Only some days has passed and still some weird "bugs" suround us with the new update, i know i know we are all focused on gracia final but we already got some info on the next update! Yes you have read right! Not even 2 days passed for us here and in korea they are almost finishing a new update :D Here are a few things that the development team in Korea is intending for the future:
The difficulty of the 3rd Class Change quests will be reduced. There will be no buyable shortcut like with the 2nd Class Change though.
Isle of Prayer will become a Noblesse teleport.
There are new activities planned for the underwater instances (Emerald, Steam etc.) on the Isle of Prayer.
By an adjustment of INT and WIT, healing skills will be improved and healers made more wanted in groups.
Healers will get better Dynasty set bonuses, with improved healing ablities.
Kamael will get more diversified looking armors in A-Grade and above.
the first sign of the next update..nothing special though:
So far NCKorea only revealed that in the new update it will be made easier to level your character (looking forward to this). As soon as more becomes known, Lets us all post it here to discuss the new expension ;)
I hope some new armors and weapons in all grades get added. New style of armor, also for the lower grade ones. Since this is called "Plus" this add-on should give us also more options to our creation screens..like Aion has. Difrent hair styles and faces and so on. Love for the detail is important.
Huu they are fast but i cant read that links :((
Hate to rain on your parade but it has been 6+ months since gracia final was released. This update is coming out extremely slow :X
my guess is lvl 5 vitality for ppl logged out more than 3 months or a new area which gives 5% more xp but is only possible in a stacked group so 90% of the classes in game cant go there
my guess is lvl 5 vitality for ppl logged out more than 3 months or a new area which gives 5% more xp but is only possible in a stacked group so 90% of the classes in game cant go there
Maybe more Plaika quests? New quests which are worth doing also in higher lvl? worth doing in xp/sp? maybe quests which gives you back maximum vit lvl like the palaika quests? Maybe that just all mobs give more xp. No more killing 3-4 mobs for 0.01%...I hope this changes.
I hope so, Honestly I like doing quest IF (and I said IF) They are worth doing.
The adena based quests on Gracia are eh ok but for being the "difficulty" of the area (Meaning no buffers unless you lvl one to lvl 75 and leave them on the base No healers/no rechargers, While In Flight mode) the Collection quests should have a way better payout.
anyway, a thought I had was to allow Main and all subs to do the Palika just only the first time though you get the Item reward, consecative times (Up to 3, since you can have 3 subs and it prevents farming it) you can get Adena.
anyway Back on topic:
I wonder what it will be... Longer lasting Vit herbs, Vit Herbs that Acully do something O.o (yes during LVL 2 regen it seems that the Vit herb dont do anything at all lol), an Aggy that has Vit buff (1 hr buff) O.o ok im dreaming....
Well probably they will just add 1 or 2 lvl more of vitality. That will do the job. Or just add more time of each vit lvl you have since they vanish just way to fast.
Maybe Prophets will finally get a Party buff toggle that highers mp consumption but allows to buff a whole party! That's what I miss when I play my Alt PP :P All buffers get good stuff except the PP that never gets <3
Ups! I wanted to post that link..but i pasted a wrong one >.<
Fixed!
**NEWS UPDATE** Since NCSoft announced that they will make it easier to level your character, humors tell that the xp will be ~ 4x xp like full vitality + our current vitality from 1 to 4.
4x sounds so unreasonable that you can shoot me but I won't buy this :) This sounds so so so badly that my brains can't even process words: NCsoft - lineage2 - 4x rate at the same time.
It's been the same xp grind, if not worse, for 5 years. People still come to play.
well alot of people dont join as the see there is no point to join. " no way to catch up " in levels, for anyone that is a casual player.
I will not hold my breath over the xp thing but I really hope its something good.
**NEWS UPDATE** Since NCSoft announced that they will make it easier to level your character, humors tell that the xp will be ~ 4x xp like full vitality + our current vitality from 1 to 4.
wich end did you pull this from :D
**NEWS UPDATE** Since NCSoft announced that they will make it easier to level your character, humors tell that the xp will be ~ 4x xp like full vitality + our current vitality from 1 to 4.The funny thing about this is that the grind is still mind shattering insane for all but the best exp spots even at 4x rates when you are 78+.
