Discuss - Gracia Part 2 Patch Notes

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Here we go..

- PTS rates full announced! I love it! Thanks guys!
- I'm not keen on the Pailaka missing out B-grade. Again, no new content for us mid-levelers.
- An "Adventurers' Guide" NPC has been added to Hunters Village. --- Awesome! Still none in the rift though :(
- Personal Teleport??????? Oh.. no... not looking forward to this.
- While an item is being enchanted, it can no longer be dropped....... huh.. so, being red means nothing anymore.
- A bot reporting button... HERE WE GO, HERE WE GO, HERE WE GOOOO
yay for adv guide in HV, yay for bot report button, yay for paliaka., yay for kamaloka to 85.

boo that i need 3 levels to participate in anything new :p

yay for adv guide in HV, yay for bot report button, yay for paliaka., yay for kamaloka to 85.

boo that i need 3 levels to participate in anything new :p



Then get to lvling and you can +4 armor now ;)
i look forward to eaa/s prices skyrocketing.

i look forward to eaa/s prices skyrocketing.



I already did mine and I have cubics so I really don't care ;)
i wont be buying them, ashley. i'll be making and selling them.
"and you can +4 armor now"

Erm.. you could anyway? Or are you implying all armour goes to +4 safely? I'm not sure what you mean Ash.
read the patch notes purp
Yes, I know about the bonus... but not sure why Ash states "you can +4 armor". I know I can (or am able to) +4 armor....

Am I missing something else?
she probably means "you SHOULD +4 armor now"
Riiiight... here's me thinking there was a which said something like all armour can be safely +4'ed!

:cool:
Wish for it :) :)
I just wish to play.

Nothing else.
Well, I won't mind every armor piece to be safely 4'ed :)
full sets (top and bottom) can go to +4 safely - so not really sure why you would not do it.
I think it means each armour piece though.

Not sure if it includes Jewellery, but I guess we'll find out once we begin testing :)
Yeah I mean every piece helmet gloves boots jewels etc you got me :P
ohhh.. good point.. I read it as per armor part.. but could be wrong.

- While an item is being enchanted, it can no longer be dropped....... huh.. so, being red means nothing anymore.




I think that "while" refers to the progress bar and animation after you click "Enchant" on the enchant dialog. After it's been enchanted, it can be dropped again.


- While an item is being enchanted, it can no longer be dropped....... huh.. so, being red means nothing anymore.




I think that "while" refers to the progress bar and animation after you click "Enchant" on the enchant dialog. After it's been enchanted, it can be dropped again.

The item being enchanted cannot be dropped while using the scroll to enchant it.
Exactly! And please don't forget about Epics which still fall when you are red!

Exactly! And please don't forget about Epics which still fall when you are red!



Didn't NCSoft "fix" that by allowing to augument them?
can't aug epics
O.o I thought you could Augment Epics... I wouldnt know since I dont ahve any...
At least you didn't make a fool out of yourself stating that you could, without taking the time to check it up first. o.O

she probably means "you SHOULD +4 armor now"



That's what I meant. Yes you can still fail +4 just not on 1 piece they are still up to +4 safe.


Also the More you + it the Greater the Bonus.

You don't get extra hp on jewelry.

The extra HP comes from each armor that's +4 or more it's not base on armor sets.

I made +6 PL set on PTS with +6 Full Plate helmet and I got hp from each so as high as 61 hp.

You do get more HP from higher grades.

Ashley Hunter
NCSoft Intern


- While an item is being enchanted, it can no longer be dropped....... huh.. so, being red means nothing anymore.




that is a fix to an exploit ... has nothing to do with beein red. Enchanted items that are not augmented still drop if you re red
Yes, I know this now, you've missed the other replies :cool:
Why did the report bot feature take 4 years?

Anyways it's an update at least, not like we pay for them so I can't be upset at the lack of new stuff.


she probably means "you SHOULD +4 armor now"



That's what I meant. Yes you can still fail +4 just not on 1 piece they are still up to +4 safe.


Also the More you + it the Greater the Bonus.

You don't get extra hp on jewelry.

The extra HP comes from each armor that's +4 or more it's not base on armor sets.

