Saving Santa Event

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Ir seems pretty new and cool event is comming :P Can't w8 to see it.:) Hope Santa will reward us with vitality lolipops!
As long as we don't get the silly Xmas trees again, Or rather have to collect X amount of X pieces so we can trade them into a tree.

I still have 7 of the special trees from the last event, and the silly Santa hats both with and without antlers.
huh? Are u just assuming? I don't see any announcement...
Santa's Helpers throughout Aden and Elmore are begging for your assistance. It seems that Santa Claus has been imprisoned by the jealous and fanatical Thomas D. Turkey. Outraged by the treatment that he and his brethren have endured over the centuries, Thomas is holding Santa hostage in an undisclosed location to show the world that turkeys mean business. It is up to the citizens of this fair land to help free Santa. The fate of this and all future holidays depend on you. You must find Thomas and defeat him in a "turkey style" battle. Only then will Santa be free from turkey tyranny. Help Santa's Helpers. Help Santa. And help save the holidays for us all.

Coming to a server near you in December!

NCSoft seems to have no shortage of mind-altering substances :-)
sounds like maybe something on Fantasy Island... I mean up until now. .the place is kinda a waste of space.
Well, that solves the mystery. I stopped receiving the newsletters about 2 years ago and have never been able to figure out why....
well, we will see
When did you get this newsletter?

I still get the newsletter but have not gotten this one yet.
Same here. I have gotten the news letter since this game started and it still is not here.

:(
As long as we don't get the silly Xmas trees again, Or rather have to collect X amount of X pieces so we can trade them into a tree.

I still have 7 of the special trees from the last event, and the silly Santa hats both with and without antlers.


Until NcSoft said you can't put XMas trees on Castle seige field, those were awsome to help regen peeps.

I happen to like my santa hat and my 2nd hat. I don't understand where they get off controlling when I can wear it, but then I didn't understand why we lost the halloween transformation either. These types of things allows one to show they have been around a long time and not some startup....

imho
Pff you don't see any other MMORPG giving you something and then saying you cant wear this for 11 months outta the year, or we will take this away after a select amount of time.... gimmie my Santa hat year round! I'm sure NC Korea doesn't need to be asked about a hat... don't be lazy :P

as for the event sounds interesting... but where did the turkey come from since we have never seen a turkey in game perhaps a raving mad pumpkin or squash would a been better ;)
Is it just me or do the images not actually load?

I can see the images.
like to story hehe.
Pff you don't see any other MMORPG giving you something and then saying you cant wear this for 11 months outta the year, or we will take this away after a select amount of time.... gimmie my Santa hat year round! I'm sure NC Korea doesn't need to be asked about a hat... don't be lazy :P

as for the event sounds interesting... but where did the turkey come from since we have never seen a turkey in game perhaps a raving mad pumpkin or squash would a been better ;)

Space turkeys invasion in l2 :s The evil dusk moon decided make a revenge.
Sounds like a solid event. I stil haven't received the newsletter though ><

They are really on the ball as far as how fast they are pumping these babies out, I wonder how long that will last.
I still have 7 of the special trees from the last event, and the silly Santa hats both with and without antlers.

LOL and I was sitting here thinking I can't wait to wear my Santa hats. Silly I know, but I like those goofy hats!
well i still have my pumpking transformation item hehe :P

+ i think we will get the snowman transformation item like we did for hallowen(pumpkin ghost transformation item).+ lollipops+ there will be sweet event again :P

gotta lvl my char from 10 to 20 for lollipops
Lollipops!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need more LOLLIPOPS! Or maybe Candy Canes or Cookies.

Thank you
When did you get this newsletter?

I still get the newsletter but have not gotten this one yet.

I get it every time and on time.
Nukus thats the most awsome thing ever! lmao
I got this in the e-snail.

http://www.lineage2.com/newsletter/0812/index.html

Is it just me or do the images not actually load?

I was able to see the newsletter just fine so it might just be you.

What are you using for email? Do you have html email or a setting set to filtered out images for certain messages?
Doesn't matter. I was talking about the images on the website, not my e-mail.
Well, that solves the mystery. I stopped receiving the newsletters about 2 years ago and have never been able to figure out why....

I think it is a setting on your account...

If you go into "update contact information" there is a check box at the bottom of the page that says "Want to stay ahead of the game? Sign up here to receive the PlayNC newsletter, beta announcements, game trials and other exclusive offers - delivered straight to your inbox."

Also make sure that your email is up to date :)
Doesn't matter. I was talking about the images on the website, not my e-mail.

gotcha...I misunderstood. No idea why you can't see them on the web.
Lollipops!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need more LOLLIPOPS! Or maybe Candy Canes or Cookies.

Thank you


Im up for Cookies :D
30 people at once? That place will be packed.
Talk about a complex event, LOL?
There are three conditions that must be met in order to be visited by Santa:

You must be actively engaged in combat.
You cannot be in a party.
You cannot be in a peace zone.

...gj
I want a +10 A grade wep ;O
...gj


Yea I don't get the "you can not be in a party" part but oh well.
I think it is a setting on your account...

If you go into "update contact information" there is a check box at the bottom of the page that says "Want to stay ahead of the game? Sign up here to receive the PlayNC newsletter, beta announcements, game trials and other exclusive offers - delivered straight to your inbox."

Also make sure that your email is up to date :)
Yeah, the box is checked, has always been checked. My email has been the same for years. Just all of a sudden I stopped getting the newsletters, and I can't seem to get it reset so that I do.

Also, I don't understand the conditions we have on receiving the bounties of Santa.....

Holiday Santa
If Santa is released, he will then visit random players throughout the world.
There are three conditions that must be met in order to be visited by Santa:


You must be actively engaged in combat.
You cannot be in a party.
You cannot be in a peace zone.

Holiday Santa will visit players for the next four (4) hours. There is no need to interact with him. If you are his chosen recipient, he will automatically place a present in your inventory.
Holiday Santa will dispense a set amount of gifts during this 4 hour period.So, NCSoft wants us to solo for these four hours or we don't receive a present? This just doesn't make sense to me. And I LOVVVVVVE presents! I want one :(
General Information
In order to defeat Thomas D. Turkey, you must first obtain a Saving Santa Hat from one of Santa's Helpers. Santa's Helpers can be found in all major towns and starting villages across the land.
Thomas D. Turkey will spawn every four hours, but only for 30 minutes. His "battleground" will be the area just south of Frozen Valley (which is south of Dwarven Village).


