Server merges ?

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We have heard of rumors of server merges again. Which would be awesome. But is this in the works again or just rumors? Thanks
Not happening, the last ones failed, they are not going to do it again unless you want the merged servers merged again there is no possibilty of merges.

Dev and Bartz are servers physically located in different locations so they cannot merge with each other. (Yea yea i know its possible but you would make half the people made because it would change their ping rate.)

All the other servers have been merged so you would have to merge then again and really make people mad.

So give it up no merges.
Yea, kick some life in the remaining L2 servers and make all servers US/EU time zone.

Castle Siege, Terri Battle and Olympiads for both US and EU players.

When NSsoft is at it, west-alize the game :P

1.) Increase base exp 10x
2.) Increase Adena and Mat drop rate 10x
3.) Remove the 60% and 70% crafts

This will get more new customers and decrease adena selling and possible later on even the bottings.
Maybe ppl will have a chance to get a decent hig level before they get bored out and quit before even comming there.

Why not do something dramatially about the situation at a time where we se less real ppl playing te game.
If the producers are going to "do something dramatically"--then Wow-ifying L2 isn't necessarily the course I would suggest.

They should start with a comprehensive overhaul of the drop tables. These continue to foundationally confront real players and cause problems. The C1 drop tables + adds is what we have today--a complete rework is long overdue.

They should also spend some significant time on quests & raidbosses & their instanced work from the past 3 chronicles or so. The raidbosses & instances should all be amended so that their rewards are worthwhile and so that NONE of them are solo-able in any way. The quests should be streamlined, corrected where necessary, and have their rewards updated significantly to the present game environment.

The producers should also consider Vitality changes. Vitality for level 1-61 should be eliminated or reduced. For 75+ it should be INCREASED.

Basically, new players need some increased support and a cost-of-living increase which is long overdue.

These would be my suggestions for FIRST major and dramatic changes to L2--not 10x servers-which will simply not work in the game's present format.

Mergers? They will happen when NCSoft decides they should. They will probably be handled by the company no better than they were the first time.
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Close this topic please.

plz!
Yes, close topic please, discussed to death again and again and again and again and ....

NO! Don't want them, for reason listed soooo many times.
All server Bots together in one place? Not thinking enough $$$ would be made by NC due to all the BOTS complaining about BOTS... some would threaten to quit!
yup close this thread or we discuss BOTS again! QQ
Oo think about all the /ragequit because clans will lose their clanhalls/castles AGAIN and double names and such O.O another merge will be baaaaaad!

Though what I wouldn't give to see bottrains complaining about bottrains in their fields :D
Given the bot train to legit person ratio, its not a good idea to have too many players on one server.
Remember all the problems from last time with server DC's ,people complaining about losing clan halls , all the lagg issues , not enough clan halls for "EBAYERS" , and this list just keeps going. Yea they could save themselves some money and only have 2 servers since they don't want to waste any money on this one unless they absolutely have too it seems, why would they want to when they are hoping we all quit to go play AION.
Remember all the problems from last time with server DC's ,people complaining about losing clan halls , all the lagg issues , not enough clan halls for "EBAYERS" , and this list just keeps going. Yea they could save themselves some money and only have 2 servers since they don't want to waste any money on this one unless they absolutely have too it seems, why would they want to when they are hoping we all quit to go play AION.

Yeah, the only problem is that NCSoft isn't advertising their ability to run an mmo to good are they? I don't know about you guys, but there's no way I would play aion even if they made the game free.........unless it would be run by Arenanet (they do a magnificent job on Guild Wars, and if Guild Wars 2 turns out to be a true mmo, my L2 days will be over)
Rather then do merges, they need to find new and innovative ways to add more players to the game and bring back those who have quit. Adding a F2P model where Premium accts still pay the monthly sub but allowing free download of game and a partial package with a cash shop for content and gear would add alot of new blood for allowing players to join the game solely on a cash shop model might be worth looking at. Well at least IMO. Which may not be worth much. heh.
or another way, could be to lower the monthly sub. $9.99 a month could add some people. Just an idea -- and ya, I know -- it will never happen. But, when something goes on sale, people who never would have bought suddenly start buying.
I find it pretty interesting there are players here that enjoy playing on a server that has at most 100-200 active real live players at a time. I know since ive returned to the game recently my old server (Bartz) seems all but completely frozen, stiff and dead.

