just your bad luck
if you do a search you will find a lot of other threads asking the same question and lots of ppl have got full drops
in fact it seems they increased the drop rate, just search if you don't believe me
just your bad luck
if you do a search you will find a lot of other threads asking the same question and lots of ppl have got full drops
in fact it seems they increased the drop rate, just search if you don't believe me
Screenshot please. I dont believe a word, no offence.
I guess my next full drop I will Screen shot it for you then.
Had I known drops was a problem I would SS it but I didn't so you just have to wait for the next one.
And I get crap from Kama. you only get drops from low level Kama. Most of my toons are higher level and only do the higher level Kama's and they give Junk. In fact I do them for the XP and fun event for the clan, the drops are a after thought.
Its just that this has been discussed and overly discussed. I for one, havent gotten any full drop (excluding the NG ones) in 58 levels, since the Gracia update.
So until i get a drop myself or see some conclusive evidence of this, i'll stick to my conclusions.
I know you Ashley and Akjosch are respectable players, but i still like my piece of evidence, thank you :)
Yes, it would be very interesting to see if "real" full drops (i.e. not common items) still drop from "normal" mobs (i.e. not kama or raid bosses). I know that NG full items still drop - since there is no common NG stuff in the game. But I have not had any D or higher "full" drop since this expansion came out, and nobody in my clan has received any full drops except from raid bosses/kama. Even if you look at the well-known drop site, no "real" full drops have been reported so far except from raid bosses/kama, even for things which should REALLY have dropped by now (e.g. mobs being reported 30k+ times and still no full drop, only the common version has been reported, even though the drop rate was not that bad in the last expansion, for example D grade items).
Its just that this has been discussed and overly discussed. I for one, haven't gotten any full drop (excluding the NG ones) in 58 levels, since the Gracia update.
So until i get a drop myself or see some conclusive evidence of this, i'll stick to my conclusions.
I know you Ashley and Akjosch are respectable players, but i still like my piece of evidence, thank you :)
Thanks and I will get that for you when I get a full drop again. Right now I'm trying get more LS I was getting them all last week but this week I haven't gotten 1 LS drop. Also I had update my Full drop List I forgot the full Blue Buck Skin Boots Drop I got while Training Bots at HC ;)
I'm gonna go ahead and say you're lying. Or you're counting special mobs (kama, raids, etc.)
The most commonly used drop website (that I unfortunately can't post here because it'll get censored) has probably over a million mobs recorded, and as far as I can tell not a single full drop D-S grade that is not a common item, Excluding raids and kama
I'm gonna go ahead and say you're lying. Or you're counting special mobs (kama, raids, etc.)
The most commonly used drop website (that I unfortunately can't post here because it'll get censored) has probably over a million mobs recorded, and as far as I can tell not a single full drop D-S grade that is not a common item, Excluding raids and kama
Well I'm picking them up in the Catta and far as I remember there are no Kama in the catta.
So if I'm lying then that 8 mill sitting in my inventory I made off that BW Robe is a lie. and I'm going just act like it's not in my inventory because it's a lie.
And the D grade drop I didn't kill the mob to get I will admit it was a drop the bot left on the ground but it's still a full drop. And so was the C grade book drop that was done buy bots also and I ninja it while running thou Apos. yes it was a ton of Common items also in the room in fact picking them all up filled my inventory and I had port out because I was so full but still got the Drops. I think if anything the drop rate just got worst because of the Common Items drop but they do still drop or I would not be getting them.
The site your taking about it base on the people that run the program in they back ground in order to even obtain the information. that you speak of.
So the question is how many people grinding run that program and are you your self running that program? ;)
You can't say there is no Drop because I'm getting them and the Stupid Bots are getting them it just a lot less then before.
If you ask me it's being adjusted after every restart because before last restart I got LS like crazy (and started putting them on my S and A jewelry) . after this last one I have not gotten 1 LS.
Yea I have common but I crushed that but I have a Full one also and I still have it. I decided to keep it because I never got a full drop of that and not sure if I ever get one again. I just got the common one. but like I said it's crystals now.
I've not seen a single drop anywhere since CT2, not 1, anyone I've talked to is the same way, not a single normal item dropped since CT2. That's at least a good 30 people who haven't gotten anything. And yet here you are, claiming to have gotten not just one but several.
That, in addition to the website's data means I still think you're lying. Either that or someone likes you a lot and follows you around dropping items for you. I think it's more likely you're lying.
Common Weapons & Armor
Common weapons, armor, and accessories are sold in shops and dropped by regular monsters. These items cannot be enchanted, augmented, or enhanced. Common items can be changed into Kamael-specific weapons and dual-swords.
Superior Weapons & Armor
Superior weapons, armor, and accessories are crafted by Dwarves and dropped by Raid Bosses. These items can be enchanted, augmented, or enhanced. When a Dwarf happens to create two weapons, armor pieces, or accessories from one set of materials, Superior weapons, armor, and accessories are the type of item that are created.
Ashley, I'm guessing those full drops you got are in fact bugs where the drop tables haven't been updated to remove the Superior items. But based on this information from the library, what we have known to be 'normal items' from OB, are craft and raid drop only.
You can't say there is no Drop because I'm getting them and the Stupid Bots are getting them it just a lot less then before.