I made +6 PL set on PTS with +6 Full Plate helmet and I got hp from each so as high as 61 hp.

You do get more HP from higher grades.

Ashley Hunter
NCSoft Intern



I guess your'e perfect for an ncsoft intern, one who talks to much, floods the boards, posts pics and promissing things of the game we play but really doesnt have a clue what happens ingame.
Amazing, please keep your flaming to yourself or to other l2 boards. Talks too much is a matter of opinion, floods the boards is the dumbest flame I've ever heard considering how inactive these boards are. Pics are great and I don't see what Ash has promised about the game seeing as she's a player. Your last comment takes the cake for the whole post though as I realize that you do believe that she is in fact an intern.

I'll make you a deal. Delete your post, and I'll delete mine. Then the world can remain ignorant as to just how smart you really are.
lolumad? these boards are flooded with L2baddies who pretend we play the same game and express their opinion against veteran players who actually know what they're doing. alot of these players who post on the lienage2 boards are ignorant and need a smack of what lineage2 really is, and not what it was 4 years ago. this game, the company, all has problems and they arent going to be fixed anytime soon, so dont mind me for shedding some real lineage2 on you scrubs. This game is dieing and I dont want to see it happen.

Weve gone from 9+ healthy servers to 4 decent servers, the population is shrinking, and while everyone on these boards thinks L2 is fine and dandy and that BOTS are they're only problem, when you really open your eyes and take a look at the player base that existed 4 years ago compared to the one we have now its saddening.

besides this patch is pathetic, nothing amazing or new since the hellbound patch (which by the way more than half of the people on these boards has never even been to and never will)

ps AND YES I REALLY THOUGH ASHLEY WAS AN L2INTERN, u dumb? seriously?
We are going a bit off topic here folks. Comon, peace and love
have you even tried the Pailaka? kratei's cube?

did you know you can do Kamaloka all the way to 85 ?

i think youre just upset that theres no imba gear to ebay, and no new place to bot safely in.

get a clue man, cosmetics are what brought people into this game, are what keep people here, and will be the majority of the next bunch of updates.

but youre right, this game has come a long way since opening day. mostly in cosmetics, as i said. it never did maintain its hardcore nature from they day it opened. every update since that time has either"balanced" "wowified" or added aesthetics to an already beautiful game.
Don't be such a sourpuss, Spud. Amazing Man is right. You all treat the endgame like it is some sort of plague. It's not. Actually, it's pretty interesting and fun: hellbound, pvp, the strategy, the fun of sieges, mass pvp for epic bosses....

Those of u who have chosen to not include that in your agenda tend to treat those of us who have with disdain. Shame on you.

For those of us who got ourselves there, it is a pretty tough challenge to accumulate all the mats for s80 and the xp/sp for skills and enchanting them. So, yeah, they've got to keep that up because it actually keeps people in the game from higher levels.

And if you think s80 gear is for aesthetics, you are wrong.

have you even tried the Pailaka? kratei's cube?

did you know you can do Kamaloka all the way to 85 ?

i think youre just upset that theres no imba gear to ebay, and no new place to bot safely in.

get a clue man, cosmetics are what brought people into this game, are what keep people here, and will be the majority of the next bunch of updates.

but youre right, this game has come a long way since opening day. mostly in cosmetics, as i said. it never did maintain its hardcore nature from they day it opened. every update since that time has either"balanced" "wowified" or added aesthetics to an already beautiful game.



i like how you immediately think just because i have a high lvl toon a decked out gear im an ebayer and a botter, just goes to say what the player base is like on these boards, extremely spiteful if you ask me, maybe ive just been playing this game for 4+ years everday for 6 or more hours, and dont want to see all this work put to waste because there are no DECENT players to fight anymore, when in reality the only thing I want are super packed servers with 3000+ people on them, is that so much to ask?
nobody is going to buy the oe'd d grade you make with the ead you get from the 7 cubics you worked so hard to get from last event. But I guess leaving your shop on 24/7 trying to sell them will be a good excuse to add to the pile why a person who has been playing since beta isn't 75 yet.

nobody is going to buy the oe'd d grade you make with the ead you get from the 7 cubics you worked so hard to get from last event. But I guess leaving your shop on 24/7 trying to sell them will be a good excuse to add to the pile why a person who has been playing since beta isn't 75 yet.

amazing man admitted to having played every day for 6hrs or more for 4 years.

i admit to playing 4 hrs a week for 4 years.

why do you care what level i am? i dont!

and i only have 3 cubics.


why do you care what level i am? i dont!



