PP or WC

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In my other post, i ask about what buffer to choose, but since it's in the LE mage section, i thought, it'd make more sense to post it here. (You can delete the post if it's evil to cross post :P)
Summoner Duo (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1144211&an=0&page=0#Post 1144211)

The general question was, if to choose PP or WC as buffer for a pair of summoners. I can do either, since i have EE+ and a lowbie subclass to delete :P.
imo SE is better duo, since summoner gets haste2 at 52. But yea.... u are subbing with an ee =.=

I read the other thread about that you're looking into either PS/ES.

For PS, u can make a PP as one of their summon have passive vr.
For ES, wc might be better choice. Nevertheless, you can always be the healer for ur summon and hunt places that drop pots if u make a PP :p

VR provides a lazy option of not needing to heal ur summon that often :D especially if you love to hunt in dungeons. But if you like to hunt in fields, PP should be the one :)
WC if you are lazy, means less buffing and less healing
PP you'll get a wider variaty of buffs, you'll be buffing more and need to heal more often since you wont get vr.

I would personaly go for pp and maybe even SE before WC
We are TWO summoners; ES and PS, making my old EE+ subbing. But i got the point: PP > WC :P.

Btw, does it also hold for high lvls (at least 70+ or even s-grade)? Coz' CoV is kinda pointless for summoners :P.
PP is best for Boxed so go PP ;)
war cryer is the best box
make it warcryer

war cryer is the best box
make it warcryer



shhhh were trying 2 bring back the PP ;)
there is no bringing us back make a warcryer u will be much happier
Prophet
The Prophet makes his allies strong and his enemies weak using the highest level of protection magic. With the blessing of the gods, he increases the maximum value of physical strength for another party through Bless the Body. The Prophet also increases his own MP through Bless the Soul, and if necessary can perform Return to go back to a village.

Hierophant
Priests who have chosen to diverge from the Order's orthodox doctrine - "unless for reasons of self-defense, you must not harm others with magic" - believe in resorting to aggressive tactics to achieve their end. A great number of Prophets are working to make the world a better place today, but those among them who have reached a new pinnacle after hearing fate's whisper are referred to as Hierophants. the Forgotten Class!
See guys.. even the 80 Hierophant agrees with me.

COV is a moot point for summoners, thats not even why im saying go WC.

SE would be better than PP even.

And like someone said before, you have strong heals for your pet, so it wouldnt need VR.

Well then, you wouldnt need resists either...

Just make a WC already.
/agrees with smittie AGAIN!
<3
i love PP for zerk only but i really doubt i could give up vr and split second full party buffs for that
We're doing our 2nd ccq... Hopefully we'll manage our class change tonight :). And then I'll sub my uber EE to wc for a start :).
/win! for the wc
for me i need both classes' buffs. btb, bts, blessed shield, vr, zerk, ww. well for tank class. blessed shield and advanced is important but from EE skill ;/ but yea WC is better for pve and pvp. but dont get me wrong all the high end pvp video, they have pp buffs too. i also notice there is more pp in box as buffbox than WC.
Would be a pain to buff 2 summoners AND their pwnies with a boxed PP...

Would be a pain to buff 2 summoners AND their pwnies with a boxed PP...



Macro ftw? :o
This buffing 5 ppl, is just a bit of an argument... usually (admittedly), we forget to buff until the timer shows up, and then, it's useful to have party buffs over solo buffs.

When our pets die, we can rebuff really fast after that, that's nice. Mana usually isn't much of a prob with the WC (at least till now), even when we from time to time have to rebuff before the 20 minutes pass.

But I noticed one rather vital point where WC beats PP imo. When we're under heavy fire and all 4 of us (2x Summoners and 2x pets) are losing hp, already kinda oom, not totally yet, but still.

Or for instance, when we're at kama, and our tank goes low on hp.

That's the time, where I really love WC's HoT. The cast is not uber fast and I have to switch windows, but within about 5-7 sec, it starts healing and it's pretty strong. That's what saved our lives quite a few times already ^^.
imo PP :P

acaully since the PP is as dead as they come do WC though you wont get BTB, BTS, Zerk, WW, Concentration, Elemental resist, ect. then again you could always just take the SE route and jsut you magic haste pots.

PS BTB and BTS REALLY help a Summoner
Well, SE is just simply impossible, since EE+ is LE, so no DE classes allowed.

The WC has a nice heal and VR; no WW REALLY sux. Concentration would be nice, zerk maybe too, but that's two things, that I'm not that terribly addicted to.

As for BTB/BTS, how can they help to summoners? When i played my EE+, the only reason to go for additional MP, was for raids. Unless you play so, that your MP regen is enough for healing your party, you play in a bad place anyway, or lack buffs, gear or just simply skills of the players to play their toon well. And BTB, i only ever used when i had conversion. (And btb, i don't see as an argument for PP, coz' that one, i can get from staff and BTB 5 vs. BTB 6 is not a big difference).
soon the sumoner will be able to buff that to like every other one of our buffs have been delt to other classes
Im tring to keep the pp alive shush LOL

Acaully when I play my ES i want BTB and BTS because I use Transfer pain and the pet heals I dont dies as fast if I get agro from mobs and my pet doesnt die as fast because I have more mp to heal them.
im not knocking on you mystic i am just stating a fact of my own existance in the game. most things i xp'd hard to get other classes now have. i think that summoners will get those 2 buffs if not a combo buff type for ur pony <3