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I think this question goes to Gms.

Clan leader of one of my friends got banned - dunno for what, but he was a clan leader of clan with shared CWH and some skills. So the question is: is it possible to change the leader somehow? Because my fried was a co-leader and wanna lead and improve this clan in future.

Thx for reply.
This has been a question that has been asked before, and the answer then was NO.

But if you like, you can always wait around for an official answer. :)
Yes, i'd like to (c)
I think this question goes to Gms.

Clan leader of one of my friends got banned - dunno for what, but he was a clan leader of clan with shared CWH and some skills. So the question is: is it possible to change the leader somehow? Because my fried was a co-leader and wanna lead and improve this clan in future.

Thx for reply.


start a new clan.
This has been a question that has been asked before, and the answer then was NO.

But if you like, you can always wait around for an official answer. :)

Actually, the answer is yes but you have to wait for a server merge to do it.
pm Flintster on Pheonix for more info.


There was a lot of rumours about that incident, you're friend probably won't be as "lucky" as Flint.
Did u write a support ticket? Just ask them, maybe they will change.
If you're lucky - you can even have free Baium Ring from HGM Spam (not joke).
But i'm not :(
Did u write a support ticket? Just ask them, maybe they will change.

I'm sure they will answer me like:

Your friend should make a ticket himself blabla. But he's bad in english so i better ask here.
well, just write him the ticket and he send it. ;)

We have clanmates who can't speak english, too. So we write tickets for them, and they send them.

But maybe u are lucky and Spam is in good moods ;)
But maybe u are lucky and Spam is in good moods ;)

Spam/Pommo in good mood only when they reading Exile tickets :)
I think this question goes to Gms.

Clan leader of one of my friends got banned - dunno for what, but he was a clan leader of clan with shared CWH and some skills. So the question is: is it possible to change the leader somehow? Because my fried was a co-leader and wanna lead and improve this clan in future.

Thx for reply.

been asked countless times and the answer has allways been no.
mhhh but wont be fair... if clanleader hurts EULA and get banned, why should other members suffer?
lol who cares? :)
erm.. well, maybe ur friend? ^^ lol
I mean GMs doesn't care.
mhhh but wont be fair... if clanleader hurts EULA and get banned, why should other members suffer?It's just like any other group or club. When one person does something wrong everyone in the group suffers. Went through this on Teon when I first started playing the Clan leader got banned and everything along with the clan was lost forever. My suggestion is to move on. Next time make sure the clan leader is legit.
It's just like any other group or club. When one person does something wrong everyone in the group suffers. Went through this on Teon when I first started playing the Clan leader got banned and everything along with the clan was lost forever. My suggestion is to move on. Next time make sure the clan leader is legit.

Well but how to know whether leader is legit? Why not allow two leaders?

Like in any other group or club? When the head of the club go prison or quit club, u elect a new one. ;)
seems like alot of these "friends" of yours have been getting unjustly banned recently.
seems like alot of these "friends" of yours have been getting unjustly banned recently.
That's exactly my thought too! local be a bit more careful please... :cool:
are we learning yet local or what?
seriously if you don't want to lose your crap stop rolling with the bad boys ><
are we learning yet local or what?
seriously if you don't want to lose your crap stop rolling with the bad boys ><

If you are too stupid - read first post again.
In second example leadership was transferred to another character with higher rank. And then spam tell he won't do this again. Does this mean Spam - corrupted GM? OR what? Why for some people he makes exceptions?

If you read what Spam said... he was left with little choice but to change the ownership in order to make sure the merge didn't have any problems. Spam did NOT say he gave the leadership away because it was requested.

Anyway, how do you define a corrupt GM? A corrupt GM would be someone who went around and gave stuff to people whom he/she favoured in return for something else.

If you don't like something in L2, love it or leave it. No-one's making you pay to play.
Local, don't ever become a doctor. You are great are ripping off band aids but it hurts.

The answer is no. We the GM team will never transfer the leadership of a clan ever again. Ever. If clan leadership is ever able to be transferred in the future, it will be done so by a system implemented by the developers. (Please understand that I am not saying the developers are working on a system like this. I am saying the developers will have to make a system to do this, if it is ever done again.)