The funny thing about this is that the grind is still mind shattering insane for all but the best exp spots even at 4x rates when you are 78+.
But it would sky rocket people to 78+ were they could start to enjoy many aspects of the game. What ever kind of player you are in L2 i say it would be a good thing for the game.
More 79+ players would mean that they also would like to explore secrets of dungeons. They would join clans, creat constants etc... I think it would make game just better. Any1 who never been on new gracia instances misses so MUCH! I think will make even more such instances for high lvl players. Those instances are just awsome! They're challenging and interesting to do(even if you fail), not like current epic raids(valakas, antharas.. If you can't succed it w/ 1 party bring 2 parties, if still it's not enough bring 3 etc). 4x rate wouldn't change much apart from more high lvl players which is good for this game!
However as I said I don't think NC will make 4x rates... That just simply can't be true.
EDIT: also this would be good for not power clans! because as it is atm we're missing support so much!!! Even though we can make 4-5 parties but that's all from 3 clans in ally. Others ussually are w/o enough support to go... As it is now every decent support class ends up in one of the powers clans because they're missing support as well so not very much good support left for other clans.
Lets all be honest even if you are hardcore the grind in lineage is insane. this isn't about hardcore VS casual it's about people that bot and don't bot
Even being "hardcore" your not gonna get very far especially 76+ without cheating
yes I know. I don't expect to hit lvl 80 the next 2-3 years
Oh yes >.< I was sorting out old screenies yesterday, I found one from when I dinged 79. That was November 22nd, 2007 - now I am 61% on 79...
Guess that had mainly to do with that nobody needed a SE the last few expansions (and that I lvld up my 2nd sub SD to 79 instead), but still the grind for a non-botter is quite insane at 79+. You need a regular party, or it's game over. I tried solo inquisitor again today on iop, and managed to get about 0.15% in one hour (yay for no mp herbs). Anybody need SE on Phoenix? :D
Oh yes >.< I was sorting out old screenies yesterday, I found one from when I dinged 79. That was November 22nd, 2007 - now I am 61% on 79...
Grats ... 79 in 2007 is a seriously hardcore achievement. To do that before vitality, before raised XP rates in general, before being able to completely ROCKET from 1-62 with newbie buffs and Kamaloka...
Of course I did a similar thing. I was at the level cap back when it was 75. But then I had a year+ hiatus from the game and when I came back, everyone had caught up and then some. Even today I'm still only 78. Actually it's sorta irritating that I soloed for 3 years (as in, SOLOED, without even any buffs!) the entire way 1-75 when XP was so so slow, taking full 4% deaths and without any recharges, heals or buffs ... and now ppl can do that same process in a matter of months.
It's deceptive though. People say "oh, if you make it easier to level, casual players will have more of a chance". That's simply not true. If you make it easier to level, it is easier to level for ~everyone~, including the hardcore players. Sure you might catch up to where they are now more quickly. But by that time, they'll be X hours even further ahead in the grind. So easier leveling doesn't level the playing field much at all.
What it DOES do though is allows more people access to the high end areas (Gracia seeds, Hellbound). Which means that more progress will be made to being able to put together a force that can take down Beleth, Ekimus etc. And S80+ gear will become more commonplace as more people farm those quests. It's basically a way for NC to "open up" the game world a little quicker than is happening now (realistically as it stands now, 95% of players will never see the deeper areas of Hellbound).
increasing exp rates won't change a thing.
the harcore players will play like they used to so 85 in no time (depends how they change it ofc)
the casual gamer will perhaps reach 80+ but will never ever enjoy the high end content because they basicly never show any patience/commitment to create, wait and organize the parties that are needed to go at certain places. instead they will complain about the fact that there aren't enouph solo spots.
call me crazy but i am one of those who really enjoyed the hardcore grind of this game.
