Enigma, storm trooper, sentinel, bloodsaint and i hope my clan, vhallala, but for my clan even if 95% members are legits, we are friends with a lot bots
I suggest you join bloodsaint, they have less enemy and more peoples like them :)
I will contact the respective leaders and get details about the clan rules.
I am very glad to hear there are still people that do not support or use such programs in this server, even better if this is a major rule in their clans.
I really hope the next update does something against this pest. I have found quite a few legit people quitting the game because of this fustration. Very honestly, I have been told "pirate" servers keep bots much more under control than official ones...which makes no sense to me.
Thanks again.
If you could please send me details about the CL I will appreciate
Enigma, storm trooper, sentinel, bloodsaint and i hope my clan, vhallala, but for my clan even if 95% members are legits, we are friends with a lot bots
I suggest you join bloodsaint, they have less enemy and more peoples like them :)
we are friends with lot of bots....what does that mean? Ah,u join them when they turn max lv and become ppl again.How very noble.Ur no better then einheit trash.
we are friends with lot of bots....what does that mean? Ah,u join them when they turn max lv and become ppl again.How very noble.Ur no better then einheit trash.
You are in deathadders or stormtrooper or sentinel or enigma ??
At least i have the courage to show my nickname ingame and my clan, but you do you have the same courage ?? :)
LOL valhalla legit....??? u mean maybe legit like silent..??? If u r legit good for u but don t talk about ur clan..The whole server knows who is and who isn t legit .A post here is not going to change that vikobe...
and then what,ur bring ur 80+ bot friends to pk me,sod off bot
At least we know than you are in luna, at least just say me in which clan you are :)
We can see which clan have much bots your clan or mine :)
To krom, yeah lolenigma the ebay clan, you are the first to accuse everyone be bots, i suggest you to look in your yard before to look in vhallala yard :)
Didnt you like than angeline and her friends have left your clan to blame few bloodsaint members to be bot ??
My nick is necrod,and maybe u would know that if u would actually play the game instead powerlevel in one place.As 4 d clan,i have none since i moved to teon wich is much less bot infected.So u see,u can have ur bot wars along with einheit untill only bots remain on luna 4 all i care.Just dont say something like>were friends with bots<becouse programs dont have friends.
My nick is necrod,and maybe u would know that if u would actually play the game instead powerlevel in one place.As 4 d clan,i have none since i moved to teon wich is much less bot infected.So u see,u can have ur bot wars along with einheit untill only bots remain on luna 4 all i care.Just dont say something like>were friends with bots<becouse programs dont have friends.
You are in teon, so why you comment in this topic if your only informations about luna are from me or another luna members ??
So before to accuse my clan to be bot, i suggest you to come in luna and checking yourself
And plz dont say me than your clan dont have relation with the bots clan of teon, someone in your clan has few contacts in the others bots clan of teon
It is the difference between my clan and lolenigma at least we dont hide our head in the sand and admit than we have few relations with the others bots clans, lolenigma never admit than they have few contacts in the others bots clans, but they have :)
i was on luna till little while ago,so dont u teach me bout luna,and who is who and who does what.I saw ur clan bot,and im prety sure im not the only one.and one more thing,i will write were ever the f...k i want,bot! Just to let u know,i still got three 52 char,and one 59 on Luna,all legit,can u say the same?
i was on luna till little while ago,so dont u teach me bout luna,and who is who and who does what.I saw ur clan bot,and im prety sure im not the only one.and one more thing,i will write were ever the f...k i want,bot! Just to let u know,i still got three 52 char,and one 59 on Luna,all legit,can u say the same?
Well you know my nick ingame, you can check me if i am legit :)
And do you have proove than my clan bot??, i need the names and the screenshots, if you dont have both, back to luna and investigate my clan, if you wish i can recommand you to my leader we will invite you in the clan and you can see who is legit and who is bot :)
To gangel did i said than my clan is 1 of your strong enemy ??
