You syill haven't goteen used to it?
The ones who "choo choo" 24/7 (which eventually gets'em to extremely high lvls) are usually the ones in high number clans...
With the appropriate lvl and politics,they "cook" Oly results as to who they want as a hero...
And all you get in forums is a golden padlock and the reply to send a ticket to the NC S(oon)upport...
Edit: And for me btw,hero staus is to say the least a joke...same as the recomendation system...
One should never "get uesed to it".
I came from Gustin and the situation there was ALOT better.
So there is still much that can be done here, even if the players in general has a bad attitude towards playing legit on Luna.
What u say is true...noone should "get used to it"...
But then again,I come from Franz....where I played since day 1...
I was not as "lucky" as you on this matter...
So plz excuse me for my point of view on this subject...
I guess,seeing than happen on Franz 99.99999% of the time has toughened my skin too much...
Yeah rice... I'm tired of reporting them as well... do what I do.. PK PK PK! At least it stops them from leveling until they look at the PC again.
I'm so tired of reporting bots(although some have been banned).. now I only report bots that KS me. The other day.. I made an adena trail of a cliff into water... and the noobs followed it.
The thorn in my eye is clans and alliances that bot under clan tag 100% openly. Like Infliction/Ekur (they have 7 of 10 heroes even) and those guys. Same with Tsunami.
They have no fear what so ever off getting banned..
And that is obvisouly the case.
The more I try to do something about it the more I notice how little my petitions help.
I want a situation where people are affraid of being caught, where they would go hide in the shadows so that no one would find them. I mean just some **** respect at all for the rules.
If only they would massban now when gracia goes live, then _maybe_ people would think twice before going afk leveling.
Maybe NCSoft would get scared if live players left for other games.. and actually do mass bans.
That's what ppl did :o
But then there are people like I, who likes this game too much to let some idiots drag me down. Ofc I will whine about it as long as it's there but I still play my game.
Maybe NCSoft would get scared if live players left for other games.. and actually do mass bans.
I bet u that if legit ppl left,NC would even more over-protective to botters and farmers....they wouldn't wanna close the game down...too much profit in them :p
guys' what's wrong with that?
if the man whant to pay for acount and make himself a bot, or tow or 3..
so what..?
i will damage you game, and mine, but ....
i dono...i dont think thats that bad...
Well! prices for mats have trebled in the last few days upto 5k for a varnish but i see someone selling at what now appears to be a reasonable price of 2800a and yea the bot programs i have learned to hunt around them, what gets me with the bots is i'm not sure though! but i get the feeling they contribute to lag, with all this and worryingly the lags winning at making not want to bother playing on, i do keep logging off because of it ^O-O^
I'm not sure if it worth me going up them parts fotd/vos because you have to be lv60 to get the quest for mats suppose it's ok for xp, i have lv55 spellsinger with se in tow :)
purdy, the quest is 63.
But i'm 60 and 2shotting with the bish, so it's best possible xp when I get mobs.
The fun lasted about an hour. now the sailors are back.
Venaja I didnt said it' right... i just asked to understand..
i can see that people are yousing bots to sit in markets...
BafBots..
all i'm sain.. if it is wrong and not sopose to be BAN them!!
if it is not, it's just a part of a game, not good part but a part..
I killed 4 bots lastnight with my lv37 scav but only went red on 1 because the mob got last hit on them :) but alas they just return to village and come back into the field all refreshed with newbie buffs none the wiser or worse off, i'm doing ok though i'm spoiling about 60 varnish and 40 silver an hour, all buffed up with SE!
