Teon & Franz Server Transfers

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A last minute question that was brought to my attention:
Will the transfer process be as usual once Teon and Franz go live (IE, we wait until the downtime on the following Tuesday)? No surprise downtime, right? ^^;

A last minute question that was brought to my attention:
Will the transfer process be as usual once Teon and Franz go live (IE, we wait until the downtime on the following Tuesday)? No surprise downtime, right? ^^;



Yes, that's correct. Teon and Franz will be available on the server transfer list until all of the available transfer slots for the week are gone. After that, they will not be available to choose until next Tuesday after maintenance when the available slots resets.
isn't transfer supposed to be up by now ?
because i still cat transfer...
No, frenshy. 12:00 PM Central Time is in roughly 30 minutes from right now. :)
ohh ye right france is GMT+2 now
thx alyra
does it matter who clicks first?

NC probably didnt have that many "clicks" ever again :)
Yeah denmark is also in GMT+2 now, i forgot that also.

But i have another problem, if i choose my char which i want to transfer it says: No characters eligible for server transfer could be found on this game account.

even though my character is on the eligible characters list :confused:

Yeah denmark is also in GMT+2 now, i forgot that also.

But i have another problem, if i choose my char which i want to transfer it says: No characters eligible for server transfer could be found on this game account.

even though my character is on the eligible characters list :confused:



If you're trying to apply a transfer code right now, you will not be able to select Teon or Franz yet. It will go live in roughly 13 minutes (12:00 PM Central Time).


Yeah denmark is also in GMT+2 now, i forgot that also.

But i have another problem, if i choose my char which i want to transfer it says: No characters eligible for server transfer could be found on this game account.

even though my character is on the eligible characters list :confused:



If you're trying to apply a transfer code right now, you will not be able to select Teon or Franz yet. It will go live in roughly 13 minutes (12:00 PM Central Time).



Ok so since i want to Teon and my lvl 1 char is on that server it comes with that error message. I thought that it would be possible to get to the server selection screen anyway.
no answer for my question :(
give her 15 mins she's busy :)
she answered to questions asked after mine :(

no answer for my question :(



It's first come, first serve. :) Once the slots for the week fill up, they're gone for that week, but there will be more every Tuesday after maintenance.

P.S. Sorry for not answering, Zz, I thought your question was a joke.
no, it could be served by who paid first or something.

no hard feelings Alyra and ty for answering :)
Has it already been filled up ?
I have a transfer ticket purchased in February that I am waiting to use :P.

Edit: Got it in . Wohoo! :)

PS: Teon transfers filled up in one minute I think :)
Weee transfer pending. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Weeee Weeeee. i did it on 2 toons, after that it closed.
2 down, 4 to go (already paid by February ) :)


*edit* i hate typos

Weeee Weeeee. i did it on 2 toons, after that it closed.
2 down, 4 to go :)



Congrats and Good luck on your New Server :D
TYVM
GF...

I had the Service allready paid like 3 weeks ago...

Now i choosed the Char (Lvl 62 Warsmith, Lionna) i wanted to Transfer to Teon (Lvl 1 Dwarf created on Teon) and clicked next... The only Option i got was a Lvl 1 Dark Elven Mystic on Franz... :confused:

I tried it several times, allways with the same result, until the servers were after 2mins or so unavaible again...
lol, got in. Was fast clicking :p
F5 is your friend
ZZzzzznow!!
I got 4 from the 6 toons :) (SD and PP left for next week)

And I paid for them yestarday and today, lol GF!
how many were the slots? 50?
all those you transfer to these Euro servers, are they from Europe?
there should be priority for euro guys....
Alyra i have a question a friend clicked to transfer to teon and at the last confirm it poped a message AN ERROR HAS BEEN OCURED he thinks he didnt got in but the serial code is lost? How can we be sure if our transfer was successful and if we clicked correct is there a way to check our transfer?
one more serious question.


when will next transfers will be available?
next tuesday, during maintenance, after maintenance or next wednesday.


as we all know, a few hundred people were spamming F5 and only a few managed to have the desired transfer, so i think that for several more weeks/months maybe, the same thing will happen.

so we need to know the exact time, every week these few spots will be available.

Alyra, this is really important for us and it would mean a lot to know details.

Thanx in Advance :)
allyra told exact time that open transfer

Alyra i have a question a friend clicked to transfer to teon and at the last confirm it poped a message AN ERROR HAS BEEN OCURED he thinks he didnt got in but the serial code is lost? How can we be sure if our transfer was successful and if we clicked correct is there a way to check our transfer?



Talsa,

Please have your friend send in an inquiry via the "Ask a Question" link in the Support Center so someone can check his order for him.

Zz,

The transfer spots reset after every Tuesday's maintenance, but I'm seeing if we can arrange an exact consistent time so it's something people can plan for.

allyra told exact time that open transfer



About when next week transfers open again?


