since 10am this morning clans feeding uncontested in comps cuz most people dont get on till after work aka when oly starts. Fix the game ncsoft.
I love how a botted up toon in Nova who transferred to a dead server to bot without pvp for 6 months is now QQing that the game isn't fair for his clan of level 85s.
I love how a botted up toon in Nova who transferred to a dead server to bot without pvp for 6 months is now QQing that the game isn't fair for his clan of level 85s.
i love how im lvl 79 but yea ok, your right im 85. has nothing to do with oly being broken....why even post. didnt say nething about banning any feeding or nething just fix the times so people who wanna do oly can be there when it happens. You are a disgrace to players in this game. dont make butthurt posts about nothing. if i was a mod on this forum u would have been gone long ago, because u always post negative cries about everything. i think ncsoft would like to know olympiad isnt working.
and tbh i enjoyed the 12 hours of olympiad today ( no classes today:p ), but alot of other players who work missed alot.
i love how im lvl 79 but yea ok, your right im 85. has nothing to do with oly being broken....why even post. didnt say nething about banning any feeding or nething just fix the times so people who wanna do oly can be there when it happens. You are a disgrace to players in this game. dont make butthurt posts about nothing. if i was a mod on this forum u would have been gone long ago, because u always post negative cries about everything. i think ncsoft would like to know olympiad isnt working.
and tbh i enjoyed the 12 hours of olympiad today ( no classes today:p ), but alot of other players who work missed alot.
When legit players cry about the point feeding the clans that does it comes and say "don't QQ", but when the point feeders miss out they come and cry even more.
its not hard guys, just go noble your buffbots and use them for pointfeeding. pretty simple.
no, in all honesty i have no doubt its hard to get hero as an admitted Nova member on Sayha. my condolences that you can no longer do so.
what would you prefer though, as a fix to this? what is your solution? what fix could Ncsoft provide that would make it once again equal opportunity for everyone?
as i see it, the Olympiad is open to competitions only for half a day... am i mistaken? maybe running Oly 24/over 9000 would make it fair?
what would you prefer though, as a fix to this? what is your solution? what fix could Ncsoft provide that would make it once again equal opportunity for everyone?
delete hero system would be a good fix to all this.
well then really what would be the point in ever getting noblesse apart from blessing of noblesse?
i dont see any.
i propose a simple solution: open the oly to be all day everyday.
heres how this is a fix: it is equal opportunity for everyone. if you didnt make hero, it was cause some other player had more time to play than you. its tough noogies.
whats to prevent this from being exploited by bots?
name me a system in L2 that isnt already so exploited. at this stage of the game everything can be exploited by bots. my suggestion to this is to stop whining and play the game.
So, i just want to make sure I follow this: Amazing EE posted on the official boards that the Oly was in full operation during times when it is supposed to be down....And all everyone does is start their favorite paranoid subject: Cheaters, botters, ebayers... blah blah blah.
Lord Riot said:
"Why should they stop exactly? There's no harm in them relishing the misfortune/misery of those they feel do not deserve sympathy...Personally I couldn't care less but I can appreciate the irony."
This might be acceptable if it wasn't every single thread that these same people go on and on and on ad nauseum.
You say that the Oly is broken. In part it is because of most of the people on this forum, who pretty much play casually and have no endgame or pvp goals in the game.
First off, the Olympiad is PvP based. If you are not involved in PvP, why do you care about the Olympiad?
Second off, point-feeding is a clan activity. This game is clan oriented. The nobles in a clan come to the Oly and give up their points to a clan mate that has been predetermined to go for hero. In the last few days of each month, if you are in a clan competing, it can be pretty ****ed fun, you know!
If everyone leveled up to Noble and competed in the Olympiads, there wouldn't be that much point-feeding. But as it is now, there are just not enough competitors to make point-feeding a moot point. It would be nice if Specifics were as challenging as Open competition. On a server that HAS competition, you will see it... all the arenas full... and everyone poised to see who will win... and hopefully, if you can't fight and win, you get someone you can offer up your points to.
I don't think it is broken so much as not enough people take advantage of it.
Okay I'm not going to go into a 'Oly at a certain time or all day, whatever' rant, but I will say this: The post was made on official forums about a bug which the devs probably have a good idea about already (this is beside the point but still). Job done. Finished in the first post...
It's not like a question was asked. Being who AmazingEE is, an open thread that doesn't really require anymore serious player-based attention/response is going to get trolled by detractors, especially considering the irony. That's the way it goes. It's not like they are preventing the message from being sent.
