Moxie Q&A - Answers!

Hello Everyone!

Thank you all for submitting your questions through Lyzira. I appreciate your enthusiasm and hope that this section will provide a good place for us to communicate on a more regular basis.

In regards to the answers, please know that I answered as many of them as I could that were within my knowledge. There are some answers that can be better answered by other teams, so I'd like to let them address those. I combined many of the questions into one answer, as we had repeat inquiries throughout the thread.

Again, thanks very much for participating!



1. "Working on the game"—What exactly is your job? I thought all changes are made in Korea!? Can you explain what your job entails/what you do as an associate producer?
My job as assistant producer is to assist the producer with any requests he has. This may mean helping organize tasks for other teams, gathering information the producer may need for a report, or getting information another team may need to complete a task. I also streamline communication and scheduling between all teams that work on Lineage II so that information is easy to obtain, tasks and goals are transparent, and schedules between all teams are clear. As many of you know, when I began this job, we didn't have a community manager, so I temporarily helped out with some community tasks, as well.

2. What made you decide to work in the MMO industry?
I’ve played games for as long as I can remember. I remember taking quarters from my dad's coin stash and sneaking across the street to play Super Mario Arcade at the convenience store when I was 10. It’s just a natural part of my life. So when the opportunity came up to work for a game company, the decision to work on games was a pretty easy one.

3. How long have you been involved with MMOs?
My first MMO was EverQuest. I started playing it when it came out, so I guess that would put me at right about the 10-year mark.

4. What does the nickname "Moxie" mean, or where did you get it/come across it?
Moxie is a combination of my real life nickname “Moe” and an online nickname I used for a long time that had “Pixie” in it. When I joined the QA team in 2007, I had to choose a nickname for the Team Bios page. I originally chose "Moejito," but had no plans of using it long term. When I moved into my new role, I thought for awhile about it and settled on Moxie.

5. Is that your kitty in the avatar?
I think you may have mistaken me for your wonderful community manager, Lyzira.

6. How do you like Seattle?
I love it! It’s a fantastic city and seems to be a good hub for NCsoft West.

7. Does anyone really care about our proposals for the game that we post here? I mean, is there a chance that changes will be done because of our posts? Do you think you can influence NCsoft Korea's decisions at least at some point (talking about game suggestions)?
Yes, the team here at NCsoft West definitely cares about the suggestions and proposals players make for the game, and these are sent to the development team in Korea. It may not seem like it since we don’t handle the development here in the West, but many of the changes to the game, like the vitality system which makes the game so much more accessible, are made in part due to your suggestions. We hear you, we care, and we definitely make sure that the development team in Seoul knows what you are saying about Lineage II.

8. Will this team stay longer? The L2 team changes all the time. . . .Why?
Speaking in general, games that have already had a long life tend to have staff members move on to other projects and have replacements for those folks move in. Also speaking in general, all companies have to make adjustments now and then in order to align themselves appropriately with current expectations. These two realities are the main reasons we have seen so many shifts in the Lineage II team in the last year. We feel the changes we went through as a company and as a team were ultimately positive for Lineage II. We now have a very solid team who is in place, and we are comfortable with our roles. Most of us have been involved with Lineage II for quite a long time. We’re all dedicated and very excited to be where we are.

9. Can we maybe expect new NCsoft US-only events, not only copies from Asia?
We have seen events in the past that were unique to Lineage II, as in they had not been run on the Korean servers when they went live on our servers. The Saving Santa Event from last holiday season was unique to all overseas territories and had not been used on the Korean servers. This event was a U.S. priority event and other territories were able to run the event with our approval. Additionally, the April Fool’s Event was initially run simultaneously in several territories, including the U.S. Events are not only fun, but an important part of the gameplay experience, so we will continue to provide these on a regular basis. Unfortunately, no territory has the luxury of running unique events every month, so we will continue to choose events we hope you will most enjoy.

