America doesn't have good web developers\programmers etc. ?
Hire foreigners then.
It has nothing to do with that. They could easily hire someone to do it, they just dont, or they don't offer enough benefits for anyone to consider applying. I wouldn't want to prove my worth in the game industry on a dying game.
This has been one of there main problems since Lineage 2 was RELEASED 5 YEARS AGO!!!
This is whats funny no matter what you complain about they dont' care about there customer all they care about is getting there money and doing the least amount of work possible I mean who could blame them. Korea does all the hard work with developments what do they really do here?? Besides take our money and auto bot reply our petitions? They ban us if we bot, hell GM's bot petitions and they are allowed and its not bannable. I think if a GM gives us a bot reply they should be fired, much like we get banned.
Ever since Kinslon left the main page hasnt been touched at all:
Still showing the event ad.
Still showing the offer that is already expired.
The new skills haven't been added to their section yet.
I mean, hello?? Not even the last 2-3 server maintenance summaries have been posted on the page!!
Very true and very sad indeed! I pointed this out serval times already and sended a pm to moxis about this issue.
I mean, this is very UNPROFESSIONAL and shows that ncsoft dont care at all about the details we love so much. If we would get a new page, new design and so forth, i am sure many players would get attracted to l2 and give it a try. And not that stupid offers like "pay 6month and you get a free month!" stuff.
I mean love on the detail is important. And a full detailed page which all important info is a MUST! NCSoft is a enterprise..and not a private server run by 2-3 guys who only want the peoples donation.....or am I wrong? :rolleyes:
The skills page are outdated for ages. Many weapons and armors in the weapons/armors page are missing its pictures for ages too. At least the main page used to be a little up-to-date, but seems it is not anymore.
its kinda bad, when you see their korean website with crapload of correct info. That just say ALOOOT how they care about this version of l2.
yes indeed! The korean site is just awsome looking full of up-to-date info! Even if i cant read a thing i can see the love the game they deal with everyday and know how to treat costumers.
It's bad, but same thing gonna happen with Aion (their newly mmo). Look at the korean (and even french) version of their website, it's VERY nice then look at the this, http://www.aiononline.com/us/ seriously might as well shoot themself in the feet, would look more pro.
Yeah, somebody needs to start doing their job and fix the web site, also promote more the game,
A game is as successful as the people who play it and give good referrals, something that is not happening to L2 since most people talk about L2 in not a positive way.
Even people who actually play disrespect the current staff in so many ways...
I come to the conclusion that Aion is "solution" to compete in the NA market, and L2 will become the euro game, since there is no way for L2 to actually stand a chance in USA at all, there are so many gamestops that doenst sell the game anymore, however WoW is their #1 game that sells.
WoW is only a top seller because blizzard knows how to satisy their clients and new clients and attract people with their great advertisment all around the world. Thats the most powerful weapon to make a game well known. And thats what lacks here in every point.
L2 is a great concept and unique, but that's the problem...
What the majority wants in a game? easy things.
What WoW offers? everything a kid wants and desires...
What L2 offers? endless grind until some day in the long distant future you can actually pvp and enjoy the benefit of the end game, which you may not even reach since most probably will quit...
So what you need to promote L2? Find ways to promote the game in that specific market, since you cant compete in the overall market.
Btw We need an answer about why the web site is not updated, it shows a lot, that nobody is taking responsibility for that.
Has anybody even noticed an official response to any post in a while now? I'm not counting things like annoucements for Gracia Final but an actual response to something a player has posted. It's like a ghost town in here. I can't remember a time when it's felt so much like nobody is reading what we're typing. Is anybody still out there?
Ever since Kinslon left the main page hasnt been touched at all:
Still showing the event ad.
Still showing the offer that is already expired.
The new skills haven't been added to their section yet.
I mean, hello?? Not even the last 2-3 server maintenance summaries have been posted on the page!!
Last months where awesome. Nice events, the page was being updated relatively often, we had interaction with NC representatives, etc. But all of a sudden it all went to crap again.
Why even bring this topic up again and again? We already know the reality of what we pay for and the sad thing is there will not be any changes. So, get in game and stop reading the forums or the website.
L2 is a great concept and unique, but that's the problem...
L2 is not unique, it's like every other asian grind MMO
What the majority wants in a game? easy things.