And wathever dont complaint about zerg, your clan is expert to zerg peoples, when you are 10 and us only 3, you attack us, when we have equal number, you dont dare attack us ;)
Well if ur legit then i think is sad u endorse Bots,couse many honest ppl quit becouse of them,and they make Luna a poor choice for a server.I only regret time and effort spent there,and losing good players to other bot-unfriendly servers.
Well if ur legit then i think is sad u endorse Bots,couse many honest ppl quit becouse of them,and they make Luna a poor choice for a server.I only regret time and effort spent there,and losing good players to other bot-unfriendly servers.
I dont endorse bots, but i have no choice to have few relations with them, they control the market, the quest boss, the quest mobs, etc
Lolenigma never admit this, but if they can sub or noblesse, it is because they have negociate a temporary peace or have paid them to succesfull their quest :)
Enigma, storm trooper, sentinel, bloodsaint and i hope my clan, vhallala, but for my clan even if 95% members are legits, we are friends with a lot bots
I suggest you join bloodsaint, they have less enemy and more peoples like them :)
I dont endorse bots, but i have no choice to have few relations with them, they control the market, the quest boss, the quest mobs, etc
Lolenigma never admit this, but if they can sub or noblesse, it is because they have negociate a temporary peace or have paid them to succesfull their quest :)
I am a so called "lolenigma" member, I have leveled and geared my character legitimately and can honestly say I never even had walker or any other cheating programm installed on my Computer.
We do not have any treaties with any other clan going on in order to do our subclass or our noblesse - I believe you are quite missinformed or assume a lot that just is pure ********.
I got Cabrio, hallate, kemon and golkonda, each time where my own clan killed it. I got baium by camping him normally (remaining tagged) while Teddybears was fighting with T.
Funnily enough, wasnt it like 4 days ago where i saw this poor Valhalla member, camping barakiel, getting killed by DA (DeathAdders) as you are 2 way war with them where your lil EE (Mija) turned up, got killed aswell during the raid, and your people just didnt get him?
I mean seriously, we done the TOI RBs countless times within enigma - can you say Valhalla done any quest RBs? We dont need a treaty with anyone to get this or that quest Raidboss, its pure BS.
Vikobe, you shouldnt be lying here and tell people that valhalla does not tolerate botters while infact you do. And you do still have people botting daily in FOTD and other locations.
Honestly, im quite disappointed to see you on here being such a forum warrior, talking such ******** about Enigma when I remember how carebear you were when you passes by me on TOI, and ask me that my party lets you pass without PVP because you were afraid.
Honestly, atleast be so honest and let people know, that YES, valhalla has botters, and YES, valhalla does not kick its members for using bot programs - while on the contrary, enigma does this.
Ofc, any proof to show me our "treaties" of peace, or where we paid someone for a RB is missing, right? I really wish to see this.
Do you only read my first post or all my posts in this topic, if it can help you to be happy i am not with enigma, i hate them and i think than they must look in their yard before check the others yards :)
You are from guru forum or with t or teddybears ?? :)
I dont endorse bots, but i have no choice to have few relations with them, they control the market, the quest boss, the quest mobs, etc
Lolenigma never admit this, but if they can sub or noblesse, it is because they have negociate a temporary peace or have paid them to succesfull their quest :)
Yep , U can ask someone from DeadAdders (our ex ally member) how Enigma is doing Barakiel,Toi Bosses, 700 mobs ect .We don't pay to anyone for Quests.
And we don't have peace at all, all emo ppl gone from Enigma to bloodsaint when we had 7 active wars.
I am a so called "lolenigma" member, I have leveled and geared my character legitimately and can honestly say I never even had walker or any other cheating programm installed on my Computer.
We do not have any treaties with any other clan going on in order to do our subclass or our noblesse - I believe you are quite missinformed or assume a lot that just is pure ********.
Oh plz ayleen, dont lie your clan have few contacts with einheit or teddybears
I got Cabrio, hallate, kemon and golkonda, each time where my own clan killed it. I got baium by camping him normally (remaining tagged) while Teddybears was fighting with T.
