Clanhall Issues with Server Merges

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I dont play on any of the merged servers, but I do see a problem with the merges, the clanhall situation.

THis needs to be made fair for all clans who currently own clanhalls that were purchased thru acutions on their respective servers. I have an idea and maybe some people can add input to make it even more fair. So here it is:


Only clans that currently own an auctionable clanhall are elgible to receive a clanhall on the new server.

The Lottery. Since not all clans can receive a clanhall, why not do it Lottery style? (like NBA and NHL Lotteries for draft pick orders) Clans that hold the clanhalls the longest would get the most entries in this lottery.

So whoever received clanhalls on the first auction date would get 10 entries in the lottery draw.

Second auction date would get say 7 entries and so on. Your clan is obviously only eligible to receive 1 clanhall so if your clan name is drawn again it is discarded. These numbers can be modified, altered to make the lottery as fair as possible but pretty much should guarantee clans that owned clanhalls from teh begiining will continue to own one.

The first clan to be drawn would get first pick at a clanhall, second clan gets second pick and third gets third pick.... and so on. The clans will pay the exact amount they paid for their previous clanhall, as the max bid was not always 2 billion adena.

Also you could have consolation prizes for clans that lose, such as give them a castle or pvp clanhall when the servers come back up, you could continue the lottery until the last clan name is picked and give these clans choices on their temporary pvp clanhall or castle or fortress based on order their names are picked in the lottery.

The GM's ould have to make this a live lottery and it would be quite the exciting event.

This is the fairest possible way to preserve the clanhalls with the clans who currently own clanhalls. That gives these clans a 50% chance of getting a clanhall.

EDIT: this would have to be completed before the new servers go live so whoever is performing the merges can assign the clanhalls appropriately for when servers come up.
It's not going 2 happen. I know I might as well face the Fact I may never get a Clan hall again.

I will try but I didn't Bid 2 bill for one the first time so I really doubt I will get one now because everyone will bid 2 bill now, However I will try. :(
I KNOW at least half the clan halls on Gustin are not used or are only used by like 1-2 characters (i.e. clan died, but enough money in vault to keep ch going and only like 1 person still in clan)

This is probably the same for other servers to be merged, so don't worry too much.
Ashley is right and why not try to get the Hot Spring quest clan hall as that sounds like something you prolly would do well ?

just a fyi but on Kain not all clan halls are taken and except for bandids all the seigable ones are available so it's not as bad as you think..
that brings up a good point. During the lottery if a clan is unable to get a clan member online during it they forfeit their choice if their clan name is drawn.
Hot springs on kain has been taken pretty much since it was put into game
The clan hall issue could be an easy one, if ncsoft korea would actually let ncsof NA modify the new servers.

when the new servers come out, just have in each town, 2x the current clan halls.

for instance, it would work like this:

clans in both servers that will merge & have clanhalls in, lets just say Aden, the clan leaders of those clans will recieve:

Clan Hall Token for Aden. Good for the purchace of 1 CH in the town of Aden.

It works the same for the other towns as well.

the clan halls can not be bought with the 2B+ adena, but only with these tokens.......at least for the 1st 2 weeks of play on the new server.

This way, clans who have a CH in a certain town on both of the old servers can still get a CH in that same town on the new server.

Also if it is the case of an inactive clan for 1 year, or clan leader ban. then guess what.......they wont get a CH token.
Don't forget they added fortresses that sort of act like clan halls, there are plenety of those unowned all the time, go get em...

Hot springs on kain has been taken pretty much since it was put into game



by a carebear clan who doesnt really have to compete for it, well have several carebear clans go after it and may the best one win ^

for those coming from Lionna yes Kain has several true carebear clans who are very active and actually quite large as clans goes these days.. if you don't want to get involved with the pvp/politics side of the game don't seige and stay away from epics and you're fine.


Hot springs on kain has been taken pretty much since it was put into game



by a carebear clan who doesnt really have to compete for it, well have several carebear clans go after it and may the best one win ^

for those coming from Lionna yes Kain has several true carebear clans who are very active and actually quite large as clans goes these days.. if you don't want to get involved with the pvp/politics side of the game don't seige and stay away from epics and you're fine.



bah we do that now :p


if you don't want to get involved with the pvp/politics side of the game don't seige and stay away from the game and you're fine.



Fixed :p

if you don't want to get involved with the pvp/politics side of the game don't seige and stay away from epics and you're fine.




and you will be even more fine if u start learning russian! yes, that's right, Kain is all about the russians now. russian hero chats (except for ferst's), russian shouts, russian bots and russian afk shops all over giran! you'd be stupid if you think it's a NA server. Kain is the new rodina!

udachi vsem!