Alyra i have a question a friend clicked to transfer to teon and at the last confirm it poped a message AN ERROR HAS BEEN OCURED he thinks he didnt got in but the serial code is lost? How can we be sure if our transfer was successful and if we clicked correct is there a way to check our transfer?



Talsa,

Please have your friend send in an inquiry via the "Ask a Question" link in the Support Center so someone can check his order for him.

Zz,

The transfer spots reset after every Tuesday's maintenance, but I'm seeing if we can arrange an exact consistent time so it's something people can plan for.




Alyra is there a way to check our transfer? if i clicked the correct server etc etc?
It seems a little more difficult than is necessary to transfer. I guess it is to add to the ever increasing amount of frustrating aspects to Lineage II. Good gaming.
I was unable to get the transfers done because of the limit of accounts to a credit card, not even from current use. Yay.

It seems a little more difficult than is necessary to transfer. I guess it is to add to the ever increasing amount of frustrating aspects to Lineage II. Good gaming.
I was unable to get the transfers done because of the limit of accounts to a credit card, not even from current use. Yay.



friend of mine cant even renew her subscription paying for 2 accounts with the same credicard.

silly.
thanx a lot for fast response Alyra <3
If anyone on Hinde is transferring come by and I have all the beer and whiskey you will ever want untill you pass out. It's a going away party.

Disclaimer: I am not responsible if you wake up on your new server naked and possibly with a new haircut, eyebrows shaved, eyebrows replaced with a black permanent marker, etc.
Why not have the "transfer list/quota" reset on Wed - the same time as this one?
I dont understand why you dont let the transfer open for the account who already have a high level char on these servers. You do realise that it wont make more people on the server at same time, right?
I mean, if I just want to transfer an alt on same account that my main, it wont change the server population.

Just put a level requirement on the first char so we cant just create an alt then transfer our main but let it open for people who already transfered.


Feanorr
@Alyra!
Is this situation some kind of weird ncsoft joke or something?
Where is the server transfer for teon or franz?
This is not a race! This is server transfer service.
We pay money for transfer service.
This is like manoring system.Every one seeding but very little people get rewards.
I am shouting from here to NCSOFT and maybe Ornery or someone:
You have to recheck this service!
I am a customer and I am not happy about transfer to teon service!
I am happy about transfer to teon service! (-2 for hindemith +2 for teon)
@Torn see below quote from Alyra, just be there at 12:00 PM Central Time and spam for the service


It's first come, first serve. :) Once the slots for the week fill up, they're gone for that week, but there will be more every Tuesday after maintenance.

i know where i ll be for next few (i hope) tuesdays.

@Alyra!
Is this situation some kind of weird ncsoft joke or something?
Where is the server transfer for teon or franz?
This is not a race! This is server transfer service.
We pay money for transfer service.
This is like manoring system.Every one seeding but very little people get rewards.
I am shouting from here to NCSOFT and maybe Ornery or someone:
You have to recheck this service!
I am a customer and I am not happy about transfer to teon service!



Elpy hee hee™
ty Draecke :(

@ashleyhunter
if I will see you in game I'll show you my elpy!
Lionna mostly in witches or Dark Omens ;)

ty Draecke :(

@ashleyhunter
if I will see you in game I'll show you my elpy!



my keltir will protect Ashley from your evil elpy. RAWRRRR
Talsa: You can view any pending services by logging into your PlayNC account, selecting "Game Accounts" then "Lineage II" then click on the "View Status" link. I'm not sure if this will display what server the transfer is to or from, but it will show any pending services.

Regarding the questions about when more spots will become available next week, I've confirmed that it will be after the weekly maintenance on Tuesdays, so please check back then. :)
<3 Alyra. the most active CM evah.

and now with an assistant, woohoooo
Could you give us correct or exact time? I dont wanna broke my F5 key :mad:
Why not just let everyone that want to transfer do their selection and then put them on a waitinglist? That way you can tranfer as many toons as you see fit per week and we dont have to stress the F5 key every week at a certain time.

My two cents
there are 1150 people waiting ahead of you please hold the line for 2 more Months..

so when will Luna be open for Transfer to make this all easier ?
lol luna still 3 weeks open.pretty sure will be at least few months before opening.
need to ahve nobles to get heroes and castle taken even before thinking in opening luna.also enough aa on market to provide the overhelming demand of sss that will happen.i bet u gonna ahve to wait long time
alot of ppl tranfser.
is plenty of spots for every1.
in couple of weeks probably majority of ppl tarnsfer to teon already.
Server transfer is like trying to get into a popular bar or restaurant and that you have to wait till there are spots open. You might not get in tonight so you try another time. Good luck.
Well, according to NCSoft, it's more "if you're a new customer, welcome in and have as many drinks as you want, but if you're a good customer coming from one of our other bars, get lost..."
Well, you might pay for drinks there then puke here and leave a mess. :eek:

Well, according to NCSoft, it's more "if you're a new customer, welcome in and have as many drinks as you want, but if you're a good customer coming from one of our other bars, get lost..."