i did reach lvl 80. YES it was freaking insane hard grind, YES it took me years but me and my brother made it!
but all these newbie stuff, vit bars,common weapons, etc etc is making lineage a joke.
if i remember well i read once years ago that the developer said that being top lvl ISNT supposed to be for everyone. only small dedicated ammount of players were supposed to get/be top of their server and i really liked that way of thinking. unfortunatly western people and their eager to get everything here and now can't cope with this idea. hence all the problems like we know them these days.
one thing is sure increasing the exp speed won't solve anything, au contraire it will only make the market even more expensive/unstable then it is today and with it create a whole bunch of new problems.... think about it...
all i want is a game where you can seperate the men from the boys in a mather of speaking :). not a game where everything is served on a golden plate...
You need serious help then, good bye! go download a free to play grinder then if you're so amused with mindless repitetion
LOL I don't play more than 3-4 hours a day if I got time and grinding isn't all about repitetion.
Do you grind the same way in a Necro/Cata as you do in HS or IT or Gracia or FoG etc etc? Do you grind the same way if you solo, are in a nuker party, in an archer party, in a melee party, in a tank party?
Do you grind the same way as an archer, nuker, dagger, gladi, warlord, summoner, healer, buffer...etc etc etc?
if your answer is yes to all of these then you should try to download the real L2 client instead of just hitting 1 button and watch your character play it self.
Lets all be honest even if you are hardcore the grind in lineage is insane. this isn't about hardcore VS casual it's about people that bot and don't bot
Even being "hardcore" your not gonna get very far especially 76+ without cheating
Erm what? Excuse me, but don't make such an absurd generalisasion as that. You might have a point if you said 83+, but you said 76+.
I know a massive number of legit 76+'s including myself who have been playing a very long time (longer than me). I concider myself as an "ADHD-Gamer". I play a game solid for 3 months or more, then quit and goto another game. I've been playing L2 on and off for a few years and its really not that hard to get 76 if you play with % targets every day (eg. before Vit, 5% was my target per day @ lvl 75). When I reached 76 I quit, and when I restarted recently with Vit was able to get 77 within 3 weeks. Whats the point of saying all that? I strongly disagee with your comment about not being able to get 76+ without "cheating". Its simply absurd.
Next update they are tweaking the Seven Signs quest. The scene of Anakhim coming down to the world is from the Seven Signs story, from the time when Einhasad sent her to deliver a message to the people.
But it would sky rocket people to 78+ were they could start to enjoy many aspects of the game. What ever kind of player you are in L2 i say it would be a good thing for the game.
This would of been true a year ago. Now level 78/79 can not compete with everyone lvl 80+. I should know, I was 78 in c4, 79 in ct1... and still 79 now. In c4, oh man my character considered godly. I was winning hero and everything (no feeding, i was the imba point enforcer) Even in ct1 it could hang with the big dogs, but now I get absolutely destroyed by any class in s80 or has the 81 and higher skills. There just isn't any comparison. It's like an s grader picking on a b grader.
I'm sure a lot of people on this forum who have been 76 or lower for years would love to be boosted to 78 or 79... but they just don't realize how far behind the times they really are. 79 is nothing now, as far as end game pve and pvp is concerned. Even if you just pve, you need that s80 with attribute enchants to survive in the seeds and deeper parts of hell bound with few exceptions.
This game, it's insane xp curve, freaking buff driven nature, unholy gear costs, and profound level differences are brutal, make no mistake. Deal with it or don't play it. Get in clan with people your level and pvp only with people your level is the best way to stay sane. It may take some time to find your niche but try not to dwell on what you can't have if you want to enjoy your time here.
the heling "easier to lvl" will be after 76+ where your vit is going out slower and you can take more advantage of it. That means only 76+ players will have the benefit for "easier lvling" and not after all, all ranged lvls. Also special 80+ hunting ground has been added for faster and better lvling since there are no big lvling grounds for 80+
the heling "easier to lvl" will be after 76+ where your vit is going out slower and you can take more advantage of it.
I think they are just removing the current decrease in vit effectivity for S-grade.
