and so the first one to log in and change it back get their name. that is more fair than having older win.
why? because there could be an inactive account all the way from open beta with a toon that just happens to have the same name as your's that has never been activated with retail. you think older is fair in that case?
They can wipe the old unplayed account names like Ashley suggested and then make it older wins.

A race I don't like it if you cannot connect this day you can lose your toon name.

And if a clan leader is away during the merge, they lose toon name+clan warehouse, it would be harsh lol, so not a new server either.
My Guess would be it will go something like this.


Due to Low Population on Sieghardt Every Active account will have a free server merge transfer to Lionna or pay a fee for a server transfer to any other server of their choice. This must be done in within the next 30 days. After the 30 Days Sieghardt will be taken down and wiped. All Characters will be deleted on Sieghart after the 30 days.

Rules and Requirements
Please read the Lineage® II Character Server merge Service Rules and Requirements below before you proceed

General Information

A character must be Level 20 or higher and completed their first transfer quest(s) in order to transfer
Only one character may be transferred per week.
Transferred characters may not Transfer back the Server is closing.
Other account services (Character Name Change, Character Gender Change, etc.) cannot be used on Sieghardt during this time while on Sieghardt
You must create a Level 1 character with the desired name on the desired destination server. This character must stay at Level 1 or the server transfer will fail.
The Level 1 character that is reserving your place and name on your desired server, and everything associated with it (items, Adena, etc.) will be deleted once the server transfer process is complete.
You must remove the character who will be transferring from his or her clan/alliances before you request a server merge transfer and until the transfer is complete.
All Hero status will be suspended as of now.
What is Transferrable?

A character’s equipped items, level, skill information, and quest information Inventory and Ware House Inventory and freight will be transferred.
Pets will be transferred with their names reset. You may transfer as many as you want
Symbols and Dwarven/Common Recipe Book information will be transferred.
All your Adena will be transferred

What is Non-Transferrable?
The following items will not be transferred.

Zariche, Akamanah, and Hero Weapons.
Friends list, mail, and Macro information.
Clan information and Clan Ware House Inventory
Olympiad points, Noblesse Gate Passes, Hero status, and SSQ information. (Deposited seal stones must be withdrawn or they will be deleted.)

Cost


Lionna is free

Below are the prices for All other Servers
Euros: €7.50
Pounds: £5.00
US Dollars: $12.50*


*As of April 5, 2006 sales tax will apply to customers who reside in Texas, California, Minnesota, and Arizona.



That would be my Guess ;)
pretty close yeah
We will not see server merges soon, because this is not only character name, clan hall, castle owner problem.
But also marketing politics: if servers are merged - that is the first sign of a dying game. NCSOFT do not want potential players to see such titles: "because of players leaving game... lineage 2 merging servers. There will be 4 servers left out of 9." or something like that
Not like their even doing any marketing for the game anyway...

We will not see server merges soon, because this is not only character name, clan hall, castle owner problem.
But also marketing politics: if servers are merged - that is the first sign of a dying game. NCSOFT do not want potential players to see such titles: "because of players leaving game... lineage 2 merging servers. There will be 4 servers left out of 9." or something like that



Yeah, because apparently WoW is a dying game... its had the most server merges out of any game to date.

Here that folks? 9+ million subs and growing, but its dying because it has server merges!

Get a clue k?
Or there is another possibility iirc during OB someone said names lists are shared on servers pairs...

So for instance if you create a toon on Kain you can't have the same name on Lionna or something like that I don't remember the details.
not true at all I have AshleyHunter on all the servers.


We will not see server merges soon, because this is not only character name, clan hall, castle owner problem.
But also marketing politics: if servers are merged - that is the first sign of a dying game. NCSOFT do not want potential players to see such titles: "because of players leaving game... lineage 2 merging servers. There will be 4 servers left out of 9." or something like that



Yeah, because apparently WoW is a dying game... its had the most server merges out of any game to date.

Here that folks? 9+ million subs and growing, but its dying because it has server merges!

Get a clue k?