What WoW offers? everything a kid wants and desires...
and regular updates, game balancing, Low requirements for client, both easy and hard content, sensible quest rewards.
Wow has a lot that lineage doesn't, it's not just that wow is easier, it is in many many ways a better game.
What L2 offers? endless grind until some day in the long distant future you can actually pvp and enjoy the benefit of the end game, which you may not even reach since most probably will quit...
Pretty much dead on, and that's the sad part.
So what you need to promote L2? Find ways to promote the game in that specific market, since you cant compete in the overall market.
What market?
Btw We need an answer about why the web site is not updated, it shows a lot, that nobody is taking responsibility for that.
Do you mean since the staff switch or since ... ever?
Game is on skeleton crew, they're gonna spend as little as possible and pull the last breaths of money out of this dying game.
Has anybody even noticed an official response to any post in a while now? I'm not counting things like annoucements for Gracia Final but an actual response to something a player has posted. It's like a ghost town in here. I can't remember a time when it's felt so much like nobody is reading what we're typing. Is anybody still out there?
No they haven't...
Usually when the people who spend 5 years in a project and were part of the core leave while the project needs more work than before only means one thing, the project is about to die and is time to leave for good. You can replace them with new people? and granted new status and hope they will do at least a semi-good work, thats a ****** way of thinking... you replace them with people in the same level of experience and skills... or more...
No events... no moderation at all at forums... new staff barely give info or updates... and doesnt care the web site is outdate for months...
What I'll post now is more like a suggestion, plz dont flame, I wanna let it clear that I, myself, personally, am ok with the actual grinding of L2, but read:
They should make a high rate server to the ppl who just seek for PvP.
I'm not QQing about how hard to lv up is, or QQing about being rolled by stronger clans, but common, let's be realistic here. WoW has that much more players because it's easier to obtain things and u can get to the end game much faster than in L2.
Also note that some L2 private servers have as many or sometimes more players than retail not because they are free, it's because they are not endless grinding oriented like retail is. They are mostly 5x+ rates wich makes you grind yes, but much more less than in retail to enjoy end game faster.
Also note that many people quit L2 due the griefers and frustrations. I know a friend who spent 2 months collecting mats for his Draconic armor and when he tried to craft it, it failed and he told me he was disapointed and frustrated, and after that day I never saw him online again. Also I know a whole clan who left Sayha due to the griefer and bullying clans there.
I, personally, like the way retail is now, but many people don't play here because of the endless grinding and cool stuff being dominated by stronger clans/alliances, and if NCsoft were willing to roll one or two high rate servers, I bet all my accounts that it would atract much much more players, and NCsoft would earn much more profit from both public: the people that likes grinding more and the people that likes to PvP more.
What I'll post now is more like a suggestion, plz dont flame, I wanna let it clear that I, myself, personally, am ok with the actual grinding of L2, but read:
They should make a high rate server to the ppl who just seek for PvP.
I'm not QQing about how hard to lv up is, or QQing about being rolled by stronger clans, but common, let's be realistic here. WoW has that much more players because it's easier to obtain things and u can get to the end game much faster than in L2.
Also note that some L2 private servers have as many or sometimes more players than retail not because they are free, it's because they are not endless grinding oriented like retail is. They are mostly 5x+ rates wich makes you grind yes, but much more less than in retail to enjoy end game faster.
Also note that many people quit L2 due the griefers and frustrations. I know a friend who spent 2 months collecting mats for his Draconic armor and when he tried to craft it, it failed and he told me he was disapointed and frustrated, and after that day I never saw him online again. Also I know a whole clan who left Sayha due to the griefer and bullying clans there.
I, personally, like the way retail is now, but many people don't play here because of the endless grinding and cool stuff being dominated by stronger clans/alliances, and if NCsoft were willing to roll one or two high rate servers, I bet all my accounts that it would atract much much more players, and NCsoft would earn much more profit from both public: the people that likes grinding more and the people that likes to PvP more.
What I'll post now is more like a suggestion, plz dont flame, I wanna let it clear that I, myself, personally, am ok with the actual grinding of L2, but read:
They should make a high rate server to the ppl who just seek for PvP.
I'm not QQing about how hard to lv up is, or QQing about being rolled by stronger clans, but common, let's be realistic here. WoW has that much more players because it's easier to obtain things and u can get to the end game much faster than in L2.
