SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE!!

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ok now i know this is gonna sound like alot of crying but hear me out in the past month everything on luna server has doubled in price a blue 12 costs 400mil a IC breast plate costs 900mil a stage 13 costs 700mil and a grade shots are currently sitting at 380a and s grade shots are sitting at 1500a per how can NC expect anyone to NOT buy adena with these prices and dont tell me to "play the market" cuz that isnt happening nc please do something open transfer and help the economy stabilize, i mean 600mil for a tallum set is outrageous PLEASE this economy is waaaaaay out of wack and needs to be brought down not like the mobs are gonna stop off in giran and be like oh wow 400mil for a stage 12 looks like i better up my drop rate on adena from 1500a to 15000a please how bout u guys do what we as a community pay you for and actually fix this. enough is enough with the no responses to threads. we are crying out for a lil fricken help how bout for once u throw us a friggin bone!!

/rant off
well soul crystals are not a big deal just go out and level them on the raid bosses ^^ lvl 13 is easy as its an instance boss others not so much i guess but if you rig the festivals you can swipe anakim for a week from major clans if your sneaky enough like we just did on Devianne. ;)
im talking about the everyday joe not a major alliance
but i mean tell me that those prices arent wrong if u dont believe me make a lvl 1 toon and look around
Player driven economies are funny like that.

Gotta be smart if you want to "play the market." Gotta be one step ahead of it. You sound like you're several steps behind it.

Everyday joe can play another game. Rewards to the elitist! Here here!
ya no way to play the market without start up $ so how bouts u make a lvl 1 toon and come teach me how without getting frusterated yourself

s grade shots are sitting at 1500a per


**** i can't even break even at 350 ea
i suggest you make a lvl 70 ws and farm catas for AA ><
Idiot people pay idiot prices. Blame the morons of the community, not the game.

ya no way to play the market without start up $ so how bouts u make a lvl 1 toon and come teach me how without getting frusterated yourself



Sorry to disappoint, but I started fresh on Devianne the day Gracia went live and have 1.5b already.

There's nothing to teach. You're either the kind of person that takes the time to find ways to make money or you're not. I was expecting a really rough road but figured common items would get me to 76. Then I realized that veteran players must be sitting on vast sums of money and that I could exploit that.

Let me get you started: adena and time are interchangeable. Players will pay adena to save time.
One more tip: A 50m item priced at 75m will never sell. However, players don't seem concerned with overpaying that same percentage on smaller amounts. Hint hint.

In all seriousness, it is my opinion that if you are crying about the market and asking for the secrets to be taught to you, you don't have what it takes to make it on your own.
[censored]! Those prices are BIG! Man.. I pay for lvl 13 blue 120mil !!!! And the whole "S" set goes for 1bil TOPS... [censored].. LUna Rocks!!!!!!!!

[censored]! Those prices are BIG! Man.. I pay for lvl 13 blue 120mil !!!! And the whole "S" set goes for 1bil TOPS... [censored].. LUna Rocks!!!!!!!!



Yeah, their *cough*ots and player base is still up to the challenge *whistle*.
I hear AA:A rate is something sick like 15:1 at times. If you want to capitalise/make money go and 'live' in the catacombs and then undercut everyone else selling. Even at 9:1 that's pretty awesome profit.
Also, basic mats seem to be a real problem. It seems no one wants to manor. SoP is the only real issue I can see, if you don't like playing a spoiler. If you do this (with low level toons, since the kill rate is lower and the costs are cheaper) you will be rich pretty fast.
It's not a perfect solution but there you have it. Exploit the system while it's there, and make a bundle of cash. When (if ever) it gets settled, you will be better off. If you say you don't want to do any of this... Well it's really your own fault...
i tried the whole cata thing but problem is i get forced out of rooms by lvl 80 players
as for the guy who said he started a toon on dev go to [censored] and compare prices

and s grade shots are sitting at 1500a per how can NC expect anyone to NOT buy adena with these prices


Maybe NC expects players to be smart and make 50% profit by making their own SSS and sell to idiots.

I just found this information on the web plus I made some basic calculations. Not too difficult, is it?
once again idiot cost of 1 s grade crystal (259k) not to mention the lvl needed to make the flippin shots or the recipie to craft the sss so before u open your mouth and let the moronic filth flow out please think this isnt meant for ppl to come and say well this is how u do it [censored] [censored] [censored] make a toon and survive on luna if not [censored] and leave this thread alone !