I personally believe people protesting *against* server merges have interior motives fueling their feelings and they feel if more competition/botters/adena is brought to their server they will no longer earn enough assets to justify their troubles.


Its ok to not want merges. Its ok.

Its not ok to keep saying a dead game is thriving and doing well when anyone with an IQ above .05 will know you are absolutely full of . We need more mergers or we need more advertisement to get new players.

And LOL at the person that said vitality should be increased for 75+ and eliminated for pre 75.... Are you delusional?

There are two reasons this game doesnt have millions of players;

1. Bots

2. It takes (literally) thousands and thousands and thousands of hours to even get within view of the current content.

A fully legit player that doesnt understand how unbelievably unfair this game is will absolutely turn around and walk away if he spends thousands and thousands of hours leveling up and finding grinding out billions of adena (which is thousands and thousands of more hours) only to learn that 95% of anyone he faces will be using illegal third party programs to cheat in PvE, and please dont beleive their are no programs that allow cheating in PvP. Boy was i suprised when my old clan-mates updated me last night on the current "must haves" of l2. What a ing joke.

Every single avenue i have examined in this game is nothing but cheaters with very, very few that isnt classified as such.

Get real. If you dont think this game needs changes (on a large scale) you are delusional.
oh plz.... never start this topic again...
I find it pretty interesting there are players here that enjoy playing on a server that has at most 100-200 active real live players at a time. I know since ive returned to the game recently my old server (Bartz) seems all but completely frozen, stiff and dead.

Phoenix here, so no idea about bartz, but phoenix is still pretty lively with nice server drama and lots of pvp.

I personally believe people protesting *against* server merges have interior motives fueling their feelings and they feel if more competition/botters/adena is brought to their server they will no longer earn enough assets to justify their troubles.

Dude, do you like being ignorant? People have already named lots of reasons why another merge is a bad idea.....

My clan does not have a clanhall, and I'm pretty sure noone will ever steal my name......

Think about this, you have a clanhall, paid good adena for it, then the server merges and you lose your clanhall.

Though from your reply I can already make up you're some scrub that never really thinks of how the other players in the game may feel.
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Think about this, you have a clanhall, paid good adena for it, then the server merges and you lose your clanhall.
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We paid 2.65 billion very hard earned cash for our clan hall, before the adena limit was increased.
A server merge would mean we "get back what we paid" i.e 2 billion, (650m short).
We then have to try and re-buy against a lot of people who have (by legal or other means) FAR in excess of what we could ever hop to raise, (even the 650m would be hard to re create)..

That's my story, but what of the clans who have owned a clan hall since forever began.. I know someone who paid less than 100m for their hall - that wouldn't even pay for curtains these days...

:(

Server merges, for me it's a no.

(*or how about MORE clan halls if you do merge... that could sway me)
(*or how about MORE clan halls if you do merge... that could sway me)

Good idea, but that would mean work, and we all know how NCSoft thinks about work......

Letting ppl share a clanhall would be hilarious though :p especially if you get into a war with your 'roommate' :D
How about Clan hall Ships - they continuously fly around the Aden continent and it's just luck where you happen to SoE/BSoE to ;)

Alternatively moor some up at the seaside ports, there is a lot of real-estate out there that's not in use yet.
2. It takes (literally) thousands and thousands and thousands of hours to even get within view of the current content.


2140 hours for a legit no-lifer :)

thats 3 months =p which is quite possible to make.. but as i said.. gotta be a no-lifer ... so .. thousand and thousand wouldve been enough =p
We paid 2.65 billion very hard earned cash for our clan hall, before the adena limit was increased.
A server merge would mean we "get back what we paid" i.e 2 billion, (650m short).
We then have to try and re-buy against a lot of people who have (by legal or other means) FAR in excess of what we could ever hop to raise, (even the 650m would be hard to re create)..