So they should let 80/80 people transfer on Luna now is what your saying?
lets hope to the almighty, that today there will be more spots available and the transfer window towards Teon will last more than 45" and towards Franz, more than 1'15", like last wednesday.

it would also be usefull to know exact time.

and to all Greeks, dont forget, we re GMT +3 and NOT GMT+2 as we knew til recently.
this was AMAZING!!!!!

now, noone can tell the window opened for 45" only :):D:D:D

it opened for 45 times, 1 sec each.

<3 NC :)

So they should let 80/80 people transfer on Luna now is what your saying?


No, i was talking about Teon, and the fact that you can create ********s of new toons there and completely flood the server, but you cannot transfer one single toon, so this is completely ridiculous !

As for Luna, what difference does it make anyway, we'll see 80/80 toons very soon, just let our automated friends do their job for a little while :)
I was seeing Franz opening and closing. I just saw both Teon and Franz open and close within one refresh. Is it filling up this fast or am I crazy?
no, they open it and close it instantly.

if you re lucky, you xfer
if not, next week
gl and hf to those who made it.
What sense is there to open and close Franz 100 times for five seconds? Teon once? I understand that no system is perfect, but what the hell is this, seriously?
all i know is that i transfered.

no need to search for sense :)



As for Luna, what difference does it make anyway, we'll see 80/80 toons very soon, just let our automated friends do their job for a little while :)



True



all i know is that i transfered.

no need to search for sense :)




Congrats and enjoy your new home :D
Why not just leave it actually OPEN until it's actually FULL.
well, i definetly want to start using aggressive language against the developers but i'm not gonna give u guys any reason to ban me, so, i'll just say that u totally fail in organisation and coordination. There are ppl w8ing to transfer their toons to Teon or Franz for a long time and they are forced to"compete" against each other on who has the faster internet connection so they get through the 60 seconds of transfer availability.

Suggestion: create a list where people interested in transfering to those servers can make their application so u can manage the slot reservation.If these servers are full just expand the server capacity and if there is a lag problem upgrade the hardware, i believe a firm like NC can manage that with ease and if u guys can't,speaking as a customer, u owe us a try.

Thank you
Moderators not answering this thread any more shows how much they care tbh, their customers are deeply disappointed about this situation for months but they don't seem to give a [...] Doesn't this rly make u wanna quit?
It seems server transfers are like the Manor system: must meet with the Manager at the very exact time.
I really feel for all those people keep waiting and hoping next time will be *their* turn.
i've been waiting for "my turn" since the server transfers first came on
I know. I think you have mentioned it once before. :(
demand for teon is large.
being best server was expected
There has to be a better system than whomever loads fastest wins. I mean, come on. We're paying $50 a pop for a transfer and having to fight for a spot? Is it even possible to get a refund if you decide camping the transfer isn't worth the trouble?
I work retail amongst mostly apathetic youths and even our service isn't this bad.
no fight at all.

you just have to find the way.
today are they gonna open the transfers again?
next tuesday.

you just need to be in front of your pc during maintenance.

at least thats what i did and i managed to tranfer more than one toons but i wont say exact number cause many that didnt transfer will get angry :p
transfers opened last wednesday but apparently they reset every tuesday right after maintenance ... so if you want to transfer you need to be camping plaync.com on tuesdays when the servers come back up ....
http://www.lineage2.com/news/news.html#a011162

transfers opened last wednesday but apparently they reset every tuesday right after maintenance ... so if you want to transfer you need to be camping plaync.com on tuesdays when the servers come back up ....




false

you need to be on playNC site AND they reset, during maintenance and not when servers going back up.

at least that happened yesterday. i was spamming for 2 hours and finally i succeed.
dont doubt it ... ncsoft are notoriously bad at keeping to what they say, but the page clearly says "The server transfer slots to Teon and Franz will reset every Tuesday after the regularly scheduled weekly maintenance."



all i know is that i transfered.

no need to search for sense :)




Congrats and enjoy your new home :D



tyvm Ashley but i have to admit that Teon is total chaos.
probably need some time to get used to the change.

and honestly, i agree to the comparison a friend made.