Yea Venaga! your right.... it's lv60 for quest at VoS i went up there for a look around and it was crowded with chars and there must have been 1000's of silver arrows lying on the ground, obviously nuker out for a days hunt don't need the extra wieght to carry.
haha... Infliction warred us now after i post screens :p
It's simple. Don't bot if you don't wanna end up here, noobs :>
because your clan is liars maybe? when blaiming people in botting without any proof you should expect that whole server will be agains liars (your clan). You was nonfactors and will be nonfactors - leveling toon till sub/noblesse in 3 month isnt such big problem and if you still 60+ maybe its because you are total noob and your clan growing without any serious organisation. If you cant play, just dont try to teach how to play the rest of the server. Or we all who plays 12+ hours for own fun should wait when you grow up?
ps: nice try at festivals. the results show already who can play and who not, when your clan cant even beat 42+ toons in 52 and others fests) :D
ps2: almost all first heroes here leveled 50-70% of time with cursed weapon, starting from lvl 18 dagger who first on server picked up zariche in elven village, and was 58+ in FOUR days. Next CW of course was ours because of this. So please, before lying about heroes - RTFM "Exping with Cursed weapon for dummies"
Myron, I posted screens of people botting.
I don't give a **** about how organized or what ever you or others are. I never said my clan is better than any other clan.
I will say it 1 more time. When I find you botting (that means when ever you are outside town) I will show it to others, since petitioning is not working.
I even pm RM who also has warred us, and tell them they have free kills in FoTD cause infliction members are always on bot.
So I watch RM come and kill the infliction guys who don't even react, just keep hitting mob untill they die or auto log off the second they get hit.
So please spare me the bs about your hard work.
Myron, I posted screens of people botting.
I don't give a **** about how organized or what ever you or others are. I never said my clan is better than any other clan.
I will say it 1 more time. When I find you botting (that means when ever you are outside town) I will show it to others, since petitioning is not working.
I even pm RM who also has warred us, and tell them they have free kills in FoTD cause infliction members are always on bot.
So I watch RM come and kill the infliction guys who don't even react, just keep hitting mob untill they die or auto log off the second they get hit.
So please spare me the bs about your hard work.
ololol does RM can kill someone who is more than 60+ levels? Dont joke anymore please about this lolclan. About screens i say it one more time - only NCSOFT have rights to judge someone in this game and when you post your stupid screens (where people exping or resting) you first of all insulting players of Luna and you should be responsible for that. GL in wars with whole server.
And finaly one more thing. This thread breaks forum rules because you harrasing people without any right to do that. Read the forum rules and stop lying: http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=493019
only NCSOFT have rights to judge someone in this game
You are right. I'm just helping them on the way.
you first of all insulting players of Luna and you should be responsible for that. GL in wars with whole server.
Both you and I know, I wouldn't be posting screens if they weren't hugging trees. If you think the whole server bots, then so be it. I'm not bending over for cheaters.
does RM can kill someone who is more than 60+ levels? Dont joke anymore please about this lolclan.
RM is the only clan except Enigma that I have any respect for. I know they work hard and so do we.
Most of our people are in the mid 60's, and play a whole lot.
And there is always some people that are better, who could be in their mid 70's and even with subs, with legit means.
But your alliance is a joke my friend. I have not seen one member who was not afk-leveling so far and I'm not giving up untill you all get what you deserve.
This thread breaks forum rules
How dare you! Who are you to tell people about rules!
I'm just trying to help the few legits in the Luna community to have a better place to play on. Go play a single player game and cheat all you want.
How dare you! Who are you to tell people about rules!
I'm just trying to help the few legits in the Luna community to have a better place to play on. Go play a single player game and cheat all you want.
I repeat once again - you dont have any rights to call people "bots" on this forum. This insults other people and if it was in real life - you can be jailed for calling someone "thief" without proof for example and you should be responsible for your lies. As for game, whatever you do, whatever you say you will always be nonfactor on this server, because you cant play this game without crying, cant do something by your own hands and brains.
Ofc I can get somewhere. It just takes me and my clan longer since we play by the rules, friend.
We are getting there. When, I can't tell you. I take my time.
And if I'm such a non-factor, why do you bother with me?
If you and your clan is so great, what do you fear?
If you and your clan is so great, what do you fear?
