I am starting to be a little annoyed by my possibility to survive PvP when I am not prepared. I have ES 76 and I can say that I have never won PvP when I was gang when I solo.
If I have time to summon my pvp pony, put on all buff what I have (in duel or arena) I am quite successful but when I am with my merrow I am dead after three shots from mage/archer and two minut fighting with tank/supporters class (similar lvl like me). Even typical buffer class like SE can me easily kill because they have Inquisitor.
ES with merrow is great char for solo exping but looser in PvP. He has too little crit rate to do fast damage. Even CP potion are useless because enemy firts kill pony and without pony I am as without weapon and armor.
Is here a summoner who can give me some advice what to do when enemy appears and you solo? BSOE is no solution.
I am starting to be a little annoyed by my possibility to survive PvP when I am not prepared. I have ES 76 and I can say that I have never won PvP when I was gang when I solo.
If I have time to summon my pvp pony, put on all buff what I have (in duel or arena) I am quite successful but when I am with my merrow I am dead after three shots from mage/archer and two minut fighting with tank/supporters class (similar lvl like me). Even typical buffer class like SE can me easily kill because they have Inquisitor.
ES with merrow is great char for solo exping but looser in PvP. He has too little crit rate to do fast damage. Even CP potion are useless because enemy firts kill pony and without pony I am as without weapon and armor.
Is here a summoner who can give me some advice what to do when enemy appears and you solo? BSOE is no solution.
from my understanding...
u r being ganked. i assumed a bunch of people coming out of no where n kill u while u r hunting. or prolly some nuker/archer hit ur summon, killing it while u r hunting. Under such circumstances, i think bsoe is better for u.
why? once merrow dies, u have no defense. even the mobs u were fighting will gank u too.
plus..ES has been well known for PVE, but not for PVP. There is simply too many keys for u to handle. (1 finger on CP spam, 1 finger on Servitor attack or nuke, 1 finger on servitor heal, servitor UD, QHP....etc etc. **** i either need more fingers or my hands have to cover the keyboard! erm...right leg on table to handle the mouse?) Customising macros on ur keyboard/nos may help abit.
Resummoning to a mirage during battle does nothing but do worst. WHy? pony no buffs. n resummoning takes time.
if u want or like to PVP, then u shld pick more direct classes...like nukers, archers, daggers, even warrior classes r good.
u r being ganked. i assumed a bunch of people coming out of no where n kill u while u r hunting. or prolly some nuker/archer hit ur summon, killing it while u r hunting. Under such circumstances, i think bsoe is better for u.
Yes, but even for only one enemy from every class I am no opponent. Killing summoner is easy. Stun summoner, fast kill summon, kill summoner. Or sleep or do something to prevent heal or bless summon. Archer and mages dont bother even with killing summon and direct kill me. Why is summoner so weak?:(
If they're running around looking to gank people, they're probably much better buffed than you are and likely higher level/better geared as well, plus they may get the first couple attacks until you have time to realize what's going on and react. It gets slightly better at 79, but the person doing the ganking always has a pretty big advantage.
- ES can solo very efficiently. You have a high level DD with 2 prophecies! (77 and then 78).
- Nukers are stuck with leveling on 1hp mobs for 80 levels unless they can find a group with a ton of rechargers/buffers.
This is called NcSoft balance. Whether it's truly balanced isn't for me to say, but that's what NcSoft thinks.
In pvp, NcSoft has relegated the ES to a buffer (Faster Reuse for Magic Skills buff) until you get 79. Unfortunately, that's just the way it is.
For PVP while leveling I would try:
1) The minute you think you're ganked UD your pony.
2) Get a nuke on your weapon or celestial shield through augments.
This won't make you uber in any way, but it'll help u fight back a little if you're ganked by like 1 or 2 people.
Aquaspark does have a point in getting that nuke augment. but casting UD on mob, switching on TP, firing a nuke from Augment (btw, nuke augment reuse is slow imo), takes time.
