Hello, guys. I didn't want to start this Thread in "players questions" section due to high spam :) And besides, there are 2 ppl here (Xayla and Nanashi) who could answer my questions easily. So, you guys, and all the others are welcome to respond :)
So...my questions.
1. What is Fame and how do I obtain one? Where can I see how much fame I have? Where can I buy or convert my weapons\armors into pvp weapons\armors ?
2. Can those of you who have experienced being in a golem armor state describe what it's like? (I mean is it better than being a simple dwarf?) ;)
3. What's your choice for sub's skills? Even if you don't have all 3 subs just describe which skills you would like to have, please.
4. How do you behave in olympiad? I mean, I think I might start participating, but I don't know what to do and what to start with. I need help, guys. I have this SOES with btb lvl 5 and some dagger for mental shield with me. But I have no idea about what to do after I spawn in oly gates? Should I summon golem at once? How many seconds do I have before my hp is fully restored? What weapon do I use? etc....
5. Is this lvl 78 AOE skill which disarms you and does some dmg. really decent? Should I try using it and if so, what enchant root should I follow on it?
6. The most valuable question for me is this: what is the best Augment you would suggest for a dwarf and on what weapon?
1. said in the other thread you get fame from being on a siege zone when signed, your fame shows in your character window next to PKs and karma and stuff
there is some sort of fame manager somewhere (think one is in aden) but i don't really know since i won't PVP my gear until it is max element and with the hours i play now that will prolly never happen
2. depends what you want it for as to how effective it is.
you get a +50% pattack self buff that was/is spammable a single stun and an aoe cancel skill
3. chance haste is the most important sub skill for any melee class and since i'm not a fan of having subs and i'm not too impressed by anything else it's all i have but if NC gave me some free lvl 75 subs i might go for the tank pdef thingies and the passive crit
4. i rarely get a chance to play oly cause of my timezones so my sister logs me in if she gets a chance and my best advice for her is to just spam stuns and hope for the best
summon golem before you enter
as soon as you enter start doing buffs while trying to get buffs from oly manager if you want to use buff sticks then consider wearing DC set or at least devotion set
fight daggers with one hand holding the attack F key to bypass trick and mirage
as soon as gates open target the guy and send the golem to attack while running straight for whoever you are fighting since most ppl will start running. if you see a mage that doesn't start running then quickly duck behind their corner so they don't get in the vortex/slug combo before you are in range
and the rest is up to trial and error
5. not really worth useing IMO and it doesn't disarm it cancels target
if you are up against a high cp target like another dorf or a destro then you may as well use wrath then earthquake but me personally i just stick with a blunt and spam skills while the other guy fumbles trying to equip gear after skills
provided you have an earth blunt you should enchant for +earth but if you don't it's prolly not worth enchanting at all considering how low power enchants usually are
6. active para maybe? couldn't really say since i never get good augs QQ
4. I don't get it about DC set or devotion set. Wh should I wear it? Should I buff golem with BTB lvl 5 ? I mean will I have time to do it? Cause I also need mental shield on it! Otherwise it's like: /erase with the first try.
What if I use 2 handed blunt? Is it good?
5. Why should I enchant a blunt for Earth? I mean I can enchant for fire + all my skills for fire too, right?
6. What does active para actually do? I mean, can I hurt target while it's paralyzed?
3:
Warriors sub: warrior haste
buffer sub, includes bd and sws: enchanter barrier (from what i heard, sub celestial stays even if you do actions)
any 75 sub: master focus (+30 crit rate all time).
4:
you can have your pet sumoned before you port in.
btb 5 isnt worth it imo, especially since you only have noble buff to trigger those buff sticks with.
2 handed blunt... hmmm, abit uncertain. it would give you more damage on skills i guess and now the main DPS for me on oly is from skills, i hardly ever hit with normal hits anymore. depending abit on who i face i use hammer, armor and fatal strike then repeat from hammer again. i guess with a 2 handed you will have longer time to finnish a skill, but then spamming fatal + hammer might become a good choise.
against daggers you can skip fatal if they in UE, just keep dooing the stun attacks stun, hammer and armor crush.
btw, since most DPS comes from skills now, the toggles such as ripost and parry is somewhat usefull.
5:
the earthquake skill can only be enchanted for earth. besides that, many ppl uses earth on PvP weapons cause there is almost no resist buffs against earth.
