It depends on the PvP level (1vs1, party, siege). WC is a support character. His role in small/siege fights is mostly to buff and do some crowd control. On 1vs1, WC can beat most of the times any other support character and loose respectively from all other DD classes (buffs, level, gear on the same level). The use of CP/QHP pots take care of that.
They are not bad. The are not gods of pvp, but if your skils land and you are set up to cast fast, then you can Sleep, FreezeFlame, Posion then wake them with a drain followed by a soulcry'd stun and melee/nuke away. The strong part about them is that they still have a fast sleep and their DoTs are nice, really when both lands. Also they have fear, im assuming that works in PvP also. Higher lvls the reflect damage is nice too.
Darwin, it's not like that. When you sleep a PC and then use a DoT it instantly awakes. So, forget about sleep-DoT-sleep-DoT combinations. And poison? You mean Venom? The DoT that stops leveling at 5x ? Good luck landing it on 7x toons. Even if you do, the damage it does is laughable.
Drains, sleep and fear are your main weapons, with freezing flame being only somewhat helping. As I said earlier, any DD class can outdamage your drains with CP/QHP pots and soon you will end up without MP. After that, even sooner you end up dead.
To answer the topic question are warcryers any good at pvp: 'NO' , they make close to no damage, can't drain anyone to death, low mp pool (no mp after buffs). WC role is to buff and stay alive till CoV rebuff time
PS. I dont care about lolimpiad, lolduels and lolarena fights.
To answer the topic question are warcryers any good at pvp: 'NO' , they make close to no damage, can't drain anyone to death, low mp pool (no mp after buffs). WC role is to buff and stay alive till CoV rebuff time
PS. I dont care about lolimpiad, lolduels and lolarena fights.
Aye - remember few chronicles back when drain was cheap as any other nuke and there were no CP pots. Orc mages were quite efficient killers of low HP/low Mdef toons.
To answer the topic question are warcryers any good at pvp: 'NO' , they make close to no damage, can't drain anyone to death, low mp pool (no mp after buffs). WC role is to buff and stay alive till CoV rebuff time
PS. I dont care about lolimpiad, lolduels and lolarena fights.
That pretty much sums it up right there. I don't even pvp with my WC unless it's in arena and a PP and SE just buffed me.
Darwin, it's not like that. When you sleep a PC and then use a DoT it instantly awakes. So, forget about sleep-DoT-sleep-DoT combinations. And poison? You mean Venom? The DoT that stops leveling at 5x ? Good luck landing it on 7x toons. Even if you do, the damage it does is laughable.
Drains, sleep and fear are your main weapons, with freezing flame being only somewhat helping. As I said earlier, any DD class can outdamage your drains with CP/QHP pots and soon you will end up without MP. After that, even sooner you end up dead.
the DoT wake now? that lame... i have not noticed that on my warcryer. Must be only pvp? cause my DoT dont wake mobs.
the DoT wake now? that lame... i have not noticed that on my warcryer. Must be only pvp? cause my DoT dont wake mobs.
DoT wake up on PVP but not PVE has been around for a looong time. Chronicle 1 or 2 off the top of my head....happened about the time they nerfed mages AOEing golems with poison iirc.
hum.. I don't really see what you expect (in general) from a support class in pvp.
I mean.. you know you are buffer, so you are not in pvp to make frags. Your job is to enhance your party, in order to make the team win the fight.
People are so much looking at their pvp scores :/
Now my 2 adenas.
Wc is great at sleeping/fearing ennemies while his teammates kill. It can chant of life if no healer, and stun some light or robe people.
I saw many time wc with drac bow using soulcry. It's nice idea imo too. but don't think you will make pvp points that way, because as an orc mystic you will miss sometimes and will never hit as hard as DDs.
I am Domi, so my job in pvp is pretty different. I heal/seal/cp heal/sleep/fear mainly. But in mass pvp, happened that i have to scroll rez clannies to go back to fight.
I think wc can do that too ^^
WC is support, sleep rarely lands worth anything unless you have epics all u do is buff and pull out a bow and assist ur party memebers picking on the weak classes. Assuming they don't have chant of protection or the sws archer song u can crit for 1.5-2k+ with right buffsand soulcry so I wouldn't say damage is laughable.
I'm domi tho so just CP heal/debuff till no mp then run round staying out f the way till I got more mp in mass pvp (bow drains MP and if I go melee then I get dropped hella fast since domi is a priority target in pvp). I imagine warcyers will get dropped if they run in too... easy to get confused with a dominator.
WC`s are not bad in pvp but hey are support class so if u are lucky to last hit some1 u can get pvp
about sleep and fear works only on lower lvls one mental shield and bb
befor time fear was stronger and landed more but now...
not so easy but yes sleep lands and about dots freezing flame is good usual it lands when i use it
when i got ms ee couldnt sleep near 20 cast with trance he had zerk emp and powater and AM wep mb cuz im green :p