Is just confirm than your clan have this contacts
Funnily enough, wasnt it like 4 days ago where i saw this poor Valhalla member, camping barakiel, getting killed by DA (DeathAdders) as you are 2 way war with them where your lil EE (Mija) turned up, got killed aswell during the raid, and your people just didnt get him?
Is proove we are legit, if we bot we go kill the high boss every day
Is DA have said you this ??
I mean seriously, we done the TOI RBs countless times within enigma - can you say Valhalla done any quest RBs? We dont need a treaty with anyone to get this or that quest Raidboss, its pure BS.
I already answer
Vikobe, you shouldnt be lying here and tell people that valhalla does not tolerate botters while infact you do. And you do still have people botting daily in FOTD and other locations.
Did i said this??
I said than my clan have few relations with bots clans to have access for sub quest boss or noblesse quest boss
And plz give me the names in fotd
Honestly, im quite disappointed to see you on here being such a forum warrior, talking such ******** about Enigma when I remember how carebear you were when you passes by me on TOI, and ask me that my party lets you pass without PVP because you were afraid.
Of course i was alone and you 5 enigmas, i remember this day i shout hello ayleen and you complaint to me dont shout my name, because you fear than someone kill you, and wathever this day you didnt help me
Honestly, atleast be so honest and let people know, that YES, valhalla has botters, and YES, valhalla does not kick its members for using bot programs - while on the contrary, enigma does this.
Give the names, ebayer
Ofc, any proof to show me our "treaties" of peace, or where we paid someone for a RB is missing, right? I really wish to see this.
I can ask you the same question about my clan
Ps je considere que notre amitie est rompue ayleen, ton clan attaque mon clan ne t'attends pas a ce qu'on reste les bras croises, donc ne soit pas surpris si je ne fais que repondre aux attaques de tes pe**** amis :)
Do you only read my first post or all my posts in this topic, if it can help you to be happy i am not with enigma, i hate them and i think than they must look in their yard before check the others yards :)
You are from guru forum or with t or teddybears ?? :)
ALL players BOTS! ahahaha BANNED ALL! More players ebayer, Enigma too...and you :P And prove the return you you can not.
You are from guru, with einheit or teddybear ?? :)
no einheit, no taddybear.
And buy adena everything, and if already banned, banned everything or who that is better and who that is worse? Silly it. And all posts into the clans legits Enigma, valhalla, deathadders, sentinel so are not plausible.
It is better to drink to poison, than to read it... :D:D:D
Vikobe my friend TB and T have both declared on us. How can there be a co-operation there?
But unlike you, some ppl are honorable and think wide.
Let me broaden your view, with an example.
We have declared on Crusaders. Yet, we invited two of them in our raid party yesterday in order to help them with their Q in varka.
They kindly asked us to and we helped them although we pvp/pk them all the time.
Most of Crusaders bot or have been botting. Still we helped those kind dudes although we will kill them next time in pvp.
(This should also come as an example to those who say that we mass-petition and other such bool*****. The truth is that we don't care. We are happy being legit and stronger than some lolbotclans).
Does this mean that we have relations with bots?
If this is so why don't you also acuse TB/T/otherbotclan of having relations with Enigma? :D
So pls keep your admitted relations with bots to yourself and your clan mr.non-factor and leave enigma in peace so they can pk your clan members when they bot :D :D
Bottom line is most, if not all, of the clans that try to play this game legit have standing rules against botting. You get caught....you get dropped....you get kicked. Have all of the clans in this thread had people join that turned out to be botters. Yes, of course. I promise you though if they were caught or get caught then they are gone.
As far as I know, Enigma and Sentinels have always had wars going with one or more elements of both sides. I can only recall one time we assisted one side at Aden. Many members have made multiple attempts at Baium due to the fact that we havent bowed to or kissed someones booty to get our quests done.
I love how people get their info from ...
A) People who dont know their hand from their butt
B) People that got kicked and are emo ragin
then repeat it as fact.
Maybe you should just stick to commenting on your own clan and not ones you know nothing about. kkthanks :)
Vikobe my friend TB and T have both declared on us. How can there be a co-operation there?