Battling Thomas
After equipping the Saving Santa Hat, you will receive 3 Active skills (located in the Item Skills section of your skill list): Rock, Paper and Scissors.
Only 30 people can battle Thomas at once.
http://www.lineage2.com/news/images/the_process_final.jpg
At regularly scheduled intervals, Thomas will cast something that looks like a self-buff (pic 1). This is an indicator that all participants should now cast their chosen skill (either Rock, Paper or Scissors). If you cast before this time, the round will be invalid. If your skill is done at the right time, then you will see a Rock, Paper or Scissors icon appear above your character's head (pic 2). This means that you are registered for the current round. You will also see a 'buff' icon next to your character window showing that your skill is now active.
Shortly after Thomas' self-buff appears, he will then throw a random sign which will appear as an icon above his head (pic 3). If your choice beats his choice, then you will see another icon next to your character window indicating how many wins you currently have.
You must beat Thomas 4 consecutive times in order to free Santa.
If you tie with Thomas, you do not lose any wins you have already accumulated. However, each Win only lasts for 2 minutes. So you must achieve another win (and no loses) within this 2 minutes in order for your Wins to stack.
When a player receives 3 consecutive wins, Thomas will bestow a beneficial buff on that player. This buff increases Max HP, MP and CP, Movement Speed, P.Atk. and M.Atk., and MP consumption for skills is decreased. This buff will last for 1 hour.
Once a single person receives 4 consecutive wins, Thomas D. Turkey will disappear, and in his place, you will get a glimpse of Santa and his reindeer before he heads out to spread holiday cheer throughout Aden and Elmore.


Holiday Santa
If Santa is released, he will then visit random players throughout the world.




There are three conditions that must be met in order to be visited by Santa:

You must be actively engaged in combat.
You cannot be in a party.
You cannot be in a peace zone.
Holiday Santa will visit players for the next four (4) hours. There is no need to interact with him. If you are his chosen recipient, he will automatically place a present in your inventory.

Holiday Santa will dispense a set amount of gifts during this 4 hour period.


The Rewards
If you've been a good little boy or girl (and meet the conditions listed above), Santa will give you a Santa Claus' Gift Set. This will appear as a red stocking in your inventory. Note: Please make sure that you have enough room in your inventory. If you don't have the space, you will miss out on receiving the gift.




The Santa Claus' Gift Set can be double-clicked to transform into three various gifts: Gift of Joy, Gift of Luck and Gift of Enjoyment. These gifts will then transform further into various useful items:

The Gift of Joy will transform into 4 various Holiday Scrolls. Each scroll has a specialized set of buffs. No matter what your class, one of these scrolls will cater to your occupation. These scrolls can be used once every hour for 8 hours.
The Gift of Luck will transform into a Santa Claus' Weapon Exchange Ticket. This ticket can then be taken to a Santa's Helper and exchanged for the enchanted timed weapon of your choice. The enchant will be randomly bestowed between +4 and +16. However, a few lucky players will receive a regular +10 A-Grade weapon when they attempt to exchange their ticket.
The Gift of Enjoyment will transform into a Special Christmas Tree that you can enjoy the whole year round. However, a few lucky players will receive a Rudolph Agathion!
Everything except for the Santa Claus' Gift Set is considered a Shadow-type Item, meaning that they have a finite expiration time attached to them. This means that time will continue to expire on these items whether you are in game or not, and whether they are equipped or not. The Gifts of Joy, Luck and Enjoyment are 4 hour items. The Holiday Scrolls have an 8 hour expiration. And the Santa Claus' Weapon Exchange Ticket has a 12 hour expiration. Special Christmas Trees will remain in the game indefinitely.



Miscellaneous / Important
The event will be applied to all servers during the December 16th maintenance period.



The following items and NPC's will be removed from the game during maintenance on December 30th:

Saving Santa Hat
Santa Claus' Gift Set
Gift of Joy
Gift of Enjoyment
Gift of Luck
Santa Claus' Weapon Exchange Ticket
Santa's Helper
Event weapons obtained through the Santa's Helpers are shadow-type items and will count down regardless of whether they are equipped or sitting in your inventory.

When an event weapon is equipped it will give a temporary passive skill. The passive skill received will depend on the classification of weapon being used (ie: blunt, dagger, dualsword, etc...).
When Santa is freed, every player can go to a Santa's Helper and receive the Holiday Festival buff for the next 4 hours. This buff increases Max HP, MP and CP, Movement Speed, P.Atk. and M.Atk., and MP consumption for skills is decreased. This buff will last for 1 hour, but can be obtained for up to 4 hours.


The fact that you can't be in a group sucks, but also just let everyone else save santa and when he's free go get your buffs and level and hope santa comes for you.
Yea I don't get the "you can not be in a party" part but oh well.

My guess was due to bot parties, considering they are always in combat and not in peace zones :P
Finally an event which will not give bots billions of adena. Actually, it will not give them any money :D
My guess was due to bot parties, considering they are always in combat and not in peace zones :P

I never thought of that
Saving Santa Event December 16th - 30th

General Information

Siren, could you please read through my broken down explanation and comment where I'm wrong.

Killing Thomas



Get a hat from the helpers in town.
Locate Thomas D. Turkey south of Frozen Valley. Prepare for PvP. He spawns once every 4 hours for a maximum time of 30 minutes.
The hat gives 3 skills to use in the rock/paper/scissors game with Thomas.
When he self buffs (1), cast your choice.

Casting before the self buff invalidates your individual chance that round.


The first 30 people to cast their skill choice will be registered for that round.
Thomas will then make his own choice.
If you win, you will see a win buff icon saying how many times.

Ties do not count as loses, therefore you do not lose your win buff icon.


Each consecutive win buff icon lasts 2 minutes so make sure you get in another round as soon as possible.

If you lose, or pass the 2 minute mark, you will lose all levels of your win buff icon.


