Bonus time and free activation is neat and all...

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but if you really want people to come back and stay you are going to have to do a little more work then just flip a switch that made the game f2p for a week.

It is an impossible task for a new or returning player to catch up with current high levels without resorting to botting or being power leveled. You could very easily make the game more appealing with a few simple changes:

1. Vitality resets to lvl 4 after every server maintenance

2. Vitality isn't penalized at 76 and 79+. At the very least those penalties
shouldn't be kicking in until at least 80 (so we can catch up!)

3. Add the nc coin items to the game. They were the bulk of the part 2 update and it's embarrassingly bad that we don't have them. If you don't have the support to add the cash shop itself, then add them in via events or have them available for purchase with adena from the dimensional merchant. Some of those items would really help out players and encourage them to stay, others are just plain fun to have.

4. Add the net cafe instant dungeons

5. If you are going to ignore 3, at the very least give us MY TELEPORT flags. The game world is way too big and it's rather tedious just to move from place to place, that's why korea added them in the first place. Stop inconveniencing us unnecessarily.


Event changes.
You guys have been doing all right lately but then again, it's just that this is the part of your normal cycle that has the events we love (the bunnies for example). You guys have fallen flatt on your face with the gracia main event. While many of us did enjoy the letter collecting in the past, you seemed to have missed the point on why we enjoyed it. Things like buff juices are low tier prizes, and they belong on the low tier word or not there at all. Giving me 3 buff juices for turning in 5 years doesn't make me any happier then when you give me 1 juice for turning in l2. In fact it makes me madder, and I know I'm not alone in this.

Events should exist to help break up the grind, help players advance, and to reward them for participating. When you have player selling their letters, that is a failure on your part and it shows the event prizes are considered extremely poor. Sure there are players, level 80+ with billions who can afford to buy 1,000 II's to get that boss jewel, but the average player knows that the odds are stacked way too much against them.

Continuing on with this event, out of the 25+ different character hats in the game files, you continue to bring out hats available from the auction manager and hats already handed out in previous events. A much better option would of been to have each word give out a different set of hats. As superficial and ultimately insignificant as a hat is, people would save their letters for something like that. It's new, it's "unique", and it isn't game breaking. Instead you opted for hats introduced in c5 on all three word options.

Furthermore, this event is what many of us consider low class. It's the kind of event we should be getting every odd month or so, just some random event to have fun with and pass the time. This is not an event made for the biggest update the game has ever had on it's 5th year anniversary. Core and orfen boss jewels? Are you serious? Those weren't desirable even when they were brand new. Have you ever seen a player complain about the farmers or major server powers keeping them locked out of the core or orfen spawn? No. Can you guess why? Very few people care about those jewels. Jewelry augmentation essentially made what little usefulness they had obsolete. When Korea released gracia, it was a huge deal. There were multiple events with such awe-inspiring prizes as s80+ gears.

I know this is going to come off sounding like some baseless fallacy but I've gotta ask: does the nc staff particularly hate their l2 player base or are you guys just that so much out of touch with the game you run?
There are no nccoins in Lineage2, there are no ncoin items, not here, not in korea not anywhere.

The only L2 that has paid items is Russian ... but I think it's enchants and soulshots and that kinda crap
A agree with all four points.

Especially the one about higher lvl Vitality... The latest update is makign S80 equipment easier to obtain than S grade. Give us more chance to get 80 before we reach 80 years of age :P

NCcoin - Yes agree. Works 100% in EVE Online to be able to buy stuff ingame from the dimension merchant, why not here.
There are no nccoins in Lineage2, there are no ncoin items, not here, not in korea not anywhere.

The only L2 that has paid items is Russian ... but I think it's enchants and soulshots and that kinda crap
I won't argue with you on that. Either way, we could use those items that were introduced in whatever manner they were that we clearly didn't get in part 2 or part 3.
I won't argue with you on that. Either way, we could use those items that were introduced in whatever manner they were that we clearly didn't get in part 2 or part 3.

It's difficult to be made to work for us. Koreans have x Hour timecards, X days timecards and are one small geographic area.

The bonus items come with the more expensive timecards. For example if you buy a 6 month time card you get 0 items. If you buy a 21hour timecard you get 7 bonus items. (21 hour = you can be in game for 21 hours in a month)

That kind of thing is impossible to implement for us cause a) timecards, even normal ones are impossible to find, b) we mostly use credit cards to pay for our subscriptions and c) we 're so spread out geographically ... we got NA accounts, Euro accounts ... imagine trying to get 10 different types of timecards to every country where people play from.

