I have got a big problem:(
I use same computer with another persons just the HDDs not same (everybody have got own and everybody use his own HDDs when he use the computer), so the IP address is same too and here start my problem, one of person play with Silkroad MMO game and i saw that he started use there bot yesterday and i would like to know it that is it hit too the NCsoft rules or not? the Silkroad MMO with his bot program never will open same time when my Lineage 2 accounts or AION account has opened. I started play with Lineage 2 more than 2 years and i would like to play still very very long time, i never cheated in Lineage 2 or AION, I was always legit player and will be too. So what will happend now?
I plan that in days or weeks i buy for me an own computer, but than need share the internet connection so than maybe will some times that silkroad mmo will open too with its program when i play with my Lineage 2, in this situation be any problem or not?
Pls somebody help, i dont want that be any problem with my favorit game and i played with Lineage 2 a lots of time, i dont want hit the NCsoft rules, I would like just play!
Even if, let's say (just an assumption), you DID start botting, and let's assume you have 3 chars and 2 of them are botting. They will only ban 2 botting chars, not your 3-d un-botted char.
Even if, let's say (just an assumption), you DID start botting, and let's assume you have 3 chars and 2 of them are botting. They will only ban 2 botting chars, not your 3-d un-botted char.
ummm totally false information lol. I dont see how that would that violate the EULA for Lineage II. Has nothing to do with this game therefor you SHOULDN'T get banned, but who knows. The things people get banned for these days.
oh rly? Even spam said he would ban the entire party even if he some how miraculously caught even one person in the party botting. Too bad the post is deleted and he is gone to verify this information! And I know from secondhand your information is false ( TRUE STORY! )
Even if, let's say (just an assumption), you DID start botting, and let's assume you have 3 chars and 2 of them are botting. They will only ban 2 botting chars, not your 3-d un-botted char.
Man i never used bot program or any cheat, i never ebayed nothing, I played, play and will play by my hands in Lineage 2 and in AION too. I affraid of from this situation, so when i saw yesterday than this another person started bot on silkroad, after i didnt loggin to Lineage 2 and AION i wait now for comfirmation that i wont will have problem from it that an another person in another game use cheat from same computer and ip address what i have got. I very would like to play but i dont want loggin to game while i dont know that is it violete rule or not.
No, it doesnt break any rules. Thats like saying oh I have hacks for Counter-Strike on my PC im gonna get banned! Even if you were worried about getting banned for the hacks being on the PC, they are on a different HDD and are not running when you play L2. You could have L2 bot programs on your PC not running and I am pretty sure that doesnt even break the EULA.
Man i never used bot program or any cheat, i never ebayed nothing, I played, play and will play by my hands in Lineage 2 and in AION too. I affraid of from this situation, so when i saw yesterday than this another person started bot on silkroad, after i didnt loggin to Lineage 2 and AION i wait now for comfirmation that i wont will have problem from it that an another person in another game use cheat from same computer and ip address what i have got. I very would like to play but i dont want loggin to game while i dont know that is it violete rule or not.
I know, I know. That's why I said: "let's assume".
Even if, let's say (just an assumption), you DID start botting, and let's assume you have 3 chars and 2 of them are botting. They will only ban 2 botting chars, not your 3-d un-botted char.
Not anymore.
oh rly? Even spam said he would ban the entire party even if he some how miraculously caught even one person in the party botting. Too bad the post is deleted and he is gone to verify this information! And I know from secondhand your information is false ( TRUE STORY! )
that is a big LOL and can't ever be true! Just think yourself. You are not responsible for MY actions, only for yours, right? So, If I bot and we are in party you simply CAN"T know if I'm botting or not (don't argue that please). So, how can you be banned for MY botting? - impossible.
that is a big LOL and can't ever be true! Just think yourself. You are not responsible for MY actions, only for yours, right? So, If I bot and we are in party you simply CAN"T know if I'm botting or not (don't argue that please). So, how can you be banned for MY botting? - impossible.
Im just saying what was posted BY GMs on this forum not to long ago. Spam and Kinslon(SP) both stated that THEY WOULD OF BANNED THE ENTIRE PARTY! There was even a 10 page argument saying how ******ed it was.
Even if, let's say (just an assumption), you DID start botting, and let's assume you have 3 chars and 2 of them are botting. They will only ban 2 botting chars, not your 3-d un-botted char.
That would be a first for you. Too bad you are most likely wrong again...