10. With all the fuss about Aion at the moment, can we be assured there is going to be any effort put into L2 beyond the Gracia update?
Yes, you can be assured that we will continue to work as diligently as possible to get the next expansion to you in good condition and as quickly as possible. While there may be a lot of focus on Aion, our team is dedicated solely to Lineage II. Additionally, the development team in Korea is dedicated solely to Lineage II.

11. Is there any way to explain why/how Korea's updates seem to be about 6 months in advance of ours? Is it just simply down to translations, or is it more complicated?
The process of implementing new expansions to our server is definitely complicated. I wish it were as simple as just translating some text and being done with it. However, during the localization process, there are many, many thousands of files that must go through translation and multiple levels of editing. It sounds simple when explained in one short sentence, but coming from a team that works directly with the process, I can attest to how time-consuming it is. Our long-term goal is to close the gap between the time Korea launches an expansion and when we do, but in order to get things ready to be played in English, there will always be delays. This time gap is largely dependent on how much text changes between expansions, as well as other technical factors that sometimes come into play.

12. How long did it take to design and implement the Master of Enchanting Event, and what effort goes into one of these events?
This is a question specifically for the Korean development team that creates all of the events. We’ll submit this for the next Q&A session with that team!

13. Do you play Lineage II now? What other MMORPGs have you played or experienced?
Yes, I play Lineage II now. I’ve played quite a few MMOs. Of course, I have played the regular NCsoft titles. My first ever MMO was EverQuest, to which I was highly addicted for a few years. I've played Planetside, Dark Age of Camelot, and World of Warcraft. I tried many other titles, too, but didn’t quite dig them. While I love MMOs, I’ve also spent my fair share of time in FPS games. I quite enjoy a good shooter now and then.

14. What does your workspace in NCsoft West look like? Seriously, I have no idea what the inside of a MMORPG company looks like and am very curious. Pictures are welcomed. ^.^
I’ll snap a few pics for you.

This picture is of our reception area when you enter our offices.

http://www.lineage2.com/news/images/office2.jpg (http://lineage2.com)


This picture is of our open work area.

http://www.lineage2.com/news/images/office3.jpg

15. Will there be an update to the Team Bios? It would be helpful to know who is part of the L2 team.
Yes! This is one of the many web changes we’re focusing on. There are a few other sections of the site we’d put a higher priority on, but we’ll definitely get this section updated.

16. Are there gonna be Vitality events?
We’re planning to! We’ve heard the response to the other Vitality-centric events we’ve run, and the response is overwhelmingly positive. We take your responses into consideration when we delve into upcoming event possibilities. On the flip side, we don’t want to ruin the genuine joy that people have when playing Vitality-centric events by running them regularly. They’re a special treat, and we want everyone to keep the excitement level up when those types of events go up.

17. Is there any work going on to speed up the banning process of third-party program users?
Yes. I can’t go into detail about how it works, but I can tell you, yes, there are new methods being used.

18. Is your job stressful, or is it chill?
A little of both. Sometimes, it’s pretty chill, even if I’m in the middle of a work storm, because I truly enjoy what I do. Sometimes, those work storms can be stressful because while it’s a great job, it’s still a job, and even the best job in the world comes with stress.

19. If you could do it all over again, would you "reroll"?
I don’t think I would change anything. My history with the company has really helped me with my current job, and I’m thankful for all of the time I spent in other departments.

20. Why is publicity about L2, to be generous, very, very, very rare?
This is a very difficult topic. While we would love to have advertising and exposure everywhere all the time, the reality is we have a budget we must work with, and that budget doesn’t exactly lend itself to many areas of advertising or promotions. We’re in the process of exploring new media opportunities for communicating with our players, as well as trying to find other people who might be interested in trying out Lineage II. These new options might be solutions to help us promote the game and they might not. Our hope is to find a good venue where we can appeal to a larger audience.

21. To increase the confidence of the player community in the work of the GMs, regarding the banning of cheaters, have you considered putting a list in the site, updated daily, of the banned players?
We are still considering this possibility.