Also note that some L2 private servers have as many or sometimes more players than retail not because they are free, it's because they are not endless grinding oriented like retail is. They are mostly 5x+ rates wich makes you grind yes, but much more less than in retail to enjoy end game faster.
Also note that many people quit L2 due the griefers and frustrations. I know a friend who spent 2 months collecting mats for his Draconic armor and when he tried to craft it, it failed and he told me he was disapointed and frustrated, and after that day I never saw him online again. Also I know a whole clan who left Sayha due to the griefer and bullying clans there.
I, personally, like the way retail is now, but many people don't play here because of the endless grinding and cool stuff being dominated by stronger clans/alliances, and if NCsoft were willing to roll one or two high rate servers, I bet all my accounts that it would atract much much more players, and NCsoft would earn much more profit from both public: the people that likes grinding more and the people that likes to PvP more.
Think about it.
I agree. I think this is a good idea that could add a fresh dynamic to the game.
Well..lvling got already a bit faster since vit, and the next update will make 76+ players boosting with more vit time. That means for 76+ players vit will stay longer than before.
But yes..a bit diversity with maybe more palaika quests or something like that would help.
About the crafting, indeed..it may be very frustrating failing a S grade craft since is very hard to collect and spend all the money in all mats and after that failing the craft. Its just korean random.... :(
I crafted a tallum at first time..after that a DLE failed and second attempt succeeded. I think the chance should be higher at least because i know friends which failed 3 AMs in a row...now thats madness.
What I'll post now is more like a suggestion, plz dont flame, I wanna let it clear that I, myself, personally, am ok with the actual grinding of L2, but read:
They should make a high rate server to the ppl who just seek for PvP.
I'm not QQing about how hard to lv up is, or QQing about being rolled by stronger clans, but common, let's be realistic here. WoW has that much more players because it's easier to obtain things and u can get to the end game much faster than in L2.
Also note that some L2 private servers have as many or sometimes more players than retail not because they are free, it's because they are not endless grinding oriented like retail is. They are mostly 5x+ rates wich makes you grind yes, but much more less than in retail to enjoy end game faster.
Also note that many people quit L2 due the griefers and frustrations. I know a friend who spent 2 months collecting mats for his Draconic armor and when he tried to craft it, it failed and he told me he was disapointed and frustrated, and after that day I never saw him online again. Also I know a whole clan who left Sayha due to the griefer and bullying clans there.
I, personally, like the way retail is now, but many people don't play here because of the endless grinding and cool stuff being dominated by stronger clans/alliances, and if NCsoft were willing to roll one or two high rate servers, I bet all my accounts that it would atract much much more players, and NCsoft would earn much more profit from both public: the people that likes grinding more and the people that likes to PvP more.
Think about it.
*waiting for the first person to come by and say: Mwaha go back to your private server, rwar!! noob, roflcopterz, wtf, bbQ!!*
What I'll post now is more like a suggestion, plz dont flame, I wanna let it clear that I, myself, personally, am ok with the actual grinding of L2, but read:
They should make a high rate server to the ppl who just seek for PvP.
I'm not QQing about how hard to lv up is, or QQing about being rolled by stronger clans, but common, let's be realistic here. WoW has that much more players because it's easier to obtain things and u can get to the end game much faster than in L2.
Also note that some L2 private servers have as many or sometimes more players than retail not because they are free, it's because they are not endless grinding oriented like retail is. They are mostly 5x+ rates wich makes you grind yes, but much more less than in retail to enjoy end game faster.
Also note that many people quit L2 due the griefers and frustrations. I know a friend who spent 2 months collecting mats for his Draconic armor and when he tried to craft it, it failed and he told me he was disapointed and frustrated, and after that day I never saw him online again. Also I know a whole clan who left Sayha due to the griefer and bullying clans there.
I, personally, like the way retail is now, but many people don't play here because of the endless grinding and cool stuff being dominated by stronger clans/alliances, and if NCsoft were willing to roll one or two high rate servers, I bet all my accounts that it would atract much much more players, and NCsoft would earn much more profit from both public: the people that likes grinding more and the people that likes to PvP more.
Think about it.
Ill +1 that just so that we get more player base and more money influx in the game and perhaps some webdesigners can be hired ^^. I wont play on the servers but it wont be any sweat off my back if some other players do.
