So ... adena seller ad pms are back?

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They were gone for like a week and half, seems they have found some loophole somewhere and today they are spamming the life out everybody
tell them take your name off the list I get no pm's.

They were gone for like a week and half, seems they have found some loophole somewhere and today they are spamming the life out everybody



What do you mean Loophole? NCSoft said they will START restricting Trial accounts now, they can't do much about the ones already out there. It will take time...
Where did you see that NCSoft announce that they are going to reactivate the trial accounts?
I said restricting...
They aren't pming.. they are spaming towns with "trade" chat messeges..
nah I got a crapload of pms 2-3 hours ago, and people were shouting about the pms beeing back
Still. They spam their ads for adena and accounts sales using Trade window and the messages are now ...multi-lingua. Same ad in English, French, German, Spanish, Brazilian, Italian, and so on, and so on.
I have not seen the trade windows, however I have seen the spamming back.

AFK sell shop this morning had at least 15 "pms" from T40001C stating that all my dreams could come true if I sell my soul and use their service.

For one night at least, the adena spam PMs were working again.

Hope they break again.
Kain got bombed by trade shout messages for an adena site. Char that was spamming was named after the site too. Lasted for like 6 hours, lol.
well they could not have thought that the little change they made to trial accounts were going to make any difference... hmm lets see how do they get the adena to sell ... oh wait they have active accounts... there by they have accounts to invite people to join the freaking game as a trial account.

Heres my suggestion to fix this problem, No trail account can PM.

If you dont think thats an option any trial account which is found to be advertising is banned and the account which gave them the trial account is also banned.

Limit it so at most 1 account can give out 1 free trial per week.
I think that banning the account that gave the trial out is a little extreme. However I can certainly understand that it would 100% increase people discretion on giving them out but I think it's a slippery slope that would lead to alot of unecessary bannings.

The no pm on trial accounts is a good thing, perhaps even give the tiral accounts their own "mini l2" version of the server, something like just their starter town nothing more?
problem with the own mini server wouldnt give actual new players the experience of playing the game; change it so like WoW you cannot PM a person unless they are on your friends list and now they can't pm people en mass. limit the number of friends list per toon to say 10 (most new players wont get that many friends in first 20lvls)

And if not banning the people who give them out suspend them on the first instance for say 5 days, 10 second 3rd banned
has any one ever heard of: /block name???????????

why the need to make 15 god **** post about the same subject.

you want their adds to go away?
STOP BUYING ADENA FROM THEM...
Matsumoto /block gets old fast I have about 50 of them blocked and I still get more. I did though get one banned xD stupid bot used the name "GMBar" and was spamming trade with it. that wos one time that I acaully saw something done Immediately O.o.

Also Matsumoto even if the ebaying stopped the ads would still be there, the bots will still be there, because alot of the GRs buy adena and your not going to get them to stop. the only way to stop the problem is to remove whats causeing it and thats the Trail accounts.

Suggestions to kill the ads:
-Remove Trial accounts
-Make trial accounts say 2 or 3 days long
-Make it so that you HAVE to pay at least 1 mth to obtain a trail account
-(easiest and best) Remove the funtion of Shout, Trade, Whisper from the trial accounts.

you already cant trade with the people that use trial accounts. make it so that you can only use general chat, people will be happier to click of general chat rather then trade, shout, or whisper.

make it so that you can only use general chat


Still. On Luna there was a toon standing outside Gludio church spamming adena and account sales ads using the general chat. Only if you completely mute them they will stop it.
They just should restrict trial accounts to PTS...
Is there an easy way to empty my now full /block list?

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Need a point and click window for managing the block list.


make it so that you can only use general chat


Still. On Luna there was a toon standing outside Gludio church spamming adena and account sales ads using the general chat. Only if you completely mute them they will stop it.



But that toon was probably a $15 per month toon, not a "free" trial account.

I am not naive I realize that the money involved for these services will always have companies advertising in game.

Just make it harder for them to do it.



make it so that you can only use general chat


Still. On Luna there was a toon standing outside Gludio church spamming adena and account sales ads using the general chat. Only if you completely mute them they will stop it.



But that toon was probably a $15 per month toon, not a "free" trial account.



How can you tell?
With all the recent bans [on Luna] I seriously doubt anyone would risk one's normal account to advertise such services.
I'm pretty sure if a company is bringing in Thousands a week, $15 isn't a loss to them.




make it so that you can only use general chat


Still. On Luna there was a toon standing outside Gludio church spamming adena and account sales ads using the general chat. Only if you completely mute them they will stop it.



But that toon was probably a $15 per month toon, not a "free" trial account.



How can you tell?
With all the recent bans [on Luna] I seriously doubt anyone would risk one's normal account to advertise such services.



oh for the love of God ... where do I start....

bots/adena site are here to stay - if NCNA had the [censored] they could do something... but since they do not have control over the the content, they can not do anything without NCK permission (do I need to list the bugs that have existed since C1 that have not been fixed).
Deal with adena sellers & botters, vendors of game benefits should not repression, but to eradicate the cause of it.
For the rapid development of my character, I have a lot of monsters to kill, instead of doing quests.
Yet I do Quest to get things (such as the wishing potion quest) and runs from end to end the game world, another player killing monsters get a lot of experience better then me.
He will win, but my development (expiriens) stops
Accordingly, he buys adena in order not to remain naked (i have no expiriens but i have a lot of necessery things), and to accelerate the process uses a bot.
For win i need obtain more experience from quest better than from the simple killing monsters
Necessary to change the game, make many quest for party & solo playng which are difficult to automate
My apologiez for a bad english (i have o lot of problem with translate)

Yet I do Quest to get things (such as the wishing potion quest)



You don't need to do Wish Potion quest anymore -- if you mean the Heart of Paagrio amulet. It is sold by NPC at the grocery shop in Orc starting village. The same applies for many spellbooks: we spent hours and hours, or even days killing mobs to get them (Unholy resistance comes to mind) only to have this update make them available at starting villages. The later one would be a good reason to quit the game. I still feel the devs' sadistic laugh at my face.

/end off-topic rant
This is merely an example of one of the unsuccessful quests
although I received a necklace & demon gloves
But i waste many time for it
Botters & ebuyers on Luna have a highest lvl
I say that the principles of games stimulate the sale of gaming benefits
The fight against sellers game currency - a fight with the investigation, not a cause
Honest players are not bots&ebuyer will actually
New quests for receiving benefits (expoirience & adena) would reduce the attractiveness of gaming buying game currency
But this quest mast be difficult to automate
My apologiez for a bad english (i have o lot of problem with translate)
Adena sellers and botters are easy to recognize and ban, NCSoft just does not do it. It should not take 6 months to ban accounts for botting. A GM that makes a short trip to any catacomb will find any number of rooms monopolized by toons that are clearly botted. What's more, a few simple tests can reveal the truth beyond any shadow of doubt.

NCSoft could take a hard line against this problem but they do not.
Actually, I recently started new characters and stuff and tbh I did not see that many bots, there where some but not as many as I would have thought.
wait till you start getting into the mid-med/high catacombs, we trained over 7 different groups in 1 cata alone just on our way to the back of a lvl 60.

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Well, I'm rolling a TH maybe I can train too. ^^
Today the spams have come en mass. In addition to the 3 previous sites that were spamming, you can now add 2 more. This is becoming a bad joke
Make Trial accounts so that they can't use shout/trade chat and can't start pm's (only reply), shouldn't be that hard hmm?
*sigh*

One of my clannies was even being followed by an adena spammer while hunting! wtf...