Once you hit 3 wins you will be buffed for 1 hour (see event page for buffs)
As soon as one person gets 4 wins Thomas is defeated and you see Santa....! Yippee!


http://www.lineage2.com/news/images/the_process_final.jpg


Holiday Santa



Solo players, in combat stance, outside of peace zones stand a chance of having Santa pay them a visit during the 4 hours after Thomas has been defeated.
Santa will place a present in your inventory (red stocking).

Double click the stocking for a Gift of Joy, Luck or Enjoyment. 4 hour shadow timer.
Double click those for...

Joy: 4 class based 1-hour buff scrolls. 8 hour shadow timer.
Luck: Ticket for a +4 to +16 shadow timed weapon of your choice. Chance to get a +10 superior A-Grade weapon instead. Tickets have 8 hour shadow timer. Weapons have a shadow timer which count down regardless of being equipped or not. Each shadow weapon comes with a temporary passive skill dependant on the weapon type.
Enjoyment: Christmas Tree (HP/MP regen) or Rudolph Agathion (no mention of shadow timer for the Agathion bracelet but trees remain forever).






Misc



Santa helpers will provide buffs in town during the 4-hour santa visit period. Buffs last an hour.


Questions for Siren

Does santa visit everyone or only those with 3 or more wins in killing Thomas?

Does the stocking have a shadow timer associated? How long?
Does the Rudolph Agathion have a shadow timer associated? How long?

Will the buffs from the helpers be available to everyone, or as my first question, only one of the people who attended the attack on Thomas?


If everyone does indeed have to visit santa in order to gain these bonuses, this is a brilliant way to prevent bots from cashing in on the event. The event seems to only cater towards assiting players in their grinding by giving buffs and a few bonus shadow weapons. There are only 2 items here which are permenant, those being the A-grade weapon and the trees (asuming the agathion is shadow). This leaves me little reason to participate as my trusty boxed buffers give me the buffs I need.

I'd love to see how many people get an A-grade weapon from this.

Good luck, and I look forward to your replies Siren.
Sparrow - read my reply below to the post you made in the other thread.

Think about the rewards.

Buffs. Buffs and more buffs. Oh, and maybe a few shadow weapons... wooo you're gonna do so much more healing with that +16 staff!!

Play an acad toon for the week.. I'm sure most healers and buffers have an alt they can work on for a week - then you may stand a chance of getting a +10 Ag weapon.

Even a level 1 toon could, in theory, get an a-grade weapon.

Wow.. Did we get stuck with this lame event because the Koreans didn't want it?? Of all the events, this one has got to be the worst. It pretty much means that most healer/buffers won't get jack, unless they get out of party and start smacking mobs during the time that Santa is supposed to be out. All the botters will probable send their bots out, out of party so they can get all the good stuff. So the botters and the people that solo with boxed buffers out of party wil pretty much be the only ones to make out on this event. Gotta love the way NC thinks..
One thing for sure, if it is indeed designed to avoid bot groups from benefiting, it is one complicated event.

Don't know if I'm gonna even care about participating >< I don't log on for 4 hours a night just to not party with anyone with the slim chance of an A grade weapon and some buffs. Too bad. I really like events too...
I just want a +10 superior weapon, assuming its top A, perferably 1hand sword, 1handmagesword, fist, or 2hand sword....nvm I just want a +10 superior weapon
You cannot be in a party

I don't think I will take part in this event much. I hate to solo.
Well, people have complained that they want an event which doesn't support bots. Now we have one.
There should be an 'alternate event' where you DON'T save Santa and get rewards--or where you work to have Santa not be saved.

That would be fun--a 'choose your side' event! :)
There should be an 'alternate event' where you DON'T save Santa and get rewards--or where you work to have Santa not be saved.

That would be fun--a 'choose your side' event! :)

All in favor of the TRASGPO say I!

(Turkey's Revenge Agains't Santa for Greater Peace Organization)
Good on them for doing a completely new event rather than reworked ones..! To be honest I cant believe we arent getting the usual fireworks/trees event we have for all previous xmas's :)

On top of that:

- they've done it so it doesnt benefit bots with grind items and party thang
- helps players the most who cant find a party and have to solo without buffs
- 1 hour buff that adds to many stats is available to everyone
- has something to do other than grind for items, freeing santa thang
- low chance at getting some insane cool items for anyone interested in trying

Interesting event that delivers what people wanted and well done imo :)
There should be an 'alternate event' where you DON'T save Santa and get rewards--or where you work to have Santa not be saved.

That would be fun--a 'choose your side' event! :)

A choose your side event is a cool idea. What if everyone goes the same side though..? Still, something along lines of this would be a laugh. Would have to think it through for exploiting it though.
You cannot be in a party

I don't think I will take part in this event much. I hate to solo.

Then go try free santa for fun, or simply enjoy the bonus buffs during event. Or you could always go hunt with people but out of party.
I just want to say, the gift of luck is a slight tweak on my event idea! And WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Ok im done :P
LOL imagine the insane odds on getting a regular +10 A grade weapon. What I would do for a +10 SOM LOL. Actually any +10 A grade would do since it would finance a complete S grade set of armor and weapon.

Who am I kidding though I'll be happy with the buffs.
Note: Please make sure that you have enough room in your inventory. If you don't have the space, you will miss out on receiving the gift.

Is this a "must be below 80% of inventory", or "have one open slot"?
Well, people have complained that they want an event which doesn't support bots. Now we have one.

Well...all those spoiling/seeding bots will have a blast as well...u know,the solo grinding dwarves out there who play constantly in one area with no buffer/party...
So no....bots WILL benefit from this event as well....
Good idea to create an event which does not reward bot trains. Sadly, the restrictions are easy to work around so that you can get rewards without being at the computer :(
True, but the bot owners can't leave their bots overnight with risk of losing the items (shadow) so.... doesn't really help bots at all.

Well...all those spoiling/seeding bots will have a blast as well...u know,the solo grinding dwarves out there who play constantly in one area with no buffer/party...
So no....bots WILL benefit from this event as well....
Meh wanted to write how much I appreciate that you cannot leave your toon afk for more than 3 hours or the gifts will expire, and then I re-read the event description and found this:

If you've been a good little boy or girl (and meet the conditions listed above), Santa will give you a Santa Claus' Gift Set. This will appear as a red stocking in your inventory...