22. Why isn't the site yet updated? What is the current workload/process to getting our website back up-to-date? The former team made a "to do" list with our wishes from the Site and Forum Issues section. Does it still exist? The Lineage II home page needs a lot of care.
The site isn’t updated for a variety of reasons that have been touched on here. I would list them again, but honestly, it’s something we know must get done as quickly as possible, and it is a priority. I’d rather just deliver an updated website as quickly as we can rather than list reasons that it is not currently updated.

23. Are those dimension merchant NPCs standing near warehouses going to work in any foreseeable future? Will our community ever see missing game features (extra character slot, vitamin manager, etc.)?
Our hope is to provide as many Lineage II features to our players as possible. Right now, I don’t have any specifics about which features we will introduce or when, but we do discuss the possibilities, and of course will update you when we can.

24. How is Spam doing at the new place, and do the old mods still allow him to come play at lunch with them?
I’ve heard Spam is doing well in his new position and everyone still gets along swimmingly!

25. When is the next developer discussion going to take place?
I’ll let Lyzira broach this subject at a later date. I can say it is in the works.

26. What you feel when you check this forum and see so many people complaining about the lack of more interaction from the NCsoft community?
When I check the forums, I see players who are very vocal and passionate about the game they love. I’m reminded of a legacy we are entering into where players were used to a certain level of communication, and they are unhappy with a perceived change to it. I know a high post count from my end will likely not change this perception, as our players have heard it all. I understand that the best way to change the perception on the forums is to provide results, so that’s what I’d like to focus on.

27. Why L2, and why now?
I’ve been with NCsoft for close to four years and have worked in some capacity with Lineage II in all of my positions. It was a natural progression for me, and I’m really happy to be a part of the Lineage II team.

28. Is the situation about bots ever gonna change? Why don't you guys (staff) ban confirmed bots right away? I heard from someone on some forums that some GMs after detecting a bot, simple teleport them to another spot (to die in mobs or something). Did your policy change? Please answer me that, I'm curious.
Yes, I believe the issues people experience with bots will be changing. Our GMs have been working on new, more precise ways to identify characters that are using third-party programs to automate their gameplay. I believe these new processes will allow them to be more efficient in identifying and removing these characters from the game.

29. What are your personal goals and things you would like to accomplish while being a part of this company?
I really just want to learn as much as I can about the process of making good games and delivering them to players who love to play.

30. What do you think of the competition that Lineage has in the MMO world—such as WoW?
I see competition as a good thing, as I think any company striving for success would. Successful games bring more gamers to the fold! I think there are fantastic games out there that are just fun to play. I think Lineage II is also a fun game to play, but with magnificent depth. There are so many intricate systems within Lineage II, it’s mind-boggling.

Thank you Moxie for answering all of these questions! We'll be taking more questions soon for another Q&A right here in the Dev Corner so check back soon.

Thanks, Moxie, for your answers, although they are pretty generic :D I imagine it is hard to really answer anything.

I would like to talk about the events... There is no doubt that we love the events. It's actually sweet to watch these hardcore pvpers get like children when the events offer up prizes ... hahaha.

Of course the Saving Santa event had to be NA oriented! It was really a fantastic event, and a lot of fun... It was such a treat to have Santa pop up next to you and hand you that package!! The buffs scrolls were incredible. Also gave us a chance to use weapons we would never probably get to use (+16 etc etc). The best thing about it was that no matter what character/class you play, you could get that visit and those buffs and weapon tickets. Also, it was really in the theme of the Holiday.

In other events that have happened since then, particularly the GK event, it really prohibited me from participating in my normal game-playing role of healer. Other support classes could participate, like the Warcryer or the Bladedancer, Elven Elder.. but not my class. There is no way I could transform into a GK and keep my party alive in the places where we hunt. Even the Valentine's event, I couldn't really grab the pots to get the prizes, because I stand away from the damage, and someone is there picking things up. I could get my hands on one here and there, but eventually just gave up.

I know these things come up after the event is done and sometimes just can't be foreseen. So I thought I would just put it in there.

On the subject of Advertising, it is really too bad that there couldn't be more priority on it. Lineage2 is not a game for all gamers, as it can be pretty harsh, but it is rich and complicated and a challenge for so many that want more than a simple game.

wow, thx for answers! :)

:D cool... much appreciated!

