'CT2 - Gracia (Part II)'

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it's always been this way, we get an update and around the same time koreans get the pts to next update
besides, gracia isnt supposed to be complete until next year

besides, gracia isnt supposed to be complete until next year


according to that preview side the final part of gracia will be released in korea this winter ;)
Yeah, well, 2 major updates a year, as it's always been, nothing new here :p.
As the various steps in CT2 sum up to only 1 major update in the end, CT2.
CT3 will probably arrive sometime by the spring of next year.
Does anyone know if the Garcia land mass is coming to us in Garcia 2 or 3?
Unless ive missed it completly and its in patch 1?

Cheers!!
it's not coming in part 1 that's for sure
as to parts 2/3, nothing has been announced as of yet ... afaik they will release teasers for part 2 next week so ... wait and see if they mention anything
anyone know the date the koreans got CT2 part 1?
So we could perhaps use that as a guideline as when we get it :D
actually we get new upgrades ~3-4 months later than koreans

Does anyone know if the Garcia land mass is coming to us in Garcia 2 or 3?
Unless ive missed it completly and its in patch 1?

Cheers!!



Has anyone else noticed that an abnormally high ratio of people on these boards are unintentionally insinuating the Grateful Dead into our forthcoming update?
With as many times as I've read "Garcia" here in the past couple weeks, I'm half-expecting new tie-dye armor designs. :p

On-topic, though, I actually like that we get updates a few months after they hit Korea.
Not only do we get a chance to catch glimpses and previews of the content to see what's coming our way, but it empowers us all to speculate madly on it well before we can form an actual, educated opinion.
Huzzah!
i heard, gracia continent scheduled in gracia final (=part 3).
Does anyone have any inkling on what some of the features are for part 2? I am hoping for refinements to the manor system, and perhaps more depth to the subclass system. Oh and I hope they delete the textures for Draconic LA because it is hideous! (Or they could just introduce another S-grade LA with ANY stats at all and I would get it to avoid Draconic.)

How about you guys? Heard any tidbits? What's your wishlist? :P
more S gradearmor choices would be an option

Oh and I hope they delete the textures for Draconic LA because it is hideous! (Or they could just introduce another S-grade LA with ANY stats at all and I would get it to avoid Draconic.)



are you F'ing nuts?

drac armor is one of the best looking armors in the game.
LOL Drake looks better than Drac on a male DE in my opinion sorry :)
hm... they announced t2.2 pts on 16 july in korea, so, i think, we can have most significant changes information soon.


Oh and I hope they delete the textures for Draconic LA because it is hideous! (Or they could just introduce another S-grade LA with ANY stats at all and I would get it to avoid Draconic.)



are you F'ing nuts?

drac armor is one of the best looking armors in the game.



I absolutely feel it is horrible looking. It is literally the ONLY armor in the entire game that I've seen and didn't love. I think it is totally inconsistent with the artwork style of the game, I think the textures are sloppily drawn, and I think it looks awful on most race/gender combos. It looks pretty good on a male dark elf to me, but that's about it.

No accounting for taste.


Oh and I hope they delete the textures for Draconic LA because it is hideous! (Or they could just introduce another S-grade LA with ANY stats at all and I would get it to avoid Draconic.)



are you F'ing nuts?

drac armor is one of the best looking armors in the game.



It looks ok on some races/classes and horribly on others, but anyway it's not right to strongly verbally attack someone for their opinion of the look of an armor set.
Looks better than blue wolf heavy on a male LE. The shoulder pads on my TK are the ugliest armor I have ever seen period.
/agreed
People Against Shoulder Pads in LE Heavy Armor FTW!!!!
I can see why you guys say that about LE shoulders, altho I don't really feel as strongly on that.

In reviewing Draconic more closely using ivory-tower.de, I decided it is really human male draconic that I despise so much. I'm not overly fond of any, but that one in particular just looks absolutely awful.

/agreed
People Against Shoulder Pads in LE Heavy Armor FTW!!!!