The Santa Claus' Gift Set can be double-clicked to transform into three various gifts: Gift of Joy, Gift of Luck and Gift of Enjoyment...

Everything except for the Santa Claus' Gift Set is considered a Shadow-type Item, meaning that they have a finite expiration time attached to them...

So it seems you CAN leave a toon afk hunting over night and come back to an inventory full of gifts >.<

I really hope the gift sets will not be sellable/tradeable, or we will have shops with hundreds of gift sets in Giran, from all the automated dwarves hunting in the newbie lands with newbie buffs...
Finally this is some kind of event I was looking for!!! Ofc some bot players will get benefits, but not majority. As for me I'm very happy about buffs and other stuff, because I dont have any buffers. And a chance of geting +++ shadow weapon is rly cool :P

Btw one more question: Does shadow time continue going down when we're not loged in?

And I support Idead that those santa gifts should be shadow as well.
So.. I'm curious about this. As a buffer/healer.. how is there ever a chance to get a present? Obvisouly, all 3 requirements have to be fullfilled to recieve a gift. Healer will most likely be in grp so that cancels the chance right there. And buffer may be boxed oop but will never be actively engaged in battle. And why would you even go engage in a battle with the turkey while you can just solo wherever, while other ppl play with it? Because apparently it doesnt matter if you were there. Once set free Santa will leave and drop stuff into ppls inventory randomly anyways.. So yea.. if anyone could explain all this to me lol Oo .. Doesnt make any sense whatsoever...
So.. I'm curious about this. As a buffer/healer.. how is there ever a chance to get a present? Obvisouly, all 3 requirements have to be fullfilled to recieve a gift. Healer will most likely be in grp so that cancels the chance right there. And buffer may be boxed oop but will never be actively engaged in battle. And why would you even go engage in a battle with the turkey while you can just solo wherever, while other ppl play with it? Because apparently it doesnt matter if you were there. Once set free Santa will leave and drop stuff into ppls inventory randomly anyways.. So yea.. if anyone could explain all this to me lol Oo .. Doesnt make any sense whatsoever...

You miss the whole point....it's NC Soft....it's not supposed to make sence :p
Holiday Santa

If Santa is released, he will then visit random players throughout the world.

There are three conditions that must be met in order to be visited by Santa:

* You must be actively engaged in combat.
* You cannot be in a party.
* You cannot be in a peace zone.

Holiday Santa will visit players for the next four (4) hours. There is no need to interact with him. If you are his chosen recipient, he will automatically place a present in your inventory.

Holiday Santa will dispense a set amount of gifts during this 4 hour period.

Nice, finally a event based on random events.
Does having a baby pet/wolf/hatchling/strider/summon out count as being in a party?

Anyone know?
I've toyed with the idea of going to our fort (combat zone) and hit an npc (which doesn't cease until you click away) for the four hours while I go shopping ^^

Kidding aside. Is this event a joke? I'm beginning to think that it is someone's idea of a practical joke. It's the "can't be in a party" and "must be in combat" in order to get the stocking that is throwing me off. As someone else pointed out, as a healer and the buffers out that that are actually still active players, it basically eliminates this population from the event. Very strange.
My guess was due to bot parties, considering they are always in combat and not in peace zones :P

So only the solo bots with oop support will be rewarded~
Does having a baby pet/wolf/hatchling/strider/summon out count as being in a party?

Anyone know?

No it doesnt (proof is that you dont spawn Warders on IoP with a duo + pets)
You can not be in a party... So for the whole duration they strongly discourage partying, very nice, I think they did this due to programming limitation they encountered and choosing not to code it properly they simply imposed it as a rule.. just LOL.
I will be partying, so farewell ridiculous event ;).

Seriously now, were they even thinking when they imposed that rule ? Doubt it, you'd have to be brain dead not to notice the major flaw in this "event".
Well...all those spoiling/seeding bots will have a blast as well...u know,the solo grinding dwarves out there who play constantly in one area with no buffer/party...
So no....bots WILL benefit from this event as well....

Your talking about level 20 bots?
So only the solo bots with oop support will be rewarded~

True, but how many of those Vs. Bot Trains exist? I think it's at least the lesser of two evils.
you do know, bot trains will just go out of party for event right? lol.
Your talking about level 20 bots?

you havn't looked outside ivory tower latly have you?
It's amazing how every single thread ends up being a bot discussion. OCD has taken over the boards!
You miss the whole point....it's NC Soft....it's not supposed to make sence :p


lol that is so sad on so many levels. *shakes fist angrily at NC*.. Thx for nothing :(

I'll just find myself an npc outside of town, make my healer auto hit and leave my pc for the day lol..
you havn't looked outside ivory tower latly have you?

Not sure what server your on, but doesn't happen on Phoenix.
you do know, bot trains will just go out of party for event right? lol.

Would be the most Counter-Productive bot group to stay out of party all-day, if not drop and re-invite it's dancers and buffers every time they are needed, to have a chance to get the items from this event every 4 hours. Your reaching at best here, because that would be far from feasible.
Would be the most Counter-Productive bot group to stay out of party all-day, if not drop and re-invite it's dancers and buffers every time they are needed, to have a chance to get the items from this event every 4 hours. Your reaching at best here, because that would be far from feasible.

in end-game bot trains, yeah... bot trains in 40~60 catas, that consist of 2~5 dwarfs, a pp and a se could easily go out of party though.
Would be the most Counter-Productive bot group to stay out of party all-day, if not drop and re-invite it's dancers and buffers every time they are needed, to have a chance to get the items from this event every 4 hours. Your reaching at best here, because that would be far from feasible.
Or they will stop because they want to make money and solo on some NPC all day?
catering an event, to exclude some bots, and over half the legit comunity is never a good idea.
I applaud the effort of creating a new event and to a greater extent appreciate the effort to exclude the 3rd party people from exploiting the events...

Thats where my happiness ends, the restriction on this event are so ludacris that it is barely worth while even attempting.

I have my own buffer accounts so I really do not need shadow buffs, I will use them when convenient and only if they are better then my buffers. What is the point to the complete randomness of the Santa Gift Set???