Lionna looks like a small village comparing to Teon, the Metropolis.

the private shops of Aden town, could be even more than Giran's on Lionna.

i just wish that 11/11 servers could be like Teon.


and watching people fighting for olympiads right after DT, was wonderfull, not like US timezone 2 am - 8 am.


in a few words TNX NCSoft. <3
just wish an official time frame would be announced for when Luna will be open for transfers as if more then 6 months away I would transfer off my current server as well if not well with the limit of one transfer every 6 months I wouldn't..
I demand a responsible answer on that matter ASAP. Just tell us the exact time servers are available
send support mail maybe.

luna not gonna open any time soon why ppl keep pushing the subject.
1st u need to see how serve desenvolve.
int like say 2 months and server economic is still [censored] up and ppl transfer would kill economy
demanding will not get you anywhere......

just a fyi

use the support system, ASK A QUESTION... and submit it.....

coming to the forums and being able to post is a privilage and you are not guaranteed any official answer/responce from anyone, you should be overwhelmed and exstatic IF someone official even posts any form of responce to you.
ask a question?oh gimme a break, have u ever used it? they just send u some irrelevant links to help u with nothing ...
and yeah as a customer i follow the rules and i demand their support

luna not gonna open any time soon why ppl keep pushing the subject.
1st u need to see how serve desenvolve.
int like say 2 months and server economic is still [censored] up and ppl transfer would kill economy



Please reread my post, the point was how LONG until transfers are allowed as in if longer then 6 Months away people will move off their death server to one more fun until they can move to Luna and if less they will stay due to the penalty of only being allowed to transfer once every 6 Months..

Thanks for being so understanding here..
I just started a new character on Teon, not even going to mess with the transfer. I'm wondering though, what is the main heavy play times for Teon? Anyone know? I realize it's a Euro server. I mainly switched to Teon because I like teaming up with people, but if everyone's sleeping while I'm playing, guess it wouldn't make much difference.

I demand a responsible answer on that matter ASAP .



honestly, LOL.

we re in no place to demand anything. especially ASAP.

i ll tell you a little secret.
when being polite you might achieve much more than when being rude.

learn to behave son.

and a FYI, they have given answers, they opened transfers, many people and toons are already transfered.

when you really want something, you have to "fight" for it.
u can't judge from the armchair dude
I've forwarded all the feedback and suggestions about the Teon and Franz transfer process to our team. I can't guarantee they'll be able to change how it's set up, but they're aware of the problems some have experienced with the sign-ups.

u can't judge from the armchair dude



anyone can judge from any position..

but it's generally not always right....

u can't judge from the armchair dude



do it a bit more liana plz.

even in our language on pm.
liana?

when you really want something, you have to "fight" for it.


Except when you pay for it.
You pay for something, you get it... but not in NCSoft's world :mad:


when you really want something, you have to "fight" for it.


Except when you pay for it.
You pay for something, you get it... but not in NCSoft's world :mad:



true story ++
yeahhhhh!!!! i got a spot for TEON!!!!!
yeahhhhh!!!! i got a spot for FRANZ!!!!!
This is so [censored] ridiculous...
Do you know of ANY other company that would say "ok, pay us 50$ for one of our products, but you'll get it only when WE decide to give it to you, it may be next week, it may be next year" ?
And i thought only SOE could be stupid enough to even try something anywhere near that stupid...
How do we get a refund for this [censored] [censored] that we're never gonna get anyway ?
Calm down, Grazzzt. You can't change anything anyway, so why waste energy on useless posts? And you realy shouldn't expect any refunds. All people expecting transfeer to franz or teon knew where they're throwing their money so no point making unnecessary noise now.
Correction: "all CUSTOMERS" bla bla, we agreed the terms of NC and we demand a solution to this matter. I've got my spot today as well but watching other ppl still w8ing for an answer ain't a good show.
I got a spot today as well, but I still feel for the people going through all the frustration of trying to get in and I really think something needs to be done about this system. Even IF it were to eventually go away when everyone eventually gets their transfer, it doesn't change the fact that people are very unhappy and a few simple changes could make a difference.
It's simply poor service to just wait until it blows over and people give up on speaking out about it. A little acknowledgement can go a long way. Some good suggestions have been made, I'm sure some form of organization could be derived from constructive complaints.
We can keep hoping. Good luck to everyone still waiting to transfer.
Servers have finite capacity, will you guys get over yourselves allready? Limiting transfers is kinda the only choice.
At least they are giving you a chance to move from your POS server to a server that has more than 3 live people on.
I appreciate that transfers were even re-opened to these servers, I think everyone who didn't make it the first time appreciates it. From the views of others, I expected it to be many more months, possibly stretching into a year or more, if at all. The limitation is expected and I don't believe that's what most people are complaining about. It's simply the system of how we transfer. Nothing is perfect, but there is room for improvement.
Basically, as it is now, regardless of when you paid or how early you were waiting, you aren't given any sort of guarantee. Can you imagine that in an every day setting? Last minute Christmas shopping in the USA 365 days a year. Isn't this why we have lines, wait lists, and the ever so loved "take a number" ritual? Something sucks either way, but at least it's a little more fair to people who have been patient and have been trying from the beginning.
I put my transfer through, so I'm no longer complaining for my own benefit, or that of my loved ones. Still, it is frustrating to have no assurance, especially on something that is intended to be fun and that you have paid for.
For everyone complaining about the complainers, try holding your tongue about a bad system and no assurance the next time you go shopping at a local market. You'd be pretty ****** if you pre-paid for an item and the clerk said told you to come back every week and struggle through a sea of people after the same thing and, if you're lucky and fast enough, you just might get it.