Never said than it is permanent and official
But unlike you, some ppl are honorable and think wide.
You think your clannie are honorable, your clan are expert to backstab
Let me broaden your view, with an example.
We have declared on Crusaders. Yet, we invited two of them in our raid party yesterday in order to help them with their Q in varka.
They kindly asked us to and we helped them although we pvp/pk them all the time.
So, sometime we play with 1 or 2 miniskirts, even if we hate them, i remember in deep it we have invited a swordsinger of your clan to join us for it
Most of Crusaders bot or have been botting. Still we helped those kind dudes although we will kill them next time in pvp.
(This should also come as an example to those who say that we mass-petition and other such bool*****. The truth is that we don't care. We are happy being legit and stronger than some lolbotclans).
Already answer
Does this mean that we have relations with bots?
If this is so why don't you also acuse TB/T/otherbotclan of having relations with Enigma? :D
Is proove than you cooperate with them sometime, as us with you
So pls keep your admitted relations with bots to yourself and your clan mr.non-factor and leave enigma in peace so they can pk your clan members when they bot :D :D
And you, you are factor ??
why i will let lolenigma in peace, you want problem with us and now you ask the peace, are you joking ??
Of course you pk us, because lolenigma need 9 enigmas to kill 1 vhallala, when we have equal number we kick your butt :)
Feel free to make the declard war against Valhalla two-way so we can bask in the glory of your uber pvp abilities.
Though you may want to teach a few of your peeps how to turn auto rez off first. QQ
Lolenigma the zerg clan, when we pvp against you, you alway call your boyfriend the sentinels, because you QQ than we kick your butt
We have give you many lesson about pvp, so dont be too pride about your zerg against us, is rare to see only your clan against us, you alway have sentinel stick your butt
hahahahhahahhaha Vikobe you are hilarious :D :D :D
Really LOL!!!
Vikobe your attempt to answer was a big fail, you actually said nothing.
And anyway the fact that you don't answer the war means A LOT.
You can cry as much as you want in forums, but in game the truth is that Valhala is a joke.
PS. When I said leave Enigma in peace I ment the bool***** you write in forums. But then again that's all you can do, cause in game you are all cowards. So keep up throwing mud on others so that you can prove yourself clean enough. The sad truth though, is that you stink.
Vikobe your attempt to answer was a big fail, you actually said nothing.
It looking than the noob waldrom dont have arguments
And anyway the fact that you don't answer the war means A LOT.
You can cry as much as you want in forums, but in game the truth is that Valhala is a joke.
So why every time we kick your butt you call your boyfriend the sentinels ?? :)
PS. When I said leave Enigma in peace I ment the bool***** you write in forums. But then again that's all you can do, cause in game you are all cowards. So keep up throwing mud on others so that you can prove yourself clean enough. The sad truth though, is that you stink.
Is what i wrote, the noob waldrom start to QQ, because he dont have arguments :)
GF, GL, HF I'm out. Keep QQing now./care
Just confirm what i wrote
Gratz zahaan you prove you can kill vhallala with your boyfriend the sentinels
Vikobe I have read all your post and I think you are wrong man.
It seems to me that you are the one with no arguments and you still did not answer why the war with enigma is one way.
1. You bot and you don't want to be killed by wars.
2. You are too afraid cause you will get pwned.
3. You are carebears.
4. All the above.
I choose #4.
The way I see it, wadrom was right calling you mud thrower.
Vikobe I have read all your post and I think you are wrong man.
It seems to me that you are the one with no arguments and you still did not answer why the war with enigma is one way.
1. You bot and you don't want to be killed by wars.
Why we war back da ??
2. You are too afraid cause you will get pwned.
Why we war back da ??
3. You are carebears.
Why we war back da ??
4. All the above.
Why we war back da ??
I choose #4.
