Is it humanly possible to grind your main character from 1 to 84, do the subclass quest, grind an alternate character to 75, do the Noble quest and grind yet another alternate character to 75 in roughly a year?
1-84 approximately 15 Billion XP
1-75 approximately 2 Billion XP
1-75 approximately 2 Billion XP
I can’t even imagine the amount of time required daily to achieve such a monumental task. Does anyone know how to figure out the exact XP per hour/day to do this?
I don't know.. if you had top OE'd gear for every level, OOP buffers and played around 60 ours per week, maybe... I don't know.. I would think that you would go crazy before that happened.
Is it humanly possible to grind your main character from 1 to 84, do the subclass quest, grind an alternate character to 75, do the Noble quest and grind yet another alternate character to 75 in roughly a year?
1-84 approximately 15 Billion XP
1-75 approximately 2 Billion XP
1-75 approximately 2 Billion XP
I can’t even imagine the amount of time required daily to achieve such a monumental task. Does anyone know how to figure out the exact XP per hour/day to do this?
the exp alone part:
19 billion div 365 div 24 = 2 168 949 exp per hour for 365 consecutive days, 24 hrs a day.
if we say it takes 2 days to do the Noblesse quest, and 1 day each to do the 3rc alsss quests, we dont see a huge change in the numbers. approximately 2.5m exp per hour.
Well lets see. I have noble fever and a lagit player. I desided last year to finaly pick a main charater out of my 14 toons i have created. This past december i finaly got my main to lvl 75 and was able to compleate the sub quest the first week in january. Sence then i have been able to lvl as fast as i can (game play: 2.5 hours per day mon-thurs, friday 8 hours, sat-sun 10+- hours per day average around 35 hours per week.) ((dam i need a life)). Sence January i have lvled my main to lvl 76. I also have my sub at lvl 70 and 50% as of today. last weekend with vitality pots i played very hard: did 10 hours friday, 15 hours sat. and 15 hours sunday. I did get my vitality 4 for all day sunday and did go from lvl 66.0 to 69.5 that weekend in Hot Springs. I do not use OE weapons i cannot aford it so all my weapons are +3 and i also use a great wolf lvl 73 now. I also use my lvl 75 SE (that i lvled up with my main) on a serpate computer out of party for buffs and heals. from now on i am trying to make 1 lvl per 1.5-2 weeks time frame. So i am predicting that it should take me about 8 more weeks to get to lvl 75 on my sub. So a hard core sub should only take 5-6 months to make.
If you really want to do this calculation seriously, remember that how you exp is the most important thing. Solo exping or even with a buff box is not the most efficient way to do it, especially after level 60 or so.
Don't forget these additional conditions: You begin on a new server that has just opened, completely from scratch together with everyone else. No server transfers available for the first 8 months.
I can tell you this much: 1 - 76 around 200 game hours, 76 - 78 is around 80 more game hours. (tested by me, was helping a friend level a couple of chars while I was on my sabbatical from l2) (oh helping = me on my 2 buffers buffing him, not playing his accounts)
Now if you can get in a perfect lethal HB party at 78 you can make 40 m.exp/hour.
78-84 is roughly 14 billion exp so at 40m/hour that's another 350 game hours
350+80+200=630 ie about 4 months of playing 5 hours/day.
But obviously it's a math exercise ... Not reality. For example it presumes a perfect party with a good spot in arcana to exp in etc etc etc.
Don't forget that all game time is not exp time. You have to go to town for shots and supplies, you port, you run, you go pottie.
But really now, we seem to be pretty type A personalities here where all we care about is achieving some goal. L2 is great at presenting goals for the players to aspire to. However, I believe that the best FUN is game is from enjoying the Journey rather than achieving the goal.
This is another way that botted toon players totally miss the entire point. Botters are not only cheaters they are also idiots.
But a couple of more exp quests (like the pailaka series) wouldn't hurt ^^ I mean, if we could get boost quest for lvl 79 and 80 that would be awesome ^^
well.. i just dinged noble a couple of weeks ago, after playing for about 2.5yrs... its always nice to achieve your own goals.. i remember i first dreamed of reaching 70+.. then to sub, now noble... but dont get too fuzzy about it.. as long as you have fun, you'll reach them, even when at first they looked soo far away...