Servers have finite capacity


Then why allowing the creation of new toons there ?
its all about timing.

stop whinning cause they ll close them again and you ll stay out AGAIN, and you ll whine AAAAGAIN!

just try to be present during downtime and if any of you want help, just pm me.

spamming keys is your friend.


Servers have finite capacity


Then why allowing the creation of new toons there ?



because there arent 1000s of new people starting L2 everyday (ie creating toons).
And obviously someone that plays Teon for eg creating a new toon on his account doesnt add to the server overhead.

Whereas there are hundrends of people looking to transfer to an active server, figure 2-3 account per person, math is easy.


Servers have finite capacity


Then why allowing the creation of new toons there ?



you cant deny access to new customers just to please the existing ones.

new players = more money
transfers opened for less than one minute for franz.i spammed refresh and transfers closed after one refresh of my explorer(7:52 open-7:53 closed).I do not think that this system helps players realy cause we are 6 friends that want to transfer.With this system we can't transfer together.NC could hold transfers up for 5 minutes and all people who want to transfer would be satisfied...

transfers opened for less than one minute for franz.i spammed refresh and transfers closed after one refresh of my explorer(7:52 open-7:53 closed).I do not think that this system helps players realy cause we are 6 friends that want to transfer.With this system we can't transfer together.NC could hold transfers up for 5 minutes and all people who want to transfer would be satisfied...




false.

transfers were open earlier than first hour of maintenance was complete and they kept being open for some time.

i managed to transfer 2 toons of a friend that came to my house and we both logged in from 2 different pc's.

the first toon was succesfully transfered a few minutes after completion of first hour and 2nd account transfered about 15 minutes later.

you need to find THE way.

since noone havent pm me so far, as i asked on an previous post, so i could share the way to do it, i thought that everybody was satisfied and managed to make the desirable transfer. i was mistaken.

keep trying people


transfers opened for less than one minute for franz.i spammed refresh and transfers closed after one refresh of my explorer(7:52 open-7:53 closed).I do not think that this system helps players realy cause we are 6 friends that want to transfer.With this system we can't transfer together.NC could hold transfers up for 5 minutes and all people who want to transfer would be satisfied...




false.

transfers were open earlier than first hour of maintenance was complete and they kept being open for some time.

i managed to transfer 2 toons of a friend that came to my house and we both logged in from 2 different pc's.

the first toon was succesfully transfered a few minutes after completion of first hour and 2nd account transfered about 15 minutes later.

you need to find THE way.

since noone havent pm me so far, as i asked on an previous post, so i could share the way to do it, i thought that everybody was satisfied and managed to make the desirable transfer. i was mistaken.

keep trying people



and how can i learn the time tha transfers open...
if you know tha way as you say plz write me a personal message with the "way" ;)
check your pms for succesfull transfer :)

Servers have finite capacity, will you guys get over yourselves allready? Limiting transfers is kinda the only choice.
At least they are giving you a chance to move from your POS server to a server that has more than 3 live people on.


Why should someone who paid for a server change play by chances to move where he wants at first place. A fine solution is the extension of the servers' capacity not opening and closing the transfers every couple of seconds. There is a crowd of peeps who wanna abandon their "POS" servers thats a fact but all they get is NC's ignorance for months now. EXTEND THE CAPACITY IS THE WAY TO GO!


Servers have finite capacity


Then why allowing the creation of new toons there ?



WHEN????? EVEN BEFORE THE TRANSFER'S YOU COULD NOT CREATE A NEW TOON ON A SERVER?????

And you don't have to be a NEW PLAYER!!!


................


Servers have finite capacity, will you guys get over yourselves allready? Limiting transfers is kinda the only choice.
At least they are giving you a chance to move from your POS server to a server that has more than 3 live people on.


Why should someone who paid for a server change play by chances to move where he wants at first place. A fine solution is the extension of the servers' capacity not opening and closing the transfers every couple of seconds. There is a crowd of peeps who wanna abandon their "POS" servers thats a fact but all they get is NC's ignorance for months now. EXTEND THE CAPACITY IS THE WAY TO GO!



Server capacity is fixed at 6000 connections everywhere ... here, in Korea, everywhere. It's not really as simple as you might think extending it, doubt it's even possible

new players = more money


New players ?
In L2 ?
Good one :)

you need to find THE way.