Seriously if you spend your time attempting to free Santa every 4 hrs for the duration of the event time there is absolutely NO guarantee that Santa will visit you at all, even if you do happen to meet the silly factors. Does NCSoft realize that there a few Solo lvl spots for toons above 75??? Couple that with the STUPID random Factor and you basically are telling all 75+ toons that this event is simply not for them; not to mention the Buffers and Healers that are rarely engaged in active combat.

Is NC asking everyone to just go out an make a new low lvl toon for the duration of the event? If so just SAY IT! Again if that is the case will the rewards be transferable? I certainly wouldn't be happy to find out I got a +10 A grade weapon on a lvl 22 toon created sololy for the event and I couldn't trade it to one of my A grade toons. Buffs go immediately into Sell shop so I couldn't care less about them.
Hi All. I wanted to let you know we have updated the Saving Santa Event web page, located here (http://www.lineage2.com/archive/2008/12/saving_santa_ev.html).

Specifically, we have clarified the conditions for receiving a gift from Santa. You can receive a gift whether you are grouped or solo. The only requirements are:


You must be actively engaged in combat.
You cannot be in a peace zone.
you all thing about the chance to get smething, if party, if not party, if bot's get this .....

what the thell do we get?

.....buff scrolls(usseless to me because I need VR to stay in one place) that vanish after 8 hours.
...... shadow weapons ...that vanish even faster ......


yes the chances for me to get anything are very slim ...but if those are the rewards .....hell I don't need them..... what about some revita pops! NO!? nothing about that ....if legit players can exp fast what is the need for bots, and if there is no need for bots ...NC gets less money ......


so my mind is ...... stupid reward.....the chances are nice .....but the rewards are dumb.
Thanks Siren!

One thing though, the event page states there are three conditions, not two as you've now indicated :D

***UPDATED*** There are three conditions that must be met in order to be visited by Santa:
Soooo...... if I am healing a party that is actively engaged in combat (healing does not put me in an attack mode), do I still get a present? I swear; I've been really good ALL YEAR LONG.
Lies!!! Bad bad bad.
Santa knows. He' been keeping a list :D
Soooo...... if I am healing a party that is actively engaged in combat (healing does not put me in an attack mode), do I still get a present?

Yea... the condition now is slightly better, yet still the same concern :/ maybe trance/sleep/nuke (whichever u prefer - even it's useless :p) the mobs just to stay in combat mode?
Get yourself a pet maybe.. or throw a mana burn here and there.
Well, that's dangerous in my business, purp. Especially since most of my xp is done in Hellbound these days. My job is to heal and to do minor crowd control... not to engage in combat.
Then tell me, what else is mana burn used for?
Then tell me, what else is mana burn used for?

To waste mp if you don't really need to use it :p
Specifically, we have clarified the conditions for receiving a gift from Santa. You can receive a gift whether you are grouped or solo. The only requirements are:


You must be actively engaged in combat.
You cannot be in a peace zone.


I was curious if someone can define "actively engaged in combat" for me. Now that you can be in a group and your members attack.. does that mean your toon (for example buffer who does not "actively" attack) is considered "actively engaged"? Or would I have to actually attack a monster in order to be considered "actively engaged"? Because the party thingy is certainly an improvement but it still doesnt determine if people who play buffer and/or healer classes are left out, or not.
Actively engaged in combat means that your character is in a combat stance,

Like for instance, you have a character and he/she is standing still, now hit something once and stop and notice how your character is focused, energized and ready for battle, and this lasts for a few seconds then it is regular standing again. That is actively engaged in combat. The state of being in a combat stance. Being in a combat stance also means you cannot restart or log off.
Actively engaged in combat means that your character is in a combat stance,

Like for instance, you have a character and he/she is standing still, now hit something once and stop and notice how your character is focused, energized and ready for battle, and this lasts for a few seconds then it is regular standing again. That is actively engaged in combat. The state of being in a combat stance. Being in a combat stance also means you cannot restart or log off.

:D tyvm for clarifying. Its exactly how I thought so thx NC for fixing the grp thing but than again thx for nothing because neither buffer nor healer, or any other type of "actively" played passive supporter class (unless xp'ing in Inquisitor) will take part in this event.
I guess for those healers who really want a visit from Santa will have to make an exception this Christmas. Casting something like wind-strike or trance, which both use minimal MP, onto an enemy while your parties HP is nice and safe.

Any active healer should be in a position to know when it's save to select an enemy in order to enter combat stance - all you have to do is make a one click macro if you are focusing on healing a tank.

/assist
/useskill trance
/target purp

Takes but a few seconds to do all of that - if your party needs healing every 1s then you're obviously on the wrong mobs ;)

To waste mp if you don't really need to use it :p
Soooo...... if I am healing a party that is actively engaged in combat (healing does not put me in an attack mode), do I still get a present? I swear; I've been really good ALL YEAR LONG.
Hero Rift mobs are still green to you :p
you all thing about the chance to get smething, if party, if not party, if bot's get this .....

what the thell do we get?

.....buff scrolls(usseless to me because I need VR to stay in one place) that vanish after 8 hours.
...... shadow weapons ...that vanish even faster ......


yes the chances for me to get anything are very slim ...but if those are the rewards .....hell I don't need them..... what about some revita pops! NO!? nothing about that ....if legit players can exp fast what is the need for bots, and if there is no need for bots ...NC gets less money ......


so my mind is ...... stupid reward.....the chances are nice .....but the rewards are dumb.

Legit players XP'ing faster would have little, to no effect at all on bots.
" When Santa is freed, every player can go to a Santa's Helper and receive the Holiday Festival buff for the next 4 hours. This buff increases Max HP, MP and CP, Movement Speed, P.Atk. and M.Atk., and MP consumption for skills is decreased. This buff will last for 1 hour, but can be obtained for up to 4 hours. "

This buff sounds pretty awesome. A 1hr combo buff for +CP, +MP, +HP and Patk, Matk AND Clarity? What would be even more awesome is if that buff stacked. 8)

Either way, +CP and clarity will be pretty awesome.
I guess for those healers who really want a visit from Santa will have to make an exception this Christmas. Casting something like wind-strike or trance, which both use minimal MP, onto an enemy while your parties HP is nice and safe.