I agree and I don't even have a light elf (well except for an academy toon which I will delete upon graduation). Quite frankly they are so bad that I wouldn't roll a light elf because of the horrendous style.
If you check the look of a LE female in Blue Wolf Heavy, you'll notice that she looks like a Las Vegas Showgirl from the waist down, and a Football Player from the waist up. And... hmm... the male LE does too :P
for me it looks more like a crossbreed between a christmas tree and a capsized canoe :)
maaan, that horse is an awesome mount <3
also the little tazmanian devil type pet looks pretty cool
Yea but it looks like u have to pay extra to get these services? Anyone reads korean can tell us?
meh, if i paid 80 euros (~$130) for the collector's edition, i'd definitely spend a few bucks for one of those packages with all the goodies :)
looks like the pricing is $29.95 for the first 3 and $9.95 for the second 2. That is US of course. Not sure what Euro or Canadian that would be.
These arent exactly pay ... Korea has 3 different account payment options
a. x days unlimited play
b. x hours playtime
c. free to play from X net cafe

what you see are like "bonuses" for people that pay for unlimited play, price remains the same and if for example you pay for 30 days of gametime you can choose either green blue or orange item sets and you get those items for 30 days. Yellow is one week and purple 3 months.
that clears it up alot, Edisson. also makes perfect sense.
but at the same time i'm affraid we won't get all those things for free on our monthly subscription

i'd be willing to pay up to 100 euros for one of those packages if the items were permanent, but wouldn't get it if it was a separate monthly subscription
Im looking at the update and its... really nothing speciall.

Might be that I dont understand anything exept what i can get from the pictures.
Yeah there is nothing much in the preview ... only major things are 3 new instances + 1 new mixed pvp/pve instance, vitality herb drops, increase in vitality (which in effect makes l2 less grindbound) etc etc nothing major announced, at least so far

vitality herb drops, increase in vitality (which in effect makes l2 less grindbound) etc etc nothing major announced, at least so far


i'd say reducing the grind is smth major. almost everyone has been complaining about this.
and going hand in hand with the above is also item weight reduction to 1/3 of original imo.
you get more xp in the same timeframe AND are able to exp for longer cause no need to resupply (spending time to find cheap ss, going through grocery, maybe losing spot during this time, having to fight to get it back etc.)
if this colored things are about korean paying methods, we'll definitely miss this feature. we can choose subscription for certain time, but we can't choose calendar time <-> game time. huh, seems this upgrade will be nothing in most for us. :)
Yes ... to further explain it

yellow + purple are straight forward, 7 + 90 days of gametime no gifts

Green is 100 hours of gametime you have to use up within 30 days and includes a choice of 5 of the 9 new items/pets etc

Blue is 300 hours of gametime you have to use up within 30 days and includes 3 of the 9 new items/pets

Orange is unlimited 30 days gametime and includes a choice of 1 of 3 from the new items

As far as I understand all 9 new pets etc are not available ingame, only through the pay schemes

the 9 items you can choose from are 2 new headgear (cat/skull cap) rideable horse agathion, cute looking agathion, 1 of 4 new pets (buffer/healer/fighter/mage), access to a special instance, custom color schemes,a transport service and a revival service.

transport service/revival service arent really explained but rumor has it that transport = go from one "name" place on the map to another without user interaction and revival = rez yourself. And no clue what custom color schemes do, they mention something about neon lights etc, no idea.

Dunno if/how any of those will transfer to NA. Oh and by the way keep in mind, this is a preview, they hardly ever reveal everything about a new update in the preview
So the pets are only shadow pets for 30 days?

That is so lame.

90 days of gametime no gifts


this seems a little ******ed to me. you reward 1 month stubscribers, but don't reward 3 month ones? oO


So the pets are only shadow pets for 30 days?

That is so lame.


well... if u don't renew your subscription you can't play anyway, so as long as you can log in game, you also have the pet.
90 day is the cheapest subscription ;)
the gifts go to expensive options ... ie you can buy unlimited 30 day gametime (like we do in NA) and get 1 gift or 100 hours of gametime and get 5 both for the same price .

