Crystal count reduced

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I just crunched some D grade items that I've had laying around. I found that the crystal count is lower than before the update. So while its true they lowered the price of items in the store, it appears they also lowered the crystal count.

Anyone else noticed this?
Yup , they lowered the amount of crystals
hmm, for a moment I was wondering if they just gave the BH a gimped version of the crystalize skill.

hmm, for a moment I was wondering if they just gave the BH a gimped version of the crystalize skill.



the Cost to Buy the Items in the first place got reduced so the Crystal amount had 2 get reduced. or you can just buy a ton and crystal them and make a killing selling the crystals.
Unrelated, but in the same category: "Commnon" items, while plentiful, don't really represent any significant crystals when crushed. It looks like shot prices will remain pretty stable.
truth, but still nice to have the extra crystals from the normal items.think i had a nm robe normal drop last night which only translated to 68 a grade crystals. still that can craft a decent amount of shots.
Ok, I can maybe understand why they reduced the crystal count on stuff you can buy in the store. What about stuff you can't buy? I just crushed a Doom Shield that I got on a drop a couple weeks ago, that's top B grade. I got 87 crystals instead of the 112 that the web site says it's worth. I don't think that's quit fair.

Unrelated, but in the same category: "Commnon" items, while plentiful, don't really represent any significant crystals when crushed. It looks like shot prices will remain pretty stable.

Except it bumped up the threshold for easily obtainable crystals through NPC's From C/B to B/A grade

Ok, I can maybe understand why they reduced the crystal count on stuff you can buy in the store. What about stuff you can't buy? I just crushed a Doom Shield that I got on a drop a couple weeks ago, that's top B grade. I got 87 crystals instead of the 112 that the web site says it's worth. I don't think that's quit fair.


I think the reduce of prices hitting the shops is not only for buying but also for selling, meaning that if you sell a Doom shield now and get less back from npc shop than before Gracia (ofcourse don't sell, just look at the price you get for it), then the crystal amount decrease should make sense, has anyone tried this? (also mats amount for crafting stays the same if this is true because mats sold to npc might also be cheaper (not sure but only explaination i would find possible))

Simple example:
selling <some random gear> to npc shop:
- in Gracia gives you back: 5mil adena
- before Gracia gives you back: 4mil adena
At the same time though, Now S crystal prices have skyrocketed about 25-30% in price, so S shots which were stupid pricey before, are even more expensive now.
people were crying that I should sell crystal C for 2400 despite my effort trying to tell them the crystal value is decreased :(

truth, but still nice to have the extra crystals from the normal items.think i had a nm robe normal drop last night which only translated to 68 a grade crystals. still that can craft a decent amount of shots.



Absolutely. I love the changes. I was trying to head off the inevitable, "OMG they nerfed WS SOOOOOO BAD!" conclusion that some might have been tempted to jump to since everyone will have at least a small trickle of crystals available to them.

Also, I noticed last night that since the drop rate for common items is so high, and the weight/slots that the items take up remain the same...some of the "automatons" are just leaving those items where they lie. So yeah, it's hardly any crystals for one common item, but a field full of them? Good times. :D

Pickup
Crystalize
Pickup
Crystalize
Pickup
Crystalize
Pickup
Crystalize...
Wanted to post this as an interesting note about the Common Item drops.

2 nights ago. party on 10th floor TIO.
76 Arcan Lord
71 SH
69 TY
party lasted 4-4.5 hours. at the end almost 2 complete sets of armor

Last night same party location on 10th. (same time of day also)
76 Arcana Lord
71 SH
58 BD
party lasted 3.5 hours.......ZERO common item drops.

so....did the B grade BD nuke the item drops? or what?
L2 drops are on a dice roll. There is a chance that you never, ever, ever, ever, get a full drop in your entire life.

It's small, but it's still there.
Dunno but I got 2 standard carnage 1 standard bloody orchid and 6 standard dc/tallum boots/gloves .... all where lying on the ground around hot springs :)

gotta love them bots, got all the crystals I needed for 3 dle crafts
Standard or Common?
common sorry ... used to play on the pts and i guess "standard" stuck as the name for them.

but then again It took me 3 chronicles to stop calling BoPs Hazard bows :p

common sorry ... used to play on the pts and i guess "standard" stuck as the name for them.

but then again It took me 3 chronicles to stop calling BoPs Hazard bows :p



LOL
I know what you mean. In my case I was talking about the new Common Item drops. Something I understand is supposed happen fairly often. Normal full drops are still as scarce a +16 wep droping from a raid boss.
What do you mean.. what is this BoP you speak of? Are you talking in tongues?
The highest standard (common :P ) item i ever got was Avadon Gloves in a catacomb on the PTS. Afterwards i did quite a bit of exping with my level 73 char and didnt get anything anymore.
I'm guessing you dont get higher standard items than the items you can buy in the Luxury Shop.
all great for anything under S. But yea S crystal costs still suck now