That is exactly my point. Why would they force me to have to go to such lenghts to get a gift. (Same as they originally tried to force people to solo in order to get one. A lot of people agreed that it was rediculous and they must have to otherwise they wouldnt have changed it.)
And I know.. people will tell me now .. "well then dont do it". But I shouldnt even have to make a decision like that because its an "event" It is suppose to suit everyone and make everyone happy to participate.. not completely change the play style of 2 or 3 classes in game.
Events can't make everyone happy.

Pretty much all ingame events we've had recently have been about collecting drops from mobs and exchanging them for gifts or the chance to win gifts. This only helps people who play a lot. Casual players will get far less than your hardcore 8-hour a day player.

In this event there are very few pre-requisites to gain prizes.. all you have to do is be in combat stance out of town to stand a chance of getting a prize. If you play for 1 or 10 hours you will more than likely still stand the same chance.


What I still don't know is... and maybe Siren can answer... is are you only eligible for the gifts if you've taken part in the Thomas raid - or is everyone eligible?

If this is so, people won't be incentivised to visit Thomas and will just level and reap the rewards while other people try to defeat him.
incentivised?
It's from the same dictionary as "Physicality" I think (j/k).

Is this "Thomas" a train, by chance?

As for events, they have never been all things to all players. They have variously rewarded bots while rewarding real players (all 7 of us). They have been pretty weak as events go. They have been awesome once in awhile. They have been primarily solo--AND configured for groups.

If you can dream it up, we've probably had something similar that was partly loved and partly hated.

Perhaps we should appreciate any event at all considering how impossible this player community has been to please! I'm not sure how the dev's continue to be incentivised (I had to......) to even program them :)
some say anything is better than nothing, some say nothing is better than anything.

even on this topic the community is divided.

i think the event co-ordinators have become apathetic to the needs/wants of the cumminity and have taken it upon themsleves to make something that THEY find fun.

which is fine from one perspective.

i'll just hope against hope that i'll get a reward i can use. shadow or not.
There are three conditions that must be met in order to be visited by Santa:

* You must be actively engaged in combat.
* You cannot be in a peace zone.


And the clarification continues.

Engaged in combat...PvE combat or PvP combat? Or both perhaps?

Maybe it doesn't matter as long as you're in the "battle stance."
incentivised?

Sorry ... motivated.

Blame the Americans at my company who keep using it in conversation.
:D
lol, a grade weapon chance or rudolph agathion chance. ^^ its an incentive. I wonder how many turkey men are going to spawn though

i would like a chance to fight him w/o finding out that too many ppl r battling him. also i wonder how many ppl will go for the complete 4 consecutive wins.. Whether they will stop @ 3 cause of the hour buff, once u complete 4 you'll need to find a hunting spot :D
some say anything is better than nothing, some say nothing is better than anything.

even on this topic the community is divided.

i think the event co-ordinators have become apathetic to the needs/wants of the cumminity and have taken it upon themsleves to make something that THEY find fun.

which is fine from one perspective.

i'll just hope against hope that i'll get a reward i can use. shadow or not.

I hope you get something too Spud...afaic it can go where the sun don't shine....darkside of the moon :p
that does it!! :< i made a human on hindemith around C1 time, i wonder if he's high enough to PK you!
Knowing how others lvl in comparison to you, I highly doubt it. And he will probably have buffs too, which u wont (newbie buffs dont count, not enough offence in them).

You are better off trying to lvl that tyrant of yours on your server.
that does it!! :< i made a human on hindemith around C1 time, i wonder if he's high enough to PK you!

Heh you misunderstood...

I honestly hope you get a nice item or even two or three.

I was taking about sticking "this event" on the Darkside of the Moon as far as i'm concerned.

If you wanna play on Phoenix look me up.... i haven't much but its yours :)
i know, tulpie. i was only jokin around.
I didn't understand all the shadow/non-shadow, duration while wearing things or not part. Can someone sum it up for each item in the event please?
I didn't understand all the shadow/non-shadow, duration while wearing things or not part. Can someone sum it up for each item in the event please?

everything except the +10 A grade weapons and the Christmas agathion will be Shadow. even the buff scrolls will be shadow.
Did anyone figure out yet if you are required to kill the turkey or if you have a chance to get presents, no matter if you killed it or not? :confused:
it appears the requirements to get gifted are not that you need to free santa.
The only thing I could see that you get from the turkey experience is hour long HP/CP/MP buffs. The rest of the event does not appear to be related to that by much.
Why are events getting more and more extreme in who benefits, and how much?

Last years Halloween Event, buff scrolls shadow hats, or a top A grade weapon, which was pretty much non existent back then. Oh, and only 2-3 of those per server >_>

But that's not enough. No! lets make those weapons +10 now! And introduce a ridiculous set of rules for how to obtain it (which bots will fulfill easier than any other player.)

It's not so much the event itself, nothing against that. But I swear whoever comes up with the rewards has his brain turned upside down inside his/her cranium.

Stay tuned for next year. It'll be +6 S80 (S83?) armor sets.
I thought you could only fight the turkey in a non-safe zone, that should take care of the bots, shouldn't it?
everything except the +10 A grade weapons and the Christmas agathion will be Shadow. even the buff scrolls will be shadow.

Are you sure the agathion won't be shadow? It's in the list of "lasts 4 hours". :x


Speaking of battle stance, when you try to hit a mob and miss, then stop, your character will stay in battle stance until you hit something. Does it count as "engaged in battle" or is it just a display bug?
...gj

isnt l2 supposed to be a group/team game? On one side its cool since bots wont get anything from the event but ... Its christmas, u're supposed to be in group (?) !!!
Dont like the idea of MAKING you solo just to get rewards, me likes parties
im very happy with this event, im now in Dwarf village waiting they put down servers , make maintenece and ONLine again and try this amazing event!!!
I thought you could only fight the turkey in a non-safe zone, that should take care of the bots, shouldn't it?

From my understanding the turkey is irrelevant, doesn't matter who fights it. it's the next 4 hours where bots will benefit.