6:
imo a really good agument to get is active reflect damage, not passive though. active = good against all meele DDs except THs with mirage. you wont be able to beat a TH if you have passive reflect damage aslong as that TH isnt a ******.
4. afaik the only way to use buff sticks is to use magic skills (not fixed yet right) so that means the only skill we have to use it is noble buff and if you are gonna use a magic skill and don't have much time then you want max cast speed. dev set has 15% cast speed and costs like 50k while Dc set has cast speed and +wit but costs millions
not sure if it's worth buffing BTB on golem since it'll still die in a split second and you really don't have much time to do anything in there but agis is wasted versus anyone who isn't useing mental attacks
again it comes down to trial and error, i don't take oly seriously so i couldn't be bothered trading my buff sticks from my WC but if you think you have time to pull off a few buffs and feel it's worth it then do so
5. earthquake can only be enchanted for earth, power or cost so if you can get an earth pole then obviously it should be earth since the other enchants don't add much (never really tried on earthquake)
your blunt and blunt skills should be enchanted for the hardest element to resist which ATM should still be earth, you can go fire or water but the stones are so cheap that most ppl have high resists and you can go wind but alot of ppl add wind to resist SH so again earth is the way to go but keep in mind that basically everyone else in game is doing the same if the can afford it so eventually ppl will start putting high earth resist on their gear
6. active para is like normal para, you click a button and it tries to land para on your target, not sure if they nerfed it like real para or not so it might be a crap option now
EDIT:
2 handed blunt is prolly not a good choice since oly is all about skill spam now
you will do slightly more DPS with the 2 hander but you will be managing less stuns in the same time and imo your best bet of winning matches as a dorf is to keep ppl stunned as long as possible while you spam the only real DD skill we have - fatal strike
against daggers you can skip fatal if they in UE, just keep dooing the stun attacks stun, hammer and armor crush.
why do you say that? O.o
Xalya, you wrote: "btb 5 isnt worth it imo, especially since you only have noble buff to trigger those buff sticks with."
I don't get the meaning of that. Could you plz explain it more specificaly?
Thank you.
Edit: oh, waite... i get it... Does it mean that those btb and mental will only land on me or golem is I use a noble buff???
Who the hell did this for? And is this true for NON-olympiad situations too? My SE can't put btb lvl 5 on me while buffing me anymore??
Edit2: what's the difference between passive and active reflect dmg.? Isn't it good to have all-time reflect dmg for pve too?
She probably meant it takes too long to try and put btb5 on yourself, and you are gonna have to regen that hp again anyway. Your SE will still land btb5 on you using regular buffs in pve.
With active reflect dmg you can choose when to reflect, and when not to :D
Why did noone point out the dagger with mortal strike from the OP?
Why would a dwarf go buy a dagger with that SA? Especially a 8X dwarf....
She probably meant it takes too long to try and put btb5 on yourself, and you are gonna have to regen that hp again anyway. Your SE will still land btb5 on you using regular buffs in pve.
With active reflect dmg you can choose when to reflect, and when not to :D
Why did noone point out the dagger with mortal strike from the OP?
Why would a dwarf go buy a dagger with that SA? Especially a 8X dwarf....
now, for the love of GOD, is Nanashi is "she" ?? OMG... I'm confused now... ;)
now, for the love of GOD, is Nanashi is "she" ?? OMG... I'm confused now... ;)
and what is OP ? I don't get the meaning. ^_^
O No'z ... don't get confused ... take a deep breath, chug yer BEER and listen... Nan is one of our grumpier dwarfy's ... you get her mad and she won't talk to ya, but she the one who got the family smarts and no'z what she's talking about!
O No'z ... don't get confused ... take a deep breath, chug yer BEER and listen... Nan is one of our grumpier dwarfy's ... you get her mad and she won't talk to ya, but she the one who got the family smarts and no'z what she's talking about!
G ! I suppose Nanashi is a "she" after all :))
Edit:
I'm still waiting for proper responses conserning my thread.
why do you say that? O.o
cause they very often evade fatal, while stun attacks with damage can never be avoided.
although, doing the low damage stun and armor crush wich both have a low stun rate might be dangerous too since its low damage and can break stun, might be safest to keep just using hammer crush till UE wear of.
