To craft or not to craft?

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I recently hit lvl 40 ( yay! ) and I am going to become a Gladiator for the sheer power of offense of the character. I went to looking about for some duals only to find ! gasp ! the economically overdriven community wanted an arm, both legs and your soul for a pair of duals, C-Grade. So, I made my own, which was almost equally as exspensive. I crafted Dual Stormbringers, and +ed them to 4. I saw many different types of duals and I am really unsure on which ones are the best and if I should stick with my current duals or not. Some people told me the Kitana's are better duals, but the power attack on these that I crafted are 195 at the moment, I am afraid to push it to +5 and blow them up. Are there any duals that you can craft besides Stormbringers? Or are the Stormbringers Top C Duals?
u crafted the swords itself o.O? must been pricey =O!
I did, and it was rather costly alone for just the crystals needed. T_T;! But, I also had to spend money on Enchant C Grade Scrolls to get them to +4 without them going kab00m thank goodness. But do you know the status on Duals for C Grade? I need to know which ones are Top C and which ones are just blah.

I recently hit lvl 40 ( yay! ) and I am going to become a Gladiator for the sheer power of offense of the character. I went to looking about for some duals only to find ! gasp ! the economically overdriven community wanted an arm, both legs and your soul for a pair of duals, C-Grade. So, I made my own, which was almost equally as exspensive. I crafted Dual Stormbringers, and +ed them to 4. I saw many different types of duals and I am really unsure on which ones are the best and if I should stick with my current duals or not. Some people told me the Kitana's are better duals, but the power attack on these that I crafted are 195 at the moment, I am afraid to push it to +5 and blow them up. Are there any duals that you can craft besides Stormbringers? Or are the Stormbringers Top C Duals?



1. Wrong section to ask a question.

2. check the library (http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/item.html) . Stormbringers look like low c grade, and the +4 SA is accuracy. Since you're poor, exchange them at mammon with an equal value better SA swords that suit you, and when you have enough ancient adena from leveling in catacombs, upgrade them to top c grade.

3. Don't risk going +5. No one wants low grade tier of weapons. Just save the adena and upgrade them at the blacksmith mammon.
Congrats on hitting 40.

Stormbringer are not top C duals; they're more like a Dark Screamer or Homonkulus Sword. The top duals are combos of katana, raid sword, shamshir and spirit sword.

I'd recommend you try get some +4 Raid*Katana. These give you a bonus to your crit rate which helps alot. Could be pricey though, but dual stormbringer aren't that bad really! The sad thing about 'em is you can't trade 'em and keep your enchant at the mammon blacksmith. Their unique in their grade. =/
Top C duals are any combination of Katana, Spirit Sword, Raid Sword and Shamshir. So a Katana*Katata is top as Katatna*Raid, you shouldn't worry that much about what pair u make since the Blacksmith of mammon can change them as an "even exchange" . what i would suggest is to make any pair get it to +4 (210 p.atk.) so they will get an special ability (like haste, focus, guidance) then if you dont like the ability or want to test another just go to the mammon and he will exchange. On another point if you are short on the money part is it posible to do all C grade with the duals u have I mean they are just 15 point short of the top C +4.
Hope this answer your question
1. Thank you on the Congratz.

2. It wasn't an entire question. More so a question within a statement that was left open for discussion of duals, what is " hot " and what is not, etc, etc.

Though, thank you both for your replys. They were appreciated.
u probly could gotten them alot cheaper tru luxury shops then crafting with mats and stuff x.x
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Joy, wish I had known that earlier, lol. Not really altogether up to date on the crafting, luxury shops, thing. But thanks for letting me know now. I will definitely check it out when I go to begin my Dark Elf. =^_^= My only issue is, I just don't like the attack power being relatively low. I found several Kitana Duals, but I am not about to pay 60 million for +4's. I don't even that much, lol.
Uh, What server are you on?
60 mil for C-grade is pretty steep...

Grats on 40.

Start thinking about B-grade now. Check into the price of individual swords vs. crafting the swords. Also check what the duals themselves cost. Then when you figure out the cheapest option, go from there.

Just to let you know, crit duals are usually favored for Glads.

Uh, What server are you on?



I am on the Erica Server.