Tks for the answers. Wish now to see that all work you say that you guys do, to give us some good results. Cause if we can give you guys a score i bet it will be lower than avarege.

It went up a bit after Lyzira efforts, but still we need to see more.

Give us the ban list (this will prove to people that they'r effort reporting is not a waste).
Give us a decent website content (the actual website is outdated, have unfinished works, and have no good tools or precise info. I think i dont need to say the names of the sites that simple puts l2 one at the trash do i?)

The saving santa event was the best event ever, even though it wasn't perfectly implemented (like at the beginning only ppl in combat can get the present, which i'm glad they changed it; and some miscommunication at the end about the scrolls etc...) but still I loved it a lot; especially all classes benefits from the event.

I definiately hope that there will be more NA oriented events in the future, as it does appeal better to the NA demographic.

I saw some ppl with no hair at the working area.

Wondering why...

I saw some ppl with no hair at the working area.

Wondering why...

and I thought, NC's office would be waaaaaayyy bigger!

Isent it hard for the receptionist to talk to people that come in with a big picture plack in the way?

Thanks for the Q&A and hoping that what you say will bear truth not just hope. Still very nice.

Thank you very much for your answers Moxie. :)

I really hope the NCSoft HQ finally start to realize the importance of advertising a high quality product has is L2, and invest real money in the European and North American market, because L2 isn't so famous as deserve because of poor divulgation in his target market, and some others companies take that place (Blizzard...).

And more people is always good to the servers and the finances!;)

Divulgation!! I love that kinda talk :D

Our GMs have been working on new, more precise ways to identify characters that are using third-party programs to automate their gameplay. I believe these new processes will allow them to be more efficient in identifying and removing these characters from the game.

Why do you just remove the characters from the game and not the persons behind the characters? Botters are bad persons, we don't want them among us.
At elliebelly.net anybody who posts adena ads or nonsense like that gets mercilessly and without further warning IP banned. They never come back. IP address banning works. Credit card number banning works.

*passes BEER :D Thank You Moxie -That was an awesome interview! I think we smell cleaner air?

Thank you for your responses. Good to hear Spam is being taken care of after jumping ship (j/k)....

These players and especially the people that take the time to post on the site just really want this to be the best that it can be.

I would like to offer that you post ideas for events in the same way you posted for questions to you. I think there were some bomb old events that should be brought back for the noobies in the game and some new ideas from the community for new / different events.

Anyways, welcome to the machine. Watch your step ....

yada yada yada blah blah, that's all I read here.
when are you finally going to pay attention to us low lifes ( read paying customers ) and finally deal with the bots once and for all, not just ban 1 account every 4 months, but actually stop them for good ? Yeah yeah we know, bla bla, AION, bla bla. Nobody cares, just fix the **** bots issue in L2 ...

also, just a thought ... L2 is several years old now, it seems funny to talk about new processes and how we will see more activity from GM's - (yeah right ), seriously I really think no one believes the same old cwap. Just fix the **** issue, don't promise anything, don't tell anyone aobut your processes, I really could not care less, just fix the **** issue

as much as I'd love to believe in Moxie's and Lyzira's positive attitude, I don't think NCSoft as a company cares.... with their limited powers and influences (especially since they're new at their positions) what they can achieve is also limited

I really would like to see results instead of empty words that I've been hearing for the past 5 years.

24. How is Spam doing at the new place, and do the old mods still allow him to come play at lunch with them?
I’ve heard Spam is doing well in his new position and everyone still gets along swimmingly!


But there is no swimming in Aion... if you go into the water, you'll just drown :((((

But there is no swimming in Aion... if you go into the water, you'll just drown :((((

Brilliant !!

Patience, patience !
We've got to give the new peeps a chance to let their actions match their words.

Good luck to you and lets hope we see some positive results :)

See how many smiley faces are in this thread? See how much a little attention from staff goes a long way with community morale?

Seeing those changes you've spoken about take place, and the powers that be keeping the community informed on what's coming... I think that's all most of us have ever asked for.