And most casual players in Korea are already S-graders, as it is not that hard to level to 76 in the current game.
It's basically a way for NC to "open up" the game world a little quicker than is happening now (realistically as it stands now, 95% of players will never see the deeper areas of Hellbound).
They already screwed that up enough by making the quest to get into HB a 5 min one after people wasted a lot of energy into doing baylor instances + HB leveling >_> Everytime i see the large amounts of random noobs and botters in HB i feel like cutting myself. Anyways 1 room before Beleth all you get to see is an elpy 95% of the server can go to talking island for that :P
increasing exp rates won't change a thing.
the harcore players will play like they used to so 85 in no time (depends how they change it ofc)
the casual gamer will perhaps reach 80+ but will never ever enjoy the high end content because they basicly never show any patience/commitment to create, wait and organize the parties that are needed to go at certain places. instead they will complain about the fact that there aren't enouph solo spots.
call me crazy but i am one of those who really enjoyed the hardcore grind of this game.
i did reach lvl 80. YES it was freaking insane hard grind, YES it took me years but me and my brother made it!
but all these newbie stuff, vit bars,common weapons, etc etc is making lineage a joke.
if i remember well i read once years ago that the developer said that being top lvl ISNT supposed to be for everyone. only small dedicated ammount of players were supposed to get/be top of their server and i really liked that way of thinking. unfortunatly western people and their eager to get everything here and now can't cope with this idea. hence all the problems like we know them these days.
one thing is sure increasing the exp speed won't solve anything, au contraire it will only make the market even more expensive/unstable then it is today and with it create a whole bunch of new problems.... think about it...
all i want is a game where you can seperate the men from the boys in a mather of speaking :). not a game where everything is served on a golden plate...
I don't disagree with you but people will cheat to try and get a leg up over their fellow players. Why do you think Nove Botted for 6 months on a dead server.
The game you described was available to all. NC didn't enforce their EULAs and we have what we have. It's unfortunite but usually greed whether by players or game developers usually ruins the game for the legit players.
They already screwed that up enough by making the quest to get into HB a 5 min one after people wasted a lot of energy into doing baylor instances + HB leveling >_> Everytime i see the large amounts of random noobs and botters in HB i feel like cutting myself. Anyways 1 room before Beleth all you get to see is an elpy 95% of the server can go to talking island for that :P
In a way I agree with you Cyd... in another way, I am happy to see my friends that reached 78 after me, we don't have to tediously wait while those instances get finished for them and Baylor achieved. That cavern quest was laboriously long and filled with bugs and crash points.
We even had a couple who completed Baylor and as they were ported out of the room to the NPC to finish the quest, they crashed. And according to the GMs they weren't there with Baylor, and there was nothing they could do but do the whole ****ed thing again.
And I would like to correct you here... the elpy is before Epidos, not Beleth.
Nc, stop the lvl limit in 85 and give low legit players a chance...
You can be sure that lvl limit will be 85 for some time now because majority of players in korea are lvl 79. Till most of them will reach lvl 82-83 they won't introduce new level cap.
Where are you getting this information about the levels of the Korean players - enough to make claims like "the majority of players in korea are level 79"?
Where are you getting this information about the levels of the Korean players - enough to make claims like "the majority of players in korea are level 79"?
Source?
His behind. As in "pulling numbers out of his ***".
In korea NCsoft from time to time announces such numbers. Why do you think this whole update is for 79+ only?
I though majority of korean ppl are 85 looong ago. (just from observing the forum's posts)
No, I actually saw a chart of the lvl distribution on Korean servers a few weeks ago (can't remember which forum it was on), it seems most people over there are in the 78-80 range. So it's obvious why they concentrate on that level range of players.
No, I actually saw a chart of the lvl distribution on Korean servers a few weeks ago (can't remember which forum it was on), it seems most people over there are in the 78-80 range. So it's obvious why they concentrate on that level range of players.
EllieBelly's. But it was actually saying that most "casuals" (staying in game for less than 4(?) hours a day on average) are in 78-79 range.