I wouldn't be surprised if he expected as much. I don't think it's necessary, but it's also harmless. Whats the big deal?
the issue is already fixed. If there's enough competitors its impossible to feed. The reason that's not the case is because the NA/EU shards of the game are more or less dead when it comes to quantity of players
the issue is already fixed. If there's enough competitors its impossible to feed. The reason that's not the case is because the NA/EU shards of the game are more or less dead when it comes to quantity of players
Even on teon there was very litle competition beside power clans because every smarter guy know that it's just a waste of time.
the issue is already fixed. If there's enough competitors its impossible to feed.
its a re-accuring problem. happened earlier in the month as well. and with the impact that heroes have in pvp/epic raids and endgame clan status it really serioulsy needs to be fixed.
Yes, the morons that didnt understand the OP derailed almost immediately.
Maybe you guys could have just made another thread?
Like almost 60% other topics gets derailed? It's nothing new actually and I think every1 understood that main topic was about ''oly shound't be 24/7'' but for most of us it's just /care(about oly being 24/7) topic so ppl turned topic to more intresting way ;)
Even on teon there was very litle competition beside power clans because every smarter guy know that it's just a waste of time.
It's not a waste of time if there's enough people participating, you can't get enough people in there to steal points from everyone. The more you have to fight the harder feeding is.
Noone is talking about oly being broken in regards to attaining hero status.
The post was about olympiad being run on times it was not supposed to be working.
English isnt even my primary language and I was able to see it.
C'mon now ppl.
Same thing. His complaint was that they were feeding uncontested because noone was around at the time. the oly time can not be right for everyone obviously. No matter where you place it there will be people who can't do it because of their schedule, Moving it just means moving the problem, not fixing it.
Which makes the overall problem feeding, or rather that feeding is possible to such a large extent as it is.
It's not a waste of time if there's enough people participating, you can't get enough people in there to steal points from everyone. The more you have to fight the harder feeding is.
Same thing. His complaint was that they were feeding uncontested because noone was around at the time. the oly time can not be right for everyone obviously. No matter where you place it there will be people who can't do it because of their schedule, Moving it just means moving the problem, not fixing it.
Which makes the overall problem feeding, or rather that feeding is possible to such a large extent as it is.
You are ignoring the fact that the game has a set time for oly. That was the problem being adressed in the opening post. What ppl chose to do with it is beside the point.
If there's enough competitors its impossible to feed.
i completely disagree
all adding more nobles will do is add more points to the system that the overpowered oly farmers can strip and feed to their classes. the only way to counter point feeding is to have one of the handfull of overpowered classes working for you go in and kill the other overpowered class who is stripping the weaker classes of points and passing them round to who they want.... well that and balanceing all classes so they don't have a 99.99999% chance of being beaten by someone in A grade
You are ignoring the fact that the game has a set time for oly. That was the problem being adressed in the opening post. What ppl chose to do with it is beside the point.
No I'm not. read my post. I said it doesn't matter when that window is. there will ALWAYS be someone who can't make it at that time.
i completely disagree
all adding more nobles will do is add more points to the system that the overpowered oly farmers can strip and feed to their classes. the only way to counter point feeding is to have one of the handfull of overpowered classes working for you go in and kill the other overpowered class who is stripping the weaker classes of points and passing them round to who they want.... well that and balanceing all classes so they don't have a 99.99999% chance of being beaten by someone in A grade
The more players who play olympiad the more OP classes you need to stay in control. If there's enough then the point farmers simply can't keep up.
As I suggested players should get new oly ranks when they go up in points. In that way all OP classes would be competing with each other while not that OP classes would not meet those OP classes after 2-3 days of oly matches.
its not hard guys, just go noble your buffbots and use them for pointfeeding. pretty simple.
no, in all honesty i have no doubt its hard to get hero as an admitted Nova member on Sayha. my condolences that you can no longer do so.
what would you prefer though, as a fix to this? what is your solution? what fix could Ncsoft provide that would make it once again equal opportunity for everyone?
as i see it, the Olympiad is open to competitions only for half a day... am i mistaken? maybe running Oly 24/over 9000 would make it fair?
Spud what level are you and what level are your subs?
Lets do like afro-samurai. Create 10 headbadges and make only possible to a lower headbadge to duel with the next higher lvl, only who have the headband n2 would duel the number 1.