Now, if we could just get a GM to actually show up in game every once in a while -- or even just to speak to people when they petition. Then I'll know there are some actual changes taking place and not just new excited employee's. ;)

See how many smiley faces are in this thread? See how much a little attention from staff goes a long way with community morale?

Seeing those changes you've spoken about take place, and the powers that be keeping the community informed on what's coming... I think that's all most of us have ever asked for.

Now, if we could just get a GM to actually show up in game every once in a while -- or even just to speak to people when they petition. Then I'll know there are some actual changes taking place and not just new excited employee's. ;)

Odd. I ran into GMAngel twice in the same day. GM's do exist!


(He gave bday buff to my Domi, who is now 77 :D)

Seems I should finish off the Shil templar and duelist, and all of my 76 row in sig will be 77...

Yes, XelliB, there really is a GM team.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c33/koster_jay/Lineage%202%20Screenshots/GMPommo.jpg

They have no choice but to log in, they totally screwed up the birthday mechanics and it's making people crit error en masse.

I want to see GMs log in "because they can/want to" not "because they have/are forced to."

That's what made them cool in other games, and the opposite here.

Anyways, it was a good read, and I'm glad to see her first MMO was EQ. I LOL'd where she said L2 had great depth, though.

Thx for the answers Moxie, i have a question for you.

Is there any plans to give people in closed / open beta there birthday buffs?

Unfortunately my ingame birthday was the 6th of April before the new vitality buff was introduced

They have no choice but to log in, they totally screwed up the birthday mechanics and it's making people crit error en masse.

I want to see GMs log in "because they can/want to" not "because they have/are forced to."

That's what made them cool in other games, and the opposite here.

Anyways, it was a good read, and I'm glad to see her first MMO was EQ. I LOL'd where she said L2 had great depth, though.

God..Moxie is a she? .... o.0

It was nice to see some answers and feel a little association with the new person. Thanks for taking the time.

With some exceptions, this playing community cares deeply about their game--and yes, I mean their game.
I think that is behind our angst, our humor, our hopes, our frustrations in posts.

It seems clear that L2 will contract over time--inevitable of course. But even more than most games, L2 isn't for the faint of heart, so (just my opinion) it tends to weed out the unsuited and uninterested.
Even when there are 3-4 servers left and 10k accounts in the future--those 10k players will care (and rant, and whine, and complain, and expect).

I wish you the best. I'm not personally a huge fan of your group, and the level of effort I've generally seen from the staff over the years would earn all of those folks a pink slip if they worked for me.
But I'm hopeful. I know well that sometimes a little new energy, a bit of new perspective can make a difference. I hope that's the case with your new team as well.

Good luck to you and bear with us--if we didn't care at all, we wouldn't bother to type a **** thing!
~D~

WOW what a great interview.

I just can't believe all the things you are "considering", "are going to do", "are looking into", and the old standby..."of course we are gonna do that".

One thought though...when your customer bases has repeatedly been lied to...why is it that they just don't believe anything that comes out of your mouth. Some things just aren't fair ..hu!

Situation normal...all talk...no action!

i suspect the line morpheus gave Neo works in this situation; "You can wake up and believe... whatever you want to believe"

the trouble with interviews is theyre always a form of Public Relations. and you may know just as we all know, PR people need to always make the blackest of evil companies look saintly. thats their job; in this case i suspect it to be no different. if Moxie had informed us there was 2 monkeys and a Crab working the desks of the GM and Translation team... well even if it was true it would still be bad PR. and we cant have that.

so we "polish" what people need to hear to keep confidence and loyalty from customers and investors.

its a sad truth, but every company that deals with Investor relations needs people to keep siphoning the money into the company.

29. What are your personal goals and things you would like to accomplish while being a part of this company?
I really just want to learn as much as I can about the process of making good games and delivering them to players who love to play.

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This is my first job in this industry and i sure as hell would love to learn as much as possible before i move on..

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This is my first job in this industry and i sure as hell would love to learn as much as possible before i move on..

