spoils at HB

are korean dev joking about HB? really....
spoils are S parts (not S80), met fiber (10-20), mithril ore, mold lub, high grade sude (1-5).

I didn't expect S80 parts, but orichalcum/leonard al least.

What were you waiting from NCSoft ?

At every update the "economic" side of the dwarf are nerfed, why would they change the way they do now ?
Surely not because they said it sometimes ago....

Yeah, where is the animal bone/coarse bone powder? Without that, eveything else is pretty much useless at high levels.

(Just look at the totals for mats you need to craft anything...)

I say it again - NC please just delete the dorf class - you have made them useless - please just end the pain now.

what's the meaning of being a FS if i even can't spoil mats for S80, aka orichalcum and leonard?

What is the interest to go to HB coz spoil are worst than at FoG, IT or anywhere else in Elmore/Aden.

Seriously, spoiling rec S arrows, tons of met fiber, or S parts at hellbound is really crappy.

!! those [censored] [censored] didn't hit us enough? what wiil be the next step? no spoils on few mobs? there already is mobs with only 1 spoil at HB (arcane guardian spoils only high grade suede) !!

Do something for us or achieve us now !!

NC Soft better be careful now! Aghen is mad!!! (This is not a joke!!! Don't make him mad! He's scary!)

and you even didn't all seen...
dorfs are the only race nerfed at all chronicles...
read dorfs descriptions again, and see what are dorfs now... i paid for something i don't have. do you know how it calls? Misleading Advertising

But hey, atleast you can get lots of HGS now since you know a mob that spoils it exclusively! /end sarcasm.

Think the devs dont know how their crafting system works... otherwise they would change the amount of base mats mobs drop/spoil to better reflect the needs. Like anyone will need 40k silver or 100k suede or 200k stem...

NCSoft don't care about dorfs, they are left over more and more at each update.
And whatever we can say we all know that we will not be listen at all.

Icarus weapons don't need a lot of mats, don't worry.
:x

NCSoft don't care about dorfs, they are left over more and more at each update.
And whatever we can say we all know that we will not be listen at all.

It's not like if improving dwarves was the best way to fight against bots/farmers.

do NCSoft think there is tons of warsmiths on each servers? coz all mobs are spoiling S arrows rec...
HB is a area enough hard to join, and we could wxait to spoil leonard, orichalcum and adamantine, but no, only S parts, tons of met fibers and S arrow rec...
Seriously, alyra, could you ask to dev if they really hate dorfs? :mad:

It s not that they hate dorf, they only "don't care at all"
We are only being nerfed at each update on our economic side and got no boost for pve/pvp.

Just remembering when the interview in your sig was done and the time that did past since them is enough to understand they could not care less.

It s not that they hate dorf, they only "don't care at all"

I think that about sums it up. I know the devs have to put a little bit of thought into drops and spoil. But, I also imagine most of the time, they use "cheats" or scripts to generate whatever gear they want to test. Thus, they don't really feel the impact that players feel on getting gear. But, whatever the explanation, I think they don't care or are not aware when it comes to dorfs and to matters concerning getting mats and recs.

Icarus weapons don't need a lot of mats, don't worry.
:x

yes! too bad the S80 recipes are 30% :(

Icarus weapons don't need a lot of mats, don't worry.
:x

yes! too bad the S80 recipes are 30% :(



You've got to be kidding! :mad:

They are 60% not 30%

And jewelry is 70%

And they fail like ****s :P I've never ever had as much fails when crafting as on the PTS.

i don't care PTS... why? coz it's a server to test new skills (half of dorfs have only 1 new skill), new areas where dorfs don't go coz they are useless.
So for S80, ppl DON'T need FS, coz S80 parts/mats aren't spoiled, but only on drops (leo/ori/ada) / farming quests (S80 parts).
GG for dorfs great economic side !!

And they fail like ****s :P I've never ever had as much fails when crafting as on the PTS.

To many people running around with +10 or more 2 fail 2 much.

I didn't have that much of a problem.

I had more problems making a +6 S80 Armor set. :(

Oh please, 1 account means 7bil Adena to use for crafting. With that, you can fail a fair amount and still get a few +10 items :)

Now, lets see what happens on the live ^^ When the first ppl actually even get recipes.

Oh please, 1 account means 7bil

You have a point but even at 100% I won't have s80 anytime soon on live . You forget I'm on Lionna. S80 Armor will be in many Dwarf shops on Teon before the first s80 Boot hits Lionna :p

i crafted icarus dagger 7 times - 2 of them were succesful. doesn't seem like 60% recipe to me ...

on the other hand armor and jewelery crafts were ok

are korean dev joking about HB? really....
spoils are S parts (not S80), met fiber (10-20), mithril ore, mold lub, high grade sude (1-5).

I didn't expect S80 parts, but orichalcum/leonard al least.

lol some dwarves never stop complaining.

are korean dev joking about HB? really....
spoils are S parts (not S80), met fiber (10-20), mithril ore, mold lub, high grade sude (1-5).

I didn't expect S80 parts, but orichalcum/leonard al least.

lol some dwarves never stop complaining.



play a dorf and we will see if you won't complianing...
now tell me where is the utility of a FS if S80 mats/basic mats are only normal drops?

are korean dev joking about HB? really....
spoils are S parts (not S80), met fiber (10-20), mithril ore, mold lub, high grade sude (1-5).

I didn't expect S80 parts, but orichalcum/leonard al least.

lol some dwarves never stop complaining.



play a dorf and we will see if you won't complianing...
now tell me where is the utility of a FS if S80 mats/basic mats are only normal drops?



True spoilers is almost a pointless class as it is now, they really should make them more favorable for people and the world of L2

Normally for level 80 stuff you'd need level 90+ mobs for the spoils/drops, are there any in game, did you check all the new places?

are korean dev joking about HB? really....
spoils are S parts (not S80), met fiber (10-20), mithril ore, mold lub, high grade sude (1-5).

I didn't expect S80 parts, but orichalcum/leonard al least.

lol some dwarves never stop complaining.



play a dorf and we will see if you won't complianing...
now tell me where is the utility of a FS if S80 mats/basic mats are only normal drops?



question should be why play a dorf if you don't like it?

i love my FS, but i dislike how dev have seen the place of dorfs intO L2 world after C1. do u see the difference? and it goes worth and worth. As my wife said, dorfs gains a new skill at each chronicle : Economy Death lvl1, lvl2, ...

for mobs i've seen into HB, yes i see all mobs we could see, unfortunately, the invisible wall is up. We are working to lvl up the natives trust, but it is sooooooo long.

i heard a server needs 600k points to lvl up this trust (10 points for a liberated native and 1 or 3 points per mob killed), but i didn't find any clue of that.

anyway, i think this area is bad designed, coz quests (when you find one) aren't explained.

agree, wish there was a quest guide on that area and ok not many atm are able to go there but once there will be enough ppl it's going to run out of space really fast as it's not that big at all..

question should be why play a dorf if you don't like it?

Stop with that non-sense. Someone complaining about something illogical in their class doesn't mean they don't like it!
As if there was no problem in L2, everything is logical... yeah right.

The complaint of the OP is totally justified. And given what's needed to craft S80 gear, we need strong dwarves, not bots.