The looser of a duel will lost his headbadge, and the winner will release his old headbadge to the world.
The n2 headbadge can't stick with it for more then 5 day else it will loose the headbadge to the world.
lost headbadges that have no owner will drop from mobs like demons swords.
for that matter what is it to you and how does it contribute to the discussion?
Well it does matter. You have over 10,000 posts and you cannot participate in something your complaining about. Maybe you should have 200 posts and be noble.
I always thought forums were a great place to get help from other players and bring problems to the attention of the right people.
No I'm not. read my post. I said it doesn't matter when that window is. there will ALWAYS be someone who can't make it at that time.
The more players who play olympiad the more OP classes you need to stay in control. If there's enough then the point farmers simply can't keep up.
Yes you are ignoring it. Read the first post. Im not talking about your derailment of the thread into "gee, how can we make oly better". Im talking about how Oly has a set time on every server, and that it should follow those times.
I dont care if Oly is at 3 am for someone on my server, coz the server already has a set time for it. A set time that should be followed. And not broken every time we get daylight saving...
Aw c'mon Pure! (lol). I don't know you, but you HAVE to admit that a massive % of the subclassed "uber" toons in the game simply botted and ebayed their way to end-game.
I mean, that's not a shock, right?
So should posts and opinions and answers only come from lvl 79 players who actually bypassed more than 1/2 the content to end-game or should it come from 4 year players who have actually interacted with the game?
I'd rather hear from a Lvl 61 player with experience than our typical glowing cheater (though I'll grant that statistically at least ONE of them has to have been legit--at some point).
Imo, Spud has answered thousands of posts with correct information, solid opinions, and in ways that in no way "flame" others. To suggest he "ONLY" criticizes and flames is not at all accurate.
I try to read all of his contributions here--and generally learn a lot from them too.
You have to admit, you're "what level are you....?" question sounds like the beginning of the same elitist B.S. that's been shared before. If Spud is 75 he doesn't have a valid argument but if he was 80 he would? Good lord, this OP is about the Olympiad! It's not like it's secret information withheld from all who aren't lvl 80!
You see, Spud, you only really know how something works when you are part of it. That's why when you go to college or to a training school, you really aren't valuable until you actually get on the job and do the work and understand the problems and advantages. It's the way life works.
As I said above, all the people who play this game casually, have no interest in PvP or PvP clans really have no point in posting about the Olympiad or whether it is broken or not or try to pretend to speak with authority about it.
So yes, if Spud was level 80 he would have a valid point... but ONLY if he were noble and had participated in the Olympics to see how the system works in practice.
You all just want another -- ANOTHER -- forum thread to piss and moan about B/C/E. You are hogging the show every single thread. Get a grip.
Aw c'mon Pure! (lol). I don't know you, but you HAVE to admit that a massive % of the subclassed "uber" toons in the game simply botted and ebayed their way to end-game.
I mean, that's not a shock, right?
So should posts and opinions and answers only come from lvl 79 players who actually bypassed more than 1/2 the content to end-game or should it come from 4 year players who have actually interacted with the game?
I'd rather hear from a Lvl 61 player with experience than our typical glowing cheater (though I'll grant that statistically at least ONE of them has to have been legit--at some point).
Imo, Spud has answered thousands of posts with correct information, solid opinions, and in ways that in no way "flame" others. To suggest he "ONLY" criticizes and flames is not at all accurate.
I try to read all of his contributions here--and generally learn a lot from them too.
You have to admit, you're "what level are you....?" question sounds like the beginning of the same elitist B.S. that's been shared before. If Spud is 75 he doesn't have a valid argument but if he was 80 he would? Good lord, this OP is about the Olympiad! It's not like it's secret information withheld from all who aren't lvl 80!
The amount of times he has been flat out wrong about stuff, or just derailed it into "arguing semantics", makes most of the veteran players just laugh at him.
His recent addition of trying to craft an S grade fist weapon costing him 180mil just adds fuel to the fire.
I'd rather not ask him how to go about crafting weapons...
You see, Spud, you only really know how something works when you are part of it. That's why when you go to college or to a training school, you really aren't valuable until you actually get on the job and do the work and understand the problems and advantages. It's the way life works.
Sure Armie--if we're discussing Nuclear Physics or Brain Surgery.
This game has a finite information set that is widely available to players BEFORE they encounter it.