It's not going 2 happen. I know I might as well face the Fact I may never get a Clan hall again.

I will try but I didn't Bid 2 bill for one the first time so I really doubt I will get one now because everyone will bid 2 bill now, However I will try. :(



whoever puts the first bid in on a clan hall has priority, even if someone else bids 2b after your smaller bid, you can bid 2b as well, and you will win.

so basically, you're going to have to bid 2b at the start anyway.
you have 2 bill I don't?
if you already have a clan hall, why do you have a problem? you will get your 2b soon.

unless of course, you didn't pay 2b for it in the first place, in which case you don't really deserve it.
Hello I didn't pay 2 bill so I won't get 2 bill

"unless of course, you didn't pay 2b for it in the first place, in which case you don't really deserve it."

O thanks I got my clan hall without paying 2 bill so I don't Deserve it?

And who are you 2 say that? Shilien?
welp, tough luck. go take a fortress.

welp, tough luck. go take a fortress.



Great answer.... you know not what you say.
Ok there’s set minimum BID for reason. The Average clan playing active should be able to obtain that and then some to place respective BID, Just as many did. Just as I did in c-4 launch my bid was price of a grade helmet, besides if I had 2B I would buy s grade gear.

The funny thing is no one placed 2nd bid till the last day. Witch was surprising
To me sense I only been playing for 3 months. Thank goodness for the PUMPKIN event when I started and Medals EVENT made me the money I needed to Place my Bid. Now 3yrs 2 months later I loose it for Sake of the game. Fine, but I think its bad management

The major problem is those that hordes of money just want to sit on the Halls so the "little GUY" can’t prosper. I made the steps in the right direction.

Many have came into my clan level up out level me left. Just cause I refused to level that way. I just didn’t get to level 80 in 3 months like some did. I enjoyed what I have.

There's plenty of ways around this if the clan has members that use the hall actively then all is fair, I’ll place my Reimbursed BID and wait, worse case I can buy some IC gloves.
The remainder of my clany’s will leave; they depend on the hall to level.

Can’t wait for the market to improve I have w/h full A grade mats basic mats. Can’t wait to sale and see new people. Etc... Loosing what should not been able to be lost sucks, that’s why majority people don’t siege Halls. cause you have some over powered not involved just come along kill you for the hell of it, rant rage like there all that.

LIKE the rest… this is just Venting and frustration and my opinion. Time get back to reality and do my dishes.

welp, tough luck. go take a fortress.



WTH? do you play the game or you just here for the ride?

welp, tough luck. go take a fortress.



Go find something to do with your life
I have a question. Do you get to keep a clan hall once you win the auction? I mean is there a way to lose it?

If there isn't, then that is BS and all the whiners can eat a bullet. Why should a clan get to sit on their a** and not have to do something to keep it.

Obviously I may be wrong, but from what I have read on here it seems that there are some "dead" clans with a clan hall that should not have it.

Enlighten me.
As long as there is enough money in clan warehouse to cover expences they keep the clan hall.

Your welcome :)
So as long as they don't run out of money they keep forever? That is the lamest, carbear-a** thing I have ever heard of. No wonder these guys are crying. They may never get the clan hall they screwed others out of, back.

That is so weak. they should have to fight for it. This game is supposed to be hardcore. They should have to do something other than "pay rent".

BTW, ty Smittie
"the legend of the rent... was WAY HARDCORE"

So as long as they don't run out of money they keep forever? That is the lamest, carbear-a** thing I have ever heard of. No wonder these guys are crying. They may never get the clan hall they screwed others out of, back.

That is so weak. they should have to fight for it. This game is supposed to be hardcore. They should have to do something other than "pay rent".

BTW, ty Smittie



From your answer above im assuming you don't have a clan hall.

Not every clan hall in this game was available when the game went live. They have become available as the game progressed. In the beginning Clan halls were purchased for close to minimum bids. But as the game grew clan halls became much more use full and much more expensive. I know when the Rune halls became available to purchase it took max bid to get one. My clan spent 2 months just playing the market buying and selling and pooling our resources to have Adena to put max bid in as soon as the server's came up.

I agree with you in one aspect though. I do know that clan halls are limited, and I know there are dead clans and some RMT's who have possesion of clan halls. They do not use them but are willing to sell them for real money. That is the real problem with clan halls. There should be some mechanism to measure the activity in a clan hall besides just paying the minimum rent to keep it. Letting clan halls be purchased just to sell for RM doesn't cut it, but is exactly what will happen after the mergers unless NcSoft NA addresses the issue.