Xalya, you wrote: "btb 5 isnt worth it imo, especially since you only have noble buff to trigger those buff sticks with."
you need to use a magic skill, and as dwarf the only magic skill you have is noble buffs, your self buffs and cure bleed that worked before is active, not magic. and in ct2.1 i think it was they changed so it has to be a magical skill to trigger those SAs, as it says in description too BTW.
but, anyway, in Olimpiad we have pretty good chances against daggers, healers, SWS\BD (sometimes) and prolly summoners if we are lucky.... this is pretty good situation imho I think I will manage to win at least 1 game per month :p and that would be enough for me to earn golem armor book :-)
And that is when I wish my 2 buff slaves were nobless! So I could /slave them for myself at the begining of each month... ah.....
you'd be surprised what can own you in oly
a bish with active holy aug and 150 holy will tear you apart if you don't have good holy resist and GL trying to kill em when they can spam heal a billion times the damage you do if you don't keep them chain stunned
the last dagger i fought lethaled me 4 (maybe 5) times in a row and a well played summoner will rip you apart unless you get fairly lucky
also you don't need to win any matches to get your oly tokens so just go in and do your 9 matches a month and walk away
you'd be surprised what can own you in oly
a bish with active holy aug and 150 holy will tear you apart if you don't have good holy resist and GL trying to kill em when they can spam heal a billion times the damage you do if you don't keep them chain stunned
the last dagger i fought lethaled me 4 (maybe 5) times in a row and a well played summoner will rip you apart unless you get fairly lucky
also you don't need to win any matches to get your oly tokens so just go in and do your 9 matches a month and walk away
w8 w8... bishop can't heal in Inquisitor mode. Can he?
w8 w8... bishop can't heal in Inquisitor mode. Can he?
Not unless it has a heal augment o.O
The bishop wont be in inquisitor, it will use a spell augmented on its weapon, so it will be able to use all spells from its skill window, while still being able to nuke you. You would be amazed how easy you lose once you dont have ww, the bishop does, and you dont have a bow :(
What do you mean use sub skills in oly? There are no active skills from sub, its all passive. If you are under the assumption that a dwarf subbed nuker would be able to nuke while on the main class, you should prolly ask for a refund on your purchase...
Your opening post seems to suggest the dagger you have was gonna buff you mortal strike (that dagger is utterly useless for a dwarf lol). How long have you really been playing and what lvl are you?
My dagger gives me mental shield. Sub skills = I was talking about passive skills, of course. Will I still have +30 focus on me and etc. etc from my subs when participating in oly?? That's what I meant.
Now...why don't I have WW ? and a bow? Heal Augment can really nuke me hard? o.0 now, that's smth. new! What about stunning a bishop ? their running speed is reduced pretty much nowdays.
For having played that long and being that high you come across as severly clueless about most things, just seems a bit fishy.
If a bishop was in inquisitor, it would have to use an augment to heal itself, did you not read the reply? Or only part of it?
Sub skills: Yes if you chose crit passives from subs you will have that in oly.
Dagger: Your first post said mortal blow or mortal strike dagger, not mental shield.
WW: Cardinals get mass block windwalk, makes you lose ww.
Still think your posts resemble that of a private server trash or a guy that purchased his account. Not sure how someone gets to 80 (with subs) and remains this clueless.
thanks for the respond! I changed my OP...it indeed had dagger with mortal blow. I'm just not that good in skill names :p confused mortal blow with mental shield. lol
Now.... you know, to become 80 on subs is not that hard when you have oop buffers who could buff POF not a long time ago :p and I've never been in a good clan or participated in oly\siege etc... cause I don't have much time to play....so....I did what I could, and it was exping :)
That's how I don't know those things.
You remind me of the warsmith I ran into in Dark Omens. I EE buffed him Improved movement, he said thank you very much and ran off with his prophet spamming ww on him every time it was refreshed ;(
anyway, I just love my dorfie. That's why I need golem armor for her. and to do that I need olympiad.... and to do that I need to know how to behave at olympiad :p etc. etc. etc. .... ;)
Thanks for responses though. Any suggestions about what augment is a good one for a dwarf (for olympiad fights)?
If all you need is the book for it, just go in naked, saves time :D
You get 20k points from must losing 9 matches. Do open oly, the points you have near the end of the month is more than enough for you to be able to lose all matches and still have a few points left.