Fear? Nobody fears your under-sixty-middle-level clan. Just informed you and your clan members about your future place in servers politics. So when another random member of Enigma dies in PK he would know why this happens and dont ask "why pk??"
Lies from one member must have consequences for whole clan. So gl&hf :)
Naaaw, I'm sure our members will be very frustrated and quit the game cause of your might and terror!
For me this is a game and I treat it as such. Not an ****** measuring contest. No matter how much you threathen me I'm not putting on the blindfold for what you guys do.
Honestly: I've not been pked yet by anyone.
RM is pking us all the time, but I don't understand why they don't touch me tho. Anyway
I'm sitting in town when I study.
Didn't get much xp this week, that much is true.
Also I figured a plan to shut you up.
What would you say if I post a fraps where we pk your members.
Accordig to your sayings you are very high level and we would never be able to harm you... unless you are afk! :>
Now, you have 2 choices. Either just admit you guys afk xp so hard there's nothing like it, or tell your members not to afk-xp anymore cause I might be lurking behind the corner with fraps on.
I hope you choose the last. That would make you legit-er.
Don't try to de-tag either. I got you all documented in screens. Frustrating?
<3 <3 <3
Venaja.. I'm about to move back to Devianne.. less bots and more action.. with clans that actually PVP. Got 40% today on Devi... almost dinging.. should do it in 40 min. ;)
Im actually curious to know if there are any other clans that have enforced rules aganist the use of third party programs on Luna.
With Gracia we may see new players or old ones checking the game out. Would be nice to point them toward clans that actually have people they can talk to when online. :p
Oh and if nonfactor and noob = doesnt use automated leveling programs. Im a noob and proud of it! :eek:
Im actually curious to know if there are any other clans that have enforced rules aganist the use of third party programs on Luna.
I'm not sure, really.
I think RM isn't allowing automated game-play. Atleast I never saw one of them do it. Then there was this lvl3 clan named AntiBot, but ironically some peeps in my clan found some of their members afk-leveling.
It's really sad when people have to ask if a server has more than 1 clan that does not bot.
Still hoping that GM's on Luna will take the blindfold off soon.
Once the server transfers open I'm guessing more good players will come.
Oh and if nonfactor and noob = doesnt use automated leveling programs. Im a noob and proud of it! :eek:
No it doesnt mean it. All players same and trying to get own part of fun from the game. But some of them know how to do things right (i dont mean use of 3rd party programs) and then control epic raids, castles and top spots - this is their main target and biggest part of this players know how to play and be the first on other server. In other side some soloing players who cant find const party - sure they level slow and nobody calls them weaklings and loosers. But when i talk about nonfactors i mean clans who have no organisation at all, who have weak leaders and disorganized players - such people cant beat top clans ingame, cant do hilvl RBs without help, cant even capture castle so they starting to lie about "botting". Same thing was on all servers - just read unnamedboard or other community board. Like in old proverb : "The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on" (no offence ) ;)
Enigma: Lvl 6 clan with 2 royal guards, all clan skills for lvl6, Aden clan hall, Raiding 2 nights a week (with an average of 7 raids per time), clan crafting, more than half of our 83 members are 60+
Those who are 61+ have full or partial A-grade.
We have been winning more than half of the festivals on both sides almost every time. We did not see you compete with your main toons even once. Only with untagged asfhrjjk3 toons.
No one cheats. This is all clan effort.
We don't play 12 hours a day, but when we play we work as a team.
We currently have only one problem and that is finding legit EE/SE/WC.
In summary, I think we are doing pretty good.
Who are you hiding behind a forum nick [censored]-talking other clans. Saying I am lying about this and that.
I will vids of you guys from now on instead, so that there is no doubt.
Also, how do you explain kumbaMK and those two others shagging trees trying to attack mobs on the other side of it?