Speaking of battle stance, when you try to hit a mob and miss, then stop, your character will stay in battle stance until you hit something. Does it count as "engaged in battle" or is it just a display bug?

Probably not. Have another person look at you and tell you what stance you're in. But I'm betting display bug.
If I get visited by santa, I don't care.
Btw, can I go afk while atacking an npc that is in a non-safe area and still meet the criteria ? :p *hint* Lol..
Thomas D. Turkey will spawn every four hours, but only for 30 minutes. His "battleground" will be the area just south of Frozen Valley (which is south of Dwarven Village).




there will be lot of pvp, i can take more video and post to www.gamespot.com or www.mmorpg.com . well done NCsoft, i want to win the video of the year award.
Okay. I really like this event. It's really fun
So far i love the buffs. I run fast for the first time!!! Yay!!! ++++1
The gift thing you open and get shadow buffs scrolls; If you dont open it can you keep that for a long long time..? Is it tradeable..? At work atm havent had a chance check even out yet :)
you cant keep for a long time, all santa bags thing will disapear affter the event is over
You can trade the Santa Gifts though. Once they are opened, what's inside cannot be exchanged.
Santa knows. He' been keeping a list :D

And checking it twice :D
Looks like it's going to be a fun event. I remember yesterday when all the players were disparate to catch Thomas. They were asking if he's around one minute after another.

Told them" Hey ppl relax the turkey will shout when it will appear!"...and they were all like "how do you know that?" "liar!" "do you have something to do with the GMs?" and so on...LOL on you when it shouted and lol on the one with "the ******* was right"


So far it seems fun and looks like Santa would be safe with so many fans around;)

Enjoy your presents. ;)
Is the shout an announcement or like a global orange/white chat?
Is the shout an announcement or like a global orange/white chat?

Orange global shout if I remember correctly, he says there phrases.
What, thrice with no 10 second delay? And Orange?

Wow.. he really is Santa!
By the way: I would like to place a general request and ask of you to stop hitting the poor turkey.


Especially for the Phoenix server: Stop trying to kill it, is not thanksgiving!

It's not fair for 200 ppl to jump on a turkey, even if he's not well proportioned. And what makes you all D graders think you can kill it when the S graders were failing. I don't think making a rainbow of ss effects is the point of the event.


Have a good one!
Screenshot!

Even better, fraps so we can laugh.
sry I don't have any, my laptop was having difficulties keeping the game up.. all I managed to see were the turkey, lots and lots of ppl hitting it, even more ss effects...I started pressing the paper, rock, scissors skills in the exact order (end won the three rounds)..long freeze..turkey falling saying something, Santa flying away with his slid, even longer freeze (thought was dc)...then ppl going all purple around me, war tags fighting and all the usual..game crashed saying something about main loop,get the latest processor driver.....that was my first experience with this event
Another day in Lineage II then.

Bah.. here's me thinking it was something special.
You can go afk. We started hitting the NPC guard at our fortress, and several people got Santa visits. As far as I can tell, Santa will show up anywhere. We even had him show up in the Towers on Hellbound last night while we were moving to our hunting spot and not in active combat. And once, the person who got the present was the only one not hitting the npc.

And the buffs. OMG they are fabulous. And on top of the special Christmas buff you get in town it is even better! With the Healer buff scroll, I had 13k+ HP and 9k+ CP. OMG! :D Even with Shadow Dance I had an incredible run speed! And one of our clannies used the +15 Dragonslayer in the Oly! LOL.

And when the 4 hours goes, the system message, Heros shouting for someone to save Santa, we need the buff!!

Yeah, this event is pretty fun.
Anyone catch a Santa visit solo yet??
I have been visited by Santa while I was solo. I was running to a hunting spot. I love the buffs too. Great event, better than nothing.

Happy Holidays!

_________________________
Dawnie
76 Fortune Seeker/7x SPS
Thank you Dawnie. Seems visits are more frequent while in party, for a while I wasnt sure if it was possible to get a visit solo.

I went solo for about 6 hours and nothing. Then I was in a party for about 3 hours and saw 7 visits. (5 Of which went to the leaching buffer)
Servers coming down now.. hopefully the weapon thingy will be fixed.
idc of fixing the bug

GIMMAH MAH PREZZAH!

lol i wonder how a tyrant would do with a 2hsword in Bison mode...
Well i'm GK lvl 77...
I got a Weapon exchange coupon and got HD +13...

i had full DC Buffs without CoV and some PP Buffs... was about 2200 patk without (!) Bison... not to bad :)

*edit*

omg.. i need to change my sig oO
Got to love korean pseudo random! I've been hunting with a friend for 4 hours now. I'm buffer and he's dd but I get all the xmas gifts. So far I'm in the lead with 4-0 and he's ready to kill me :D
You really just have to be outside town to get a present - Santa likes to come to larger xp parties and give a sock to the 2box buffer sitting in the corner.
this is THE worst event ever... gimme nectars plz at least i got 1 a craystal then
NO PRESENTS FOR XMAS
by King Diamond

Christmas time is here again
Santa needs a helping hand
He cannot find a single sheep
To draw his sleigh across the night
So all the waiting Christmas trees
Gonna hear the master say

There's no presents
not this Christmas
There's no presents
Tom and Jerry drinking sherry
They don't give a ****

Christmas time is here again
Santa needs a helping hand
It's getting very very late
Saint peter's closed the golden gate
And Donald Duck is still in bed
I wonder who is gonna help

There's no presents
Not this Christmas
There's no presents
Tom and Jerry
All that sherry
They don't give a ****

There's no presents
Not this Christmas
There's no presents
Tom and Jerry
Still drinking sherry
They don't give a ****

I'm dreaming of a white sabbath
cheers for that Aconyte
Till this point I only hear rumors of Santa's visit...I tend to think Santa in-game is just a myth as in real life....just a merry story!
leave a online character in pvp zone (hitting some npc just to be sure) when you go to sleep or work and hopefully you'll get something

see the number of prizes is limited and people log all their accs in just to farm this so casual players get nothing at all
How many time may I keep the gift (not opened) in my inventory?


>> ReliaK <<
How many time may I keep the gift (not opened) in my inventory?