If all you need is the book for it, just go in naked, saves time :D
You get 20k points from must losing 9 matches. Do open oly, the points you have near the end of the month is more than enough for you to be able to lose all matches and still have a few points left.
yeah, I understand that. But if I'm going to be in there, I'd like to fight. Maybe I could win smth? :))
So, any suggestions on augment? Cause I have like tons of ls 76....I think I can get whatever I want :p
Active para used to be good, but they changed how long it lasts and how it lands. Double crit passive or reflect dmg would be "ok" augments imo.
Dont forget to augment your jewelry also, I dont think it will give you active skills on jewels, but you might get pdef vs elements or debuffs. My SE has pdef vs mental debuffs I think, and also holy.
You remind me of the warsmith I ran into in Dark Omens. I EE buffed him Improved movement, he said thank you very much and ran off with his prophet spamming ww on him every time it was refreshed ;(
battleborn?
about aguments, try get a stun patk agument on jewelry, i have it on my ring. its not a great increase, i guess a few % more chance. but every little thing helps.
Thanks Xalya! Currently I have para resist + Mental atack resist on my Jewelery.
One more question:
When in golem armor state. Do I have increased p.def\m.def too? And the most important thing: can I participate in olimpiad in golem armor state??
When in golem armor state. Do I have increased p.def\m.def too? And the most important thing: can I participate in olimpiad in golem armor state??
no, your only stat thats changed is runspeed, wich is slightly increased.
however, the golem armor have a selfbuff "overhit" that increases patk by 50% (replaces might)
also have a 11k power stun, best tactic in golem armor is just to ONLY do stun, no normal attacks at all.
no, your only stat thats changed is runspeed, wich is slightly increased.
however, the golem armor have a selfbuff "overhit" that increases patk by 50% (replaces might)
also have a 11k power stun, best tactic in golem armor is just to ONLY do stun, no normal attacks at all.
If I change on my mage sub and try augmenting duals (for example), will I get Active augmentation for fighters (not for mages)?
You will get a random augment on the specific weapon.
You will get a random augment on the specific weapon.
no, you see, I'm sure you know that if you are a warrior, chances are slim to get a warrior augmentation: you'll get a magical augmentation in like 90%. The same for mage. BUt what if I switch to mage?
btw, I got active Silence on my sword. Shall I keep it? Or is it influenced by my m.atack (which is ridiculosly low) and thus I won't be able to land it on any mage\mob at anytime?
I got a passive stun augment on my bbh. It triggers randomly when i take dmg, but its somewhat helpfull occasionally. It can stun nukers/archers if you are lucky when they are trying to kite me. Its also great to see their expressions "i got stunned at range from a dwarf?!!! wtf ":P
I got a passive stun augment on my bbh. It triggers randomly when i take dmg, but its somewhat helpfull occasionally. It can stun nukers/archers if you are lucky when they are trying to kite me. Its also great to see their expressions "i got stunned at range from a dwarf?!!! wtf ":P
When in golem state I have stun skill. Its power is smth. around 11k , right? (I think Xalya wrote this somewhere in this thread). So, my question is: what's the landrate of this stun? Is it good? I mean 11k stun must be like 100% land rate... Gosh....
skill power has nothing to do with stun land rate (stun attack versus armor crush proves that pretty well)
land rate would be pretty good depending on lvl since it should have an 83 learn lvl
skill power has nothing to do with stun land rate (stun attack versus armor crush proves that pretty well)
land rate would be pretty good depending on lvl since it should have an 83 learn lvl
while i cant be certain, i think its base land rate is same as shield stun, ie 80%. it rarely fails for me on ppl even those with like maj set and same epics as me. only classes with lionheart is still hard to stun.
i used to go into frint before, and my stun used to land better then human tanks, as few tanks have it enchanted to +15 or more. although shield bash that TK / SK have is better to stop frints skills.
guys, I was about to join Olympiad fights and I run into a problem.
I couldn't JOIN! I chose: "I wish to participate" >> "Join class Specific" and then it said smth. like: "oly games are delayed due to insufficient number of players on a waiting list". And at THE SAME time I'm reading this: "fignt in Oly arena #7, 8, 9 is going to start in a moment"! (smth. like that)
What the hell? lol What should I choose to get involved and participate in oly? lolen
I saw bassalt Masterwork on the market yesterday and Dragon Hunter masterwork. What do you say fellow-dorfs, is it worth of buying?