In the low 70's I haven't had S-80 armor on yet--but I'm willing to bet I can see the relative advantage and disadvantage of the choices I'll face before I get there.
If the discussion is Olympiad TACTICS--then perhaps you are correct. If the discussion is Olympiad MECHANICS, sorry--but anyone can figure those out.
I can't conduct Brain Surgery (though I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night) but if we're arguing over "how people feel about surgery" then my opinion is every bit as accurate as is the brain surgeon's.
Aw c'mon Pure! (lol). I don't know you, but you HAVE to admit that a massive % of the subclassed "uber" toons in the game simply botted and ebayed their way to end-game.
I mean, that's not a shock, right?
So should posts and opinions and answers only come from lvl 79 players who actually bypassed more than 1/2 the content to end-game or should it come from 4 year players who have actually interacted with the game?
I'd rather hear from a Lvl 61 player with experience than our typical glowing cheater (though I'll grant that statistically at least ONE of them has to have been legit--at some point).
Imo, Spud has answered thousands of posts with correct information, solid opinions, and in ways that in no way "flame" others. To suggest he "ONLY" criticizes and flames is not at all accurate.
I try to read all of his contributions here--and generally learn a lot from them too.
You have to admit, you're "what level are you....?" question sounds like the beginning of the same elitist B.S. that's been shared before. If Spud is 75 he doesn't have a valid argument but if he was 80 he would? Good lord, this OP is about the Olympiad! It's not like it's secret information withheld from all who aren't lvl 80!
Man your quick, I changed my post seconds after I posted. I agree with you about Spud. I read these forums everyday and most of what he posts have been good and helpful. But, they are just opinions. Guess I just didn't like getting flamed, ha.
This thread should have stopped with the first post. "Hey NC, theres a problem with Oly, go fix it." /end
Drakkos, what u say is not really so. Until you are actually competing in the Olympiads, know the ins and outs of everything, have to work with other clan members or other players that are working towards a single goal of achieving a hero and then failing or succeeding in doing so, all you are doing is speculating.
And some day when you are finally noble and go for the Olympiad, you can come to me and tell me I was right, that you really had no idea what you were talking about. <3
Drakkos, what u say is not really so. Until you are actually competing in the Olympiads, know the ins and outs of everything, have to work with other clan members or other players that are working towards a single goal of achieving a hero and then failing or succeeding in doing so, all you are doing is speculating.
And some day when you are finally noble and go for the Olympiad, you can come to me and tell me I was right, that you really had no idea what you were talking about. <3
You see, Spud, you only really know how something works when you are part of it. That's why when you go to college or to a training school, you really aren't valuable until you actually get on the job and do the work and understand the problems and advantages. It's the way life works.
As I said above, all the people who play this game casually, have no interest in PvP or PvP clans really have no point in posting about the Olympiad or whether it is broken or not or try to pretend to speak with authority about it.
So yes, if Spud was level 80 he would have a valid point... but ONLY if he were noble and had participated in the Olympics to see how the system works in practice.
You all just want another -- ANOTHER -- forum thread to piss and moan about B/C/E. You are hogging the show every single thread. Get a grip.
The amount of times he has been flat out wrong about stuff, or just derailed it into "arguing semantics", makes most of the veteran players just laugh at him.
His recent addition of trying to craft an S grade fist weapon costing him 180mil just adds fuel to the fire.
I'd rather not ask him how to go about crafting weapons...
Could this be the end of a wonderfull relationship??
Drakkos, what u say is not really so. Until you are actually competing in the Olympiads, know the ins and outs of everything, have to work with other clan members or other players that are working towards a single goal of achieving a hero and then failing or succeeding in doing so, all you are doing is speculating.
And some day when you are finally noble and go for the Olympiad, you can come to me and tell me I was right, that you really had no idea what you were talking about. <3
It would be hard for me to have "no idea what I am talking about" as I've never commented on the Olympiad, Armenua.
I'm not commenting on it now.
I'm making the general argument that you do not have to BE at some exhalted level to have a considered opinion. I'm not the President of the United States and never will be but I know the moron we have in charge is wrong in his economic fiasco approach and that he is doing great harm. Perhaps irreparable harm--and here I am with an opinion and I'm not even a politician! Hmm--how can that be?
You claim that the Olympiad is some horribly difficult and mystical and unknowable feature of the game reserved only for a brilliant few? Fine--you would know.
But if you're going to argue in the particular that somehow "no one else can know ANYTHING about the Oly" then I'm going to disagree.