In all seriousness, it is my opinion that if you are crying about the market and asking for the secrets to be taught to you, you don't have what it takes to make it on your own.


And... he or she just proved it :p

once again idiot cost of 1 s grade crystal (259k) not to mention the lvl needed to make the flippin shots or the recipie to craft the sss so before u open your mouth and let the moronic filth flow out please think this isnt meant for ppl to come and say well this is how u do it [censored] [censored] [censored] make a toon and survive on luna if not [censored] and leave this thread alone !



The market is player driven, end of story. You have no one to blame, or be upset with other than your servers community if you don't like prices. People getting ****** at NcSoft accomplishes nothing.
There are always ways around a crazy market. Even at highest tax rates, you can craft things yourself and resell them at a reasonable markup. Crazy high/low prices are just how a market works...but if you do a little research and planning, you can make it work in your favor...through mammon, crushing items, etc.

*PS-- if you're just going to flame at everyone that comes in here with suggestions to help you, then don't open a thread like this. NCsoft can't do anything about it, it's just how a market works. They've done what they can for now with more items being available from NPC stores, and base prices from NPC stores as a whole being lower than before.

Flaming won't get you anywhere...and no one will want to help you. Not players, not NCsoft.
its not that u can craft or any of that stuff what it boils down to is you cant survive on your main and you cannot expect everyone to roll a dwarf and be running around spoiling.
i appreciate the words of advice i really do but take a min to compare prices even make a lvl 1 toon and go to giran its free and look at prices you cannot lvl with these prices.
i know its player driven i understand that but then tell me why luna the newest server has sooo much **** adena that the prices are inflated to 2x to 3x that of the older servers?
thats all i want to know is why and what can be done is there a bug or sumtin that has these ppl with billions upon billions of adena? the drop rates arent any higher then other servers and we been around 3 1/2 years less so please explain that

and you cannot expect everyone to roll a dwarf and be running around spoiling.


Why not?


i know its player driven i understand that but then tell me why luna the newest server has sooo much **** adena that the prices are inflated to 2x to 3x that of the older servers?


Ah, that's easy. Luna has the highest percentage of cheaters. Which means the highest anount of bots per a live player. Live players remove adena from the game through using adena sinks (but don't remove adena from the game just when buying stuff from traders), bots don't use adena sinks and just generate more and more adena causing inflation.

ok now i know this is gonna sound like alot of crying but hear me out in the past month everything on luna server has doubled in price a blue 12 costs 400mil a IC breast plate costs 900mil a stage 13 costs 700mil and a grade shots are currently sitting at 380a and s grade shots are sitting at 1500a per how can NC expect anyone to NOT buy adena with these prices and dont tell me to "play the market" cuz that isnt happening nc please do something open transfer and help the economy stabilize, i mean 600mil for a tallum set is outrageous PLEASE this economy is waaaaaay out of wack and needs to be brought down not like the mobs are gonna stop off in giran and be like oh wow 400mil for a stage 12 looks like i better up my drop rate on adena from 1500a to 15000a please how bout u guys do what we as a community pay you for and actually fix this. enough is enough with the no responses to threads. we are crying out for a lil fricken help how bout for once u throw us a friggin bone!!

/rant off



prices went up due to the adena duplication program that the russians made that nobody did anything about. Thats why adena is worth so little in dollars, therefor prices go up in game. Its not rocket science.

and you cannot expect everyone to roll a dwarf and be running around spoiling.


i do expect ppl to make friends with dorfs who will later help them but maybe i expect too much
If you want to meet your expectations Nanashi, just expect them to keep whinning and wondering why god hates them.
thats the whole point. no one wants to be expected to play a dorf. either crafter or spoiler. Everyone wants to play the hero toon and meanwhile expect from others to do the field work.

Wakeup call! There are hardly any material farmers in Luna.
Majority of the ppl are rushing (legit or not) towards 78+ noble status and not caring for the market. So don't expect any help from there. If you want to make money go spoil base materials and sell them... I mean Iron 5K each, SoP 35K each, O.Ore 85K each and so on. You can make a fortune out of it.
thnx for the tip i have 6k iron in bank

thats the whole point. no one wants to be expected to play a dorf. either crafter or spoiler. Everyone wants to play the hero toon and meanwhile expect from others to do the field work.