Oh to save editing
Transport Service: Define named areas and auto transport there (ie MyXpSpot) soe to town, restock, use the service and get moved back to wherever you xp

Revival: Self Rez, all exp is returned (call the whaaambulance for bishops/brez sellers)

Custom Color Scheme: Makes your title a preset color, not your nick - your title

90 day is the cheapest subscription ;)
the gifts go to expensive options ... ie you can buy unlimited 30 day gametime (like we do in NA) and get 1 gift or 100 hours of gametime and get 5 both for the same price .


ye... kinda makes sense from the business point of view.


Transport Service: Define named areas and auto transport there (ie MyXpSpot) soe to town, restock, use the service and get moved back to wherever you xp


this sounds SUH-WEET! no more losing your exp spot when resupplying (scroll of town portal anyone? :D)


Revival: Self Rez, all exp is returned (call the whaaambulance for bishops/brez sellers)


although i'm not a bish/ee and also don't have one to box, this sux bigtime


Custom Color Scheme: Makes your title a preset color, not your nick - your title


don't care, i never put up a title anyway

90 day is the cheapest subscription ;)
the gifts go to expensive options ... ie you can buy unlimited 30 day gametime (like we do in NA) and get 1 gift or 100 hours of gametime and get 5 both for the same price .

Oh to save editing
Transport Service: Define named areas and auto transport there (ie MyXpSpot) soe to town, restock, use the service and get moved back to wherever you xp

Revival: Self Rez, all exp is returned (call the whaaambulance for bishops/brez sellers)

Custom Color Scheme: Makes your title a preset color, not your nick - your title



We're not getting any of these right? These are for Koreans only who have that time thingy for net cafes?
hahaha I am sure it isn't for everyone. Bishops and rez sellers aside, self-rez with 100% xp would ruin the game entirely.

*kill**rez**kill**rez**kill**rez* lame pvp. ;)

Ultima Online (the first) had stones you could use to "record" an xp spot and port back to it from anywhere. It was indeed pretty sweet.
I assume it will work kinda like soul of phoenix not perma self brez, but then again who knows ... all that is is announcements about an upcoming update, nobody knows how it will actually work

I assume it will work kinda like soul of phoenix not perma self brez, but then again who knows ... all that is is announcements about an upcoming update, nobody knows how it will actually work



When I read all those things you listed I'm like this can't be real. Not for US / Euro players. It has to be for the koreans. That's why I said what I did.

They should know by now the playstyle people have here is different. Though I like the new pets, I hate the shadow part of it. And the 100% auto rez is just very wrong. Maybe people don't play bishops in korea.
wondering, what is the source of the above information. is it from the preview? can't read any korean. >.>
its from bleh. the unofficial source of the korean translations.

essentially anyone can make up stuff and sell it as translations, though. i would take it with a grain of salt until i see it officially translated.
No it's not ... it's from a friend that happens to be korean, bla translation was posted half an hour later ;) gotta love them timestamped posts
ahhh... bl.h... i can't believe it's true. :p everyone from there posts something "really true". :) i meant, what is the real source? :)
you could post this without unnecessary relation to blh...
it was posted pages ago ... not my fault you cant read :)
and what relation to bla? spudnik mentioned bla not me ... I just posted what my friend translated for me after seeing the site
In a way I think it makes sense for them to offer some of these things as paid services. Perhaps paying for the buffer/healer pet is somewhere in between the cost of paying for a second box (and not everyone is for the second box). Perhaps paying for game services that let you level faster or more easily discourage people from buying adena illegally. I mean.. if people are going to do such things anyway, I would prefer that it be through a legal/sanctioned process that everyone has access to. And, frankly, since NCsoft is the one developing the content I enjoy, I prefer they get the money than some pro-adena-farming outlet in someone's basement.
these paid services will be available only to people who play for a limited amount of time. as i understood it it's another system meant to close the gap between hardcore players and casual. people who play all the time won't have access to those services and i think it's fine.
You mean someone who pays a flat monthly rate cannot purchase a buff pet? Please confirm with source. Not only would that strike me as unfair, but also unwise from a business perspective.