>> ReliaK <<

until the 30'th, when the event ends.
see the number of prizes is limited and people log all their accs in just to farm this so casual players get nothing at all
This is just not true. Santa has popped up and gifted people who just logged in and teleported to a hunting ground.

I think it's because you don't believe. You must believe in Santa for him to pop up next to you and give you his holiday surprise!!! :D <3
or you gotta swear up and down your gonna kick his @ss. i hadnt seen him at all until i was talkin in ally chat how i was gonna beat him down for not visiting me.

next thing i do is port to hardins to go buy cursed bones and as soon as i load up BAM santa gives me a gift ^^
Very creative and fun times are had with this event. Different activities and rewards, new NPC (I love when Santa appears) and tons of fun had by those that want to play along.

Great event, thanks go out to the all that put this Holiday Event together.

+1 Saving Santa Event
NO PRESENTS FOR XMAS
by King Diamond

Christmas time is here again
Santa needs a helping hand
He cannot find a single sheep
To draw his sleigh across the night
So all the waiting Christmas trees
Gonna hear the master say

There's no presents
not this Christmas
There's no presents
Tom and Jerry drinking sherry
They don't give a ****

Christmas time is here again
Santa needs a helping hand
It's getting very very late
Saint peter's closed the golden gate
And Donald Duck is still in bed
I wonder who is gonna help

There's no presents
Not this Christmas
There's no presents
Tom and Jerry
All that sherry
They don't give a ****

There's no presents
Not this Christmas
There's no presents
Tom and Jerry
Still drinking sherry
They don't give a ****

I'm dreaming of a white sabbath

11. Christmas

By: King Diamond from The Puppet Master

"Come they told me
A newborn King to see
Our finest gifts we bring
To lay before the King...Oh when we come"

...

It's Christmas again.. it will never be the same
It's Christmas again, I know
There's only sadness in my soul

It's Christmas again...It'll never be the same

And as the snow is falling from the sky
All I wanna do is cry
I got to get away from here
I gotta get away........

By tomorrow, I will be gone
By tomorrow, I'll see the sun again
But tonight...I am...The Little Drummer boy

Tonight...I am...the one who will destroy

The secrets never told before
Of those who lost their souls
There are sad things in the Darkness
There are sad things all around us

It's Christmas again.. it will never be the same
It's Christmas again, I know
There's only sadness in my soul

It's Christmas again... It'll never be the same

"Come they told me
A newborn King to see
Our finest gifts we bring
To lay before the King..."
Now here I go
I'm falling on my face, drum breaking on the stage
Oh My God it's such a big disgrace

It's Christmas again.. it will never be the same
It's Christmas again, I know
There's only sadness in my soul

Long live the KING. And Merry X-mas!

Tartaros and Aconyte fellow King fans I see. I approve! =D
Santa has list, he checks it twice
He knows if you've been naughty or nice.
He knows if you're been bad or good... so be good, for goodness' sake!!!
Did the socks disappears? When?

I was thinking of selling some.
Do the gifts disappear today or I can change them also in the next days?

<< ReliaK >>
The helpers normally stick around for a week, but who knows as there has been no update on the maintenance site.
Do the gifts disappear today or I can change them also in the next days?

<< ReliaK >>

The presentation says the items will disappear after the maintenance. All the items, except the numerous permanent +10 weapons, the agathions and the christmas trees.
I really enjoyed this event. Maybe we can get along the same lines.
Yes, despite the minor flaws, it was the best event since I first started L2.

I hope they continue on the same path, and perhaps take the players' feedback into consideration!

I miss my glowies and the shiny buffs already! Leveling will never be the same now hehehe!
The presentation says the items will disappear after the maintenance. All the items, except the numerous permanent +10 weapons, the agathions and the christmas trees.

Actually, the event description says:

"
The following items and NPC's will be removed from the game during maintenance on December 30th:


Santa Claus' Gift Set
Santa's Helper NPC"

So I hope the buff scrolls and event weapons stay in game until they eventually time out - would give me some more santa-powered xp after the downtime :)
It was cool event but santa visited me just once :P
I rescued Santa once and he didnt visited me again.
I bought 12 santa gift for 120k and exchanged 13 times. Didnt get any +10 a grade weapon. Got 2 Rudolphs, 10 Trees, alot of scrolls, bunch of Oe weapons.

Shame on you Santa!!

They could change the event, when you rescue santa, the one who did it, could get his first gift:P

Did anyone get +10 weapon?
Best event ever even though I never got no +10 weapon.

Good job guys.
Oook so Santa's Helper's still there. WEIRD! Wasn't he supposed to be gone today?

-cries- That means I could have waited till I opened all my 15 stockings :(
Oook so Santa's Helper's still there. WEIRD! Wasn't he supposed to be gone today?

-cries- That means I could have waited till I opened all my 15 stockings :(

No announcment or anything and server was only down for 30 minutes I logged in and santa still here and all event stuff.
There was an announcement, and the server said 1 hour maintenance.

Gee, I mean... I could have waited and have 4 hours on an event weapon, instead of 2. Gee. Lack of communication at its best.
Helpers gone on Devienne Server. Still have stockings though so buff scrolls are still good. Looks like knowone got a +10 wep.
grats on 76 Kru!
Well, here is my official mourning post of the end of the Santa event. I loved it. It was fun.... and cute... and the prizes were worthwhile.

****, will I miss those buffs...... :(

Thanks, to the Event team for this one....
Didn't read the other posts, but would have been a really great event if the items didn't have such short timers on them. Santa visited me three times, the first time I opened the stocking but didn't touch the 3 items, logged out and by the time I came back they vanished. Lame. Second time opened them, got the tree, got and used the buffs, got the weapon, logged out, weapon was gone by the time I got back in, couldn't use it. Third time, opened the stocking, Santa's helpers were gone, so couldn't use the weapon exchange coupon.

Again, great event, but for goodness sake extend the shadow times or don't make them tick down if you are logged out!!
Hi All,

During the maintenance cycle on 12/30/08 the Saving Santa event gift sets were not deleted from player inventory as was initially posted in the event information given on the Lineage 2 website. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused, and will be removing these items during the maintenance on 1/6/09.

Thanks,
Kinslon