Wakeup call! There are hardly any material farmers in Luna.
Majority of the ppl are rushing (legit or not) towards 78+ noble status and not caring for the market. So don't expect any help from there. If you want to make money go spoil base materials and sell them... I mean Iron 5K each, SoP 35K each, O.Ore 85K each and so on. You can make a fortune out of it.

Would be a fortune on other servers, maybe, but when everything it f'd up like it is now it's not really a lot of money.
Duckie, i can't believe there r people on here acting as if 400mil for a stage12 crystal is ok. And there is no way to get what u need in an economy such as that unless u go the route they r obviouly going.. Super Bots that play all night making them adena while they sleep. I have toons that stay broke, and i play regularly. So please, teach me how to make 1.5b since Garcia without waking up with my accounts banned

Player driven economies are funny like that.

Gotta be smart if you want to "play the market." Gotta be one step ahead of it. You sound like you're several steps behind it.



I really dislike people like yourself. Not everyone can play the market. Not everyone can make a shop on their main account or secondary account and have it sit there 15 hours a day. Some people want to play the game, or dont want to leave the game for that long. The only reason anyone can make money by playing the market is that it is a niche way to make money. If 1/10 of the people who claimed to play the market really played the market, they wouldn't have any money of they said they had because "playing the market" doesn't work when a whole bunch of people do it. When that happens, it becomes the -norm-, so stop advocating that economic fallacy.

We don't have a player driven economy. We have a cheater driven economy. Prices are purposefully artificially high on the more populous servers. This is a failure not on the players part but on both the game devs and those who maintain the game by not nipping the problem in the bud before it grew out of hand.

Congratulations, you have 1.5b on a dead server. That doesn't do the op any good, nor should you be proud of it. I have 5b on my server and I don't even play anymore.

Like the op angrily said, you need money to "play the market". You need large amounts to make it worth your wild also. There are very few ways left for a legit player to make money at the lower level (ie 76 and lower). No, everyone shouldn't be forced t o make a dwarf to make money for their main character. Alt characters are NEVER an acceptable way to make money in an online game. That is POOR game design. It's a horrible time sink and shame on you for suggesting it.

Those advocating aa farming are giving good advice if we were playing 2 years ago but farmer enforcers really make that difficult for the average joe.
There really is only 1 way left to make good money while playing the game and that is attribute stone farming. If you aren't high enough level to do this yet, then I'm afraid you are very limited in what you can effectively do to get the money you need.

You can cheat, you can quit or suck it up and grind until you are high enough to farm the end game materials that people need (attribute stones, ori, leonards).
There are no quick and easy ways to make money in this game legitly. Nothing in this game comes easily except cheating. There was a time when you could count on an event to help ease the burden but those days are long gone.
thank you somone finally sees my point and no im not high enough to farm attribute stones.any other ideas let me know

There was a time when you could count on an event to help ease the burden but those days are long gone.



And enter another useless event (fiscally not leveling). I remember the fun events this ones has a fun stick that gets to go away after 1 month :P... 5 vitality recharges are nice but nothing that helps me get the gear i need after i level fast. Best event they had imo was the one were massed crafting materials dropped 2000 animal skins, 1000 coal, 500 ori ore.. etc.

I really dislike people like yourself. Not everyone can play the market. Not everyone can make a shop on their main account or secondary account and have it sit there 15 hours a day. Some people want to play the game, or dont want to leave the game for that long.



This is ridiculous. Which is it? They don't want to run the game while they aren't playing or are there people out there who have 15 hours a day to devote to playing Lineage 2? Either way, whether you approve of shops or not, it's how l2 works. If you had an auction house, the only difference is you wouldn't need your client running. Obviously, you can't play your main and trade in giran at the same time, so pick.


The only reason anyone can make money by playing the market is that it is a niche way to make money. If 1/10 of the people who claimed to play the market really played the market, they wouldn't have any money of they said they had because "playing the market" doesn't work when a whole bunch of people do it. When that happens, it becomes the -norm-, so stop advocating that economic fallacy.




No it doesn't become the norm. Playing the market can represent any way to use a need in the market to your advantage. For example, buying CBP,Varn and SOP and then crafing VoP for a 30k profit. There are 5 shops doing that right now but that doesn't mean they aren't making money because there is competition. I haven't used the same method to make money two weeks straight since Gracia came out. If you're not bright enough to adapt, don't throw it off as "I had a good idea but people copied it so now I'm stuck." That's where the one step ahead comment comes from. Always have your next economic plan ready.