I just wonder whats the point of playing L2 just to grind. I mean this is a game specifically designed for PvP. You grind to PvP. and in the beginning you pvp'd to grind to pvp better.
a game full of people just to grind to...grind is...boring.
I just wonder whats the point of playing L2 just to grind. I mean this is a game specifically designed for PvP. You grind to PvP. and in the beginning you pvp'd to grind to pvp better.
a game full of people just to grind to...grind is...boring.
I play this game for the grind and not for the PvP, only PvP I will be doing from now on is the territorial wars every 2 weeks.
maybe the koreans got jealous of the april fool's event and they stole spam and the rest from us...maybe that's the real reason?
i'm also amazed that this thread isn't locked/delteted already.
Honey, this is the weekend. This is the time to flame and misbehave because NO ONE is here to watch until Monday.
Your all wrong.... its those crazy robot pirate ninjas theyve turned all the staff into zombies who are incapable of updating everything and in Omegas last breath before he turn he hit auto pilot on the servers; so they auto shutdown and restart 2 hours afterwords... RIP omega and thank you ;)
We are around and reading! Yes, it's a Holiday weekend for us. To answer the OP, the images on the website were updated last week. We know the website is not currently updated (Library section) and we dislike that as much as anyone. It is a long process, but it is definitely one of our priorities.
I appreciate all of the concern expressed in this thread, but the doom talk is not accurate or necessary. We aren't going anywhere, Lineage 2 isn't going anywhere, and we are working on many things to improve the game/community/website.
Leaving the thread open to allow for responses, but rage/flame posts will lead us to the path of the padlock. Keep it constructive.
We are around and reading! Yes, it's a Holiday weekend for us. To answer the OP, the images on the website were updated last week. We know the website is not currently updated (Library section) and we dislike that as much as anyone. It is a long process, but it is definitely one of our priorities.
I appreciate all of the concern expressed in this thread, but the doom talk is not accurate or necessary. We aren't going anywhere, Lineage 2 isn't going anywhere, and we are working on many things to improve the game/community/website.
Leaving the thread open to allow for responses, but rage/flame posts will lead us to the path of the padlock. Keep it constructive.
We know the website is not currently updated (Library section) and we dislike that as much as anyone. It is a long process, but it is definitely one of our priorities.
No offence to the webmasters at NC, but if I as one person can manage to update the skill lists and publish them before the new patch goes live and update the weapons and recipe lists within a week from a new patch then I think that a team of webmasters should be able to do so in less than a week and unlike me you have all you need maybe a week or two before you even publish the PTS.
btw I'm willing to give a helping hand if you need one
It is a long process, but it is definitely one of our priorities.
I appreciate all of the concern expressed in this thread, but the doom talk is not accurate or necessary. We aren't going anywhere, Lineage 2 isn't going anywhere, and we are working on many things to improve the game/community/website.
Leaving the thread open to allow for responses, but rage/flame posts will lead us to the path of the padlock. Keep it constructive.
-Moxie
moxie, i'm not trying to start anything, but you have to understand that we've been hearing that certain things are priorities for, oh, 5 years now? essentially, the veterans here are telling the newer people to just deal with it...it's been like that forever and it's not going to change, despite who promises how much.
it's nothing personal against you, it's just that the veterans have been promised so many things and have never had their loyalties rewarded.
personally, everyone here loved spam because he actually played and knew what he was talking about and presented it in a way where there was no questioning it. what would help is if you just start popping in to a bunch of different threads and actually being an active member of the forums in addition to just being a mod.
l2 is still a great game...but do understand that we're just not expecting much from here on out.
We are around and reading! Yes, it's a Holiday weekend for us. To answer the OP, the images on the website were updated last week. We know the website is not currently updated (Library section) and we dislike that as much as anyone. It is a long process, but it is definitely one of our priorities.
I appreciate all of the concern expressed in this thread, but the doom talk is not accurate or necessary. We aren't going anywhere, Lineage 2 isn't going anywhere, and we are working on many things to improve the game/community/website.
Leaving the thread open to allow for responses, but rage/flame posts will lead us to the path of the padlock. Keep it constructive.
-Moxie
I feel so reassured now that you said its a priority and youre concerned about it.
