New Features

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Lets start new discusion how ******ed l2 developers can be. Topic is new features. So as new updates comes our lovely developers introduces new features marked as F or FAIL. However from time to time they introduce new features marked as EF or EPIC fail. We already know some of them:

Underground Colisieum
Craters Cube
IoP dungeons(well this is F category)

But I'm going to give you a view on one of the newiest game features called - Arial Cleft. I already mentioned some design flaws here (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=201954). With introduction of this feature a new Fail category is also introduced - HEF or Heroic Epic Fail. Why this area is marked as new category? Well lets see!

#1 You need seed occupied to even enter it
#2 You Re-enter time is 1 hour
#3 Easily exploited every bot train owner could write/download a script for that.
#4 or the main thing why this feature unlocked a new Fail category to craft 1 atribute crystal you need 200 quest items from Arial Cleft(you gain 50 per win) and 600 star stones!(to farm that much you need around 3-4 hours of farming in the spot where there's no ppl!) For the record you need around 100 atribute crystals to put 300 on your weapon.

All in all with all that requirements to enter, exploits etc it's still not even worth 30 min of your game. so CONGRAGTS L2 DEVELOPERS! You have just wasted your time on the feature that no1 will use it after 1st try. Even though you added some cool and interesting things but NCsoft should rly consider about kicking you out because you get paid too much for a job.
yeah prolly
Korean gamers must love pain.
Lets start new discusion how ******ed l2 developers can be. Topic is new features. So as new updates comes our lovely developers introduces new features marked as F or FAIL. However from time to time they introduce new features marked as EF or EPIC fail. We already know some of them:

Underground Colisieum
Craters Cube
IoP dungeons(well this is F category)

But I'm going to give you a view on one of the newiest game features called - Arial Cleft. I already mentioned some design flaws here (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=201954). With introduction of this feature a new Fail category is also introduced - HEF or Heroic Epic Fail. Why this area is marked as new category? Well lets see!

#1 You need seed occupied to even enter it
#2 You Re-enter time is 1 hour
#3 Easily exploited every bot train owner could write/download a script for that.
#4 or the main thing why this feature unlocked a new Fail category to craft 1 atribute crystal you need 200 quest items from Arial Cleft(you gain 50 per win) and 600 star stones!(to farm that much you need around 3-4 hours of farming in the spot where there's no ppl!) For the record you need around 100 atribute crystals to put 300 on your weapon.

All in all with all that requirements to enter, exploits etc it's still not even worth 30 min of your game. so CONGRAGTS L2 DEVELOPERS! You have just wasted your time on the feature that no1 will use it after 1st try. Even though you added some cool and interesting things but NCsoft should rly consider about kicking you out because you get paid too much for a job.

Underground Colisieum - Great fun.
Craters Cube - Also fun if you are alot of people.

Dont think there is anything new. Either one grind alot to get what you want or else you buy it. Is it not also so that you get items for crystals when you are in the instances in Gracia?
So there is two ways to get it. Im not saying I like the grind but I dont think its a epic fail as you point it out to be.
#4 or the main thing why this feature unlocked a new Fail category to craft 1 atribute crystal you need 200 quest items from Arial Cleft(you gain 50 per win) and 600 star stones!(to farm that much you need around 3-4 hours of farming in the spot where there's no ppl!) For the record you need around 100 atribute crystals to put 300 on your weapon.


still it's easier for me to craft the crystals than to farm atribute stones on HB or at the water dragons as a WS.


as a BD, I'm not sure...still need 3 more lvls to be 78 to enter HB
still it's easier for me to craft the crystals than to farm atribute stones on HB or at the water dragons as a WS.


as a BD, I'm not sure...still need 3 more lvls to be 78 to enter HB

No it's easier to farm infinity/destruction than go cleft. Also it's easier to farm teritory war and open 5 crystals at once! Sry but cleft is trully fail in epic scale.
OP comes across as a whiner who thinks that things are only worth doing if they are easy.