We don't have a player driven economy. We have a cheater driven economy. Prices are purposefully artificially high on the more populous servers. This is a failure not on the players part but on both the game devs and those who maintain the game by not nipping the problem in the bud before it grew out of hand.




We have a cheater driven game, let alone economy.


Congratulations, you have 1.5b on a dead server. That doesn't do the op any good, nor should you be proud of it. I have 5b on my server and I don't even play anymore.



You're such an idiot. My example is a clear cut demonstration of starting with nothing and then being able to afford your S grade long before 76. Devianne is a lower pop server, but we're talking about the market and last I checked, giran has hundreds of shops. So calling it a "dead server" doesn't give validity to anything you say. If anything, it is harder for me to find what I need and I have less potential buyers. I don't understand the relevance of telling us you have 5b on your inactive account and then turning around to tell me the op doesn't care how much I have. I am demonstrating that you can make that much starting with nothing in little time. You are demonstrating that you're an idiot.


Like the op angrily said, you need money to "play the market". You need large amounts to make it worth your wild also. There are very few ways left for a legit player to make money at the lower level (ie 76 and lower). No, everyone shouldn't be forced t o make a dwarf to make money for their main character. Alt characters are NEVER an acceptable way to make money in an online game. That is POOR game design. It's a horrible time sink and shame on you for suggesting it.




That's worth your "while", not wild. No one is forced to do anything. It just so happens that all the trading is done in one city and that travelling to it is more expensive than having a character permanently stationed there. Alt characters are a great way to make money because they are always in the city, aren't related to your main, and easily replaced. You don't need to keep a bad rep or give friends discounts. Most of all, you don't limit your market by having players from enemy clans not buy your stuff.


Those advocating aa farming are giving good advice if we were playing 2 years ago but farmer enforcers really make that difficult for the average joe.
There really is only 1 way left to make good money while playing the game and that is attribute stone farming. If you aren't high enough level to do this yet, then I'm afraid you are very limited in what you can effectively do to get the money you need.



I didn't really get a good feel for your post until I started replying and then got to the paragraph above and realized what was going on. You are full of excuses. Between blaming "bad game design", "cheaters" and then "high level mat grinding" I can safely conclude that you just don't get it. What's worse is that people might read your post and naively believe that it's true. Queue begging for gear from clanmates and disappointment with the game.

You need money to make money, sure. If I'm investing 100m and getting 200m back, thats more interesting than investing 1m and getting 2m back. But you need to grow to that point. Anybody can find an easy way to make money once they have money. The hard part is getting there.

Take your self defeating attitude elsewhere. I meet players with your mindset all the time. I politely volunteer to give them some tips only to find them crying about this one thing or another. I've only met one player thus far that took my advice and is now making the kind of money I'm talking about. The rest all gave up after one day (if that), quit or turned to gold sellers.

You don't understand what playing the market means. You refuse to acknowledge the possibility that you can make money at low levels (Hello Manor and Kamaloka enchant scrolls!). You fail at money making 101.


I really dislike people like yourself. Not everyone can play the market. Not everyone can make a shop on their main account or secondary account and have it sit there 15 hours a day. Some people want to play the game, or dont want to leave the game for that long.



This is ridiculous. Which is it? They don't want to run the game while they aren't playing or are there people out there who have 15 hours a day to devote to playing Lineage 2? Either way, whether you approve of shops or not, it's how l2 works. If you had an auction house, the only difference is you wouldn't need your client running. Obviously, you can't play your main and trade in giran at the same time, so pick.


The only reason anyone can make money by playing the market is that it is a niche way to make money. If 1/10 of the people who claimed to play the market really played the market, they wouldn't have any money of they said they had because "playing the market" doesn't work when a whole bunch of people do it. When that happens, it becomes the -norm-, so stop advocating that economic fallacy.




No it doesn't become the norm. Playing the market can represent any way to use a need in the market to your advantage. For example, buying CBP,Varn and SOP and then crafing VoP for a 30k profit. There are 5 shops doing that right now but that doesn't mean they aren't making money because there is competition. I haven't used the same method to make money two weeks straight since Gracia came out. If you're not bright enough to adapt, don't throw it off as "I had a good idea but people copied it so now I'm stuck." That's where the one step ahead comment comes from. Always have your next economic plan ready.