And wth is Silkroads?
PS. Woon, its not that hard to see if a person is botting in a party. Most of the time they assist someone, and then you can send them to their death. And kick them ofc.
That would be a first for you. Too bad you are most likely wrong again...
And wth is Silkroads?
PS. Woon, its not that hard to see if a person is botting in a party. Most of the time they assist someone, and then you can send them to their death. And kick them ofc.
you see, that's the difference. You think that "botting" is autoexping. And what if, let's say some ppl buy bots programs to help them in pvp by spamming qhp qcp pots? ha? Or this is a BD that starts dancing in auto-mode and NOTHING more? You will never realise that he's using bot progs. NEVER.
I wouldnt have a BD in party to only dance. His failure to communicate properly, and the way he assists in fighting would give him away as a bot. After 5 years of playing this game, its not that hard to tell if a char is a bot or not.
I wouldnt have a BD in party to only dance. His failure to communicate properly, and the way he assists in fighting would give him away as a bot. After 5 years of playing this game, its not that hard to tell if a char is a bot or not.
PS. There is a saying: Never say never :D
it seems, you don't understand me. OK... I'll put it in this way.
You and I are partying. You are a Tanks, I'm a BD. I assist you. With MY HANDS, or macros. I ONLY DANCE automatically (using 3-d party prog) after some dances are washed offed. The rest I do by myself. ANd I mean I talk to you... I collect drops... I do everything myself except for dances.
I thought you said the bd was gonna be on bot. If you are doing it all by hand you are no longer botting.
It seems you are the one having trouble understanding.
I don't get it.... you either can't read or understand or both.
A guy may use botting programs to automate his DANCINGS or collecting drops or spamming pots. NOTHING MORE. Can you understand that? So, he will be using 3-d party prog. to help his exping but just not in ful scale.
Clear? ;)
Having said that, you will never know that he's botting. BUt you will be banned (according to other ppls' posts). Isn't that a lol?
I have got a big problem:(
I use same computer with another persons just the HDDs not same (everybody have got own and everybody use his own HDDs when he use the computer), so the IP address is same too and here start my problem, one of person play with Silkroad MMO game and i saw that he started use there bot yesterday and i would like to know it that is it hit too the NCsoft rules or not? the Silkroad MMO with his bot program never will open same time when my Lineage 2 accounts or AION account has opened. I started play with Lineage 2 more than 2 years and i would like to play still very very long time, i never cheated in Lineage 2 or AION, I was always legit player and will be too. So what will happend now?
I plan that in days or weeks i buy for me an own computer, but than need share the internet connection so than maybe will some times that silkroad mmo will open too with its program when i play with my Lineage 2, in this situation be any problem or not?
Pls somebody help, i dont want that be any problem with my favorit game and i played with Lineage 2 a lots of time, i dont want hit the NCsoft rules, I would like just play!
No, it doesnt break any rules. Thats like saying oh I have hacks for Counter-Strike on my PC im gonna get banned! Even if you were worried about getting banned for the hacks being on the PC, they are on a different HDD and are not running when you play L2. You could have L2 bot programs on your PC not running and I am pretty sure that doesnt even break the EULA.
I think the OP was more concerned about someone botting (albeit another program) but from the same IP address - as it would most likely be.
I had a similar issue when a neighbour using my ADSL was "trying out" (hmm really) a bot on L2. ok so I was breaking my ISP rules by "sub-letting" my ADSL (he has no landline phone and pays me to use mine ;) ) but once he joined L2 I kicked him off my Wifi - not worth the risk. 3yrs 6 mths in, and I finally subbed - I ain't gonna risk it.
-Dw
No, u cant get banned. Simply because Silkroad and Lineage2 are different games owned by 2 different companies. You cant be punished for something you do in other thing that does not concern the first thing. Clear?
To be more clear, NCsoft won't give a *** if u bot in other game that is not owned by them. Well, actually they dont give a *** if u bot in their games too, but they have that ******* called EULA so they can ban u anytime they want, even if u are legit.
As long as you don't bot ebay etc (breaker user t&c's) on your account then you are safe...
you have to do something wrong on your account to be banned.
Its like saying my friend who lives 200miles away bots i visit him and play L2 of his pc will i get banned for that?
However take into account the same IP NCsoft my suspect and watch you but if you are as legit as you claim then they are only wasting there time. so gl hf and keep gaming.