Why do I care? Because you talk about game mechanics that are core features for many players but you don't have the slightest clue about them. That's problematic when the only voice ncsoft bothers to pander to is the one on these forums.

Why don't you care? Oh I think you do, you are jealous of people above your level, so much to the point that you lash out at them irrationally every chance you get on these forums. You called Awesome a botter in this thread, and implied I should continue botting in another. That aside, if you didn't care about your level, why would you make such a big deal about it in your signature?

That's problematic when the only voice ncsoft bothers to pander to is the one on these forums.



And why should they wade through the flame-fest that all the "cool" kids go to? This forum, being the OFFICIAL one, is the one that says "Here is where we pay attention."

Do you know how many forums there are for Lineage 2 out there? Can YOU say that you have the time every day to read them all?

Because if you do, I am also gonna start wondering how you get your high levels.
As someone wrote, maybe it would be better to have ingame forum ;)
Consider this one as "ingame". At least it's much more stable than the community server :p
Yet another bot-boost :


The weight of common items has been reduced by 2/3.



no more overweight-bots running SLOW .. making it possible to outrun them in mob-hunt.

what will happen in next uppdate ... common items going to be stackable?
You didn't think it would be better for real players too? Some people are using few weapons, actually. It helps them too.

You didn't think it would be better for real players too? Some people are using few weapons, actually. It helps them too.



Play a Dwarf if you like to have multiple weapon/armour sets with you all the time. And stop de-valuing the few skills we Dwarves have to ourselves with idiotic decisions like that. Thanks.

You didn't think it would be better for real players too? Some people are using few weapons, actually. It helps them too.



so why only lower weight of common ... and not normal.

since normal aint dropping anymore ... no benefits for the bots .. to change the weight of those ... and ...surprise.. it hasn't been changed


You didn't think it would be better for real players too? Some people are using few weapons, actually. It helps them too.



so why only lower weight of common ... and not normal.

since normal aint dropping anymore ... no benefits for the bots .. to change the weight of those ... and ...surprise.. it hasn't been changed


Err... you're looking for logic from NCsoft? You must be tired. :D

so why only lower weight of common ... and not normal.
since normal aint dropping anymore ... no benefits for the bots .. to change the weight of those


There would indeed be benefits for the bots to reduce the weights of normal items. At least for those bots that carry shots.

Err... you're looking for logic from NCsoft? You must be tired. :D


Well, well, the effect of SA: Light has been recently increased :D



why do you care what level i am? i dont!



Why do I care? Because you talk about game mechanics that are core features for many players but you don't have the slightest clue about them. That's problematic when the only voice ncsoft bothers to pander to is the one on these forums.

Why don't you care? Oh I think you do, you are jealous of people above your level, so much to the point that you lash out at them irrationally every chance you get on these forums. You called Awesome a botter in this thread, and implied I should continue botting in another. That aside, if you didn't care about your level, why would you make such a big deal about it in your signature?



if you dont like what i have to say you can /block me.

"bot more" and such other replies are standard in the L2 community. for everyone. heros use it against LOWER LEVEL opponents that they beat. your argument that my level causes me to be jealous is illogical. i'll call whomever i wish a bot. legit or no.



why do you care what level i am? i dont!



Why do I care? Because you talk about game mechanics that are core features for many players but you don't have the slightest clue about them. That's problematic when the only voice ncsoft bothers to pander to is the one on these forums.




I'll have to enlighten you a bit about spudnik. That guy got reading comprehension,mkay? And with reading comprehension even a lvl 10 char can tell a lvl 85 char how to play the game, you see? Because all high lvl players are stupid botters, ebayers and don't have a clue about the game.
Futhermore he generally knows everything best, even if he never had any contact with the matter being discussed. But hey, that doesn't matter! Because he got reading comprehension! And with reading comprehension a lvl 10 char can tell a lvl 85 char how to play!!!