So when you can pvp without your boyfriend sentinel we war back your little clan
The way I see it, wadrom was right calling you mud thrower.
u should get ur facts right vikobe before u talk! at least for the bloodsaints they left because of politics not because of botting! and btw if u see an enigma botting give us the name. We will check it at the spot and if he is,he ll be out of clan in less then a minute. now go ask ur clannies how they set up their bot trains and stop wasting time defending them because it s uselless! who r u trying to convice? us or URSELF?
u should get ur facts right vikobe before u talk! at least for the bloodsaints they left because of politics not because of botting! and btw if u see an enigma botting give us the name. We will check it at the spot and if he is,he ll be out of clan in less then a minute. now go ask ur clannies how they set up their bot trains and stop wasting time defending them because it s uselless! who r u trying to convice? us or URSELF?
You are in Enigma Krom??
Maybe you should start pking Lolhala again.
Then they will stop talking hopefully.
before u talk! at least for the bloodsaints they left because of politics not because of botting!
It is no to stop you to accuse few bloodsaints member to be bot
and btw if u see an enigma botting give us the name.
Show me my post i accuse you of this, and wathever ask miss ebayer nark1ssa :)
We will check it at the spot and if he is,he ll be out of clan in less then a minute. now go ask ur clannies how they set up their bot trains and stop wasting time defending them because it s uselless!
Give me the names :)
who r u trying to convice? us or URSELF?
If i look your zerg in this thread looking than it is lolenigma to convince their member :)
1) Not our fault that Sentinels likes killing you guys....I have yet to see Enigma call out in ally chat to any of our allies for assistance in pvp with Valhalla. Of course, it is what a good ally clan should do, ya? Support your allies in pvp?
2) Correct me if Im wrong....you are allied with Axis (41members declared 2-way + 24members in alt clan) and Russian (66members declared one-way). Our allies get involved and you cant call in yours? :(
Sorry for interjecting reality into your little fantasy.
I play on luna since it has opened and i have seen how the specific clans progress themselfs during that time, most ppl who played here for more then 6 months can easly target clans which got to their current status by botting or ebuying, simply because they know, it is a common knowledge, you go around and you just know who bots and ebuys.
There are many clans that are legits, same claim to be legit but are not, some are to small to be even noticed, and some are just unlucky and got to many skeletons in their closets. So if you are new and your looking for a legit clan, judgeing from my experience here is a short list of few of the most known legit clans.
For the first couple of months i played with Stormtroopers, which at that time seemed a fine choice for a legit player, but the incompetence of the liders drove me away, as i am a 4 year expierienced player i have found it diffilcut to deal with ppl who have little or none knowledge of the game and even less pvp expierience, so even after achiving a rank of officer i decided to leave simply because of the clan attitude towards pvp. Sadly, things there havent change that much, Stormtroopers are still considerated as a noob academy, with carebare attitude. As time goes and their lvls getting higher, it is the lack of pvp experience of the lidership that prevents them from becoming anything more then a punching bag. Sad but true. But, if thats the way you see the game, go ahead, you will find Stompies a very nice and friendly clan.
At that time i was eager to get some action and Enigma came to be the number one choice, claimed as a legit clan, with many experienced players and more importantly, focused on pvp, i decided to join them. At first everything seemed fine, however it wasnt long before i discovered how the things really are in there. I will not mention about Enigmas affiliation with bots as more likelly everyone whoever played with them has its own idea about it, some will deny and some will simply stay quiet. What i want to say is that the clan itself has become obsessed with being the number one legit force on server that the whole idea of it went out of control. The management, which are the ppl who got the resources both in economy aspect as well as in vast knowledge of the game, focused their efforts on acquiring as much power to their clan as possible. Knowing that the legits can never compete with botters on equal terms, they realized the only way to succed as a factor was to build a zerg force. Ppl ware being used to build up the clans structure, boosted up clan lvls and capacity, leaders decided on everything, you ware told what subclass u should make in order to benefit the clan, if you got a different idea you ware given penalties, you ware never told what is going on, as a mare member you did not have access to the information on the clans current political status nor the expectations. You ware always being told what to do. You couldnt say u like to exp alone cus that means you dont want the clan buffers to be higher lvl. Leaders never paid attention to invidual players, all that mattered was zerg. In Enigma you ware not leveling, you have been breed, everything was more important then you, everything that made the clan bigger and stronger. Those who got over the hipocricy, eventually got higher in ranks, but the rest, ware always told the same thing over and over again: "You need a clan, not the clan needs you". I have seen many ppl leaving enigma and returning just because there is nowhere else to go, other legit clans are to noobish or to small to have any kind of impact on servers status. I dont reccomend that clan, you will feel lonelly and not appreciated in there, unless you dont give a **** about the ppl you play with and you like to have as many wars as possible, go ahead.