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I can read question 29 and infer something that's not there, but I can't read question 27 to realize I'm being a forum troll and just making things up to stir the pot.

99% of the heroes are famous botters . gg

I was wondering somthing totally diffirent actually
about the bases of the game

Originally everything is developped in korea right ?
so the development team in america/europe only translates
the korean game , with mild adaptation, so far i think that's correct.

But i think the adaptation should be pushed even further
in korea they dont have to deal with time zones
and even if it wasnt for the time zones, some things should be made a more arround the clock, or stretched.

I think of al lthe people who do night work for a good example.
They can never do the olympiads, or they would have to do it during their vacations only, that's a bit , dishonoring, for poeple who do jobs that
otherwise no one else would do...

Same things for people who do weekend jobs, i really think that should be
brought much much more into consideration in times for Olympiads, sieges
and more of such time bound events, if u broaden it by lets say 3 hours more before, 3 hours more after, i think even 2 hours should do fine
then u got a large enough time front for everyone, even for all those
hardworking players who never get their chances otherwise...


And maybe secondly
just a footnote

for Olympiad:

Make it so that when u enter olympiad all u wear will be olympiad clothes
so that gear can no longer be a factor in winning
only u'r own talent of using the toon correctly and efficiently
True skill, not like now wherethe biggest adena buyers win with their
overenchanted S-grade gears

I think this would make olympiad truly interesting to see then...

i know this one is from awhile ago but the other is closed. i would like to know when NC NA will be updating its official forums information? alot of skills are wrong/missing from skill trees and everything is just so dated. im sure it wouldnt be so hard to have someone spend a day updating it every now and then =/

I don't want to bust your butt on this, but there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to get enough money to do decent advertising. I'm in my 4th year of business school and any marketing teacher i've had would argue that advertising is the most important part of any product success. You can have the best product, but if nobody knows about it then what good does it do? And before anyone says is, word of mouth is nice, but it isn't enough for a game might only survive 10 years at best.

I can understand having little funds to allocate to advertising such as TV commericals and magazine ads, however, a good CEO would find a way to make it happen. The only reason you don't have enough funds is because there is not enough emphasis on it. Make advertising important, you will find the money, and then sit back and relax as your revenue and player base increase.

L2 is a great game and I've played it since beta, i've even tried WoW breifly only to come back to l2 right away. Ncsoft has a great product here, but not promoting it should be a considered a crime, no excuses.

Lol, i dont see any Lineage2 Window on it...wierd...

they'll have plenty of money to advertise L2 once aion will make a full flop due to bot/speedhack/cheats they already have in korea :)

they'll have plenty of money to advertise L2 once aion will make a full flop due to bot/speedhack/cheats they already have in korea :)

They will probably release Aion 2 and will tell us how amazing it will be ...

22. Why isn't the site yet updated? What is the current workload/process to getting our website back up-to-date? The former team made a "to do" list with our wishes from the Site and Forum Issues section. Does it still exist? The Lineage II home page needs a lot of care.
The site isn’t updated for a variety of reasons that have been touched on here. I would list them again, but honestly, it’s something we know must get done as quickly as possible, and it is a priority. I’d rather just deliver an updated website as quickly as we can rather than list reasons that it is not currently updated.
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Id rather you have delivered an updated site as quickly as possible too, but that doesnt explain why it takes you months to add simple skills that could literally be done by one person in a fraction of a days work. People manage fan sites and update that information plus much more in a few hours of work. The reason you dont do it is because it isnt a major priority and to put it quite simply, you guys are lazy. This is such a BS copout of a reply it is unbelieveable. You should really hire some people that actually play L2 and enjoy the game. List a few reasons to prove me wrong, but I doubt youll be able to make up anything worth reading. Site updates should go hand in hand with chronicle updates. Its simply a matter of poor planning and apathetic management.

if you browse a few threads where the mighty wasters of space are posting ( see all kinds of GM and whatnot ), you will see they all promise updates quickly, they are aware some things have to be done and they are a priority .