You said he was botting in Silkroads right? Then you should not have to worry. Silkroads is a MMO created and run by a different company. Even if he got banned in that game it would not affect you with L2.
The EULA for L2 applies to L2, not to what you or anyone else does in other games.
You said he was botting in Silkroads right? Then you should not have to worry. Silkroads is a MMO created and run by a different company. Even if he got banned in that game it would not affect you with L2.
The EULA for L2 applies to L2, not to what you or anyone else does in other games.
Well, for the most part the EULA for L2 doesnt seem to apply to L2 either.
Its like saying my friend who lives 200miles away bots i visit him and play L2 of his pc will i get banned for that?
Quite possible.
You said he was botting in Silkroads right? Then you should not have to worry.
Not really. Today he is botting in Silkroads, tomorrow he will be botting in Lineage... :D
What the OP is afraid of is the ban by IP address. Those of you who say that this is not the NCSoft policy, you are just plain wrong, as many have been banned for having the same IP log onto their toons that was banned for botting. I guess it's the Birds of a Feather mentality. Ask Nova why they ended up transferring to Sayha.
What the OP is afraid of is the ban by IP address. Those of you who say that this is not the NCSoft policy, you are just plain wrong, as many have been banned for having the same IP log onto their toons that was banned for botting. I guess it's the Birds of a Feather mentality. Ask Nova why they ended up transferring to Sayha.
You people seriously can not read for ****. The OP is worried about his friend botting in a DIFFERENT game, not L2. So if his friend gets banned from Silkroad he is going to get banned in L2? NO! So ask Nova nothing because this isn't even supposed to be about botting in L2.
Oh. Hm. You are right. I seemed to have read that the friend was going to start playing L2, and that is why he is worried. But in rereading it, I see he didn't say that.
So, yah, NCSoft isn't going to ban you for some other game being botted. Lol. They aren't the overlords of the Internet....yet! :D
I don't get it.... you either can't read or understand or both.
A guy may use botting programs to automate his DANCINGS or collecting drops or spamming pots. NOTHING MORE. Can you understand that? So, he will be using 3-d party prog. to help his exping but just not in ful scale.
Clear? ;)
Having said that, you will never know that he's botting. BUt you will be banned (according to other ppls' posts). Isn't that a lol?
Dude, ppl dont put bot program to "only do one thing". They put it to do everything. They wont have the program dance for them but them doing everything else.
You are trying to argue semantics coz your original argument failed, yet you lack the reading comprehension/language skills to do so.
Dude, ppl dont put bot program to "only do one thing". They put it to do everything. They wont have the program dance for them but them doing everything else.
You are trying to argue semantics coz your original argument failed, yet you lack the reading comprehension/language skills to do so.
Gratz on cluelessness Woon.
yeah, right. I think you are so stubborn that you can't even accept smb. is thinking otherwise than you do.
Believe me, not all the ppl use bottings programs to do EVERYTHING for them. Surprised to hear that? Well...that's what happens while you think you know everything. Tons of my friends use bots progs to help them pick up things and do auto buffs. it makes game easier. But they don't use them to do everything for them, because they can't exp 24\7 due to many wars they have etc. etc....
And... about this one: "You are trying to argue semantics coz your original argument failed" I can tell you that, I told that guy that even if HE had been botting in lineage from 2 accounts and had a third one (or a forth one, or a fith one etc. etc.) which wouldn't have used botting programm on them, he won't be banned even in THAT case.
You just don't get me. I'm tired of explaining so obvious things to ya.
Rofl. I dont think your friends are the only ones that use bot progs lol.
Are you actually saying that someone playing a bd would do everything on his own, but have a program click his dances? Thats just absurd. Why would they do that? Why not just click the dances themselves if they are playing the char in all other aspects of it.
Gratz on "I ignore stuff, or just misunderstand stuff, whatever works for that situation" Woon!
PS. Those friends of yours, they live on IOP also? :D
Rofl. I dont think your friends are the only ones that use bot progs lol.
Are you actually saying that someone playing a bd would do everything on his own, but have a program click his dances? Thats just absurd. Why would they do that? Why not just click the dances themselves if they are playing the char in all other aspects of it.
Gratz on "I ignore stuff, or just misunderstand stuff, whatever works for that situation" Woon!
PS. Those friends of yours, they live on IOP also? :D
they are everywhere. IOP is gonna be renamed into isle of bots, you know :)
Those friends of mine are heroes and are everywhere around you. In every clan. You know, it's much easier to click assist button (only) then collect all the drops, do dances, spam qhp pots etc... don't you think?