Bassalt gives + accurasy, DHA gives + critical rate. I don't have that much for 2 weps, just thinking about one actually. Any suggestions?
I saw bassalt Masterwork on the market yesterday and Dragon Hunter masterwork. What do you say fellow-dorfs, is it worth of buying?
Bassalt gives + accurasy, DHA gives + critical rate. I don't have that much for 2 weps, just thinking about one actually. Any suggestions?
basalt really give accuracy? i thought it was "landslide" ie, chance to stun on normal hit.
anyway, imo the only reason to have a blunt for dwarf is PvP to use all stun skills. but if you cant afford both sword and blunt, for PvE and PvP respectively, id say buy the DHA with crit rate, decent for PvP and PvE.
basalt really give accuracy? i thought it was "landslide" ie, chance to stun on normal hit.
anyway, imo the only reason to have a blunt for dwarf is PvP to use all stun skills. but if you cant afford both sword and blunt, for PvE and PvP respectively, id say buy the DHA with crit rate, decent for PvP and PvE.
Alright... I'll try to do that. Shall I put a haealth crystal into it?
And Yes, Bassalt gives accurasy. it says "bassalt battle hammer concentration". Well, at least I've seen that one on the market.
Edit: If we compare DPS of DHA and Bassalt. I assume that DHA will win, right? So, the only reasonable question is: Is this IC shield really useful? Thanks
Xalya (as you are probably the most familiar person with the required answer) what do I need to get S dynasty set? I mean where do I take parts from? Recipies are seamed to start appearing on the market. But where do I take parts from? Thanks.
P.S. A guy was about to sell me dynasty boots for 1bil! Is this a fair price? Thanks.
yes, and its imo a big problem, atleast for PvP, you just become too easy to target, and other meele close to you becomes abit hard to target for yourself.
about S80, there is 2 ways, IoP gathering seeds or HB.
IoP sucks, you need to gather tons of seeds then do instances to get the last seeds wich later can trade for parts/recs inside one of the instances.
HB, you need to level up some sort of alliance with the natives, once its level 3 you can trade items you get as drop in HB for parts and recs.
demon tomes they are called, you can get 3 different items as you open them, and those are used in trading.
btw, you dont have a good clan? Oo they should been able to tell you all this and help you out.
I get 31 fame every 5 min of siege, right? Siege lasts for 40min? Which is only 248 fame per siege? And golem armor costs omg omg... 20k ??? unbelivable....
It's 31 fame per some minutes of fort siege, which can last up to one hour
You get more fame in other sieges, like for clan halls.
You get fame even doing nothing and staying dead, so 20k isn't really that much if you plan ahead.
well...I hoped the best I could do was 2 sieges per day...and that is only 500points per day... 20k is like 2 months... plus I won't be able to do 2 sieges eevery day.... not even one per day sometimes...
Xalya, I know you've been a hero for quite a while now, could you plz tell me smth.
What is the best hero weapon for us?
i.e.: I'm reading description of Infinity Sword, and it says:
"Increases critical attack success rate/power, MaxHP, MaxCP, and damage inflicted during PvP. Also inflicts extra damage on critical attacks, and reflects debuff attacks back on enemies" - better then cansel on a pole, imho. Is it 100% reflect debuff rate? Do you happen to know that?
Or: [Infinity crusher - 2h blunt]: Increases Max HP, Max CP, and Atk. Spd. Stuns a target when a critical attack occurs and has possibility of reflecting the skill back on the player. Enhances damage to target during PvP.
I hope using Fatal\armor & hammer crush is better than just using Pole? + stun chance is good too...
thing with hero weapons are that they have no attribute. meaning that unless you hunt holy weak mobs and buff holy weapon any 150 attributed weapon will do more damage.
for PvP its basicly the same, especially with fatal strike where you cut your damage to like 1/2.
hero pole is prefered for mass PvP and also smaller cause its almost a 100% chance to remove buffs on a critical hit.
thing with hero weapons are that they have no attribute. meaning that unless you hunt holy weak mobs and buff holy weapon any 150 attributed weapon will do more damage.
for PvP its basicly the same, especially with fatal strike where you cut your damage to like 1/2.
hero pole is prefered for mass PvP and also smaller cause its almost a 100% chance to remove buffs on a critical hit.