Nuance? Sure. Details? Sure. You are correct--participants will know much more than others.
But again, this topic was whether the ******* starting times are bugged or not--which doesn't require noblesse to comment on for christs sakes!
I have never had a wonderful relationship with Spud. He is like the guy in D-grade trying to tell you why NM robes is good for A-grade healer lol.
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Spud...please don't hold back...tell us how you really feel :p
Is NM robes all that bad ?
actually i would have suggested to keep to your Clan Oath set, cause Blue makes heals more Potent. you dont need to use Balance life at that point. in fact i suggest only using Battle heal (not the major one) as it is better for emergency situations.
Joke around all you want guys, but when someone spends 170 mil to craft an S-grade fist wep, that only shows he doesnt know as much as he would like to think about this game.
And spud, had you been noble and participated in oly, you probably wouldnt have made the comments you made.
Maybe Spud could include a disclaimer?
*Disclaimer: This post includes the OPINIONS of Spudnik, which he is free to give out to everyone who has the energy to read them. They may be wrong or right, but remember to only view them as OPINIONS, not the cold hard truth.*
It would be hard for me to have "no idea what I am talking about" as I've never commented on the Olympiad, Armenua.
I'm not commenting on it now.
I'm making the general argument that you do not have to BE at some exhalted level to have a considered opinion. I'm not the President of the United States and never will be but I know the moron we have in charge is wrong in his economic fiasco approach and that he is doing great harm. Perhaps irreparable harm--and here I am with an opinion and I'm not even a politician! Hmm--how can that be?
You claim that the Olympiad is some horribly difficult and mystical and unknowable feature of the game reserved only for a brilliant few? Fine--you would know.
But if you're going to argue in the particular that somehow "no one else can know ANYTHING about the Oly" then I'm going to disagree.
Nuance? Sure. Details? Sure. You are correct--participants will know much more than others.
But again, this topic was whether the ******* starting times are bugged or not--which doesn't require noblesse to comment on for christs sakes!
Anyone can have an opinion. Yes, even u Drakkos <3. (Well, sigh, maybe you aren't allowed to express the political one you referenced, since you are obviously full of it and have no idea what u r talking about :D) I find it amusing and sometimes rather irritating that people who have no clue think their opinions are so valuable they have to post about a subject they have very little experience or information on.
All I'm saying is that sometimes you all assume things and base your opinions on faulty information, and that is generally because you haven't participated and have to clue as to what goes on and why/how/when points are fed. You assume that it is simplistic and broken. Just trying to tell you, it's not necessarily broken and it is definitely NOT simplistic. Intellectual assessment of information gleaned without experience isn't necessarily the way to go ^^
Joke around all you want guys, but when someone spends 170 mil to craft an S-grade fist wep, that only shows he doesnt know as much as he would like to think about this game.
And spud, had you been noble and participated in oly, you probably wouldnt have made the comments you made.
Maybe Spud could include a disclaimer?
*Disclaimer: This post includes the OPINIONS of Spudnik, which he is free to give out to everyone who has the energy to read them. They may be wrong or right, but remember to only view them as OPINIONS, not the cold hard truth.*
i spent that money cause i was lazy.
had i been noble and participated in the oly, i wouldnt be ME.
dont force your ******baggery on me. i am not you. i am me. i will do as i please.
as will you.
my opinion i stated, and - high level or not - it is MY opinion. regardless of play style, or amount of time spent in game.
i dont see how thats a bad disclaimer actually. its a forum for a reason. if it was simply here for accurate information it would be an HTML page created by NCsoft and not open to comment.
So, Spud hunnie, you are admitting you just post for attention in these threads, because you aren't really speaking from experience or knowledge based on that.... and just to derail things cuz you are just all that, right?
I think you have contributed a lot of good information into this forum... but in the areas that you have had experience, the "low level" stuff...as you describe it.. (lol) And when you express your opinion in "high level" stuff, you just derail things. yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but why post if it's a useless post and then get all emo cuz someone questions the validity?
Anyone can have an opinion. Yes, even u Drakkos <3. (Well, sigh, maybe you aren't allowed to express the political one you referenced, since you are obviously full of it and have no idea what u r talking about :D) I find it amusing and sometimes rather irritating that people who have no clue think their opinions are so valuable they have to post about a subject they have very little experience or information on.