Nah seriously, he's just a jerk. Ignore him. Personally I was dumb enough to waste time on him, don't do the same :p






And about the common item's weight: I don't really see how that boosts bots. Do you seriously think a bot owner (player bot, not farmer) gives a **** about some crappy common items? If they jam his inventory he'll just leave them on the ground or destroy them, it's not as if that small amount of money mattered in any way compared to what he earns in terms of lvls, quest rewards and pure adena drops (if he hunts w/o SS). So that change will only boost bots very very very slightly while it also helps normal players (I usually hunt full stacked out at ~50% weight on my EE or with w/e percentage I can carry with drac, so an early common item drop always messes up my weight limit^^)




edit: Don't bother to reply btw hun *** You are ignoring this user *** <3
Since a BH can crystalize now, it would be smart for bots to crush them right when they drop. Crystals have a weight of 0 :)




why do you care what level i am? i dont!



Why do I care? Because you talk about game mechanics that are core features for many players but you don't have the slightest clue about them. That's problematic when the only voice ncsoft bothers to pander to is the one on these forums.

Why don't you care? Oh I think you do, you are jealous of people above your level, so much to the point that you lash out at them irrationally every chance you get on these forums. You called Awesome a botter in this thread, and implied I should continue botting in another. That aside, if you didn't care about your level, why would you make such a big deal about it in your signature?



if you dont like what i have to say you can /block me.

"bot more" and such other replies are standard in the L2 community. for everyone. heros use it against LOWER LEVEL opponents that they beat. your argument that my level causes me to be jealous is illogical. i'll call whomever i wish a bot. legit or no.




No one really cares what u say next subject.
Talking about reading comprehension, I am not lvl 73 either, but I have a question: what happens in the "Pailaka - Injured Dragon" quest if somebody is allied with the Varka Silenos? Does he or she have to sneak into the Ketra camp on stealth to speak with the Shaman and then can move freely among the Varka?
The whole quest hinges on the Fire Dragon being trapped inside the barracks of those watery sheep. There should be an alternative one with an injured Water Dragon in the Ketra camp.
No one any idea? Siren, could you please check back with Seoul?
dont worry, you dont lose the quest, because you are not actually killing varka but pailaka mobs ;)
So...vit herbs... any ideas on how much vitality they actualy restore?
If Siren's description is correct, you will gain back vitality at the same rate and in teh same way you lost it - based on the xp gained by fighting mobs. Instead of decreasing vitality, normal xp would increase it by the same amount.

Talking about reading comprehension, I am not lvl 73 either, but I have a question: what happens in the "Pailaka - Injured Dragon" quest if somebody is allied with the Varka Silenos? Does he or she have to sneak into the Ketra camp on stealth to speak with the Shaman and then can move freely among the Varka?
The whole quest hinges on the Fire Dragon being trapped inside the barracks of those watery sheep. There should be an alternative one with an injured Water Dragon in the Ketra camp.



I'm having QA check this out. I'll post again once I get an answer.


Talking about reading comprehension, I am not lvl 73 either, but I have a question: what happens in the "Pailaka - Injured Dragon" quest if somebody is allied with the Varka Silenos? Does he or she have to sneak into the Ketra camp on stealth to speak with the Shaman and then can move freely among the Varka?
The whole quest hinges on the Fire Dragon being trapped inside the barracks of those watery sheep. There should be an alternative one with an injured Water Dragon in the Ketra camp.



I'm having QA check this out. I'll post again once I get an answer.



From what I understand you don't go really to the camp but what appears like it only on a different level so I doubt it will effect the alliance.

But I will wait for Siren Feed back before I'm 100% sure. ;)




Ashley Hunter
NCSoft Intern
Ashley has the right of it.

QA just confirmed that when you go to speak to the quest giver (the Ketra Orc Shaman outside of Goddard), he actually tells you in his dialogue "This quest takes place in Pailaka. It does not affect the Varkas Silenos alliance quest or the Ketra Orc alliance quest."
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply!

There is still hope left for this company!