I wonder why you guys say so. I have a question, IDN the answer, you don't give the answer - too bad :/
Coz for someone who "plays" for so long time, u ask noob questions, like if u xp'ed like a ...
(no need to write the word, everyone understood what i meant, even if i miss some english words :D)
(no need to write the word, everyone understood what i meant, even if i miss some english words
No need indeed, it has even been admitted by Bel himself in this forum. But since he is so sweetly ignorant at times, I see no reason for him to go anywhere, always a refreshing change from the usual forum stuff :D
Coz for someone who "plays" for so long time, u ask noob questions, like if u xp'ed like a ...
(no need to write the word, everyone understood what i meant, even if i miss some english words :D)
has it ever occurred to you that there is a chance for a person to play lineage for so much time as I do and NOT be a nobless? Or NOT participate in OLY??
Do you REALLY think I'm the only one out there? It's just ppl usually ask the same questions in clan chat, well, i'm sorry, i don't have a clan. So, I ask it here.
BTW, still no response on my question.
And hey, Edge, = link to approve your words or it never happened??
what server do you play on? I ask as you are a very high level for a dwarf. I have been on Bartz since beta, and as the first server that is 5+ years..and only recently hit 84.
lol Wulf, that was what i was thinking too. but thought the people that really care to know more have probably figured out where to search and see it themselve allready lol.
one more question:
If we (dwarves) face Destroyers in Oly, have anyone ever tried to do this:
Hit him with a bow while he still far away. And hit him with golem's range atack. Then, assuming the ORC doesn't have a bow, you just start running around till the game's match is over. Thus, you'll make more dmg. to him then he will to you. And as a result, you'll win.
one more question:
If we (dwarves) face Destroyers in Oly, have anyone ever tried to do this:
Hit him with a bow while he still far away. And hit him with golem's range atack. Then, assuming the ORC doesn't have a bow, you just start running around till the game's match is over. Thus, you'll make more dmg. to him then he will to you. And as a result, you'll win.
What do you think?
/equip conversion weapon
/equip health weapon
/useskill zealot
/kill dwarf
one more question:
If we (dwarves) face Destroyers in Oly, have anyone ever tried to do this:
Hit him with a bow while he still far away. And hit him with golem's range atack. Then, assuming the ORC doesn't have a bow, you just start running around till the game's match is over. Thus, you'll make more dmg. to him then he will to you. And as a result, you'll win.
What do you think?
I think you know less about the game than we originally thought.
Why is that you think IDN THAT much about oly? Isn't is said somewhere, that if after 2 min of match no one dies, the winner is the one who did more dmg??? Isn't it like that????
And didn't I write: "Let's assume the Orc doesn't have a bow" ? NO BOWS at all, not even common ones!
His running speed is less than dwarf's. So... if I Kite him even once, and hit him with my golem and then just run-run-run around the arena.... I can win.
Where is my mistake? Plz dare to elaborate!
I actually came with that Idea after the match with Destro, when I was running for 30 secs to kite him...and forced him to switch to the bow, thus, loosing his +25% bonus.
So, I thought, it worked for 30 secs, why not use it for 2 min?
strange... I have 190. He couldn't catch me (The orc in Oly)
you have 190 speed as a WS? what do you use? BW heavy and +5 DEX and buff your self with WW and zerk from the buffer inside? or do you have dash as augment on your weapon?
I barely hit that when I'm on a strider or great wolf.
you have 190 speed as a WS? what do you use? BW heavy and +5 DEX and buff your self with WW and zerk from the buffer inside? or do you have dash as augment on your weapon?
I barely hit that when I'm on a strider or great wolf.