Don't forget these additional conditions: You begin on a new server that has just opened, completely from scratch together with everyone else. No server transfers available for the first 8 months.
It is impossible.
Well if this is the case, then it takes a situation that is already improbable and makes it impossible. It's improbable that you'd be able to get 1-84 in a year, even with high level (78+) oop buffers and OE'd gear all the way up. Maybe, if you already have high level friends that are willing to put you in AOE darkness groups or Tully's parties as soon as you're able, but we're assuming that all factors work out perfectly to the person's benefit and even at that, it's unlikely.
But if we're talking about a new server, you'd have to use same level buffers, you'd have to farm all your own gear, crafting everything from B-grade up, which would mean time taken away from xp to do that. No perfect high-level parties to join as soon as you're within 20 lvls, so you'd have to solo most of it, or at least party in a place appropriate to your level. Not to mention the cost of shots - on a new server high level gear would be rare and so the price of S-grade and possibly even A-grade crystals would be high. So not only are you trying to level yourself up astronomically fast but you're also trying to provide all the money you'd need to do it on a new server?
I don't think it's remotely possible, even if the person has no job or other responsibilities/friendships/family to take him away from the computer once in a while.
I might be a little ignorant about this... but isn't steel citadel inside hellbound? And don't you have to be 78 to even enter HB? So... how can you play in Steel Citadel if you are 76? It sounds pretty much impossible if I'm correct. But please, correct me if I'm wrong ^^
I may be wrong about this but I think there is some more difficult way to get HB access (doing quests and killing some RB) that you can do before 78. but again I may be wrong.
I might be a little ignorant about this... but isn't steel citadel inside hellbound? And don't you have to be 78 to even enter HB? So... how can you play in Steel Citadel if you are 76? It sounds pretty much impossible if I'm correct. But please, correct me if I'm wrong ^^
If your main is 78 you can enter yours subs regardless the lvl
edit: hmmmm, what if the sub is 78+ and the main is 76? can you enter then? i suppose all that matters is to be able to get the quest, right?
RumPunchDon't forget that all game time is not exp time. You have to go to town for shots and supplies, you port, you run, you go pottie.
But really now, we seem to be pretty type A personalities here where all we care about is achieving some goal. L2 is great at presenting goals for the players to aspire to. However, I believe that the best FUN is game is from enjoying the Journey rather than achieving the goal./
I'm with you. I prefer to lollygag around each level, test out new hunting grounds, try a few quests, meet the neighbors ..
But I don't usually get to cuz my partner is a hardcore get to next level kinda guy and i have to have my main try to keep up with him. But I usually keep a couple secret alts in reserve for doing things MY way.
I mean, its a game, right? Relaxation? Fun? Who needs more pressure?
In our clan the record for quickest is exp is probably someone who did 84-85 in less than a week with the creampuffs. Legit ofcourse
less than a week? should i say shut the **** up?
even if you play 24/7 it's impossible to make 1 lvl in less than a week.
At lvl 84 you can make max 6% each day( 24 hours of xp without stopping ) , with vitality lvl 2 let's say 12% daily. So what ur saying now LEGIT of course it's all lies.
dont reply like HEY YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LVL AND THINGS LIKE THAT
im abit higher than you , bd also ... so i know what im talking about
even if you play 24/7 it's impossible to make 1 lvl in less than a week.
At lvl 84 you can make max 6% each day( 24 hours of xp without stopping ) , with vitality lvl 2 let's say 12% daily. So what ur saying now LEGIT of course it's all lies.
dont reply like HEY YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LVL AND THINGS LIKE THAT
im abit higher than you , bd also ... so i know what im talking about
Im addicted to alts me and few of my friends with support and OK gear, you can get to 70's in a month pretty easy and we only play at night.
is true
and if we have already some mages well classed is better
I have at this moment 30 000+ exp/mob on my bishop lvl 68 plvl by a sps lvl 75 at HS... and w/o stress
20s plvled by 40+ 40s by 60s is rly fast: only after 75 is slow
so 1 month to go since 1 to 70 is possible
In our clan the record for quickest is exp is probably someone who did 84-85 in less than a week with the creampuffs. Legit ofcourse
humm very hard to believe but its possible with AOE mages and full party 24/24 :eek: :rolleyes: but... were you lvl? fog is too low; HB AOE mage ... we have done it on first mobs... is possible but mobs too low...