I dont want to have to find any way, i paid for a service that these incompetent ppl at NCNA cannot give to me.
If they cant give me what i paid for, they'll have to refund those 50$.
Does "Trials of Obi-Wan" ring a bell ? SOE had to refund thousands of customers (including me) because of their incompetence :)
Not that I think the system for teon/franz transfer is particularly brilliant but you have to make an effort if you want to transfer which involves a lot of refreshing. Maybe you shouldn't have to but this is the reality. It isn't even that hard, you just have to sacrifice some time.



Servers have finite capacity, will you guys get over yourselves allready? Limiting transfers is kinda the only choice.
At least they are giving you a chance to move from your POS server to a server that has more than 3 live people on.


Why should someone who paid for a server change play by chances to move where he wants at first place. A fine solution is the extension of the servers' capacity not opening and closing the transfers every couple of seconds. There is a crowd of peeps who wanna abandon their "POS" servers thats a fact but all they get is NC's ignorance for months now. EXTEND THE CAPACITY IS THE WAY TO GO!



Server capacity is fixed at 6000 connections everywhere ... here, in Korea, everywhere. It's not really as simple as you might think extending it, doubt it's even possible



Impossible is nothing, they just need to work on it and not slack off


you need to find THE way.


I dont want to have to find any way, i paid for a service that these incompetent ppl at NCNA cannot give to me.
If they cant give me what i paid for, they'll have to refund those 50$.
Does "Trials of Obi-Wan" ring a bell ? SOE had to refund thousands of customers (including me) because of their incompetence :)




ok, as you like.

you can always wait and whine, while me and many others are transfering toons each week.

keep it up m8. more spots for us :)
You think i really care about that anymore ? :p
Trust me, i'm not the kind to wait and whine, just re-read my above message, if i got a refund from SOE you really think i cant get one from NCNA ? :cool:

You think i really care about that anymore ? :p
Trust me, i'm not the kind to wait and whine, just re-read my above message, if i got a refund from SOE you really think i cant get one from NCNA ? :cool:



so, lets see what you re asking and your arguments.



you need to find THE way.


I dont want to have to find any way, i paid for a service that these incompetent ppl at NCNA cannot give to me.
If they cant give me what i paid for, they'll have to refund those 50$.
Does "Trials of Obi-Wan" ring a bell ? SOE had to refund thousands of customers (including me) because of their incompetence :)




you ask for refund with the argument that NC is not able to give you what you paid for.

could tou plz explain me then, how on earth i took what i asked for?

im not on NC's side and more than often i write my complains towards NC.

but on the specific issue, i think you re wrong.

8 toons so far, mine and a friend's also and i WILL transfer more next tuesday.

i also advised a few users in these forums how to do it and im more than certain that they WILL make it the upcoming tuesday.

anyway, i hope you re satisfied with your decisions.

8 toons so far, mine and a friend's also and i WILL transfer more next tuesday.


Well, good for you if you dont have anything else to do in your life than sit in front of your PC every Tuesday at exactly 6 PM GMT, but that's not the case for me. I'm usually at work at this hour and i have far more important things to do than log into my PlayNC account.

I paid for a server transfer, not a server transfer only available for 2 minutes at a given date and time.

And i want what i paid for, otherwise i want a refund.
sadly, things are not always as we wish.

gl on getting it.

sadly, things are not always as we wish.


Things are always as I wish :cool:



gl on getting it.


Well, if i got a refund from SOE, you really think i wont get one from NCNA ? :p


Things are always as I wish :cool:


Wow, Grazzt, you're so cool!
Everyone is cool when it comes to their own decisions about how they want things to be.

I would say though, Grazzt is not "humble" enough for the liking of some. lol

Things are always as I wish :cool:



False, cause as it seems , you d wish to transfer to a euro server, with your way, but its NOT happening!

FAIL #1


gl on getting it.


Well, if i got a refund from SOE, you really think i wont get one from NCNA ? :p



i ll summon my uber guessing skills and i ll inform you that this will probably be FAIL #2

keep it up though, you re amusing.


PS. the transfer of the 2 toons i ll do today with a friend, will be dedicated to you. :cool:
quit derailing this whole topic, try use of pm ?
huh?

we re talking about transfers to Teon and Franz, right?

some of us are trying to help others and some others like to complain about it.

wheres the derail?
ok derail might be a tad to strong but it has been a bounce between 2 ppl argueing.. maybe just agree to disagree ?
kk, enough with Grazzt grumpiness.

to Teon anyone? :p
1 more hour to start spamming again.

sharpen your F5 or w/e method you use.

PS. Grazzt, give it a try m8y. you can do it
for the record...