All I'm saying is that sometimes you all assume things and base your opinions on faulty information, and that is generally because you haven't participated and have to clue as to what goes on and why/how/when points are fed. You assume that it is simplistic and broken. Just trying to tell you, it's not necessarily broken and it is definitely NOT simplistic. Intellectual assessment of information gleaned without experience isn't necessarily the way to go ^^
That's what I have to say about that!!!!!
i think oly should be 14% static exp loss with an actual death not this 1hp business, and that you can only fight clan mates.
that means nobody willing to loose will fight, and youll have to fight tagged.
does it really surprise you, armie, that people hate heros? that people think it to be a very broken system? i hate heros only because they look down their nose at everyone else. i couldnt care less how they got there. find me a hero that isnt abused by pvp clans, i'll show you a class nobody cares about.
bottom line here is only a few people care about your heros. those who do big 100 man pvp groups, and those who attempt to kill a world boss.
I'm sure part of his problem is with people running scripts on the turn in of seeds. Some people even have 3 toons at the turn in. Therefor not only can he not buy the seeds or turn them in. I guess he could do like i do and go for the lower seeds to make the compound mats but i don't believe Spud runs 5 accounts so he may be forced to buy the compound mats from the cheating scum that infest the servers.
I know you buy and turn in your seeds using a sundial but not all are like you :P
So, Spud hunnie, you are admitting you just post for attention in these threads, because you aren't really speaking from experience or knowledge based on that.... and just to derail things cuz you are just all that, right?
I think you have contributed a lot of good information into this forum... but in the areas that you have had experience, the "low level" stuff...as you describe it.. (lol) And when you express your opinion in "high level" stuff, you just derail things. yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but why post if it's a useless post and then get all emo cuz someone questions the validity?
no, i am admitting i made a post with my opinion.
who pays attention to it isnt any of my business.
and no, i dont derail threads. people who go emo on MY posts derail the threads.
people care what i say. so much so theyll go out of their way to post jabs at me in MULTIPLE other forums. take for example smitty who doesnt even play aria. he gets all bumhurt cause i payed a lot of money for a craft i failed. it wasnt his money. it isnt his character. i never asked anyone how to craft, i didnt buy his mats. i didnt waste his time. but on no less than 4 threads he has spouted bad things about me and my play style.
tbh i would have rather he called me a bot. at least bots are ignored.
you wouldnt tell Barack Obama his opinion on the Economy is wrong simply because he is black. everyone knew he had no experience going into the office, but he got there by winning the trust of the people that voted for him. his minority status wasnt a factor.
you would tell me my playstyle and my opinions are wrong simply due to my level ? why should my minority status affect my opinion? its just an opinion. smitty doesnt have to go all emo about my craft.
i know ive moved on.
as ive said before, like it or not, my opinion is simply an opinion. i havent said facts.
Ahh, so you are like the President, meaning that people voted you into a position that requires you to make important decisions about the way the country is run and how it interacts with the rest of the world? When was your election effective? I just didn't know about it; I'm sorry :(
As far as wasting money on crafts... Well, I feel that way too. Failed too many crafts after running around for stupid mats :) Now I just buy what I can when I can. Those s80 jewel crafts were only done cuz no one was selling them yet!! :D
So, Spud hunnie, you are admitting you just post for attention in these threads, because you aren't really speaking from experience or knowledge based on that.... and just to derail things cuz you are just all that, right?
I think you have contributed a lot of good information into this forum... but in the areas that you have had experience, the "low level" stuff...as you describe it.. (lol) And when you express your opinion in "high level" stuff, you just derail things. yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but why post if it's a useless post and then get all emo cuz someone questions the validity?
Lol..you mean like people that Bot there toons up to high level and then act like they know it all.
AND THIS IS NOT MEANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOU...we are friends and if i wanted to accuse you of botting i just simply would.
Ahh, so you are like the President, meaning that people voted you into a position that requires you to make important decisions about the way the country is run and how it interacts with the rest of the world? When was your election effective? I just didn't know about it; I'm sorry :(
As far as wasting money on crafts... Well, I feel that way too. Failed too many crafts after running around for stupid mats :) Now I just buy what I can when I can. Those s80 jewel crafts were only done cuz no one was selling them yet!! :D
i get it, you dont like the comparison.
well find me another important black person and i'll make the analogy again.
my point, as you seem to have missed is that disregarding an OPINION due to its giver is fascism.
what i tried to do was equate Fascism with Racism. i hoped you'd have understood.