considering ncbot doesn't care a censored about bots,
not only,they have removed training mobs in cata and karma thing is really stupid cause if i want to pk a train bots they ress each other and in a minute i have 45 pk that requires 1 years with the sin eater quest,
in this situation only a stupid would say that the game
is designed for legit players,
every new feature they add is done to make bots
bot better,hurray.
i want to make a permared toon to clean my cata rooms.
which class should be the best?
need something hard to kill in body to body
and with good dd per sec.
considering ncbot doesn't care a censored about bots,
not only,they have removed training mobs in cata and karma thing is really stupid cause if i want to pk a train bots they ress each other and in a minute i have 45 pk that requires 1 years with the sin eater quest,
in this situation only a stupid would say that the game
is designed for legit players,
every new feature they add is done to make bots
bot better,hurray.
i want to make a permared toon to clean my cata rooms.
which class should be the best?
need something hard to kill in body to body
and with good dd per sec.
ty m8s.
DAggers miss 2 much and run out of MP Destroyer is 2 slow
Use a Necromancer (Got 2 love range killing with a Summons.)
everybody say a different class,
i've played necro/storm/daggers for years in private servers,
necro would run out of mana but yes summon hit hard,
so it would be better a pure summoner,
dagger run out of mana even faster,
consider is always 1 vs 9 people or more with healers,
also my main is a pw i don't want to exp a dagger again til 61 T_T,
destroyer and archer seems good,
never played both,
mmm destroyer could be funny :P
Well since i'm here i'll throw in the crazy idea of making a Warlord :P
I mean you've got 9 bots to kill, i'm thinking a few sweeps of the wrist will help you clean that place faster, besides hitting everybody at the same time will add to the confusion. And umm did i mention group stun? :)
Necro? Okay. I use Spellhowler. Click, click--*poof*
Blow up their healer & buffer/rezzer. Many times that will cause the group to log out.
After Necro/SH I like the dagger idea just because of expense. As a red you will eventually lose your weapon and daggers are a bit cheaper to replace through B-grade at least.
Or, go another way. Scavi/BH to seed their mobs--when you get tired of that, roll their healer & support toons with the dwarf.
Don't make this so hard and don't post another "bot rant" if you don't mind.
They are tired and useless posts (seriously).
i've played necro/storm/daggers for years in private servers,
+2 before lock
official forums will miss you my dear friend.
OMG FBI KNOCKING AT THE DOOR!
cure yourself you really need a good specialist.
ps:
ncsoft is probably glad there are private servers more than you butthurt think cause 1)they diffuze the game and 2)they push peple to try official server in order to avoid private servers problem,like gm corruption,few people,and tons of bugs.
and for what you probably do not know:l2j is legal. :O
So NCSoft is glad their proprietary information has been stolen and is being exploited by others for profit that does not return to them.......?
You're an idiot.
1)nothing is stolen,
"NCSoft gives out their client for free and maintains its operating copyrights at the centralized server connection level,An L2J server was challenged in both South Korean courts and US courts over 4 years ago and the difference in software was sufficient to pass."
2)exploiting and profit are words you cannot use here,
as private servers are free to play.
3)biggest part of l2 players have tried it on private
servers before going retail,like i did,
if i woudn't have the chance to try and like this game,
for sure i wouldn't have arrivied here with my $$$ for ncsoft.
4)use your brain and try to see deeper
before say [censored] [censored].
Private servers are for whimps and fools. You accomplish nothing and learn nothing of importance. You are not playing the game, though you are consuming significant resources of time AWAY from NCSoft while goofing off on pretend servers.
Those who play on them didn't do NCSoft some "favor" by coming to the real game and paying for 3 months. They screwed NCSoft over by NOT paying them all the while they played private.
The private servers most DEFINITELY stole the original content. Whether they changed details enough to win a court case isn't relevant to the argument.
NCSoft didn't call up various groups of hackers and say, "here, take our Proprietary Code and use it all you like!"
So your argument is that NCSoft is somehow HAPPY there are private servers and that from NCSoft's perspective, the many private servers are filling a positive and vitally needed role?
i use your type of language so can understand me better:
you are an [censored] hole and don't know a [censored] [censored] hole
bout l2j,don't understand a [censored] [censored] hole about economy
and marketing,so go [censored] yourself.
Necro? Okay. I use Spellhowler. Click, click--*poof*
Blow up their healer & buffer/rezzer. Many times that will cause the group to log out.
After Necro/SH I like the dagger idea just because of expense. As a red you will eventually lose your weapon and daggers are a bit cheaper to replace through B-grade at least.
Or, go another way. Scavi/BH to seed their mobs--when you get tired of that, roll their healer & support toons with the dwarf.
Don't make this so hard and don't post another "bot rant" if you don't mind.
They are tired and useless posts (seriously).