Grats on "I don't believe in smart bots" Smi ;P
P.S. Have you checked lately? Cause I'm not on IOP for faar too long now :p
Is that why ppl on this forum keep pming me saying they run by your botspot every day? And even play bot ping pong with you targeting your mobs so you run to another?
No bot is smart enough to make me not notice it. I've played this game for 5 years now, it doesnt take very long to see bot-pattern on a toon.
Had you played your toon live you would have been able to tell also.
you see, that's the difference. You think that "botting" is autoexping. And what if, let's say some ppl buy bots programs to help them in pvp by spamming qhp qcp pots? ha? Or this is a BD that starts dancing in auto-mode and NOTHING more? You will never realise that he's using bot progs. NEVER.
You might not notice. But if you are just a little bit observant its really quite easy to see who uses a bot for buffers, or for pot spam.
On the other hand if you have a BD doing everything manually and dancing with a bot then there is no way a GM would ever catch him. So you(or him for that matter) would have nothing to worry about as far as banning goes.
Is that why ppl on this forum keep pming me saying they run by your botspot every day? And even play bot ping pong with you targeting your mobs so you run to another?
No bot is smart enough to make me not notice it. I've played this game for 5 years now, it doesnt take very long to see bot-pattern on a toon.
Had you played your toon live you would have been able to tell also.
I'll start with you first. No, I'm not on IOP check your info lol. The most important thing you think you know who I play in the game for? Has it ever occured to you that I could register a char on the forum named: Scurd\Moichi\K1netic\ArtemisDeiana.... etc. ? lol
so, yeah, I'm prolly still on IOP hehe (haven't checked for a long time now. Oops?)
Ppl on this forum pmming you about some boter at some server? wow. I thought you could've came out with much better lie :D
P.S. I should pm this guy to tell him switch to force atack mobs. lolen
You might not notice. But if you are just a little bit observant its really quite easy to see who uses a bot for buffers, or for pot spam.
On the other hand if you have a BD doing everything manually and dancing with a bot then there is no way a GM would ever catch him. So you(or him for that matter) would have nothing to worry about as far as banning goes.
I notice and I understand it perfectly when there's a botting mode on.
I'll start with you first. No, I'm not on IOP check your info lol. The most important thing you think you know who I play in the game for? Has it ever occured to you that I could register a char on the forum named: Scurd\Moichi\K1netic\ArtemisDeiana.... etc. ? lol
so, yeah, I'm prolly still on IOP hehe (haven't checked for a long time now. Oops?)
Ppl on this forum pmming you about some boter at some server? wow. I thought you could've came out with much better lie :D
P.S. I should pm this guy to tell him switch to force atack mobs. lolen
Ppl on your server knows who you are. They have run by your bot party numerous times. You can deny this all you want, I'm being told there is a video in the making lol.
that is a big LOL and can't ever be true! Just think yourself. You are not responsible for MY actions, only for yours, right? So, If I bot and we are in party you simply CAN"T know if I'm botting or not (don't argue that please). So, how can you be banned for MY botting? - impossible. You might want to clarify this a bit. Knowone can really know if someone in thier party is running a bot program if they are actually there playing the character unless......
That person goes automated then its totaly obvious. If you automate buffs it gets obvious. There are a couple other things to watch for that can make it obvious like someone asking why a survitor's name is black :eek: but if the person is there chatting and playing thier character and only a few things are automated like heal pots and such it is pretty much impossible to tell if someone is using a bot program. Easiest way to tell is just observing buff slaves. Big difference between 2boxing and buff bots no matter how good someone say they are at 2 or more boxing its easy to tell the difference.
No, it doesnt break any rules. Thats like saying oh I have hacks for Counter-Strike on my PC im gonna get banned! Even if you were worried about getting banned for the hacks being on the PC, they are on a different HDD and are not running when you play L2. You could have L2 bot programs on your PC not running and I am pretty sure that doesnt even break the EULA.
he didnt get banned by Lineage u dopes he got banned by the hacking protection software shared by both games...-_-
lineage had nothing to do with it.
And Yes If it wasnt ur account on ur computer, you can buy a new one and the Tag on your account on Lineage wont do anything to u
You might want to clarify this a bit. Knowone can really know if someone in thier party is running a bot program if they are actually there playing the character unless......