Zerk, WW, speed talisman +25 passive skills for running speed.
ignoring the "assume he doesn't have a bow" comment cause even my gimp toon had access to at least a common bow
destros have 1 less run speed than dorfs and it's universal across all buffs, they also have the option to enchant blunt mastery and the luxuary to go +dex - str and still have more DPS than us or if they want they can go +dex - con since they have easy access to bless body and we don't but all that is irrelevant because a competant destro will start the match in zealot/rage/frenzy/OTB and have about 40 more run speed than you
the only reasonable way to beat a destro (hoping to chain stun is moronic) is via reflect damage but if the destro has the slightest clue what you are doing you are only a few seconds of skill spam away from death anyway
ignoring the "assume he doesn't have a bow" comment cause even my gimp toon had access to at least a common bow
destros have 1 less run speed than dorfs and it's universal across all buffs, they also have the option to enchant blunt mastery and the luxuary to go +dex - str and still have more DPS than us or if they want they can go +dex - con since they have easy access to bless body and we don't but all that is irrelevant because a competant destro will start the match in zealot/rage/frenzy/OTB and have about 40 more run speed than you
the only reasonable way to beat a destro (hoping to chain stun is moronic) is via reflect damage but if the destro has the slightest clue what you are doing you are only a few seconds of skill spam away from death anyway
Well..Nana... really... my destro sub has much much less running speed than my main dwarf. And as for BOW... I mean destroyers might NOT use it, because they don't take it with them (cause they think: oh, I'm sopowerfull!) etc.
Anyway.. a destro couldn't keep up with me... maybe he was a bad destro....
yeah man and 4x daggers for some reason can't 1 hit me
whenever i compare destro with dorfs i always say "they have all the good skills dorfs do plus some which are actually useful" a 76 destro may actually lose to a 85 dorf although TBH if they know how to play they still have a fair chance but the fact is if a destro is high enough to enter olympiad they are always able to have more run speed than a dorf is
give it up bel, even if you are 84 with +25 skills, your class is not super good at killing anything, and you don't know much about what other classes can do. If you manage to kill anything in oly it's because you got lucky, got a noob, or both. All the real farmers in there will destroy you and there is nothing to do about it. Dorfs do not have the special skills of real DD's that make them such good killers. Half the battle is knowing exactly what each class can do and what you can possibly do against them.
give it up bel, even if you are 84 with +25 skills, your class is not super good at killing anything, and you don't know much about what other classes can do. If you manage to kill anything in oly it's because you got lucky, got a noob, or both. All the real farmers in there will destroy you and there is nothing to do about it. Dorfs do not have the special skills of real DD's that make them such good killers. Half the battle is knowing exactly what each class can do and what you can possibly do against them.
Are Hero Kamaels (archers) and Tanks (Dark) qualify as noobs or luck or both? ^^ oh yeah.. and pre-82 gladiators...
Are Hero Kamaels (archers) and Tanks (Dark) qualify as noobs or luck or both? ^^ oh yeah.. and pre-82 gladiators...
hero skills don't work in oly so yes beating an abralester is luck or n00b.
beating a gladi in oly as a dwarf is posible if the gladi don't land to many skill crits on you.
beating a tank is luck if he has his UD OE for movement and keep you chain stunned.
not really possible to beat glads and tanks
glads have about the same cp (more hp. again battle roar) and about 3x your DPS and lionheart is basically stun invincibility unless your stun learn lvl out lvls them by 10+ lvls and tanks just have way too much defence and a far superior stun (pre +30 hammer crush) not to mention the other ownage crap they give tanks that makes them better DDs/debuffers
I'm considering a new strategy atm. I'm thinking about going in Oly with Big Boom + Blessed Beast SoulShots. It may be more useful than Golem (sometimes). Need to compare the boom dmg. on 1500 m.def vs some nukers...
i'm actually considering not using the golem since it does such low damage and breaks stun faster so the big boom thing might work depending on what sort of damage it can do (haven't summoned one for ages)
i'm actually considering not using the golem since it does such low damage and breaks stun faster so the big boom thing might work depending on what sort of damage it can do (haven't summoned one for ages)
well...if we could buff empower on him.... the dmg. is pretty decent. Just checked. With Ep lvl 3 it does 600-800 dmg. on 1300 m.def
not really possible to beat glads and tanks
glads have about the same cp (more hp. again battle roar) and about 3x your DPS and lionheart is basically stun invincibility unless your stun learn lvl out lvls them by 10+ lvls and tanks just have way too much defence and a far superior stun (pre +30 hammer crush) not to mention the other ownage crap they give tanks that makes them better DDs/debuffers
battle roar on glads is kinda a moot point since it's lvl 1, 1 hit and its gone, glads have the most (passive) CP of all classes tho >.<