As everyone knows, Sentinels are the sidekicks of Enigma, they ware in ally with them ever since i remember and that is unlikelly to change, they share a common view of the game and alltho they are a separate clan, they pretty much fallow the same pattern.
Valhalla claims to be a legitimate clan, which off course is a false statement, clan that once botted and says "we dont do it anymore" is just pathetic. If it wasnt for Razimba, who boosted up the clans reputation in the first place, there wouldnt be any talk about valhallas major part in the servers existence. The clan is going downhill nowadays, even Stompies got under their skin.
DeathAdders are the former allies of Enigma, it is legit clan that has it roots on private server of DN. As most of private server clans that moved to official they got their attitute on pvp and pve in groups, a polish based clan which firmly tries to step out of the shadow of Enigma. I give this one +1
And there is my clan, BloodSaints, a relatively small clan, no noblesses, only few ppl on 78 with subs, rest of the clan is in range of 5-7x, small but friendly community, we like to pvp but honestly most of the time we spend on exping, every week we are trying on pulling some nice clan events like raid party or underground colloseum battles. We have one active war with Swarm, it makes a little bit of a David vs Goliath situation, but lucky for us we dont exp at HB or deep in MoS to encounter them on a daily basis. Other then that we are no scared to fight enybody, its just we know that you cant bring a knife in to a gun fight.
1) Not our fault that Sentinels likes killing you guys....I have yet to see Enigma call out in ally chat to any of our allies for assistance in pvp with Valhalla. Of course, it is what a good ally clan should do, ya? Support your allies in pvp?
I dont blame them to pvp us, i blame you call them when we stole your candy, and thanks confirm than your clan too much scaried to pvp alone
2) Correct me if Im wrong....you are allied with Axis (41members declared 2-way + 24members in alt clan) and Russian (66members declared one-way). Our allies get involved and you cant call in yours? :(
Well, today, they kick the butts of your clan in varkas and you bsoe :)
Sorry for interjecting reality into your little fantasy.
I play on luna since it has opened and i have seen how the specific clans progress themselfs during that time, most ppl who played here for more then 6 months can easly target clans which got to their current status by botting or ebuying, simply because they know, it is a common knowledge, you go around and you just know who bots and ebuys.
There are many clans that are legits, same claim to be legit but are not, some are to small to be even noticed, and some are just unlucky and got to many skeletons in their closets. So if you are new and your looking for a legit clan, judgeing from my experience here is a short list of few of the most known legit clans.
For the first couple of months i played with Stormtroopers, which at that time seemed a fine choice for a legit player, but the incompetence of the liders drove me away, as i am a 4 year expierienced player i have found it diffilcut to deal with ppl who have little or none knowledge of the game and even less pvp expierience, so even after achiving a rank of officer i decided to leave simply because of the clan attitude towards pvp. Sadly, things there havent change that much, Stormtroopers are still considerated as a noob academy, with carebare attitude. As time goes and their lvls getting higher, it is the lack of pvp experience of the lidership that prevents them from becoming anything more then a punching bag. Sad but true. But, if thats the way you see the game, go ahead, you will find Stompies a very nice and friendly clan.