You can read the other threads that were provided for your reasons. I will not argue why it will never be done.

As for what to compare a clan to: It is not a club or group. It is a company completely owned by the leader. If the leader is to disappear and had not transferred OWNERSHIP to someone else before his disappearance.... the company dies.
Pretty simple and clearly....ouch.
Local, don't ever become a doctor. You are great are ripping off band aids but it hurts.

The answer is no. We the GM team will never transfer the leadership of a clan ever again. Ever. If clan leadership is ever able to be transferred in the future, it will be done so by a system implemented by the developers. (Please understand that I am not saying the developers are working on a system like this. I am saying the developers will have to make a system to do this, if it is ever done again.)

You can read the other threads that were provided for your reasons. I will not argue why it will never be done.

As for what to compare a clan to: It is not a club or group. It is a company completely owned by the leader. If the leader is to disappear and had not transferred OWNERSHIP to someone else before his disappearance.... the company dies.

I believe this was implemented after flintster hired a lawyer to transfer leadership after frankee was banned. He got it done and got himself lots of nice epics from the clan warehouse. NC doesnt want to deal with that crap again so they threw down this rule. Its good this way.
As for what to compare a clan to: It is not a club or group. It is a company completely owned by the leader. If the leader is to disappear and had not transferred OWNERSHIP to someone else before his disappearance.... the company dies.

Well, but clanmembers work for clan, too. They pay in clan WH, offer their time for clanrep (doing aca chars)...
I can understand u wont normally transfer clan ownership, but if the leader will for sure never come back (ban), wouldn't be fair for clanmembers to vote a new one or something like this? Or at least give clan members the stuff from clan WH.
How anybody can be sure, clan leader plays legit?

Or maybe Omega or Kinslon are the guys to talk?
Anyway, how do you define a corrupt GM? A corrupt GM would be someone who went around and gave stuff to people whom he/she favoured in return for something else.

Exactly.
Local, don't ever become a doctor. You are great are ripping off band aids but it hurts.

The answer is no. We the GM team will never transfer the leadership of a clan ever again. Ever. If clan leadership is ever able to be transferred in the future, it will be done so by a system implemented by the developers. (Please understand that I am not saying the developers are working on a system like this. I am saying the developers will have to make a system to do this, if it is ever done again.)

You can read the other threads that were provided for your reasons. I will not argue why it will never be done.

As for what to compare a clan to: It is not a club or group. It is a company completely owned by the leader. If the leader is to disappear and had not transferred OWNERSHIP to someone else before his disappearance.... the company dies.

You reply 'NO' for all my questions so i'm not surprised. But thx anyway.
I believe this was implemented after flintster hired a lawyer to transfer leadership after frankee was banned. He got it done and got himself lots of nice epics from the clan warehouse. NC doesnt want to deal with that crap again so they threw down this rule. Its good this way.

Did you read this post by Spam?

http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=2691531&postcount=26
Exactly.

I really hope you are just trolling this forum.
I really hope you are just trolling this forum.

I'm not that kind of people :)
I'm not that kind of people :)

For my faith in mankind I will not belive that statement. :)
I think i don't care.
I think i don't care.

now that just hurts.
Local, you shouldnt ask here at the forum for statements..you know that you always will get bad answers on this kind of issues.
I got the answers. That topic could be closed.
And any future topics looking for the same answers to trivial questions should be closed as well.

There is a support system already in place to take care of stupid questions about people who break the rules. Don't waste the mods precious precious time with these. You never know, a coffee pot could burn while an NC employee is reading this thread... Or heaven forbid if the doughnuts go stale before they are eaten. Serious work to be done around here... Serious indeed
rofl.
And any future topics looking for the same answers to trivial questions should be closed as well.

There is a support system already in place to take care of stupid questions about people who break the rules. Don't waste the mods precious precious time with these. You never know, a coffee pot could burn while an NC employee is reading this thread... Or heaven forbid if the doughnuts go stale before they are eaten. Serious work to be done around here... Serious indeed
Kids shouldnt talk in serious threads as well too. So the question is "what are u doing here"?
I believe this was implemented after flintster hired a lawyer to transfer leadership after frankee was banned.


A lawyer was never hired - all that was some bad emo kid drama, but it failed because everyone poke holes in it.