GL in rw trying to accomplish anything of note.
still it's easier for me to craft the crystals than to farm atribute stones on HB or at the water dragons as a WS.


as a BD, I'm not sure...still need 3 more lvls to be 78 to enter HB

You can enter hellbound at 40 lvl on a sub, so long as your main is over 78 and has done the quest

@OP attribute crystals are easier to farm for in the instances not the kleft
You can enter hellbound at 40 lvl on a sub, so long as your main is over 78 and has done the quest

@OP attribute crystals are easier to farm for in the instances not the kleft


I know, but my BD isn't my sub. I gave up on the WS and created a new char instead of subing as a BD.
OP comes across as a whiner who thinks that things are only worth doing if they are easy.

GL in rw trying to accomplish anything of note.

First of all read why I've written like that and if you've have no idea what end game is and what gracia is about don't comment.
There is a lot more that the OP could have listed in that post. This game is full of fail, and then people wonder why some of us say the game lacks content. They need to stop developing this crap. Crap is bad for the game!

still it's easier for me to craft the crystals than to farm atribute stones on HB or at the water dragons as a WS.


as a BD, I'm not sure...still need 3 more lvls to be 78 to enter HB
I was under the impression that your Sub can get into HB if you main can (even if it's under 78)?

Did you miss that memo?
I was under the impression that your Sub can get into HB if you main can (even if it's under 78)?

Did you miss that memo?


No I didn't, but you missed my 2nd post.

Read the thread next time before posting
There is a lot more that the OP could have listed in that post. This game is full of fail, and then people wonder why some of us say the game lacks content. They need to stop developing this crap. Crap is bad for the game!


I was under the impression that your Sub can get into HB if you main can (even if it's under 78)?

Did you miss that memo?

He is one of those hard core forum posters whose main is a dwarf (which isnt high enough to get into hellbound) and his sub is a bd (which also isnt high enough to get into hellbound), so he is talking out his butt about how much easier it would be for him to farm crystals from the cleft then from anything else which is categorically false, even for a dwarf. Basically someone who hasn't experenced end game, as previously stated, and just loves to post for the sake of posting.

And you are so right about this being so easy to bot and will be abused. Day 1 of gracia there were people named sdgfdg doing handy's block checker. If people are willing to bot it up on the worst mini-game of fi, why the hell wouldn't they bot it on in the cleft? Remember, the losing side also gets prizes and the bots don't care if it takes them 30 hours to make 1. Not like they have a huge deficit of level 75 characters, just look at the kids running scripts to do hot springs nakid 24/7 to get tat recs.
how u farm 5 crystals from teritory wars? plz expain!!
He is one of those hard core forum posters whose main is a dwarf (which isnt high enough to get into hellbound) and his sub is a bd (which also isnt high enough to get into hellbound), so he is talking out his butt about how much easier it would be for him to farm crystals from the cleft then from anything else which is categorically false, even for a dwarf. Basically someone who hasn't experenced end game, as previously stated, and just loves to post for the sake of posting.


Do you even read my posts or the patch notes?

You don't need to to kleft to get materials to craft the atribute crystals. You can get those in the instaces on Gracia and there you need to be 75+ to enter.


Since HB is almost at a lockout by some clan that likes to PK everyone that enters a certain area it will be hard to farm the elemental stones there even if I do get a party.

IoP water dragons is doable in a party, but the stones on HB and IoP can only take you to 150 element. To get to 300 you need the crystals on Gracia that you can get by doing the instances or kleft.


And no, my BD isn't my sub since I hope to hit 80+ on it one day and since you can do sub2main if your main is a WS or OL.
On phoenix ppl started trying to stun eachother when farming the attribute energy stones, so now there is a whole lot of naked ppl in there lol.

Shagadelica lol.
Maybe a totally stupid idea (inspired from WoW :P) but cant they make this pvp instances a all servers in one thing ? You know in wow in a pvp instance you compete with players from other servers not just yours, so that would make things very interesting in L2 becouse of the higher competion betwen players here
Maybe a totally stupid idea (inspired from WoW :P) but cant they make this pvp instances a all servers in one thing ? You know in wow in a pvp instance you compete with players from other servers not just yours, so that would make things very interesting in L2 becouse of the higher competion betwen players here

First of all they need to fix this damm thing. It's broken as hell.
how u farm 5 crystals from teritory wars? plz expain!!

+1 pls explain how