Thanks for the info n the B grade, though it'll be a while before I am there, lol.
+4 top c duals should be only around like what 16m ish (luxury shop to get swords again)
40mil is for Kesh*Kesh on Teon, sheesh. Erica must have some really sucky economy atm.
Though my knowledge of the economics of this game are still some what limited, I guessed that +4 C Duals shouldn't be that exspensive. I don't see how people can afford crap like that when they are just lvl 40 unless they have about 4-5 years invested into the game. It is kind of unfair that they hike up prices like tha, that doesn't give us newer players a fighting chance adena wise.

Though my knowledge of the economics of this game are still some what limited, I guessed that +4 C Duals shouldn't be that exspensive. I don't see how people can afford crap like that when they are just lvl 40 unless they have about 4-5 years invested into the game. It is kind of unfair that they hike up prices like tha, that doesn't give us newer players a fighting chance adena wise.



I am on Erica also. Often there are sell shops that try to [censored] the uninformed, be wary.

Buying weapons at the luxury shop (called something else now) and exchanging with the Blacksmith of Mammon is a very good idea.

Crafting any C grade is very pricey because of the high mat prices. But, the prices of mats just dropped on Erica. Reason is many bots got banned and the had to restart there crews. They need to sell raw mats for money at this time. Enjoy it, the low prices wont last for long.

1. Thank you on the Congratz.

2. It wasn't an entire question. More so a question within a statement that was left open for discussion of duals, what is " hot " and what is not, etc, etc.

Though, thank you both for your replys. They were appreciated.



Take a look here for stat on C grade duals C grade duals (http://lineage2.stratics.com/content/db/weapon/index/type/dual/grade/2) click on the name to see what SA they gave when they are +4 some are useful like crit rate SA, +25% hp.. some are bad like .. accuracy +2point.

From the list I see no other dual that has base pack of 175 so i'm not sure if u can exchange with blacksmith of mammon for another similar patck dual. But At least u can upgrade it with AA to a higher patck dual but "YOU LOSE YOUR +4 Enchantment When You Upgrade" so it NOT Recomended.

Since you ask what are the "hot" top C duals, here are a few samples in random order.

Katana*Katana +4 gave attack speed +4%
Raid Sword*Raid Sword +4 gave attack speed +4%
Spirit Sword*Raid Sword +4 gave increase crit rate by 40
Spirit Sword*Spirit Sword +4 gave +25%hp increase

Your dual Stormbringer*Stormbringer are mid C grade duals, the +4 SA it gave are not the best but at least it enchant +4. If you can sell it and use your drawf to crush or buy Dcrystal and Ccrystal then use the crystal to buy from luxury shop in Giran or craft the sword and dual them.
+6 dual kats have been going for 35mil+ on seighardt.. lol.. erg
Well, perhaps someone will be kind enough to rent me some nice duals I can lvl with until lvl 52? I could put down a deposit to ensure that it gets returned, I am an honest person. So, if anyone on Erica is SO KIND enough to lend me some awesome C Grade duals, I would very much appreciate it. -- Crosses Fingers --
You can level with your +4 Storms. That's a lot more than a lot of us had back when we first started out. Back in the day, people leveled to 50+ in D-grade and to 75 in C-grade. In fact, my SpS was in C-grade until level 71 or so (and that was as recently as C5).

Really, it's not going to be a HUGE difference between your duals and top C duals. A difference, yes, but not like "omg, it's going to take me 3 extra months to hit 52!"

It's totally possible to get to 52 with what you've got.

You can level with your +4 Storms. That's a lot more than a lot of us had back when we first started out. Back in the day, people leveled to 50+ in D-grade and to 75 in C-grade. In fact, my SpS was in C-grade until level 71 or so (and that was as recently as C5).

Really, it's not going to be a HUGE difference between your duals and top C duals. A difference, yes, but not like "omg, it's going to take me 3 extra months to hit 52!"

It's totally possible to get to 52 with what you've got.



I agree. Even if it is less than optimal, it's really not by a whole lot. At least take your new Dual storms for run for a while and enjoy the xp until you can afford to either upgrade or until you can wear B grade or so.
Stay with these duals and save some adena for your B (focus) duals. You wont stay long time on C grade so imo dont invest on new duals.
Not 100% sure if this has been broght up. I skimmed through the posts.

If you are unhappy with your duals you can exchange them with Mamon.

However....

If you are upgrading them, you will lose the +4.

If you truly want to upgrade them, this will be a lot cheaper then crafting new ones.

However... (again)

You will not be in C grade long enough to care. Get a good party and just grind to B.

Start getting ready to craft B grade now. + crit duals for the win!