There's people that play L2, have their own jobs/lives, and still manage websites that are more informative and helpful than the official site has ever been for information. The sad part is, you guys get paid for it. I wish I could push my workloads off for weeks, months, years, or simply ignore some obstacles.
Essentially you said nothing more than what everyone here has heard before. Dont waste time saying youre working on it, or youre concerned, its really frustrating and ignorant at this point. Ignore the thread until you have information as to when we can expect a result. Vague and unfulfilled promises has led everyone to share a common mindset now. Take is as a flame if you want, I come from a world where 'soon' doesnt cut it, and goals are backed with dates. If you wont update it until August, fine, say that. Telling people youre working on it and getting around to it in 2 months is a petty way of doing business, and the reason Ive lost faith in these responses. L2 support has ensured my final purchase of any product of yours.
If you find this post offensive, its probally because Im right. Enjoy your vacation. Dont overwork yourselves trying to update your page. Perhaps you can wander over to the main change service you promised to provide to dig into pockets again. However, we havent heard much beyond 'soon' since Feb. What is NCSoft's defition of 'soon'? Because it doesnt represent any of these (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/soon) definitions according to your customers. Perhaps you should say, 'Coming in the distant future?'
We are around and reading! Yes, it's a Holiday weekend for us. To answer the OP, the images on the website were updated last week. We know the website is not currently updated (Library section) and we dislike that as much as anyone. It is a long process, but it is definitely one of our priorities.
I appreciate all of the concern expressed in this thread, but the doom talk is not accurate or necessary. We aren't going anywhere, Lineage 2 isn't going anywhere, and we are working on many things to improve the game/community/website.
Leaving the thread open to allow for responses, but rage/flame posts will lead us to the path of the padlock. Keep it constructive.
-Moxie
If it would be the highest priority, we had already a new web-site which is everyday updated like a professional enterprise would do it to represent themselfes better.
Official korean web site is the best example.
No offence to the webmasters at NC, but if I as one person can manage to update the skill lists and publish them before the new patch goes live and update the weapons and recipe lists within a week from a new patch then I think that a team of webmasters should be able to do so in less than a week and unlike me you have all you need maybe a week or two before you even publish the PTS.
btw I'm willing to give a helping hand if you need one
You should add base reuse times to the skills, that would be helpful
We are around and reading! Yes, it's a Holiday weekend for us. To answer the OP, the images on the website were updated last week. We know the website is not currently updated (Library section) and we dislike that as much as anyone. It is a long process, but it is definitely one of our priorities.
I appreciate all of the concern expressed in this thread, but the doom talk is not accurate or necessary. We aren't going anywhere, Lineage 2 isn't going anywhere, and we are working on many things to improve the game/community/website.
Leaving the thread open to allow for responses, but rage/flame posts will lead us to the path of the padlock. Keep it constructive.
-Moxie
The lack of a community manager isnt helping the situation you "guys" are all but non existent on the forums. There is no input from anyone from NCsoft you merely show up put down a rumor and disappear, or throw out some useless interview that says nothing in 2 pages of typing. NCsoft cant have a gag order on you all to the point of not actually having comments. Your all players of lineage(i would hope), therefor your opinions are intriguing to us. Tell us things that go on at HQ, tell us why you dont run events which are separate from Korean events, tell us why when you do run events that are similar that the rewards are no where near what they get.
Its frustrating to see job postings with key contributions that they would be making; and feeling like these have not been done for the past year. See below
Could we put a rush on this please, rush but with good selection at same time; really id like to see these requirements for the job met:
Key Contributions:
Community interaction
=> Answer customer queries on official websites, via Private Messages and via email if required
=> Maintain contacts with established fansites to keep them active and informed
Community reporting
=> Monitor forums to gauge mood, demands and general feelings of community
=> Prepare regular community reports to be distributed to internal contacts as required
=> Keep track of community statistics such as board message counts, board trends, registered members, etc.
Liaise between community and developers
=>Gather specific and general feedback from community
=> Direct game feedback to game developers, collectively and to individuals
=> Schedule developer participation in community chats, events, and interviews
=> Coach developers in message board etiquette if required
=> Devise new methods of developer interaction with community (eg blogs, podcasts)
Create and execute competitions for [game]
=> Devise competition rules, research terms and conditions, and write required content for promotions
=> Source prizes, communicate with prize winners and ensure prize delivery
There are no developer participation on forums/no competitions(events) created by NCWEST staff/there are no answers to queries made by us the customers .. atleast any of mine :P (and by the by saying it "bothers us too" or "we are working on it" dont show progress ergo they are not an answer they are you trying to quell the tide without actually putting forth anything.)