That's my story, but what of the clans who have owned a clan hall since forever began.. I know someone who paid less than 100m for their hall - that wouldn't even pay for curtains these days...


Getting the money is not so much the problem (the auction limit for clan halls is STILL exactly 2b), the problem is that EVERYBODY can bid for the clan halls after a server merge, so it will be a mad rush to the auctioneer during the first seconds after the server is up. End result will be (as it was e.g. on Phoenix) that some clans will be lucky and get a clan hall again (though probably not the same one they had and maybe a lesser quality one instead), some HUGE end game clans will NOT get a clan hall anymore, which kinda sucks if you have a lvl 11+ clan with 150+ members (which more likely than not is a result of several clans merging together into one which HAD a clan hall on the old server), some clan halls will be picked up by smaller non-factor clans and the rest will be grabbed by really small clans with suspiciously rich players who just got lucky and logged on quickly enough.
I am waiting for the people that ruined this game to move over to Aion...who knows maybe then this game might have a chance.

Doesn't seem that will ever happen cause they will squeeze every penny out of L2 until they finally kill it.

QQ
The people who ruined the game will stay here to enjoy it.

Those who are tired of the cheaters will go to Aion for a fresh start.

The opinion of my clan is that NC will wait to see if Aion is a hit or miss first before they think about merging L2 servers again; gives us at least a year. There is still lots of life in L2, for all its faults it is still going.
Yah, the clan hall thing really sucks.... especially when there are so many empty buildings sitting around that could be converted into clan halls to accommodate the mergers.
When there's a server merge, how NC deal with the clan hall things? And char names? And clan names? Someone care to explain plz?
When there's a server merge, how NC deal with the clan hall things? And char names? And clan names? Someone care to explain plz?

They don't :p

Double names will be reset and given to the first person who is online and reclaims.

So ppl with an actual life and jobs and such are screwed.
****, thats pretty sux. So if someone worked hard for a clan hall or a clan lv 8+ and theres a server merge they will just lose it? I'd sue NCSoft if I got damaged with this merge thing.
bad things about the server merge is Clan Hall and Name Change or Clan name, :(

But now talk about good new's :rolleyes:

Who wanna play in an server where have no more the 1200 ppl online, where 50% or more are bot ?
That's why server transfer exists :).
bad things about the server merge is Clan Hall and Name Change or Clan name, :(

But now talk about good new's :rolleyes:

Who wanna play in an server where have no more the 1200 ppl online, where 50% or more are bot ?

and you think the % of bots will go down with a merge?

Face it, a server merge has no good side, only bad things will come from it
Transfers have their drawbacks too... especially for those of us who have more than one augmented weapon and multiple armors. And everything, like enchant stones, mats of all kinds, and supplies of all kinds poof gone. There are those that say "just buy it when you get to the new server" -- well, easier said than done.
well maybe they should merge aria and sayha and maybe bartz but i really hope they won't touch phoenix.
Hopefully not... Since Phoenix is one of the most populated so I dont see a reason to merge it with other server.
Phoenix already went through a merge so I think all my fellow players on the server will agree that it should be left out of any more merges. We had our fun with the merges so I say we let the servers that didn't merge have the fun of merging since a group of the player base is looking for a free server transfer.

I know your not gonna find a server where 100% of the server will agree to transfer so why did this get brought back up? If you think your servers dead you already have server transfers so why doesn't that player base take advantage of it instead of dragging along the server when like I already said not everyone want's a transfer. Forcing your will on others to get a free transfer becuase your unhappy with your server and too poor to pay to leave isn't cool.
Bartz is quite fine thankyou very much.

Plenty of people for everything here and a strong balanced economy.

Could always use more people but hey, so could all the servers.

Only complaint is that we have too few top level clans right now, but that changes every so often so that too will balance out as things go forward.
imo NCsoft is making a ton more money from whole clans moving servers all the time now. they would be dumb to merge them atm.

PS: STOP POSTING ABOUT SERVER MERGES ITS FRICKING ANNOYING