At that time i was eager to get some action and Enigma came to be the number one choice, claimed as a legit clan, with many experienced players and more importantly, focused on pvp, i decided to join them. At first everything seemed fine, however it wasnt long before i discovered how the things really are in there. I will not mention about Enigmas affiliation with bots as more likelly everyone whoever played with them has its own idea about it, some will deny and some will simply stay quiet. What i want to say is that the clan itself has become obsessed with being the number one legit force on server that the whole idea of it went out of control. The management, which are the ppl who got the resources both in economy aspect as well as in vast knowledge of the game, focused their efforts on acquiring as much power to their clan as possible. Knowing that the legits can never compete with botters on equal terms, they realized the only way to succed as a factor was to build a zerg force. Ppl ware being used to build up the clans structure, boosted up clan lvls and capacity, leaders decided on everything, you ware told what subclass u should make in order to benefit the clan, if you got a different idea you ware given penalties, you ware never told what is going on, as a mare member you did not have access to the information on the clans current political status nor the expectations. You ware always being told what to do. You couldnt say u like to exp alone cus that means you dont want the clan buffers to be higher lvl. Leaders never paid attention to invidual players, all that mattered was zerg. In Enigma you ware not leveling, you have been breed, everything was more important then you, everything that made the clan bigger and stronger. Those who got over the hipocricy, eventually got higher in ranks, but the rest, ware always told the same thing over and over again: "You need a clan, not the clan needs you". I have seen many ppl leaving enigma and returning just because there is nowhere else to go, other legit clans are to noobish or to small to have any kind of impact on servers status. I dont reccomend that clan, you will feel lonelly and not appreciated in there, unless you dont give a **** about the ppl you play with and you like to have as many wars as possible, go ahead.
As everyone knows, Sentinels are the sidekicks of Enigma, they ware in ally with them ever since i remember and that is unlikelly to change, they share a common view of the game and alltho they are a separate clan, they pretty much fallow the same pattern.
Valhalla claims to be a legitimate clan, which off course is a false statement, clan that once botted and says "we dont do it anymore" is just pathetic. If it wasnt for Razimba, who boosted up the clans reputation in the first place, there wouldnt be any talk about valhallas major part in the servers existence. The clan is going downhill nowadays, even Stompies got under their skin.
DeathAdders are the former allies of Enigma, it is legit clan that has it roots on private server of DN. As most of private server clans that moved to official they got their attitute on pvp and pve in groups, a polish based clan which firmly tries to step out of the shadow of Enigma. I give this one +1
And there is my clan, BloodSaints, a relatively small clan, no noblesses, only few ppl on 78 with subs, rest of the clan is in range of 5-7x, small but friendly community, we like to pvp but honestly most of the time we spend on exping, every week we are trying on pulling some nice clan events like raid party or underground colloseum battles. We have one active war with Swarm, it makes a little bit of a David vs Goliath situation, but lucky for us we dont exp at HB or deep in MoS to encounter them on a daily basis. Other then that we are no scared to fight enybody, its just we know that you cant bring a knife in to a gun fight.
Cheers
It is because i like your clan and your member than i dont critic you, but razimbo is no with us, and how you know he botted when he was with us ??
At that time i was eager to get some action and Enigma came to be the number one choice, claimed as a legit clan, with many experienced players and more importantly, focused on pvp, i decided to join them. At first everything seemed fine, however it wasnt long before i discovered how the things really are in there. I will not mention about Enigmas affiliation with bots as more likelly everyone whoever played with them has its own idea about it, some will deny and some will simply stay quiet. What i want to say is that the clan itself has become obsessed with being the number one legit force on server that the whole idea of it went out of control. The management, which are the ppl who got the resources both in economy aspect as well as in vast knowledge of the game, focused their efforts on acquiring as much power to their clan as possible. Knowing that the legits can never compete with botters on equal terms, they realized the only way to succed as a factor was to build a zerg force. Ppl ware being used to build up the clans structure, boosted up clan lvls and capacity, leaders decided on everything, you ware told what subclass u should make in order to benefit the clan, if you got a different idea you ware given penalties, you ware never told what is going on, as a mare member you did not have access to the information on the clans current political status nor the expectations. You ware always being told what to do. You couldnt say u like to exp alone cus that means you dont want the clan buffers to be higher lvl. Leaders never paid attention to invidual players, all that mattered was zerg. In Enigma you ware not leveling, you have been breed, everything was more important then you, everything that made the clan bigger and stronger. Those who got over the hipocricy, eventually got higher in ranks, but the rest, ware always told the same thing over and over again: "You need a clan, not the clan needs you". I have seen many ppl leaving enigma and returning just because there is nowhere else to go, other legit clans are to noobish or to small to have any kind of impact on servers status. I dont reccomend that clan, you will feel lonelly and not appreciated in there, unless you dont give a **** about the ppl you play with and you like to have as many wars as possible, go ahead.sad but true.