We wont get any official answer on this anymore i think. All what should been told, moxie already did. Not very constructive indeed, but well... :rolleyes: At least I hope she continue to read our opinions and understand that we are right and that ncsoft doesnt has any excuses for it.
We wont get any official answer on this anymore i think. All what should been told, moxie already did. Not very constructive indeed, but well... :rolleyes: At least I hope she continue to read our opinions and understand that we are right and that ncsoft doesnt has any excuses for it.
doesn't matter if she understands anything. she has zero power, the most she can do is pass it along.
There's people that play L2, have their own jobs/lives, and still manage websites that are more informative and helpful than the official site has ever been for information. The sad part is, you guys get paid for it.
This is what I call incompetence. NCsoft NA is incompetent. If Moxie or anyone else think this is a flame then show to me and to the community that you guys (NCsoft NA) is competent by putting some really effort in at least the official website, because regarding the bot issues I already lose my faith.
it was sort of insulting, that response. we don't need to be coddled and lied to. anyone who's been around for any decent amount of time has just accepted that this game will never be as good as it should be. we've all accepted that nc likes their bots because they make the most money.
at this point, moxie, the right and responsible thing to do is just have full disclosure with us. tell us what to expect and when. tell us what not to expect and why. hell, maybe even tell us why certain botters seem to be under gm protection? (k that last one is a conspiracy but it's pretty evident.)
it was sort of insulting, that response. we don't need to be coddled and lied to. anyone who's been around for any decent amount of time has just accepted that this game will never be as good as it should be. we've all accepted that nc likes their bots because they make the most money.
at this point, moxie, the right and responsible thing to do is just have full disclosure with us. tell us what to expect and when. tell us what not to expect and why. hell, maybe even tell us why certain botters seem to be under gm protection? (k that last one is a conspiracy but it's pretty evident.)
it was sort of insulting, that response. we don't need to be coddled and lied to. anyone who's been around for any decent amount of time has just accepted that this game will never be as good as it should be. we've all accepted that nc likes their bots because they make the most money.
at this point, moxie, the right and responsible thing to do is just have full disclosure with us. tell us what to expect and when. tell us what not to expect and why. hell, maybe even tell us why certain botters seem to be under gm protection? (k that last one is a conspiracy but it's pretty evident.)
Well put. I for one appreciate the response, Moxie. It's good to know there is somebody on the dev's end somewhat paying attention. However, simply responding with the same thing we've heard a thousand times before doesn't go very far towards calming the community at large. It would be refreshing to have someone who doesn't treat us like children post with honest information rather than simply stalling until they have good news.
Sure, there are people that would freak out if you actually said something like, "We thought we would be able to get feature X ready to go by May but it looks like it might be delayed a bit. We'll provide a new estimated time of arrival as soon as we can." The majority of us, on the other hand, are reasonable people and can understand the difficulties that come with constantly creating content for a game like L2, assuming of course you actually follow up on such a statement.
That being said, simply stating that you're present and working on shiny new things that we shouldn't worry our little heads about until they're finished isn't conducive to a happy community. Be forthright and honest with us and we will return in kind. Keep treating us like children and childlike responses are all you'll get in return.
The lack of a community manager isnt helping the situation you "guys" are all but non existent on the forums. There is no input from anyone from NCsoft you merely show up put down a rumor and disappear, or throw out some useless interview that says nothing in 2 pages of typing. NCsoft cant have a gag order on you all to the point of not actually having comments. Your all players of lineage(i would hope), therefor your opinions are intriguing to us. Tell us things that go on at HQ, tell us why you dont run events which are separate from Korean events, tell us why when you do run events that are similar that the rewards are no where near what they get.
Its frustrating to see job postings with key contributions that they would be making; and feeling like these have not been done for the past year. See below
There are no developer participation on forums/no competitions(events) created by NCWEST staff/there are no answers to queries made by us the customers .. atleast any of mine :P (and by the by saying it "bothers us too" or "we are working on it" dont show progress ergo they are not an answer they are you trying to quell the tide without actually putting forth anything.)