the only spot is citadel no AOE possible... no mages... and you need 24/24 hours there (no enemy too ...) = an ideal empty server were your party is the only one gl
humm very hard to believe but its possible with AOE mages and full party 24/24 :eek: :rolleyes: but... were you lvl? fog is too low; HB AOE mage ... we have done it on first mobs... is possible but mobs too low...
the only spot is citadel no AOE possible... no mages... and you need 24/24 hours there (no enemy too ...) = an ideal empty server were your party is the only one gl
The server doesn't need to be empty, you just have to lock everyone else out of HB.
84-85 in a week does sound extremely fast, but I wonder what one can do with a hoard of high level OOP Buffers there...
On PTS I have been able to do 2% a day at level 83 (and I was having fun, doing pvp and Fortresses, Oly, not really grinding), which equates to 0.5% per day on live (assumign patch notes are correct about x4 xp rate). Yes its certainly possible, though time consuming, to get 84 if you play for fun and relax or mess about a bit every day aside from lvling. If you XP in an AoE group on HB you could probably go 83-84 quite quick. I have no idea about 85.
if you were brave enough to do it, MOS, and Imperial Tomb are both higher lvl spots,
Personally Ive never lvled there so I dont know exactly how hard it would be to solo, I do know that at lvl 76 I can solo the front room of Imperial tomb solo.
On PTS I have been able to do 2% a day at level 83 (and I was having fun, doing pvp and Fortresses, Oly, not really grinding), which equates to 0.5% per day on live (assumign patch notes are correct about x4 xp rate). Yes its certainly possible, though time consuming, to get 84 if you play for fun and relax or mess about a bit every day aside from lvling. If you XP in an AoE group on HB you could probably go 83-84 quite quick. I have no idea about 85.
In pts you get 3x xp, so with vitality 4 = x 9 xp than with vitality 0 in normal server, and you were alone, so in hellbound with a full team i dont think than you get same xp for every mob than in pts, but 2% every day in normal server in level 83 is possible if you play 6 hours every day in hellbound with good party :)
if you were brave enough to do it, MOS, and Imperial Tomb are both higher lvl spots,
basically the whole world goes blue at 82 except IOP and HB so if you want to get decent xp at 84 you have to be in a HB group
not sure if i would believe 84-85 in a week since the average dagger party doesn't get much more xp than i do so unless we are talking about a mass of OOP support for one guy i wouldn't see it done in less than a week and a half
if you were brave enough to do it, MOS, and Imperial Tomb are both higher lvl spots,
Personally Ive never lvled there so I dont know exactly how hard it would be to solo, I do know that at lvl 76 I can solo the front room of Imperial tomb solo.
Mos/Pagan/IT are all 78 lvl mobs ie blue at 82.
Only places you can xp at 82+ are IOP or HB, IOP doesn't give more than 7-8m xp/hour, HB can give way more but you need a number of +++lethal daggers in party. Which means sharing event drops which makes the whole story of legit 84-85 in less than a week doubtful.
even if you play 24/7 it's impossible to make 1 lvl in less than a week.
At lvl 84 you can make max 6% each day( 24 hours of xp without stopping ) , with vitality lvl 2 let's say 12% daily. So what ur saying now LEGIT of course it's all lies.
dont reply like HEY YOU DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LVL AND THINGS LIKE THAT
im abit higher than you , bd also ... so i know what im talking about
you clearly have no idea just how much xp you can get at 78+ in good parties.
for mages: fog is easilly aoe'd by 3 people in party (mage, bishop, and ee), you make 1% every 1.3 hours at 81 at the bugs (no vitality.) Also, dino is the same thing, better, needs a tank, mobs aren't blue at 82. (I can kill dino pulls solo too.)
for everyone else: tullys is pretty much insane xp for a full party (with good gear and good lethal skill OEs), or if you have the right gear, poling chimeras.
getting to 83+ legit is easilly faster than botting it, unless you have insane gear and can bot in tullys lvl 6.