You mean someone who pays a flat monthly rate cannot purchase a buff pet? Please confirm with source. Not only would that strike me as unfair, but also unwise from a business perspective.



read the thread. NA and europe either pay by the month or by timecard. in Korea the option to pay per cyber cafe, exists and is the basis of the shadow items listed earlier.

so no, we wont ever see them unless NCNA updates their pay scheme.
you people scare me ... where did you see this linked to cybercafes? The guy posted everything in great detail... You get the items if you buy 1 month - 100 hour or 300 hour gametime

Yes ... to further explain it

yellow + purple are straight forward, 7 + 90 days of gametime no gifts

Green is 100 hours of gametime you have to use up within 30 days and includes a choice of 5 of the 9 new items/pets etc

Blue is 300 hours of gametime you have to use up within 30 days and includes 3 of the 9 new items/pets

Orange is unlimited 30 days gametime and includes a choice of 1 of 3 from the new items




And nobody knows how this will work in NA or IF it even gets here, it's an announcement about Gracia 2 for korea

read the thread. NA and europe either pay by the month or by timecard. in Korea the option to pay per cyber cafe, exists and is the basis of the shadow items listed earlier.

so no, we wont ever see them unless NCNA updates their pay scheme.



You second point does not follow logically from your first. By your logic, I could say "In Korea, game text appears in Korean. So, no, we won't ever see English text in NA."

See how that makes no sense?

So baiscally the answer is "we don't know if/how these options will be offered to the NA/Euro market." Is that right?
of course, we got no clue how these will work for us, not even if we ll get them tbh
those services dont work in the US because we do not pay for game time by the hour.

We do not play games from net cafes so certain things are altered.

In the NA market I see that coming to as vet rewards. 6 months active game account gets access to 1 reward and so and on and so forth.

Korea has a whole different pricing plan from NA/Euro market because of the different way they play L2 over there.
what about the tazmanian devil like pet? :D
Stop talking about me :o

Stop talking about me :o



lol! :eek:
wait wait wait ... are they including horses? *sniffle* i would be so happy ^_^
So wait, they are killing prophets as boxes now too? Thats awesome, I can't wait for this patch JUST because of this. I can now solo by myself, yay.

So wait, they are killing prophets as boxes now too? Thats awesome, I can't wait for this patch JUST because of this. I can now solo by myself, yay.


did u even bother reading how those pets are acquired? knowing NCsoft they won't even make it to the NA servers.


So wait, they are killing prophets as boxes now too? Thats awesome, I can't wait for this patch JUST because of this. I can now solo by myself, yay.


did u even bother reading how those pets are acquired? knowing NCsoft they won't even make it to the NA servers.



Knowing NCSoft we will. The only service we don't have from them now is Account Transfers. We may not get it at launch, but we will probably get them in the PTS and in some way retail.
Cool I see that macros can be made with different color effects.
I like that alot. :)

what about the tazmanian devil like pet? :D



that's a melee fighter, kinda like a wolf but with dmg/shield skills

rat is a nuker if anybody cares

Knowing NCSoft we will. The only service we don't have from them now is Account Transfers.



It has been some time now I want to transfer one of my characters from one account to the other. Why NC NA don't offer us this service? I don't see where the problem is? :mad:
Can we get some Half Plate looking Light Elf armor in the upper lvls cuz to me that's 1 of the best looking LE armors in game as far as heavy goes, and zubie and avadon to name the other 2 i like . that would be a great update :)

Horses huh now that's awesome but so wrong to not allow mounted combat :mad:

Watching knight classes joust in a tournament at colliseum would be freaking awesome pvp :eek:

Watching knight classes joust in a tournament at colliseum would be freaking awesome pvp



that would be a really cool fantasy isle event that you could do.

I'd get a horse for that.

Can we get some Half Plate looking Light Elf armor in the upper lvls cuz to me that's 1 of the best looking LE armors in game as far as heavy goes, and zubie and avadon to name the other 2 i like . that would be a great update :)

Horses huh now that's awesome but so wrong to not allow mounted combat :mad:

Watching knight classes joust in a tournament at colliseum would be freaking awesome pvp :eek:



I wish they would change the shoulder pads for LE on Blue wolf heavy. It's the ugliest armor in the game.

That would be so much fun to joust with my TK. I would take a vacation from work just to do that.