Just my two pennies
But remember, it really was always like this. In fact, it wasn't until Alya that we actually saw more of an open discussion between them and us.
I do believe that NC here in the states did have a clan pvp tournment between servers. That was a great idea and it was a shame that no one picked up the ball on that one.
My thought is that they are constrained by their parent company. There are probably all sorts of things that they can and cannot talk about.
I do agree that it is very frustrating to know that L2 could have been so much but for a variety of reasons never really reached its potential. At least in my opinion.
edit: though I have to add that the current changes and move of the NC offices have probably contributed to a lot of issues. Once things get more settled, especially because they are probably working very hard on new games that are about to be released, things should settle into what we are used to.
it was sort of insulting, that response. we don't need to be coddled and lied to. anyone who's been around for any decent amount of time has just accepted that this game will never be as good as it should be. we've all accepted that nc likes their bots because they make the most money.
at this point, moxie, the right and responsible thing to do is just have full disclosure with us. tell us what to expect and when. tell us what not to expect and why. hell, maybe even tell us why certain botters seem to be under gm protection? (k that last one is a conspiracy but it's pretty evident.)
I was going to post about Moxie reply, but you pretty much express how I feel, so there is no need.
Things like soon or we working on it, doesn't have any value at all anymore, why? because is the same thing we have heard over and over for the past 5 years... The site is outdate because of laziness, there is no excuse other than that... in any decent company that care for their product the web master will be fired within a day if such thing like the web site been outdate happen to them...
Things like we are reading everything in the forum? give me a break, I have see so many people flaming each other for the past week and 0 MODERATION HAS BEEN DONE IN THE FORUMS. In fact most of the most controversial threads concerning features that affect players has 0 responses from the NCSoft staff.
Enjoy your vacation. And hopefully when you guys really return work like no one has ever done before for L2. And start re-reading the especifications of your job and ask yourself the question if your are fullfiling every single aspect of them...
Were getting tired of hearing there will be change :P
Yeah, I think that basically hit the nail on the head. Most of us have been hearing that they are working to do this and that and nothing ever comes of it. It would be better for them to just come out and say: "We really dont plan on doing anything to cut down on the number of people who violate the EULA. And while we still may ban people from time to time, we really dont care about the game or its community."
Yeah, I think that basically hit the nail on the head. Most of us have been hearing that they are working to do this and that and nothing ever comes of it. It would be better for them to just come out and say: "We really dont plan on doing anything to cut down on the number of people who violate the EULA. And while we still may ban people from time to time, we really dont care about the game or its community."
i don't think they just don't care...i think it's just more like they're happy with the tragedy.
i don't think they just don't care...i think it's just more like they're happy with the tragedy.
lol, that's actually pretty funny.
My thought is that whatever success that L2 had/has is due to some great decisions tainted by not so great decisions and then released without a real idea as to what to do "next".
Lineage 2 is a very compelling game. It has its issues of course but it feels like the devs reached for something that would be better than a typical free to play asian grinder, only to succeed and then not really have the tools, foresight, ability to really bring it on home.
It's like the devs had a great opening game but then looked at each other and said "now what?" and then just went back to creating really cool art work for the game and then slapping on whatever their fancy brought them.
There are so many bungled things that it just boggles the mind that they were bungled.
So they release a game but only U.S. timed servers and no Euro servers. Ok, well fine then. But then they release the Euro servers and offer no chance for a transfer. Which then goes in line with the fact that they didn't offer transfers for years even though they were talked about in prelude.
I can't really accept the fact that it took them years to figure out how to do them.
And the foundation of the game was good. But they then proceed to (to my eyes) just slap on bits and pieces of game development that may or may not seem to fit into the game.
Skills that no one uses, game ideas that just never seemed to catch on (does anyone actively use those dragon eggs or whatever they are to create items? I see them for sale on occasion) 7 signs that doesn't quite work when the entire server signs up for one side regardless of whether they should be, Underground Arena... what happened to the Above ground arena (?!?!) etc.
And quite frankly, in the end, I don't really blame the NC West (or whatever they call themselves this year) staff as it just feels like it was NC Korea's call call all along.
