I play a destroyer and I have 3 main attack skills, hammer crush, fatal strike, and crush of doom. HC and FS both have 3 second cooldowns and CoD has a 6 second cooldown now.
Well I went sword with focus for auto attack crits, but now that the skill cooldowns are so short I can literally fire my 3 attacks without ever waiting a split second for a cooldown. By the time I fire my 3rd skill the first 2 are already cooled down and by the time I have 1 and 2 fired off skill 3 is already cooled down.
So basically I can fire skill after skill after skill without ever having to auto attack. However my skills cant crit no matter what, making using a sword with focus absolutely pointless.
I dont really have MP issues either since crush of doom costs 0 MP to use. The only time I would run into MP issues is fighting a raid boss where I am firing skill after skill for a sustained amount of time. But I dont do RB's much so its pretty situational for me.
What do you guys think about this? Whats the point of even having cooldowns on my attacks now that I literally never have to wait a split second to fire them off anymore? Whats the point of having any crit at all on my destroyer?
I think you should get my skill cool down nerf (summoner class), our ud is a static 10 minutes now, which really kills end game pve since we rely on it so much (since summons have at most 700 pdef). Our level 78 skill arcane agility no longer reduces skill reuse so it is essentially a useless skill, as you now have to wait a second between any other spell we have to cast making the casting speed bonus pointless. Unlike other classes, we don't have skills to chain, just HEAL. Also, our servitors have a huge reuse for all their skills as well.
I think you should get my skill cool down nerf (summoner class), our ud is a static 10 minutes now, which really kills end game pve since we rely on it so much (since summons have at most 700 pdef). Our level 78 skill arcane agility no longer reduces skill reuse so it is essentially a useless skill, as you now have to wait a second between any other spell we have to cast making the casting speed bonus pointless. Unlike other classes, we don't have skills to chain, just HEAL. Also, our servitors have a huge reuse for all their skills as well.
wtt with you :(
lol wow....they thought if they made ps's deathstrikes reuse time basicaly 0 that theyll think we'd over look this...? @_@
Its worse for an ES; merrow is AoE nuker and can't even do that effectively now... and if I wanted to melee with him I'd be much better off with a wolf because they have faster attack rate and more p attk.
I play a destroyer and I have 3 main attack skills, hammer crush, fatal strike, and crush of doom. HC and FS both have 3 second cooldowns and CoD has a 6 second cooldown now.
Well I went sword with focus for auto attack crits, but now that the skill cooldowns are so short I can literally fire my 3 attacks without ever waiting a split second for a cooldown. By the time I fire my 3rd skill the first 2 are already cooled down and by the time I have 1 and 2 fired off skill 3 is already cooled down.
So basically I can fire skill after skill after skill without ever having to auto attack. However my skills cant crit no matter what, making using a sword with focus absolutely pointless.
I dont really have MP issues either since crush of doom costs 0 MP to use. The only time I would run into MP issues is fighting a raid boss where I am firing skill after skill for a sustained amount of time. But I dont do RB's much so its pretty situational for me.
What do you guys think about this? Whats the point of even having cooldowns on my attacks now that I literally never have to wait a split second to fire them off anymore? Whats the point of having any crit at all on my destroyer?
Well I do not know where you exp, but in places like HB, IT or pagan spamming skills will not be delivering damage fast enough. The only damage skill the destro has that delivers reasonable damage(talking 2-handers now) is crush of doom, everything else is simply LOL. Maybe if you exp on 1xHP, herb dropping mobs you can kill them with 3-4 skills, but on 4x-6x HP mobs you would:
1. run OOM pretty fast while doing laughable damage
2. probably die since you will not VR back any HP because of the skill spamage
Your skills cannot crit so using a focus sword is pointless? Who told you that focus affects crit rate of skills? :)
Fully buffed crits of a destro hurt much more than his skills, that is a fact. The only time you should be using skills is when you PvP since the hit is guaranteed. Even then you would probably do more damage just swinging on the player. Try to get focus/death whisper and a BD with dance of fire, maybe even a SWS with song of hunter. Try to hund 10 minutes with skills only and other 10 minutes with normal hits only. I would bet my left nut that you will not ever, EVER think about PvEing with skills :)
I have an almost lvl 80 titan btw, so I'm not just a theory warrior.
I think you should get my skill cool down nerf (summoner class), our ud is a static 10 minutes now, which really kills end game pve since we rely on it so much (since summons have at most 700 pdef). Our level 78 skill arcane agility no longer reduces skill reuse so it is essentially a useless skill, as you now have to wait a second between any other spell we have to cast making the casting speed bonus pointless. Unlike other classes, we don't have skills to chain, just HEAL. Also, our servitors have a huge reuse for all their skills as well.
wtt with you :(
lol i mean its cool that i never have to wait for crush of doom anymore, i can fire it on every single mob i fight now without having to wait 20 seconds for the cooldown.
but really, its completely ridiculous and incredibly stupid that ncsoft would do this. im in a killing machine now and this change is so stupid i actually want it to go back to how it was.
lol i mean its cool that i never have to wait for crush of doom anymore, i can fire it on every single mob i fight now without having to wait 20 seconds for the cooldown.
but really, its completely ridiculous and incredibly stupid that ncsoft would do this. im in a killing machine now and this change is so stupid i actually want it to go back to how it was.
wow green gotta be ncsofts fav color....O.o... they got the best buffers and the ultimate killing machines..: o
Well I do not know where you exp, but in places like HB, IT or pagan spamming skills will not be delivering damage fast enough. The only damage skill the destro has that delivers reasonable damage(talking 2-handers now) is crush of doom, everything else is simply LOL. Maybe if you exp on 1xHP, herb dropping mobs you can kill them with 3-4 skills, but on 4x-6x HP mobs you would:
1. run OOM pretty fast while doing laughable damage
2. probably die since you will not VR back any HP because of the skill spamage
Your skills cannot crit so using a focus sword is pointless? Who told you that focus affects crit rate of skills? :)
Fully buffed crits of a destro hurt much more than his skills, that is a fact. The only time you should be using skills is when you PvP since the hit is guaranteed. Even then you would probably do more damage just swinging on the player. Try to get focus/death whisper and a BD with dance of fire, maybe even a SWS with song of hunter. Try to hund 10 minutes with skills only and other 10 minutes with normal hits only. I would bet my left nut that you will not ever, EVER think about PvEing with skills :)
I have an almost lvl 80 titan btw, so I'm not just a theory warrior.
Thank you for the reply :). I am currently hunting at garden of beasts and I almost 1 shot the mobs with crush of doom.
I am still learning about how to be a high level destroyer, would you recommend for S grade a heavens divider with focus or a dragon hunter axe with health?
Thank you for the reply :). I am currently hunting at garden of beasts and I almost 1 shot the mobs with crush of doom.
I am still learning about how to be a high level destroyer, would you recommend for S grade a heavens divider with focus or a dragon hunter axe with health?
Totally go HD with focus. That is the best option imo. GoB is sorta easy. I also use CoD in IoP all the time since it almost 1-shots the mobs there, but that is about it. When I am fully buffed I do much more damage with regular attacks. What is the CD on CoD again? 6 seconds? In those 6 seconds I hit about 5-6 times of which 2 would be probably crits. Those two crits alone make more damage that your chain of 3 skills :)
Imo try to get a WC/BD and you will see for yourself.