2/2 done today.

window for first oppened @ 19.18 and window for second @ 19.52 GMT +2.

ty NC.
well teon was reopend 2 minutes ago for exactly 10 seconds
GRATZ TO ALL WHO TRANSFERED :o
OK, WTH. I pay. I see Franz is available for transfer, but the character I want to transfer is not on the list of characters I can transfer? What gives?
That's new event for Euro players - claim what you paid for! :D
NC, how about considering merging some so called "pure NA" servers and open new one or two EU?
the character you want to transfer is either in a clan or a hero :p

you got to detag/loose hero before you can transfer
Either it is not level 40 or it is still tagged. You have to be untagged for the transfer... or any of the other account services.
Or has to be after secong classtransfer and level 40 or abore. And you cannot have any other service applied to that char as well (namechange, sex change)

PS. Grazzt, give it a try m8y. you can do it


Well, i certainly could, but i just got back home about half an hour ago, and now of course it's "not available"...
Like i said, i cannot sit in front of my PC every Tuesday evening, so, i dont know, how about coming up with a "first come, first serve" service or something ?
Ppl could request their transfer, and then NC would tell them "ok, your toon will be transfered this week, or next week, or in two weeks" ?
Cos right now, this kind of lottery to get a service we paid for is kinda irritating :eek:
i think that you ll soon have your chance to transfer

atm, Franz is open and a friend told me that he transfered 3 toons on Teon.

so, transfers at euro servers are open during week also, not just tuesdays.

seems that there is open space
Sooo anyone noticed onpen slots during maintance ?

Yay i managed to click transfer !
Service pending :-)
Well, to be honest i didnt even bother to check anymore as i had totally given up on this "service", but you know what ? i just checked now and the Transfers were actually available !

So, whoopsy daisy, i did it, after all i paid for this Transfer on February 13, and we're now June 11, so yeah, 4 months to get what i paid for, how awesome is that, great job NCNA as usual...

Too bad that in those 4 months of waiting i've completely lost interest in the game and switched to some other more-customer-friendly ones...

Well, to be honest i didnt even bother to check anymore as i had totally given up on this "service", but you know what ? i just checked now and the Transfers were actually available !

So, whoopsy daisy, i did it, after all i paid for this Transfer on February 13, and we're now June 11, so yeah, 4 months to get what i paid for, how awesome is that, great job NCNA as usual...

Too bad that in those 4 months of waiting i've completely lost interest in the game and switched to some other more-customer-friendly ones...



Gratzz Grazzt. finally!

Well, to be honest i didnt even bother to check anymore as i had totally given up on this "service", but you know what ? i just checked now and the Transfers were actually available !

So, whoopsy daisy, i did it, after all i paid for this Transfer on February 13, and we're now June 11, so yeah, 4 months to get what i paid for, how awesome is that, great job NCNA as usual...

Too bad that in those 4 months of waiting i've completely lost interest in the game and switched to some other more-customer-friendly ones...



OMG about time you transfered! Congrats. phew glad that's over with :p

Gratzz Grazzt.


He he love that one :p

phew glad that's over with :p


Well, i agree with you, but do you know of any other company out there where you pay something to them and say, 4 months later, "phew i was so fed up with what i paid for that i'm glad that's over with" ? :eek:
No, only NCNA could achieve something so customer-unfriendly...

Well, to be honest i didnt even bother to check anymore as i had totally given up on this "service", but you know what ? i just checked now and the Transfers were actually available !

So, whoopsy daisy, i did it, after all i paid for this Transfer on February 13, and we're now June 11, so yeah, 4 months to get what i paid for, how awesome is that, great job NCNA as usual...

Too bad that in those 4 months of waiting i've completely lost interest in the game and switched to some other more-customer-friendly ones...




so, hows life on your new server??
full of dramatic competition :p

so, hows life on your new server??


Well, like i said, i kinda lost interest in the game during those 4 months of waiting, so i couldnt really tell you :p

Anyway, i'm happy to have switched from Lionna before they implement their new huge failure called Server Merge where it's once again the no-lifers that are able to wait for the exact precise second in front of their PC who will get to keep their names, regardless of customer loyalty or anything...
lol jesus u complain about everything.
Gotta say I agree with Grazzt on this one.

Also I'm confused. I have one L2 account. I have never had a toon on Teon.
Today I go and create a toon on Teon (whether it's full, "open", or what have you).

So, for a person with an L2 account, I guess I don't see the difference between letting them immediately TRANSFER a toon from another server to Teon or allowing them within their account to create a NEW toon on Teon.
Doesn't Teon get 1 additional toon either way?

I must be missing something simple and having a profound stupid moment or some such!
lol u dont read what is write?
teon have transfer open but as before 1st week of transfer the requested number of ppl wanted to go teon was way more that they expected so now they have limited transfer every week to prevent problem with 2 much ppl transfering.
he should had transfer on 1st week like other ppl wanted also but they decide to wait to see what would happen so they got owned hard because closed after 1 week and they needed to wait until now.

and is pretty obvious u can create toon but creating a toon just to check server and having a person transfer to play everyday is totally dieferent thing

and is pretty obvious u can create toon but creating a toon just to check server and having a person transfer to play everyday is totally dieferent thing

oh noes im sorry but u r wrong my friend. each one of us can create a new char on teon and reroll there and ncsoft can do nth about it.

lol u dont read what is write?
and is pretty obvious u can create toon but creating a toon just to check server and having a person transfer to play everyday is totally dieferent thing



That is exactly my point--it is NOT a different thing nor pretty obvious. Let's see if you can keep up with the math here.
I have 7 toons on Lionna, I have 7 on Bartz, 7 on Devianne, and let's say a total of 10 more on the remaining 7 servers.
But I have none on Teon (whether it's open or closed).
I am able to create a NEW toon on Teon--no problem.