We don't have a player driven economy. We have a cheater driven economy. Prices are purposefully artificially high on the more populous servers. This is a failure not on the players part but on both the game devs and those who maintain the game by not nipping the problem in the bud before it grew out of hand.




We have a cheater driven game, let alone economy.


Congratulations, you have 1.5b on a dead server. That doesn't do the op any good, nor should you be proud of it. I have 5b on my server and I don't even play anymore.



You're such an idiot. My example is a clear cut demonstration of starting with nothing and then being able to afford your S grade long before 76. Devianne is a lower pop server, but we're talking about the market and last I checked, giran has hundreds of shops. So calling it a "dead server" doesn't give validity to anything you say. If anything, it is harder for me to find what I need and I have less potential buyers. I don't understand the relevance of telling us you have 5b on your inactive account and then turning around to tell me the op doesn't care how much I have. I am demonstrating that you can make that much starting with nothing in little time. You are demonstrating that you're an idiot.


Like the op angrily said, you need money to "play the market". You need large amounts to make it worth your wild also. There are very few ways left for a legit player to make money at the lower level (ie 76 and lower). No, everyone shouldn't be forced t o make a dwarf to make money for their main character. Alt characters are NEVER an acceptable way to make money in an online game. That is POOR game design. It's a horrible time sink and shame on you for suggesting it.




That's worth your "while", not wild. No one is forced to do anything. It just so happens that all the trading is done in one city and that travelling to it is more expensive than having a character permanently stationed there. Alt characters are a great way to make money because they are always in the city, aren't related to your main, and easily replaced. You don't need to keep a bad rep or give friends discounts. Most of all, you don't limit your market by having players from enemy clans not buy your stuff.


Those advocating aa farming are giving good advice if we were playing 2 years ago but farmer enforcers really make that difficult for the average joe.
There really is only 1 way left to make good money while playing the game and that is attribute stone farming. If you aren't high enough level to do this yet, then I'm afraid you are very limited in what you can effectively do to get the money you need.



I didn't really get a good feel for your post until I started replying and then got to the paragraph above and realized what was going on. You are full of excuses. Between blaming "bad game design", "cheaters" and then "high level mat grinding" I can safely conclude that you just don't get it. What's worse is that people might read your post and naively believe that it's true. Queue begging for gear from clanmates and disappointment with the game.

You need money to make money, sure. If I'm investing 100m and getting 200m back, thats more interesting than investing 1m and getting 2m back. But you need to grow to that point. Anybody can find an easy way to make money once they have money. The hard part is getting there.

Take your self defeating attitude elsewhere. I meet players with your mindset all the time. I politely volunteer to give them some tips only to find them crying about this one thing or another. I've only met one player thus far that took my advice and is now making the kind of money I'm talking about. The rest all gave up after one day (if that), quit or turned to gold sellers.

You don't understand what playing the market means. You refuse to acknowledge the possibility that you can make money at low levels (Hello Manor and Kamaloka enchant scrolls!). You fail at money making 101.



you mean to say that you can raise 1.5b adena just by yourself?...... how stupid do you think some people are?

go tell this to the idiots that fight without SS becasue they think they save money.

when you get OE weapons from your clan to help you level and get a good weapon just for you from clan ....you are not called a good player ...you are called a clan's [censored].

yes it's very hard for new people who have only an account to make money for their equipment. It's not imposible but very hard .... so stop with the I raised 1.5 bilion adena just by playing the market. You raised 1.5b adena, if you have, with help from your high level clan mates that spared you some scraps they don't realy need.
Log on to Devianne and ask my clan what they have given me. I can barely get a group, let alone donations.

You guys are disappointing. What I have done, I have done alone. No clan intervention, no donations, no free stuff, no money on the ground, nothing. I'd offer you to pm me so I can privately tell you how I did do it and how I moved from manor and mats to crafting and then other things, but you're the last people I want to help in any way (hence why I haven't published my market guide sitting on my desktop).

I wash my hands of this thread. Cry your eyes dry at your misfortune and call me a liar for taking the time to find ways to make money. It's a shame that's the mindset you want to excercise in a virtual world. I can only imagine what it must be like to look at all the succesful people in the world and think that they just got hand me downs or some other nonsense. You're not making excuses about my success. You're making excuses about your failure.
I can't believe that someone can make 1.5kkk adena just by "playing the market" ..... maybe it's posible ......but I can't believe it. I play o couple of hours per day and in the evenning I get my reward if I am quick on the click. :)
Ok I didn't make 1.5 billion but I did make 750 million in a few short weeks all by myself wih no outside gifts. Sure some of is was a drop but I was in party and the drop came my way. But the rest was me in walking around giran collecting what I needed to resell. So it can be done.
You just have to have the will power to go thru with your plan and not expect to get mad adenas overnight.