I'm not saying it is dying, i'm saying how it sounds!
L2 is old and would die if the others MMOs were good, some are but most are not worth it. Oh and Lineage 1 is still here as well as UO and Everquest 1



We will not see server merges soon, because this is not only character name, clan hall, castle owner problem.
But also marketing politics: if servers are merged - that is the first sign of a dying game. NCSOFT do not want potential players to see such titles: "because of players leaving game... lineage 2 merging servers. There will be 4 servers left out of 9." or something like that



Yeah, because apparently WoW is a dying game... its had the most server merges out of any game to date.

Here that folks? 9+ million subs and growing, but its dying because it has server merges!

Get a clue k?



I'm not saying it is dying, i'm saying how it sounds!



Of course its not how it sounds.

Take a look at Bartz, Teon and Franz. Many of the players there are having the time of their lives. *Thats* something you WANT to market, not sit on because they left a dead server.

Merging servers isnt a sign of a dying game, its a sign of consolidation of servers which have outlived their purpose.

Merging servers isnt a sign of a dying game, its a sign of consolidation of servers which have outlived their purpose.



Say it to NCSOFT :)
How do you decide to merge servers? The server that gets merge into do they get their clan halls reset too? is that fair to the people on an active server?

One way transfers and closing server is how it is done in WoW and most other games. They allow people to transfer off inactive servers. They give full notice and then they close the server anyone left behind is lost because of their own inaction. In CoH/CoV if your account is inactive after 90 days anyone can take your name or supergroup name. Global ID stays the same but toon names can be reclaimed.

In the end Server merges create more problems then solve, because your forcing people to go somewhere they might not want to go. People who value choice don't like to be told what they have to do.
maybe server merges could be a solution for teh low population in some servers but, it will not happen. Imagine, all the clan halls, castles, fortress, everything becoming reseted. It will not happen.


Merging servers isnt a sign of a dying game, its a sign of consolidation of servers which have outlived their purpose.



Say it to NCSOFT :)



They already know, since they've already merged servers in 3 of their user area's?
When you choose a server transfer you have to pretty much liquidate all your items besides whats equipped. Now if your server has 900 people does this rule still apply?
that rule is in place to "protect" the economy of the server you're transfering to, has nothing to do with the economy of the server you're coming from..

that rule is in place to "protect" the economy of the server you're transfering to, has nothing to do with the economy of the server you're coming from..


It mess the economy of server you're coming from
Prices go down, because you have to sell a loto of stuf in a short time.
Also. if a lot of people come to a new server with no shots/qhp/brez and so on. so prices should go up in that server.
Server transfears left a huge mark on low population servers economies!
true but that was not part of NC Soft considerations when setting up the transfer rules
I think, they did transfear by "hands". I mean deleting your data from one servers database and just writing into the other servers database file your equipment (not automated proces). so to transfear all your wh and inventory would take a lot of time.
They should let to transfear at least 5-10 slots in your inventory. That could keep low population servers economy more stabile. Now they are left with a lot of items, but with no players to use them.
This is another acedemic argument. There has been no information or hint that I've seen or heard of concerning server MERGERS except on these forums--primarily from people who don't think there own server needs to merge.

NCSoft can address server mergers by any marker they want any time in the future--it won't be up to players or who from bartz, teon, or franz makes the best argument.

First things first. They have mentioned a new Euro server which should occur.

If that migration takes down the existing ones further then NCSoft will consider what it considers and do whatever it feels it needs to do.

No sense getting your panties in a twist at this point.

........and "yes", someone will lose their name in the process.
I'd like to hear the rules they used when merging servers in other locations. Since the transfers pretty much followed the Korean model, there is precident. Let's hear that instead of speculating on how it could happen.

I'd like to hear the rules they used when merging servers in other locations. Since the transfers pretty much followed the Korean model, there is precident. Let's hear that instead of speculating on how it could happen.



We don't need a server merge. Period.

Low population servers need to be turned into Euro servers. Bartz and Dev are the most active US servers, and the rest are pretty dead. Hind and Erica are dead as doornails atm. They just need to affix a (EURO) to them and call it a day. They do NOT need to bring a new server online. How stupid is that? Spread your userbase across MORE servers, leaving the dying servers dead.