Mages are the worst classes as PK characters, considering once your red a good portion of your skills are rendered useless. You need something that you can kill someone with, and if they happen to be their and flag your not screwed. ALl a Mage can do when red is Nuke, because no one is going to flag on you and Silence, Slows, Surrenders won't work. Also, considering they are slow, they are Horrible PK toons.
Archers, especially an SR will be your best option.
i use your type of language so can understand me better:
you are an [censored] hole and don't know a [censored] [censored] hole
bout l2j,don't understand a [censored] [censored] hole about economy
and marketing,so go [censored] yourself.
regards.
Private Servers, and most of their players are so inferior to those of retail, they aren't worth comparing at all.
Could careless what server you came from, Private Servers are typically stolen version of the game, rendered to that of the GM's liking in which they make money illegally from something they didn't even create.
private servers are ALL illegal. you dont know [censored] about L2 because you played private servers with altered rules.
this is the core reason you came looking for a PK class.
it seems you are more stupid i've ever thought,i was wrong,
cause you don't understand a about the difference between l2j,l2off and other stolen source emulated server,
that l2j is not.
if you think your reasons are more intelligent that the ones
that brought south korean and US court to declare l2j legal,
well,
tell it to ncsoft,
may be their listen to you as good as they care bout bots.
i repeat for the idiots like you that has problem with the laws:
L2j its self is legal,
client is free and copyright is in server side,
all coded by l2j team from zero,
Modding Nc soft Software is Illegal (client),
and all other emulated server requires a patch to
modd the client.like l2extreme was.
It's not an officially supported NcSoft server, so essentially whatever explanation they gave you as to credit their server is null. I could careless what they did, and or didn't do.
As for them coding everything from Zero, you and I both know that's completely bull, cause if they were that capable of a development team, they would have made their own game.
They copied a game, and coded it from scratch on their own, with their own modifications. Sure its different enough to claim it is THEIR own, but no matter what way you want to twist it the idea was not theirs to begin with, and they did nothing more than copy it, and slightly modify it.
Either way, you can justify L2j all you want as being legal, no one really cares because its nothing more than a manipulated copy of the real thing, and no one has respect for players from Private servers around here.
It's not an officially supported NcSoft server, so essentially whatever explanation they gave you as to credit their server is null. I could careless what they did, and or didn't do.
As for them coding everything from Zero, you and I both know that's completely bull, cause if they were that capable of a development team, they would have made their own game.
They copied a game, and coded it from scratch on their own, with their own modifications. Sure its different enough to claim it is THEIR own, but no matter what way you want to twist it the idea was not theirs to begin with, and they did nothing more than copy it, and slightly modify it.
Either way, you can justify L2j all you want as being legal, no one really cares because its nothing more than a manipulated copy of the real thing, and no one has respect for players from Private servers around here.
law is law,
whatever you think it's legal.
while about "respect for private server players" i mean
this is stupid,
it's just a game made of pixels you should use to relax
or enjoy in pvp,
don't take it so seriously,it's ridiculous.
Here's a better question for you. In what countries were these taken to count in, out of curiosity?
As for Law is Law, could careless. It's an unauthorized duplicate of a game, with slight modifications geared to the same users. That's illegal in my mind, and standards... I mean, it's not even a Generic version, it's the same stuff slightly modified.
Unauthorized? Two different judicial systems don't agree with you. "It's the same stuff slightly modified." Let's go boycott every company that makes aspirin.
I'm a dagger and it's great for PKing. Most trains I go against have 3 or more buffers/healers/rezers, including the DD's that might carry res scrolls. One backstab insta kills every buffer and most of the DDs so it is not too tough on mana.
I don't know what game people are playing where daggers are missing a lot.
Here's a better question for you. In what countries were these taken to count in, out of curiosity?
As for Law is Law, could careless. It's an unauthorized duplicate of a game, with slight modifications geared to the same users. That's illegal in my mind, and standards... I mean, it's not even a Generic version, it's the same stuff slightly modified.
south korea and Unites States,
that's why fbi never shutdown any l2j server.
that looks the same thing modified it's obvious
graphics etc are in the client so it's the same,
but about mechanic,skill etc it's very different you can find by yourself trying and see for example how skills are full of bugs and many skill don't work at all,geodata is full of bugs you get stuck in every wall etc etc,
for not talking about low population,no economy,
and sometimes gm corruption.
that's why people say "ey try official everything should
be better there",and here we are at the biggest problem of official i haven't found in private servers:BOTS,
and at my qustion:HOW TO KILL BOTS IN CATA AND FARM MY OWN AA.
First of all Spot - there is a key called "Shift" it makes reading your "Grandpa Simpson" posts much easier to read.
Second - can you please post the link of the actual court case that stated that L2j is legal - I did some checking myself, and could not find a court case on it in the US court system.