Is it fake? <3
We have been winning more than half of the festivals on both sides almost every time. We did not see you compete with your main toons even once. Only with untagged asfhrjjk3 toons.
uh oh you got teh legitz names who win 64 and nolimit for dusk sure [searching screens]. Not to mention on previous week you won almost all festival for loosing side with epic scores like 12 or 9 points :D
Yeah this maybe one thing we should respect Enigma - for festival competition and only for that. But to be honest - you keep wining in some fests now not because you so skilled, but just because some of our members too lazy still to level up few twinks. Now when Gracia goes live you should expect harder competition - we got enough human resources to make any fest that we need. Q_Q moar ^___^
I do expect alot more competition from other clans as well now when Gracia comes. I've been wondering for long why other clans don't realize the great CRP income festival is.
And yes, we won losing side several times with just going in to get 1 kill. Simple reason: No one else did.
PS.. I just checked the in game boards and we are the clan with most members, atm 93.
Yeye i know many of you have alt clans too, but still largest mainclan.
if you need like 3-4 months to get 60-65 then in order to become a factor (aka 78+ and noble) you will have to wait 2 years... isnt it tooo slow...? even if you level legit being 60 lvl is for sure a reason for staying a non factor for at least a year..
if you need like 3-4 months to get 60-65 then in order to become a factor (aka 78+ and noble) you will have to wait 2 years... isnt it tooo slow...? even if you level legit being 60 lvl is for sure a reason for staying a non factor for at least a year..
Well.. I leveled 2 dwarfs(1 to B grade, another nearly B grade) till one month ago.. absolutely legit. If you can't reach at least 70 on one normal toon, while I leveled these 2 dwarfs.. it's because maybe you need to learn how to play.
And you can become a factor much sooner... I know I've been making damage on Devianne subs... and created my share of enemies. ^^
1: Einhaiet ******* rock.
2: Buffer keeps buffing even tho Eiheit is being hit.
3: Einheit dies, buffer casting ww xD
4: Buffer stand there like idiot after.
I really want to see you dodge this bullet, T ally.
1: Einhaiet ******* rock.
2: Buffer keeps buffing even tho Eiheit is being hit.
3: Einheit dies, buffer casting ww xD
4: Buffer stand there like idiot after.
dem fakin bots ! i joined luna before 3 days :) and yesterday when i went to lowest necro saw a bot alone in room :d i killed it and then... some DE scrub came with 60+ pet and killed me :)
and then he told me in pm smting like "dont kills my bussiness"
Yesterday I had this huge interesting chat with a GM.. yeah.. they actually exist! It was to report a bug in a quest. Then when he asked "anything else".. chat went in the bot direction..
Same old excuses...yadda, yadda, yadda.
Basically.. "We do ban bots.. but some take time to investigate."... Yeah.. 1 year to investigate a bot that you can see miles away..
Some posts on this thread are completely appalling... I feel sorry for you guys at Luna, when some posters blatantly come to THIS thread to endorse botting, means things are really bad.
I'm no longer in Luna.. I went back to Devianne.. just waiting on some things to transfer toons from Luna to Devi.. although.. I think I'll have to lvl my BH back up.... we'll see.
Just few seconds later:
I see dead body here (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00032rg9.jpg)
We all laughed about riceCAKE in vent seriosly) Hope he enjoyed taste of "tree humpers" response.
When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you.(c) Friedrich Nietzsche
What's that got to do with anything :>
make a thread where you kill riceCAKE.
This thread is devoted to you guys botting...
.. and to gm's not doing anthing about it.
Oh and.. I just wanted to say:
You pm me and said you had been waiting to finally kill me.
Then why did you let me and my friend stay and pick up loot for 10 minutes before you even notice we were there.
Were you perhaps not there? :>
So bots pk you and chat with you when you write to them pm`s after death every time you see them? lol come more to us we just enjoy killing you liars all the time. "Cant win - write petition" isnt it?
ps: naitomea must exp more - onehitted him with EE 1 nuke Q_Q
And for god sake riceCake really newb - even my grandmom can exp Bish in rift till 70+ in that time he posted all screens. Still 65 lol.