Like wat Talimus said, by the time u realised u r being hit, ur CP may be already down or ur pony is half dead.
Usually people who gank comes with like 1~4 people, they will most likely ignore ur pony, knowing u have UD it and they'll do more dmg on u rather than pony. Each of these guys say..doing a 1k hp dmg, even if it was halved by ur TP, they'll still do significant dmg. Abit difficult for u to pot back ur CP. plus u have to handle the mobs attacking ur already immobilized pony.
u do have another disadvantage. u r lvl 76. u shld be using Merrow to PVE. but having ganked n Merrow is immobilized+ only 1/2 nuke power... i dont think u can do much dmg.
Plus, people who gank usually r very well buffed, carries loads of pots. They only planned to pk u then soe out.
One more question, lots of peaple here are fan of boxers. I preffer from the start Merrow. With basic buff the merrow has bigger damage and the boxer bigger HP. The other stats are same. Why do you preffer boxers? I play the summoner with tank style. (I aggro mobs by SS or WS, take some damage and my merrow kill the mob before takeing aggro on it.) It works well in herbs area.
I hardly ever see anyone use boxer. Don't forget it still takes 18% of your xp at max level, as well as killing slower than a merrow. Even if you're sending in your pet to attack first there's no reason to use boxer over merrow unless you're hunting in a spot you really shouldn't be in.
I've also never seen people use boxer - everyone uses merrow until seraphim.
As said, it has no use except as a recharger every 20 minutes if u need the mp.
I've also never seen people use boxer - everyone uses merrow until seraphim.
As said, it has no use except as a recharger every 20 minutes if u need the mp.
Yes, use it as a recharger. Go to the hard/high XP places and zerg the rooms/etc. Just recharge up when you need, and you can XP forever or as long as you have supplies :P
- ES can solo very efficiently. You have a high level DD with 2 prophecies! (77 and then 78)
I dont agree. ES can solo only on white, green, light blue mobs. Every class can solo on that mobs. Even there are class that can often solo on red even dark red mobs.
After 60lvl you find out, that you and your summon need full buff. So you find friend for duo or start box. So the prophecies in 77 are not so useful, because you get better from DC or HP. After 76 the ES (EM) has nothing for looking forward.
I dont agree. ES can solo only on white, green, light blue mobs. Every class can solo on that mobs. Even there are class that can often solo on red even dark red mobs.
After 60lvl you find out, that you and your summon need full buff. So you find friend for duo or start box. So the prophecies in 77 are not so useful, because you get better from DC or HP. After 76 the ES (EM) has nothing for looking forward.
hmm sorry but no.
1) w/o a boxed buffer it isn't even a question. you can still solo pretty efficiently - and MUCH better than any another dd.
2) with a boxed buffer: making a box to 56/60ish is easy. 78 it ain't. so unless you're talking about dd's that have a 78+ box, you can do better than them with the prophecy >.>
3) with a boxed buffer: get a weapon and start wacking. Summoner's can be expensive, but at least presently with the elements on your weapon, a summoner can do decent damage.
Go to L2pets and read the ES threads, there's lot of info on PVE and trust me, ES can do good in that department. As you can see from my tag, I've played a high level mage, high level melee and presently an A grade ES. No class can do everything, but ES definitely has more PVE options than mages.
PS Plz tell me what classes solo on red mobs at 76, because if there are there aint many and I doubt the efficiency. Imp tomb is Yellow/White at 76... u saying lvl 76's solo HB?
Summoner is going to suck until you hit 79 and get your new summon... then you can't be killed. Bring lots of pots, the whole point of a summoner is to outlive your enemy, and with TP and summon heals + CP pots and healing pots, you can easily do that. Daggers are going to hurt a bit, and if they lethal it's game over. Healers are going to mana burn you, but unless they have amazing buffs they should drop. Your only problem is going to be fighting people that have healers with them... but then again, that's a 2v1.
PS Plz tell me what classes solo on red mobs at 76, because if there are there aint many and I doubt the efficiency. Imp tomb is Yellow/White at 76... u saying lvl 76's solo HB?