So what is the difference in either my total # of toons or the # ON Teon if I am allowed to transfer one or create a new one?

NCSoft makes it sound like "allowing" the transfer is some bid deal--like they are controlling the server population in some way.
Whether I'm allowed to create one on Teon or they facilitate the transfer of one of my existing toons--Teon still goes up by +1 toon today.
NCSoft is saying in effect, " a new toon created and taking Teon +1 is no problem.....moving an existing toon (SAME account) so Teon goes up +1 is something we will have to wait on....."

Wtf?
srr but u wrong.
u creat toon in teon.ok u can do that but as u say u only created to see if u could create and u have no plan on playing that toon so dont really matter u have 7 toon created on teon server if u dont plan to play toons u created.

they need to test is how many people r online on prime time to see if they can transfer more ppl not number of toons created there.
u dont get my point. i can reroll to teon right now if i want and play there every day 24/7 with my new toon. what will ncsoft do about it? delete my toon? i dont think so
yea you can but at level 1 your not bring over a high level toon fully geared with all your money.

And if you have a level say 78 on 1 sever and you make a new level 1 on teon. 9 times out of 10 before you even hit 20 you will be back on your server on your 78 and be like Teon who?

hell I have a lvl 19 on Teon but it's been 19 for over a year now so do you think they count it as a toon on Teon?


no not when I'm on Lionna 100% of the time.
You are correct.

The point is, I CAN level a toon on Teon. I can switch there right now and the mechanics allow me to create a "main" there--that will be played.
NCSoft doesn't know if I'm just looking into the server or deciding to play there.

The point is STILL that my new creation--whether I play it or not--is +1 to Teon.
If Grazzt (or someone else) wants to transfer a toon they say "not yet--we don't want the server to go +1". If that same person starts and plays a new toon on Teon and it goes +1 that is just fine.
EITHER FREAKIN WAY Teon goes up by one PLAYING toon.

There is no difference--except one is fine and the other is blocked. Stupid concept.

I could have that level 1 toon on Teon to lvl 20 in 3 hours and in 3-4 days be most of the way to 40--with reasonably good gear and a couple million adena out of the economy in my WH.
That's allowed. I couldn't transfer my highest Bartz toon over though........
Brilliant.
Why don't we just let 8k transfer to teon then the server that can only take 6k will lock out the other 2k so they can't play till someone from the 6k logs off or D/C. That would be a better thing to do can we have this set up NC Soft this is what they want after all :p

Why don't we just let 8k transfer to teon then the server that can only take 6k will lock out the other 2k so they can't play till someone from the 6k logs off or D/C. That would be a better thing to do can we have this set up NC Soft this is what they want after all :p



I think that is more to the point.

If they were to have completely open transfers then you would all of a sudden get an influx of hundredes of characters.

However, they monitor new character creating and they can pretty much tell how many new characters over the course of time will be created.

It probably has nothing to do with 200 characters being added to a server like Teon but 200 characters being added all at once.
lol man serious.
if u create a new main in teon will be 1 less spot take on prime time if u play.like i say they control what prime time of teon and check how many players.
if is 5k at prime time they let more ppl transfer but if 5,8k at prime time make sense that they dont open transfer.
is because that u can create new toon in teon and play as main they have limit of players at prime time to prevent ppl from not be able to log
if was just create a toon to be able to transfer u would create at NA time where majority of server is off and every1 would transfer
I think it's even easier than just letting the floodgates open and letting eleventy billion server transfers all at once and the server would be omgpwnt. There is a person that has to perform each and every transfer and all the stuff that you are allowed to take needs to be checked. I think that might be even closer to the reason.

New chars require exactly *zero* intervention on NC's part.
-j
coming up to new levels, i begin to think about a new server for me.
actually, i can't jump till 08-jul-2008 (it will occur on 15-jul-2008...), so i have enough time to finish all businesses i have and say last good-bye to a couple buddies i played with.
currently, i can jump (according to my timezone) to teon or franz. i don't want NA servers anymore, they makes me sick with headache and wondering, who the f.ck i am watching in the mirror at my work's WC wall next day after siege.
unfortunately, luna is closed for a jump and nobody can give me ETA. sadly.
now i almost chosen franz, but i still a bit questioned... i need to make some friend in my national community from both servers to get some general infos. :p