Gametime cards

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This is really messed up, its hard enough for me to get a gametimecard and now US gametimecards dont even work on ''Europe territory'' accounts. I dont see ANY good reason for that. And no I refuse to use a creditcard since too many people get banned with creditcard issues.
Not to mention its more expensive to buy an EU gametimecard.

And no I refuse to use a creditcard since too many people get banned with creditcard issues.


Heh? Who?

I think they don't want you to take advantage of strong € to buy weak $ gamecards :p
Yes, but it makes things harder for people like me, that in Italy you just cannot find gametime cards at all for sale.

AND let alone that my friends had been helping me keep my account alive by paying for me, buying me US time cards, and now they can't do it anymore.

It was the silliest thing ever, but then again... why am I even mentioning it?


And no I refuse to use a creditcard since too many people get banned with creditcard issues.


Heh? Who?

I think they don't want you to take advantage of strong € to buy weak $ gamecards :p



Too many people to name, I know of atleast 10 myself.
Not to mention the trouble and headache that happens when someone gets hacked and the credit card data gets stolen.
hmmm, you don't get banned with a Credit Card. You might get banned if you change it too often and the names on the account are different.

However, I've been playing since prelude, have always used a Credit Card or Debit card and even have changed them on occassion and I have yet to be banned.

Just don't do anything that will look suspicious.

Or, you can buy a game card from someone else. Like these guys (http://www.game.co.uk/PC/RolePlaying/MassivelyMultiplayer/~r327789/NCSoft-60-Day-Time-Card/default.aspx?added=327789) with your credit card and you will have a time card and not have the stress of involving NC with your Credit Card. It might be more expensive but you would at least be able to play.
Game Cards stop being sold in Canada too ... Europeans aren't the only ones .. However I got a mastercard, and now i'm paying less then the game cards ... Why I didn't start this earlier ... i don't know
since when is this o.0?
Just to dispell the issue with Credit Cards, the only reason an account would ever be closed for using a credit card is if a Charge Back is filed. A charge back happens when the card owner calls their credit card company and says "This charge was not me, or I did not authorize this charge."

The credit card company then takes the money back and then fines us more. A lot more. So even if you call the credit card company back and say it is a mistake. If they have already taken the money, it is too late. No amount of money will make the account work again.

So the key here is... if you use a credit card, dont call them and say "NC Interactive is stealing my money, take it back."

~spam

since when is this o.0?



Since this month, it seems, since last month one of my accounts was paid with an US gametime card. Trust me, I've been through a week of talking to the customer support about it, and I still find it ridiculous.


So the key here is... if you use a credit card, dont call them and say "NC Interactive is stealing my money, take it back."

~spam


No offense, Spam, but this is just too simplistic. From Wikipedia:
Other types of chargebacks are related to technical problems between the merchant and the issuing bank, whereby a customer was charged twice for a single transaction (duplicate processing) or other various mistakes. Yet other chargebacks are related to the authorization process of a credit card transaction, for example, if a transaction is declined by its issuing bank and the account is still charged.

Another reason for chargebacks are when a customer does not receive the item they paid for. In this case, a chargeback is initiated and the payment to the merchant is reversed.

List of reasons for a chargeback:

* Card holder requests a copy of the transaction receipt.
* Card holder did not authorize the transaction.
* Non-matching account number.
* Transaction was processed more than once.
* Transaction receipt was not imprinted.
* Refund not processed.
* No authorization.
* Customer never received merchandise/services.
* Card not used within valid expiration date.
* Services not rendered.
* Error in transaction amount.
* Transaction receipt is incorrect, incomplete, or illegible.
* Transaction processed for incorrect amount.
* Product different from what was described or promised.
* Counterfeit transaction.
* Transaction not processed within Visa or MasterCard time frames.
* Failure to obtain card-holder signature.
* Signature on the card was blank.
* Signature on receipt different from card.
* Card-holder claims merchant changed transaction amount without permission.
* Merchant knowingly participated in a fraudulent transaction.
* Incorrect Transaction Date.
* Card-holder claims invalid mail or telephone order transaction.
* Card-holder was denied ability to return item.
* Transaction was not canceled successfully.
* Card-holder not satisfied with quality of product or services.
* Debit-cardholder's bank initially approves a transaction, but subsequently returns the charge due to non-sufficient funds, an account closure, or the bank "locking" the card due to a subsequent unauthorized use, loss or theft of the card, or multiple unsuccessful attempts to use it at an ATM.
Elrohir,

Oh I understand all the reasons a charge back can happen. Enough so that I attend an hour meeting every week discussing the subject for all of NC's services. Not to mention I was a retail manager for 10 years before I came to NC. But instead of explaining all of types of charge backs in my original post, I only mentioned the kind that get legitimate account holders accounts banned.

There are many things that happen before a charge back is processed. It takes 60-90 days for it to hit us. If the bank makes a mistake or the customer doesn't want it to happen they have plenty of time to make it right. If the customer does not make it right... well they just played 3 months for free and cost us thousands of dollars.

~spam
Fair enough. My only point is that it does not always originate with the card holder.

I, too, worked (as part of my job) in retail.
heh. i'm still afraid of these credit card issues so i'll better use timecards, no matter it's costs more, but it's more safe.
I´ve seen too many cases where the bank made a mistake and people got banned for it, even when they got the bank to contact NCsoft.

I´ve seen too many cases where the bank made a mistake...


Unless you're saying one is too many (which I would agree) I would seriously doubt you know many people this has happened to. If you know many people who say it has happened to them, I would wager that many of them are not being honest with you and were banned for something else.


I´ve seen too many cases where the bank made a mistake...


Unless you're saying one is too many (which I would agree) I would seriously doubt you know many people this has happened to. If you know many people who say it has happened to them, I would wager that many of them are not being honest with you and were banned for something else.


Ok, 5 cases where I know the person personally and I am 100% sure they were honest with me.
Friend of mine lost his level 77 Elemental Summoner in c5 because him and his wife were getting a divorce and his wife to get even with him charged back his L2 charges on a credit card in his name. Even though it was later cleared up and the money was returned to the bill it was too late and NCSoft perma banned his account. It could not be reversed even though it was the card holder's wife was only doing to spite him.

So be careful if you use a credit card someone else has access to it can come back to haunt you too.
Reading your nickname, i'm gueessing you're either in the netherlands or belguim, if in belguim visit fnac, mediamarkt or saturn, all big cities got a fnac, sure you pay bout 1 euro more for the cards then normally, but meh.

In the netherlands i'm not sure where they can be bought, but i know people do buy em there, so might want to look arround a bit, else just cross the borders to belguim, we dont bite.... much.

(also, i'd advice you to make a new forum account, cause well, the name your using is against eula in english as far as i know.)



So the key here is... if you use a credit card, dont call them and say "NC Interactive is stealing my money, take it back."

~spam



and this quote goes in my sig

(also, i'd advice you to make a new forum account, cause well, the name your using is against eula in english as far as i know.)




LOL - I just google'd it... and without repeating what it means, I don't think it the EULA rules would have an issue with it since it is his board name and not saying/applying it to someone.


(also, i'd advice you to make a new forum account, cause well, the name your using is against eula in english as far as i know.)




LOL - I just google'd it... and without repeating what it means, I don't think it the EULA rules would have an issue with it since it is his board name and not saying/applying it to someone.


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