PK/SK Skills

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can someone post which skills to train first on PK going for SK?, also, if you could elaborate what the skill does. ill probably go PVE build and then reset skills at lvl 70?
weapon/armor masteries, focus mind, sting, power break, UD, deflect arrow, m def pasives, agression, shield boost pasive, hex, vanguard, judment.

DON'T waste SP on: confusion, drain health, guard stance, freezing strike, life leech, cubics*

*In vanguard you can summon max lvl cubics even if you don't have them. Use vanguard -> summon cubics -> transform back takes about 30s.
Personally i was getting all the skills i could,but the most worthless ones are Poison and Confusion really...

but eventually u should be able to get all the skills u can learn until u reach your 3rd class or so,then u gonna have the SP problems...
weapon/armor masteries, focus mind, sting, power break, UD, deflect arrow, m def pasives, agression, shield boost pasive, hex, vanguard, judment.

DON'T waste SP on: confusion, drain health, guard stance, freezing strike, life leech, cubics*

*In vanguard you can summon max lvl cubics even if you don't have them. Use vanguard -> summon cubics -> transform back takes about 30s.

am I supposed to train this skills in order?
Its pretty simple to figure out what to learn first... learn all your masteries, and then the skills you're going to use. If you don't get the skills he tells you not to, then you should have no problem getting all your skills as soon as you lvl up.
weapon/armor masteries, focus mind, sting, power break, UD, deflect arrow, m def pasives, agression, shield boost pasive, hex, vanguard, judment.

DON'T waste SP on: confusion, drain health, guard stance, freezing strike, life leech, cubics*

*In vanguard you can summon max lvl cubics even if you don't have them. Use vanguard -> summon cubics -> transform back takes about 30s.

you're gonna need these skills later though
you're gonna need these skills later though

You won't need cubic because you can summon them using vanguard. Guard Stance drains so much MP that its totally useless(well guard stance is good agains burst dmg done by GK's/Gladies in the first seconds of olympiad fight other than that - useless). Drains as well as guard stance mostly used in oly fights or lolarena. Freezing strike same as skills above have very litle usefullnes outside oly but we know that most of us will never have a chance to fight there so why the hell waste ~20-30 mil SP on those skills?
for pve any of those skills are pretty much useless.

If he wants to pvp, he probably shouldn't be asking what skills to learn first, I'm sure theres much more for him to learn to begin with than where to start out with skills

Just skip all the ones statusquo posted.
Just learn them all.

You see, by the time you get 76 you will have not many SP left if you dont learn the ones you asked.

And about Drain Health, dont forget that the Magic Cri rate increased a lot in Gracia 2.2.

During a UD or Vengence you can get some HP back and deal, some times, more then a melee critical damage.

Chaos
when he gets to 76, he can spend 25 mins learning all the skills.. but for the time being while grinding, just making sure he gets what he needs and has enough sp to go around for all masteries/skills is more important than worrying about drains you use once every 3 hours in pve =/
Some guy told me to learn the life leech drain on my SK sub so I did. I've never really used it though, and the few times I've tried it, it doesnt seem to return all that much hp. It casts fast though.
You won't need cubic because you can summon them using vanguard. Guard Stance drains so much MP that its totally useless(well guard stance is good agains burst dmg done by GK's/Gladies in the first seconds of olympiad fight other than that - useless). Drains as well as guard stance mostly used in oly fights or lolarena. Freezing strike same as skills above have very litle usefullnes outside oly but we know that most of us will never have a chance to fight there so why the hell waste ~20-30 mil SP on those skills?

No-one PvP's in vanguard
Some guy told me to learn the life leech drain on my SK sub so I did. I've never really used it though, and the few times I've tried it, it doesnt seem to return all that much hp. It casts fast though.

No it won't, you have amost 1/2 the int of a SH while lacking, mattk passives, cast speed passives, and lacking power from mage weapon.

Its like...

SK drains for 500 damage, drains for 300 hp, and has 6k hp

SH drains for 2000 damage, drains for 1200 hp, and has 3k hp

its the fact that you do less damage while having more hp and a nuker does more damage while having less hp.
No-one PvP's in vanguard

If you start summoning cubics in midle of pvp that means you're doing smth wrong... I just said that it's easy to summon cubics while you're in vanguard and then transform back.

No it won't, you have amost 1/2 the int of a SH while lacking, mattk passives, cast speed passives, and lacking power from mage weapon.

Its like...

SK drains for 500 damage, drains for 300 hp, and has 6k hp

SH drains for 2000 damage, drains for 1200 hp, and has 3k hp

its the fact that you do less damage while having more hp and a nuker does more damage while having less hp.

But you forgor 1 major thing! WHICH IS CP! I already suggested that drain skills should bypass CP.
If you start summoning cubics in midle of pvp that means you're doing smth wrong... I just said that it's easy to summon cubics while you're in vanguard and then transform back.



But you forgor 1 major thing! WHICH IS CP! I already suggested that drain skills should bypass CP.

O yes, drain should either calculate drain cp with hp, or bypass it. Would be funny though to see a SH get a drain crit and 1shot people with full cp.

Like either have drain cp in it whereas you drain

x amount of cp

when cp is low

you drain x amount of cp
you drain x amount of hp

when cp is gone

you drain x amount of cp (becuase you always have a bit of cp regened)
you drain x amount of hp

OR

you have cp

you drain x amount of hp, bypass cp.


I doubt they would make it bypass cp becuase, SH's and necros and orc mystics would kill you quicker
Daggers already does that! Btw I'm wondering how lvl 60 knight skill will work for drains. Afaik this skill for 10s reflects 100 magic dmg but what about drain effect?
Daggers already does that! Btw I'm wondering how lvl 60 knight skill will work for drains. Afaik this skill for 10s reflects 100 magic dmg but what about drain effect?

huh? what you said is you take 2900 damage instead of 3000
huh? what you said is you take 2900 damage instead of 3000

Really,does anyone know how much % that reflection will be?
TBH im not very optimistic of how good this skill will work or how much % will reflect...
They added CP for a reason though right? Sure daggers can by-pass it but then daggers are ridiculous.
They added CP for a reason though right? Sure daggers can by-pass it but then daggers are ridiculous.

Do you think they though about ******* other skills? NC do - not thinks.
Really,does anyone know how much % that reflection will be?
TBH im not very optimistic of how good this skill will work or how much % will reflect...

I'm not sure. If it
s only 8 seconds, I think it is a complete reflect of projectile magic attacks

Or it could be reflect all magic

Or it could be reflect a % of magic and the remaining % is damage taken, but I doubt that or it would be a 20min self buff like DA reflect damage and not 8 seconds.