Charm skill.

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Hello,
What is this skill good for?

Charm
Reduces target's desire to attack.



The only thing I can think of is to use it on monsters when in a group so they dont turn on me. like a RB or something.
Anything else?
Not even NcSoft knows what this skill does.

Hello,
What is this skill good for?




Taking SP ;)
Absolutely useless.

Truly, leave well alone.
Charm is a "competitive skill" it is also a Magic Skill which means that you can use BSPS on it.
The purpose on charm is to reduce the "number" associated with your characters position on the mobs aggro list. The mob will attack whoever is highest on the list.

The factors which influence this skill are:
1. any skill used on the mob, with damage factored on a point for point basis,
2. heals also work similarly for every point healed,
3. debuffs and other debilitating skills have some hardcoded values which are related to the level and power of said skill.

The skill needs to be used IN COMBAT when other players are competing for the mobs aggro with you. You need to STOP attacking and then use the skill.

The limitation of the skill is in that its a single target effect. Its effects are rapidly diminished if you're fighting a group of mobs or social mobs where there is lateral or residual aggro transfer from the mob you're fighting to its social helpers.

It is BEST used to get the mob off the SR or PW if they over aggro. They must remember to stop attacking though. Works well on RB's but equally well on any other mob. Must remember its a competitive skill so if you've been critting like a @#%^ stop attacking and wait a few for ppl to match your aggro score, then use it.
Works ok for swapping out the ET/TK with another Tank if you're short of rechargers and need to continue the fight without resorting to a random zerg.

Regards,
Ellyrion Fiallathandriel
The Reckless Knight
Lunatris (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=961442&an=0&page=0&gonew =1#UNREAD)
Kain
Was thinking it was something like that. Thanks for the answers .

Charm is a "competitive skill" it is also a Magic Skill which means that you can use BSPS on it.
The purpose on charm is to reduce the "number" associated with your characters position on the mobs aggro list. The mob will attack whoever is highest on the list.

The factors which influence this skill are:
1. any skill used on the mob, with damage factored on a point for point basis,
2. heals also work similarly for every point healed,
3. debuffs and other debilitating skills have some hardcoded values which are related to the level and power of said skill.

The skill needs to be used IN COMBAT when other players are competing for the mobs aggro with you. You need to STOP attacking and then use the skill.

The limitation of the skill is in that its a single target effect. Its effects are rapidly diminished if you're fighting a group of mobs or social mobs where there is lateral or residual aggro transfer from the mob you're fighting to its social helpers.

It is BEST used to get the mob off the SR or PW if they over aggro. They must remember to stop attacking though. Works well on RB's but equally well on any other mob. Must remember its a competitive skill so if you've been critting like a @#%^ stop attacking and wait a few for ppl to match your aggro score, then use it.
Works ok for swapping out the ET/TK with another Tank if you're short of rechargers and need to continue the fight without resorting to a random zerg.

Regards,
Ellyrion Fiallathandriel
The Reckless Knight
Lunatris (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=961442&an=0&page=0&gonew =1#UNREAD)
Kain



nah charm is worthless.

if your a PW using charm you need to get your prioaties straight.

Charm is a waste of SP. If you level charm while your lvling your chr you wont have enough SP later on when you need it.

Also if you have too many mobs on you; 1) use switch, 2) use GHP's, 3) use fake death, 4) use exiler of HP.


charm is not the same as switch, and isn't as effective. Now maybe after what he said, it may be good for a sws or tank. but as a PW or SR I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.


Charm is a "competitive skill" it is also a Magic Skill which means that you can use BSPS on it.
The purpose on charm is to reduce the "number" associated with your characters position on the mobs aggro list. The mob will attack whoever is highest on the list.

The factors which influence this skill are:
1. any skill used on the mob, with damage factored on a point for point basis,
2. heals also work similarly for every point healed,
3. debuffs and other debilitating skills have some hardcoded values which are related to the level and power of said skill.

The skill needs to be used IN COMBAT when other players are competing for the mobs aggro with you. You need to STOP attacking and then use the skill.

The limitation of the skill is in that its a single target effect. Its effects are rapidly diminished if you're fighting a group of mobs or social mobs where there is lateral or residual aggro transfer from the mob you're fighting to its social helpers.

It is BEST used to get the mob off the SR or PW if they over aggro. They must remember to stop attacking though. Works well on RB's but equally well on any other mob. Must remember its a competitive skill so if you've been critting like a @#%^ stop attacking and wait a few for ppl to match your aggro score, then use it.
Works ok for swapping out the ET/TK with another Tank if you're short of rechargers and need to continue the fight without resorting to a random zerg.

Regards,
Ellyrion Fiallathandriel
The Reckless Knight
Lunatris (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=961442&an=0&page=0&gonew =1#UNREAD)
Kain



nah charm is worthless.

if your a PW using charm you need to get your prioaties straight.

Charm is a waste of SP. If you level charm while your lvling your chr you wont have enough SP later on when you need it.

Also if you have too many mobs on you; 1) use switch, 2) use GHP's, 3) use fake death, 4) use exiler of HP.


charm is not the same as switch, and isn't as effective. Now maybe after what he said, it may be good for a sws or tank. but as a PW or SR I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.



Charm as a skill predates switch which is a relatively new skill. I admit I don't know what the game mechanic effects of switch are at the game engine level. Therefore I don't know whether it clears the aggro list when you succeed on the skill or whether it momentarily retargets the mob and it will jump straight back onto you when it does its next aggro resolution.
Switch is not available till level 46 whereas charm is available from level 20.
PW do not get feign death.
Spamming pots is not a tactic, and anyone can spam pots that was not the point of the question.
Charm skill may be useless to you, however, if you apply it within a group, be it whilst using a bow or a dagger, it works just fine, all you have to understand is how the skill works.

Regards,
Ellyrion Fiallathandriel
The Reckless Knight
Lunatris
Kain
PW gets Fake (not feign) Death! :eek:
Too bad they inserted a fail rate in C3 I think.
use Silent Step and then Fake Death and you have a almost 100% success rate.

I know I train Bots for fun.


also I never even got level 1 charm. didn't need it at level 20 and I don't need it now at 77+


switch works in a group no manner how much Argo I have built up.

Charm is and always will be a waste of sp to a PW.
I switched a mob and it went from the hate tank to the mage :/

I switched a mob and it went from the hate tank to the mage :/



Yeah, hate it when that happens, it went from me to the healer.. oops, back stabbed the poor mob and it went into cardiac arrest. (as in, what heart??)
:)

I switched a mob and it went from the hate tank to the mage :/



lol thats funny!!

switch does 2 things.
Changes target of, player/npc. Removes target of a player/npc.

Trick just does target removal.

why would I need to change the parameters of hate...when I'll make mobs lose target.

hell if a SR waste MP on charm, and not stun shot they are a noob!


charm needs to be revamped as a target loss skill. Then I'll waste SP learning it!

hell if a SR waste MP on charm, and not stun shot they are a noob!



Now, now. That was a far-fetched hypothesis. I stll have to meet even a newbie who would rather spend SPs on Charm than Stun shot.

I, for one, do get levels in Charm, but let's say it's not top priority on my list (I think I am behind in levels too).