But I do agree they should add maybe an even that rewards some of the bonus items. Just for completeness ... not cause my teleport will make your game easier, it's not unlimited reuse anyways ;)
5. If you are going to ignore 3, at the very least give us MY TELEPORT flags. The game world is way too big and it's rather tedious just to move from place to place, that's why korea added them in the first place. Stop inconveniencing us unnecessarily.

Are you kidding me? Hard to get around? You can port practically anywhere you want, almost any hunting area you want, any dungeon you want, etc. You can port from one town all the way to another on the other side of the map w/o having to hop from town to town to town. We have WW+SongOfWind+Dex tats+set bonuses+striders+rideable wolves to help us run faster. AND we have SOE/BSOE/PR! We even have SOE to specific towns and places (fort, castle, ch).

I only played WoW for a short time but I found that game ridiculously hard to get around. That was one of the main reasons I decided not to play it - because L2 had spoiled me so much w/ how easy it is to get around. In WoW, I had to run everywhere and I ran so slow! Now, maybe there were teleporters or WW buffs or SOEs (I wish) or something I didn't know about - but then again, I was a newb and we are talking about new players here. New players in this game start out the game w/ free SOEs to town and Kamael village. They get free ports anywhere in Aden till level 40. And they get free WW buff until 61.

I'm not saying My Teleports wouldn't be cool, but I think you are going way over the top to say that it's tedious to do ONE CLICK to port from Rune to Giran or to say they're inconvieniencing us.
Are you kidding me? Hard to get around? You can port practically anywhere you want, almost any hunting area you want, any dungeon you want, etc. You can port from one town all the way to another on the other side of the map w/o having to hop from town to town to town. We have WW+SongOfWind+Dex tats+set bonuses+striders+rideable wolves to help us run faster. AND we have SOE/BSOE/PR! We even have SOE to specific towns and places (fort, castle, ch).

I only played WoW for a short time but I found that game ridiculously hard to get around. That was one of the main reasons I decided not to play it - because L2 had spoiled me so much w/ how easy it is to get around. In WoW, I had to run everywhere and I ran so slow! Now, maybe there were teleporters or WW buffs or SOEs (I wish) or something I didn't know about - but then again, I was a newb and we are talking about new players here. New players in this game start out the game w/ free SOEs to town and Kamael village. They get free ports anywhere in Aden till level 40. And they get free WW buff until 61.

I'm not saying My Teleports wouldn't be cool, but I think you are going way over the top to say that it's tedious to do ONE CLICK to port from Rune to Giran or to say they're inconvieniencing us.

Actually it is tedious especially if your not a noble. Try going to Forge of God not being a noble :) With all the time wasted walking you could be leveling and not having your tumbs up ur bums complaining about why its hard to level in L2.
SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT NCCOINS.

Just admit you're an ebayer looking for an excuse and go play hello kitty online. Seriously.
SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT NCCOINS.

Just admit you're an ebayer looking for an excuse and go play hello kitty online. Seriously.

IM sorry but that aculluy made me LOL

I can see the use in the My Teleports IF (and i said if) they only lasted for a certain amount of time

say you and your party are on TOI 10th (a ***** of a run imo since they took away TOI teleports from Preists), you need to restock you plant a flag, soe restock port back and your flag disappears.

a more interesting suggetion to the MyFlags is make them disappear when you port back to it AND make it disappear after say 2 hrs. that would prevent people from using it to get to hard to get places all the time (like DVC Heart, the bottom of FOG, 4 Spelcutrs (sp?) ect).

As for the NcCoins, I have no clue about them, but I do think that we need some way to get the bonus Items, like the (and only an example) the Purple mane horse, either as an event reward, quest reward ect. there is so much that Euro and Korean servers have that NA doesnt and honestly its Not really fair.

as for the NetCafe instances. I dont know how that would work because in NA you can play from home. Im not 100% sure but from what Ive heard in Greece you can only play Online games from a Net Cafe. hence the NetCafe instances.
SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT NCCOINS.

Just admit you're an ebayer looking for an excuse and go play hello kitty online. Seriously.

Another quality post on a quality forum. It's no wonder why this game is doing so poorly. Not only does the company that is responcible for it neglect it, but a large chunk of the community, especially on the official forums, are composed of a bunch of irrationally angry people that will verbally attack someone actually trying to make the game a better place. Out of my very long post people continue to point out one minor mistake that doesn't make any difference what so ever. NCCOIN, no NCCOIN, the fact is we do not have a huge amount of PERKS that make the game more enjoyable that were suppose to have been put in half a year ago. So tell me MR. ANGRY PERSON TYPING IN THE CAPS, what exactly does the vitamin seller sell in korea? Ncsoft went through the trouble of giving him/her a map icon in each town, do you seriously think that in korea it says the same inane things as it does here? "Check back later for awesome items". Protip: IT DOESN'T.