It's not like the NC U.S. staff could say "ha HA I thwart you NC Korea! You are wrong and we will do what we think should be done and show you!!!!
And yet there is so much good in this game that it is almost successful despite itself and odd developer decisions. Successful in that it does have a rather die hard and devoted fan base.
But it doesn't feel like there is an active presence. And there were all these posts about how Rust was going to be more active and there was going to be more involvement. And then we had Alyra who really did step up the communication. And then she was no longer there.
I just see it as NC Korea not really giving the proper support to this office and not really being a solid guiding force to the game.
It is however good to see the front Lineage 2 page and know that the 5th anniversary event was extended to May 12. ; )
complete server wipe and merge to one giant NA server with zero-tolerance IP bans on confirmed botting/ebaying.
create a high-rate server for the cheaters...all the bad stuff is allowed and there's no GM moderation except for bugs. if you're caught cheating, you're xferred automatically. after all the cheaters are caught, merge the servers so that all the legit people may continue on our merry way with a new-world-order.
-Lack of Events, we have 1 event every what 2 or 3 months? WoW has events 3-5 times a month depending on what month it is sometimes more.
- Automated GM replies that obviously shows they did not even read the petition, just pick one of the Copy/Paste responces that say the classic "Please re-petition with more information"
- A website that is atleast 2 Chronicles out of date with information, most Fan Site's are 99% current info of the Chronicle that we are on. How can a Fan Site have more information then the offical sites information? Not like the Offical Site doesn't have the same for Reciepes/Bonus/Item Sets/Skills. They are just OLD INFORMATION.
- Constant Locking of threads when players show there emotional dislike of the lack of NCWest doing there job that we pay them for each and every month. I would like to point out most I would say 80% of the people have atleast 2 accounts. $30 a month per person, sometimes as much as like 5 *Legit* depending how many of their family memebrs play the game. Along with how many trains are currently running. You make a TON of money off us and keep us in the dark and tell us we can't get mad you aren't doing anything about it?
- Server Stability/Game Mechanics causing crashes that you blame our computers for when its clearly YOUR coding. When I have 1 Client running FullScreen and it takes 2.5g Ram in TOWN something is wrong with your coding for memory allocation. When people crit doing the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER but have diffrent computer specs so not one commen thing except YOUR GAME then its your code not us.
- Should I even mention the support again? Forum Support for Questions? Sure you guys do events down in TX or where ever it is, is it broadcasted on the main page much? Nope not until couple days before BECAUSE YOU NEVER UPDATE THE MAIN SITE?? Why not do more QA in person and events like my old clan leader got to attend because he lives in Texas in other locations not everyone playing the game lives in TX!!
I"m sorry but there are so many problems that we have been complaining about for years that its just horrible, but we love the game and want to keep playing so we have to pay you to play or go to a private server. If we actually got some help for what we are complainging about 50% of the time we might actually be happy customers but when nothing happens or is done like its promised then yes people are going to be EXTREMELY UNHAPPY.
Sorry I know your new in this job, but because your previous employee's lack of helping the customer leaves it harder for you. For that I am sorry for you, but we pay you, not the other way around. Isn't the saying "customer is always right" something that should be taken into effect in 50% of what I just said?
complete server wipe and merge to one giant NA server with zero-tolerance IP bans on confirmed botting/ebaying.
create a high-rate server for the cheaters...all the bad stuff is allowed and there's no GM moderation except for bugs. if you're caught cheating, you're xferred automatically. after all the cheaters are caught, merge the servers so that all the legit people may continue on our merry way with a new-world-order.
that would be horrible to have in a news stand,
NC-Soft to promote cheating by providing a specific server for cheaters, in other news, blizzard racks up another 40,000 customers.
- Server Stability/Game Mechanics causing crashes that you blame our computers for when its clearly YOUR coding. When I have 1 Client running FullScreen and it takes 2.5g Ram in TOWN something is wrong with your coding for memory allocation. When people crit doing the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER but have diffrent computer specs so not one commen thing except YOUR GAME then its your code not us.
yeah.
that would be horrible to have in a news stand,
NC-Soft to promote cheating by providing a specific server for cheaters, in other news, blizzard racks up another 40,000 customers.
might bring back a ton of old cheaters who buy a ton of extra accounts just to come back? might bring back a ton of old people who quit out of frustration now that there would be a completely legit community.