Oh and.. I just wanted to say:
You pm me and said you had been waiting to finally kill me.
Then why did you let me and my friend stay and pick up loot for 10 minutes before you even notice we were there.
Were you perhaps not there? :>
you always kill the fly that flies arond you? Or you kill it when its really starts annoying? ;)
I don't understanda why you even bother denying the obvious.
It's not like it's gona get you banned anyway.
You are just bothered that this server has 1 person who doesn't approve of your cheating.
You will see it. People like you kill Luna. It's alot worse than Franz was even. There is no market left and the server didn't even exist 6 months. Giran has like 30 shops selling S grade, boss jewels and enchants. That's pretty much it.
Cause all you botters get all the adena/gear you need just from simply running in trains till end game. Ofc there are poor bots too, like the ES hero... You need to understand you are only pwning yourself with this playstyle. Go back to the private server you came from.
And for god sake riceCake really newb - even my grandmom can exp Bish in rift till 70+ in that time he posted all screens. Still 65 lol.
Yep. I do other things than play all day. This is just a game for me.
Remind me why you are here defending bots again?
Shouldn't you be on the other forums discussing who has the biggest trains? Anyway. I'll keep posting screens of your afk [censored] when ever I see it. This game has too many trees and rocks for you to be able to look normal even for a minute when you hunt.
Remind me why you are here defending bots again?
Shouldn't you be on the other forums discussing who has the biggest trains? Anyway. I'll keep posting screens of your afk [censored] when ever I see it. This game has too many trees and rocks for you to be able to look normal even for a minute when you hunt.
Always nice to see you :D At least now you know who pk your members when i have time to do so) You really be surprised how many pm`s i got even from 2-side enemy about Enigma exp locations. Looks like nobody loves you on this server :confused:
I'm pretty sure RM isn't giving you locs. Cause they are the only other legits that exist. So they don't have anything to worry about.
As for other clans. I don't give a [censored]. They all botters and deserve it.
Besides you are not fooling anyone. You don't have 2-way wars.
Or you would be killed while afk all day long.
I'm pretty sure RM isn't giving you locs. Cause they are the only other legits that exist. So they don't have anything to worry about.
Besides you are not fooling anyone. You don't have 2-way wars.
Or you would be killed while afk all day long.
So maybe you tell me how Leopards party (clanleaders) make logouts just right after someone targets them or hit them (logout in combat mode)? Even dont saying about PR all time they dont even see gank group.
About 2-side wars - Imperium droped 2 days ago. So only 2 days without wars) Only one RM mage party (the one i personally respect) always came for us, not always loose. Still hoping Enigma up wars back but this will be some kind of science fiction if happens ))
We got 2way with RM too. We are around their lvls, so it's a sweet war. Lots of fun. I don't know if they bot or not. Haven't seen it so far. But how does that make you look better?
And seriously. This server will be wastelands before we have the lvls to war back bots.
I bet you will transfer too when you realize how boring you just made it.
Just read abit on the other forums, you made alliances with every rus clan on server?! Except RM.
Happy PvE mate. Did you get all the heroes and lvls and epics to be able to kill mobs better? :O
Cause that's what your future looks like. Make the ppl here a favor and go play the official *****-server when it comes. Then you wont bother anyone else.
Ally all rus clans on server its about EarthQuake? They isnt really serious force right now because half of them in our clan already and this is bad as for me( Other UT, Cats RealmAxis warring with us so wth what "ally with all server"? What about epics? We shouldnt kill them and let chinesse farmers do this? Its funny really.
As for official *****-server - those server will be full of freeshard school boys that cant watch their tongue and filter language so NO WAI i better reroll on Blood and Soul ^_^
Yeah.. Well.
This really is a lost cause. All the bots in these pics are still strutting around in game. Same goes for all the ones I petitioned with normal ingame petition.
NCNA prefer to make some more money from the bot trains subscriptions.