+1 for truth
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in Valhalla You will find also good members whit You can play and enjoy, and they are as well long time on Luna.
"Show me my post i accuse you of this, and wathever ask miss ebayer nark1ssa "
I see that u join the club of people,that since cant find me botting or doing anything else illegal,they just accuse me for ebay.
So,a litle history lesson,last July i had a security problem with my accounts and cause of my pettition to support center,my account logs was under invistigate by NCsoft.I guess that if i had ebay,they would see it also,dont u think?
Many times at clan chat i was giving a link for the adena i having,and most of the time the amount of the adena was prety big.But at that point i was the clan leader,and i was holding the clan vault and doing with that,clan crafts.U are free to ask what gear i had on my toons(common items) and what gear we made and give to our clan mempers with all the adena we was making us a clan.
The gear i have now.I play on retail almost 4 years now.When transfers open,i transfer my main that i had at pheonix and a couple more toons.Again its easy for NCSOFT to check what gear and adena i have bring,and what i have now.
@SID
We try to run a clan that will be us much strong we can make it with legit and only legit ways.The founders of the clan have make some plans that we think that will help us in that direction.Evrything we ask,we inform people that aply to join,that we ask them specific things.So they already know what to expect from the clan with rules and events when they agree to join.
Ofcourse some1 that doesnt agree with those rules,he is free to not join or leave the clan when he feel that this playstyle isnt for him.No hard feelings.
All of Vikobe's BS aside...Sid's post is fairly spot on.
Best advice I can give is check 'em out yourself and find one that fits your play style. There are good people and most of the clans on Luna and and everything inbetween. ( Yes, even in the clans that allow botting. )
All of Vikobe's BS aside...Sid's post is fairly spot on.
Best advice I can give is check 'em out yourself and find one that fits your play style. There are good people and most of the clans on Luna and and everything inbetween. ( Yes, even in the clans that allow botting. )
Good luck and good hunting.
Ghaa i have gave to narkissa the last word and you continue, very maturity your behaviour :)
dual boxing should not be legal. It's not fair, it kills the players like me who have only one account and enjoy playing support class, because we become useless...
well true... in a way you are right...but as long as money comes in NCsoft doesn't care about that :)
only server i know that doesn't allow 2 box is azure(aerith/nanaki/celes) but it's a incomplete c5 private server(not l2j)
so much hate all around i find it amusing, no ones perfect, bot free, ebay free. and who really cares, if some one wants to bot/ebay then thats there choice, there account that will get banned no one else. personaly i find it sad that a lot of you get so involved in it, chill, have a beer and have some fun pvp like its ment to be.
and as for the parties vs 1, you have done the same many time, ffs i have lost count how many times i have been solo in FOTD on my sub and cosmics whole party has come hitting on me, it works both ways. tbh i just protend enigma dont exist these days, almost as bad as stoormtroopers for the "your a bot flaming". AND for all your information 78 GK and no dam bot! say what u wish i dont care, flame flame flame, pointless
Edit - Valhalla does not nor has ever claimed to be legit, but we do have a lot of non botting active players such as myself, No clan on any server is legit / bot free. NCsoft made sure of that when they decided money is better the morrals.
so much hate all around i find it amusing, no ones perfect, bot free, ebay free. and who really cares, if some one wants to bot/ebay then thats there choice, there account that will get banned no one else. personaly i find it sad that a lot of you get so involved in it, chill, have a beer and have some fun pvp like its ment to be.