Third - Private servers are bad and so are most of the players on there, because they come to Retail and then ask silly questions on how the game works.
ok im skipping to the end and if i repeat something oh well
now Necromancer if u wanna straight slaughter or Spell howler and i say these two cause they are the strongest and can do body to mind. also can get sin eater done rather quickly specialy with vitality.
now if ur not a fan of the squishy i would recomend bounty hunter only cause they get stun have great p def and tons of life . they are choice cause they also get fake death. but if you are trying to let bot bite the dust by mob its good odds your stun will land. and does good dammage to lower hp.
im all for orc as its my main! however fake death is a great advantage to getting deep to reach your target or dragging a train (yes i know it doesnt work as well as it use to but if the room has many surrounding in close u can still train. but i agree Destroyer would also work
ok im skipping to the end and if i repeat something oh well
now Necromancer if u wanna straight slaughter or Spell howler and i say these two cause they are the strongest and can do body to mind. also can get sin eater done rather quickly specialy with vitality.
now if ur not a fan of the squishy i would recomend bounty hunter only cause they get stun have great p def and tons of life . they are choice cause they also get fake death. but if you are trying to let bot bite the dust by mob its good odds your stun will land. and does good dammage to lower hp.
happy hunting
Like I said before, a Mage is possibly the worst class to make a PK character with. Too Slow, Squishy and some of your best skills cannot be utilized if you are red.
Archers, especially an SR will be your best option.
I agree on that. I remember a lot of ppl using SR as a PK toon. You only really need an nice augmented bow and some crappy armor then u'r good to go.
Nerco Does Just fine you don't need to do any debuffing on bots. JUst Nuke the SOB. Nuke them All and with Transfer pain Nercos don't go down easy. No need to run Fast the Bot is Dead before they can get a good running start. And Bots are still cheap when it Comes to jewelry. ;)
if you think your reasons are more intelligent that the ones that brought south korean and US court to declare l2j legal, well,
Developing l2j is legal. Using l2j with some generic ut-based client and some generic l2j data pack can be legal. Using l2j with the l2 data pack with the intention to serve NCsoft's l2 clients is illegal.
Besides, l2j is just crap when it comes to the game mechanics. Have they eventually implemented Mental Shield buff as anything more than just an icon in a buffslot? :D
L2j its self is legal,
It is. However, you cannot run the server without a data pack. Guess why the data pack is not included in the l2j distribution ;)
Lets go back to post subject...
First of all you should remember that bot killer can't use some skills on unflaged bots.
Mine opinions:
1. Dagers (mine option) because:
- good dps and fast robe(support) users kill
- silent walk: easy to go to high lvl dangerous places to clean bots
- trick/switch or what ever: bot training stuff
- good run speed/UE: retreat from bot defenders
2. pure summoner because:
- sumon deals good damage
- allmost no need of equipment
- bot owners won't identify you by log
- you can buff yours summon - no need to have buffer
3. bowmens because:
- good damage per usual hit
- stun
- run speed/ue
Destroyer is not very good IMHO because, he needs to have low hp to became real killing mashine. And it is slow ... very slow and have no magic resistancies ... and very slow ....
I have chosen AW mostly because I like AW and it first profession was Assasin ;)
And I notice you can't name a Royal Guard Assassins.
I try to do that with my 2nd Royal Guard and the Game Block it.
I was scared at First because I had no 2nd Royal Guard yet it said -5k Rep Points. But thank Goodness it didn't take any at all because it was blocked.
After Talks with the Clan the name Valkyries was Chosen for the new Royal Guard. ;)
Well since i'm here i'll throw in the crazy idea of making a Warlord :P
I mean you've got 9 bots to kill, i'm thinking a few sweeps of the wrist will help you clean that place faster, besides hitting everybody at the same time will add to the confusion. And umm did i mention group stun? :)
Problem with a polearm is that all the bots would have to be flagged for you to be able to hit them (or you'd have to get them to come to a siegefield with you, which I doubt they would do :p ), or all you'll be hitting (and stunning) would be mobs, not the bots.
Because zariche and aklamanah are controled by big alliances. And normal lonelly player have allmost no chances to have zariche for hour or more. Don't talk about going to bots with cursed weapons when half of live server hunting on you.
These weapons are too overpowered to use them only on bots.
Tyrant ... ranged damage, good melee damage and rabbit if things get dicey :p
Everyone have own loved classes. I love abyss walker.
Tyrant IMHO:
can be good because:
- lot of hp
- most skills will work on target
- self buffs
- good dmg
- yeaa, rabit totem is great for escape
will be bad:
- no trick/fake death or crowd control
- remote skill .... maybe is good when you will face with similar level enemy, but not 20lvl higher.
lol, I can't believe people are still talking about this. The best PK class your going to have is an Archer class, most likely an SR. Anything below that is inferior for a variety of reasons.
Ah yes you're absolutely right....that detail slipped my mind >.<
But then again, if you do get them to flag you, its bowling night if you know what i mean :)