That's only revenue right now. When the last real players dissappear and even the botters who didn't use their credit cards to get gear advantages too go away. Then what?
Only the "factors", as they call them selves remain..
You think they will stay if they only can PvE with their thousand dollar gears? Think again.
Anyway, I want player interaction when I play. So I'm moving out too. Be it Gustin or some place that is completely free of bots. I haven't yet decided.
EU timed severs would have been the greatest of ideas if only someone... just someone, enforced rules on them.
If you ask me.. real players should just schedule a manifestation... and logout at same time... for 1 or 2 hours.. to see if NCSoft bothers with having bots only servers..
Edit: I heard that 4 heroes were talking about botting and programs in hero chat.. is this true ?
Wow, I seriously almost cried when I read this thread. What V. did takes a lot of determination and guts - more than it ever takes to PK someone in this video game. I truly applaud her, her clan, and any other players on this server and in this game that take an active stand against this type of cheating despite the backlash that they may face as a result of it. It was truly apalliing to see Myron (or whatever her name is) come into this thread to try to defend it. It is no secret that this happens all the time.
The only time I have been able to get a bot banned was when the person actually admitted to botting [IN PMs to me]. Other than that, I have spent over a year Petitioning the same bots over and over again, and even using the online support site with virtually no results. NCSoft always says that they do ban players, and that they investigate things - but if they would get off their heavy bums and go look when the petition goes in (like a GM is supposed to), there would be no investigation necessary because the rule-breaking in Obvious.
I think Luna was a colossal failure, and anyone who actually left their toons on another server to reroll on this one was in deep denial if they thought it wouldn't be an AFK race to end-game.
People like Myron and her alliance just make this game suck bad. If only there were less of them and more of us.
When I choose Luna to make my char I thought it would be a good idea to play here because it's relatively new and I wouldn't face many power-mongers. Instead we have bot-mongers. LOL
Be the global, be a private server, there's always people who cheat themselve by using third parties programs. Yes, they cheat themselve, because if you stop to think, they're paying to not play. You can say anything, that at leats they're strong, and all the bla bla bla, but as matter of fact, they're simply paying to not play. On a private server I can even understand, they're there's to test stuffs or just for fun.. but on the official server!? aff...
Well.. I've done what he's doing in Devianne.. but didn't work very well.
Fortunately the ammount of Bots there is like 10% of Luna's.
There was more of us once, but most left after see that we were getting suppaced by bots and NC gaved no care about the problem. The failure of Luna happened becouse once the server is new and has more probability of getting new players most of the "automatic" community gone to it...
Edit: I heard that 4 heroes were talking about botting and programs in hero chat.. is this true ?
Even if they dont talk about it its true.
Ive met heroes in catas running or is part of bot trains.
Really sad that this server is all about botting.
And nothing is being done to fix the server situation.
If i could start over i would have chosen another server for sure.
Would have transfered my chars to the new server but transfer
is way to expensive, when i want to transfer more than 1 char.
WTB a ban hammer
On Luna the Bot population around my level (50 more or less) went down!
before the update i had to pk at least 1 bot party/day to get a spot, not i don't need to pk them cos i always get my spot (tho if i see them i pk them anyway :P (sin eater ftw))
OH?!
That would explain why the hell I can't log in to my main account.
Well I had no problem loging in to this one though. weird.
I don't have any clue of what on earth my answer for the secret question is. It's something I made up in 2005 when I first registered :(
But I 'asked a question'.. and they asked 100's back.
I have no clue where i lived in july 2005 or what my last 4 digits of the credit card was.. I don't even have the first acitvation mail. lol. I really hope i am not screwed cause they changed my password.
Oh, I don't know. I played L2 last time in early september.
I will play on Phoenix now. Even though I loved Enigma more than anything before, I just can't stand to play on a dead server where we were the only live players.
Oh, I don't know. I played L2 last time in early september.
I will play on Phoenix now. Even though I loved Enigma more than anything before, I just can't stand to play on a dead server where we were the only live players.