Ok, I was not talking about 76, HB is accessible after 78 so I dont have any experience. But I compare my exping as ES and with my sub SWS and the other friend before 76.
As ES I exped always on white, green, light blue mobs. Solo, after 58 with boxed SE 48. When I tryed red, yellow it always ended by dissaster.
As SWS I am doing same location, but with red, yellow mobs. For expample I started FoD as ES 70 and as SWS 66.
Yes, you can say that with sub I have better equip, better knowledge about location and so on. This is true. But I doubt that if I start ES again I will be able to exp on yellow red mobs.
78 it ain't. so unless you're talking about dd's that have a 78+ box, you can do better than them with the prophecy
I agree. For luck I have friend who can lend me DC 79. It cost much more ore but the buff dont get only summon but even me.
but at least presently with the elements on your weapon, a summoner can do decent damage.
What is the best element for summoner?
Go to L2pets and read the ES threads
Unfortunaly lot of peaple who are writing on L2pets are playing on free server or thay test summoner only through PTS. So the information are offten incorrect. Summoners before C4 were ruler
Summoner is going to suck until you hit 79 and get your new summon...
I was watching EM with Magnus in Varka yesterday. Magnus never used mage attack. Only meele. Is this meele warrior or again the mage attack is useless on 2x mobs?
If memory serves me right, it gets the water element that you have on your weapon. It's a pretty strong attack... takes longer to cast then a SpS hydro, but hits just a tad harder
I find wat you say strange about SWS. I've had a hard time soloing as a SWS all the way. I aoe'd to early 60's (with SE buffs) and then used a wolf (now Fenrir) to level solo after that. As a SWS, just me hitting mobs was way too slow - w/o the wolf I would be soloing much slower than an ES with or w/o buffs.
(Note that merrow's p.att was boosted in the last or previous to last update, so I don't know how it used to be.)
For EM you want to go AM with water.
If you only plan on meleeing, then a sword with divine stones would be good too considering the number of weak to holy mobs out there.
I enjoy the aoe water attack though, and I hear that the 79 summon's aoe attack is pretty strong (and with high m.att), so I'm slowly working on that AM with water.
Depends on which summoner class u play n which summon u usually play with. eg. ES, using merrow = water attriubute.
Unfortunaly lot of peaple who are writing on L2pets are playing on free server or thay test summoner only through PTS. So the information are offten incorrect. Summoners before C4 were ruler
who r u refering to? Itorbeh n me, we play on bartz. My clan has a couple of 7x summoners too.
I was watching EM with Magnus in Varka yesterday. Magnus never used mage attack. Only meele. Is this meele warrior or again the mage attack is useless on 2x mobs?
this is me in ketra...
:)
No, it was on Teon, Varka.
Great video.
Can you write me more about your equip and strategy? Do you use UD and if is there way how to shorten skill recovery time of UD of summon?
Great video.
Can you write me more about your equip and strategy? Do you use UD and if is there way how to shorten skill recovery time of UD of summon?
It looked like each pull required a Servitor Empowerment, but at some points it was hard to tell. Pdef stats on lvl 79 summons suggest it cannot tank all that, especially with the little amount of heals seen.
yes each pull is a huge one. so each pull requires a UD. i have lvl 70 pp n 78 se buffs. reuse time on my UD is 6mins. so in each buff round i do only like 2...sometimes 3 aoe. so in between, i fight as per normal, but i aggro 3 to 4 mobs at 1 go. it is manageable bcuz once one of the mob die, they may drop hp/mp herbs.
more like a question "how do we survive against a ES" summoner are pretty bad *** class in this game. not many people play it but it is very hard to beat them in 1v1
I don't think any class a Prophet can kill is bad-***. Things are different outside the Olympiad. It's pretty much be 79 or ****, unless there is a grade difference :P
P.S. Nice Video. I think I may sub ES second, since my roomate took over the one I was leveling.