You are the first person to get a full drop from normal mobs that I know of, in game, in this forum and in the web drop sites. I don't doubt you, probably it's a korean random 1:1E+90 chance ;)
So I'm getting full drops from a bug I highly doubt that and I'm not the only one getting them. Most of my alliance don't even post here on l2 forums. I doubt they even go to the site.
Maybe the drop database site has a problem registering the full item drops, who knows. But simple fact is that I do not get any full drops, nobody I know has received any, that database does not show any and the official site states about "superior" (=full) items here (http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/items_overview.html) that they can only be crafted or gotten from raid bosses.
Well, it would not be the first time that official information is wrong, but even IF full items still drop, it must be a ridiculously low chance, simply because I have not heard about any drops, have not received even a single D grade full drop in 4 academy toons since the latest expansion and even others here on the board say it is the same for them. Maybe it's a bug that they drop :P
I think so, too. Just trying to figure out where those exceptions come from - probably really a drop list which has been forgotten when they updated everything for this expansion.
There are countless NPC's in game and it wouldn't be hard to miss one or two. Maybe it was fixed in the latest and unexpected downtime. Maybe it's being fixed in the maintenance today or maybe it'll never be fixed.
agreed drops are the least of our problems. after over 4 years I have all I need anyway. Everything I get now is just Fluff and play money to spend OOOO 2 time go Shopping :)
Now if we could just get some decent sale's.
JUST BECAUSE PRICES ARE HIGH IN REAL LIFE DON'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE IN GAME. :mad:
As far as I'm concerned, the current drop rate is the same as the old drop rate.
BEFORE Common Items (CI) were introduced, I'd gone hundreds of levels across numerous alts without getting a single drop from C grade on up. It's either a bad joke or a sad commentary on my luck as far as drops are concerned. Maybe both.
Now that CI's are here, I've been getting those like crazy. Yesterday I got a CI Tallum Helm drop in FOTD. I would have preferred the normal item.
In lieu of that, I would prefer that the mob dropped the 60% recipe, the 13-14 helm patterns and all of the mats (down to the crystals) necessary to craft the normal item in one neat little package. And yeah, put a bow on it!
Don't feel bad. I went from level 1 to 73 prior to common items being introduced without getting a single drop. Then at 73 I got a DC Robe drop. A drop was such a foreign concept to me that I spent 20 minutes try to rez the robe cause I thought it was a dead player that was stuck in the ground.
SinPalabras, there are probably around 100 people who regularly read this forum (low, unfortunately) and only ONE person has had a full drop. I bet before Gracia, at least one of those people per day could probably say they had a full drop.
Also, explain why l2... houseware doesn't show ANY full drops yet.
SinPalabras, there are probably around 100 people who regularly read this forum (low, unfortunately) and only ONE person has had a full drop. I bet before Gracia, at least one of those people per day could probably say they had a full drop.
My point is before Gracia I wasn't getting any full drops as a result of the drop rate. That spans several chronicles and characters. That I'm not getting any full drops now because of CI's is immaterial to me. No full drops then; no full drops now. The net effect is the same from where I stand, even if the causation is different. ;)
Don't feel bad. I went from level 1 to 73 prior to common items being introduced without getting a single drop. Then at 73 I got a DC Robe drop. A drop was such a foreign concept to me that I spent 20 minutes try to rez the robe cause I thought it was a dead player that was stuck in the ground.
You made me laugh out loud!!!
When I hear stories of people who have never gotten a full drop, I am amazed. I've been really "lucky" as far as full drops most of my L2 life, getting every kind of drop you can think of all the way up to my current level. I even got the s80 earring from Baylor... even though it was pretty useless (54 mdef and sleep resistance) but... I crushed it and got 884 S crystals, so that was pretty cool!
It's not a myth...it just had the same crappy rate as other full drops did. (Like 1/15,000 for a Robe of Seal or something.)
But, there are/were very, very few of those in the spoil tables that I was aware of. (Like 5 or less, most in D or C grade.)
Knowledge gloves were like this, used to be drop or spoil only. Rate on getting them off the Golem that had them was roughly 1/400 iirc. (yeah, I only got 1 pair off them the entire time I was in level range...)
It's not a myth...it just had the same crappy rate as other full drops did. (Like 1/15,000 for a Robe of Seal or something.)
But, there are/were very, very few of those in the spoil tables that I was aware of. (Like 5 or less, most in D or C grade.
Yup, best I ever saw was a clannie spoiling a full plate armor off some mob in DV. I do not think there were any full item spoils for B grade or higher.
The only full item spoils i got in the last 4,5 years was low-mid D grade equip ( white tunic, cursed stockings, knowlege gloves and some other). There is no full item C,B,A or higher grade spoil.
The only full item spoils i got in the last 4,5 years was low-mid D grade equip ( white tunic, cursed stockings, knowlege gloves and some other). There is no full item C,B,A or higher grade spoil.
Like I said, at least until the last expansion you could spoil full plate armor (the whole item). I just had a look, it's from Cave Maiden (check the warehouse database). Tried to find the screenie my clannie posted back then, but the post got lost when we switched our forum software, it seems - he got it during the expansion in which full item spoils were introduced, don't know which one that was.
Full item spoils have been here for a long time, but all of those are in the low grades, and most of them are items no one would care much about anyway. I've never seen full B spoils, I've heard of C grade but never personally had any.