That person goes automated then its totaly obvious. If you automate buffs it gets obvious. There are a couple other things to watch for that can make it obvious like someone asking why a survitor's name is black :eek: but if the person is there chatting and playing thier character and only a few things are automated like heal pots and such it is pretty much impossible to tell if someone is using a bot program. Easiest way to tell is just observing buff slaves. Big difference between 2boxing and buff bots no matter how good someone say they are at 2 or more boxing its easy to tell the difference.
You can tell if someone runs a program to automate any part of what they do. They can run it and not use it, then of course you wont be able to tell. But if they use any of the functions you will be able to see it.
I notice and I understand it perfectly when there's a botting mode on.
Did you not just say in your other post you couldn't? O_o
he didnt get banned by Lineage u dopes he got banned by the hacking protection software shared by both games...-_-
lineage had nothing to do with it.
And Yes If it wasnt ur account on ur computer, you can buy a new one and the Tag on your account on Lineage wont do anything to u
wut? No where did he say anything about anyone even being banned..and if yo uare referring to gameguard well, gameguard does NOT ban your account. All game guard does is stop L2 from running if something is detected. **** gameguard used to even stop L2 from running if you had winamp open, **** is a joke.
Did you not just say in your other post you couldn't? O_o
Mr. Tiger, I'm trying to point out that I myself can invite to a private server, log in a botting program and party you for the whole day, talking to you in skype\msn\ventrilo meanwhile watching a movie or playing some other game at the same time. And you will not notice that. That's what I meant.
You can use bot programs for botting, yeah, and you can use them to ease your life in lineage. Different goals, different behaviour of ppl who are using them. And, of course, different attitude from *legit* players.
So, once again. I can use bot and you will not notice it. or, I can use bot, and you will. It depends on what you\me are trying to achieve\nottice. :)
Simple as that.
Mr. Tiger, I'm trying to point out that I myself can invite to a private server, log in a botting program and party you for the whole day, talking to you in skype\msn\ventrilo meanwhile watching a movie or playing some other game at the same time. And you will not notice that. That's what I meant.
You can use bot programs for botting, yeah, and you can use them to ease your life in lineage. Different goals, different behaviour of ppl who are using them. And, of course, different attitude from *legit* players.
So, once again. I can use bot and you will not notice it. or, I can use bot, and you will. It depends on what you\me are trying to achieve\nottice. :)
Simple as that.
oh rly? Even spam said he would ban the entire party even if he some how miraculously caught even one person in the party botting. Too bad the post is deleted and he is gone to verify this information! And I know from secondhand your information is false ( TRUE STORY! )
I remember this well also when he said that...basically it was if you were the lone non-botter in a botted group then you would probably get banned also. Reason being that it would be hard for you NOT to know everybody else was. One example was the guy who sits the a cata hallway while a botted party levels him up. It's an obvious example, but a good one. The guy couldn't honestly say with a straight face that he didnt know he was being leveled by a bot party. He did also say that if there was one botter in a party of non-botters then only the one person would get banned, not the entire party. Where the break-point is, I dont know. Will the entire party be banned if 3 or 4 are botting...etc. Who knows.
For dances and things I'm sure people bot that all the time. I am horrible when it comes to dances/songs and always have party members telling me to sing or dance because I'm not paying attention. If I were to use a bot program (NOTE: I DONT) I would only put dances or songs on so I wouldnt have to worry about that while I keep playing normally, so I dont think woonaloow is too far off for some people. There are probably a lot of pvp folks out there who use the radar and maybe have their bsoe automated but otherwise are playing normally. That would be hard to detect unless you were using a program also and could see at what hp or % he was using his bsoe.
Ashleigh...make a Macro that Dances and then sends a message to yourself to Dance.
Say you were gonna do a 3 dance Macro
1st line of Macro....drag the dance you want
2nd line of Macro... drag the dance you want
3rd line of Macro... drag the dance you want
4th line of Macro.../delay 110
5th line of Macro..."Ashleigh Time to Dance
You can adjust the delay by changing the 110. You can also follow the tank (or whoever) by putting on the 6th line..... /target [name of the tank or whoever you want to follow] And if you want stay closer to the tank or whoever put on line 7..../attack.
Remember that once you start the macro you can't take any action until its finished.
Also it may take a few runthroughs until the Macro works or at least thats what happens to me when i first start to use a new one. I have to use it a few times before it actually works :)