I can't believe that someone can make 1.5kkk adena just by "playing the market" ..... maybe it's posible ......but I can't believe it. I play o couple of hours per day and in the evenning I get my reward if I am quick on the click. :)



Well it's true man... the game is like a real life: some ppl DO win lottery or get a good job and find "the flood of money' coming into their lives... Some say it's luck, some call it "play the market" but you know...the fact that l2 IS a game means there ARE exploits (and I don't mean smth. bad) but it means that the game is not PERFECT so you can earn money by many different means. i.e. I found a way. And I won't tell you, but I get 500-700mil per weak MINIMUM. No clans...not a hero etc. etc....

Having said that, I mean anything is possilbe in l2.
Peace!
it depends on how much you play ...If I seed for all the fruit I want ...I make a lot of money too ...but I can't play as much as the hardcore players ..... so at the rate I'm playing 70 mil per week, somtimes less, it's ok (maybe because I'm A grade and preocupied more of leveling than making money)
I think the issue is a combination of both spectrum's. First it's very hard for someone to make AS MUCH money as is needed for their equipment of any grade. I think that it's very telling when common gear prices are as low as they are as appose to the market prices of such regular type gear. It's not hard to tell what/who is forcing the outrageous prices. I mean, let's face it; whats the % of people on any server with over 200kk as appose to those sitting with billions? If only we had a way of disclosing all of our transactions then we could finally tell who's legit and who's not but until then the rich WILL always look the foremost guilty of shady practices.
some games have a distinct price range allowed for each item that is figured by ingame worth of the item and there is a min and max money amount for each item whereas the range cannot be exceeded or deceeded.


ok now i know this is gonna sound like alot of crying but hear me out in the past month everything on luna server has doubled in price a blue 12 costs 400mil a IC breast plate costs 900mil a stage 13 costs 700mil and a grade shots are currently sitting at 380a and s grade shots are sitting at 1500a per how can NC expect anyone to NOT buy adena with these prices and dont tell me to "play the market" cuz that isnt happening nc please do something open transfer and help the economy stabilize, i mean 600mil for a tallum set is outrageous PLEASE this economy is waaaaaay out of wack and needs to be brought down not like the mobs are gonna stop off in giran and be like oh wow 400mil for a stage 12 looks like i better up my drop rate on adena from 1500a to 15000a please how bout u guys do what we as a community pay you for and actually fix this. enough is enough with the no responses to threads. we are crying out for a lil fricken help how bout for once u throw us a friggin bone!!

/rant off



prices went up due to the adena duplication program that the russians made that nobody did anything about. Thats why adena is worth so little in dollars, therefor prices go up in game. Its not rocket science.



Your an idiot if you think that.

Ok I didn't make 1.5 billion but I did make 750 million in a few short weeks all by myself wih no outside gifts. Sure some of is was a drop but I was in party and the drop came my way. But the rest was me in walking around giran collecting what I needed to resell. So it can be done.
You just have to have the will power to go thru with your plan and not expect to get mad adenas overnight.



A few short weeks... oh how this game has ruined your perception of time. You could of bought adena cheaper then the cost it took to keep your computer going running a shop... Either way, 750m won't put you in any useful s grade... unless you are aiming for +0 tateossian jewels and a weapon with no element, enchants, augments or sa.
Even if you're being smart, and play the market like a god, you're gonna end up full of adena, but nothing worth to buy with it. Because of adena duplicating bug, all more or less expensive items are being sold for real money. Adena is worth nothing nowadays, its like a dirt on the ground, and NCsoft arent doing anything about fixing this adena bug. So prices on adena farming websites continue to fall, and soon gonna hit the floor, then we will see natural market: I give you 500 SoP, you give me 250 Ori Ore, NO adena plx!!

some games have a distinct price range allowed for each item that is figured by ingame worth of the item and there is a min and max money amount for each item whereas the range cannot be exceeded or deceeded.



Now that's what I'm talkin about.
A fixed max price will inflate prices very fast.

Server prices differ massively.

Not going to work at all..