Look again a few months ( years ) later and you'll see nothing has changed. It's how they work ... big words, big promises , no action at all.

so what happened to your mighty ... i'd rather deliver an updated site as quickly as possible Moxie ?
You post that in July, now, 1 month later still nothing happened.
To update some information on a site takes a few hours, so I can deduct that you are not only incredibly lazy, but are also a big liar.
How dare you come here and promise updates quickly and 1 month later they are still not done ? I can't believe your nerve, do you really take us for idiots ?
Either just shut the hell up, as in don't bloody post on the forums and promise things, if you can't deliver them anyway and if you still feel the desire to post then freaking do what you promise.

You're lucky you don't work for me , I would have kicked your sorry bum out, 2 days after making the promises.

Actually , thinking about it, no one can be this incompetent and this dumb.
I think we can safely take this as proof that there is no L2 team anymore, there isn't anyone dealing specifically with this game.

I can understand many things, the game not being updated, even bots up to a point, but a website ? The only thing you guys truly control is your own website and you don't even update it ?

It's obvious they've left this game to die on its own, no point in updating the site then is it ?
Even Lyzira, I bet this is like a part time job for her, I bet she's working on the other game to.

Too bad you guys don't have the balls to come out and admit it and instead you keep promising stuff.

I believe this Moxie guy said something about wanting to learn before moving on ? Perhaps start with honesty, I find that helps more than anything else.

You think 3 posts in a row ranting is gonna serve you for the better?
Honestly I can't understand why you still have your account active if you think this all is so bad!

What sort of a question is that ? If you're looking for dumbest of day post, then congrats to you, you just won it.

I can have my own opinion and I have the right to ask any question I **** please , I am paying to play this game. It is not your place to question why my account is still active, perhaps you should concentrate on asking the same type of questions if you care in the very least about L2. You don' see a problem here ? Even if I cancel my account how on earth would that change things for you, for the better I mean ? You'd still be left with the same issues, just one less active player.

Dont let the door hit your dwarven behind on the way out. Take care.

would benefit by 1 less anoying poster?

What sort of a question is that ? If you're looking for dumbest of day post, then congrats to you, you just won it.

I can have my own opinion and I have the right to ask any question I **** please , I am paying to play this game. It is not your place to question why my account is still active, perhaps you should concentrate on asking the same type of questions if you care in the very least about L2. You don' see a problem here ? Even if I cancel my account how on earth would that change things for you, for the better I mean ? You'd still be left with the same issues, just one less active player.

Oo oO Was just wondering...

I have not many issues with L2 and support.
Then again, I pay do play the game instead of ranting and whining in forums all day :)
Maybe you should try also... ?

GL brother dorf ^^

Now boys. Can't we all just get along.

We have been waiting for results for years and still none, why would anyone believe that there will be any results in future (on the 3rd party software issue)?

You are 'working on' new processes, 'looking into' new ways of detecting bots, 'considering ... etc.'. You've been doing this for years. Why don't you stop working on, looking into and considering and do what works - get real GMs to log in and use their eyes - it is simple and works and GM SPAM proved this before you sent him packing.

I for one don't believe anything that NC SOFT tells me anymore.

Actually , thinking about it, no one can be this incompetent and this dumb.
I think we can safely take this as proof that there is no L2 team anymore, there isn't anyone dealing specifically with this game.

I can understand many things, the game not being updated, even bots up to a point, but a website ? The only thing you guys truly control is your own website and you don't even update it ?

It's obvious they've left this game to die on its own, no point in updating the site then is it ?
Even Lyzira, I bet this is like a part time job for her, I bet she's working on the other game to.

Too bad you guys don't have the balls to come out and admit it and instead you keep promising stuff.

I believe this Moxie guy said something about wanting to learn before moving on ? Perhaps start with honesty, I find that helps more than anything else.

All I really have to say about that is updating websites is a pain in the neck. It's 50% of what I do for a living, so I know how the process usually goes. Generally companies dont just haphazzardly update content, it goes through the PR dept., the External Affairs Dept., Legal Dept., etc.... So a simple single page update has to go through several people, all of whom have different schedules and priorities alltogether different than those of the web team. Things work this way, because of little whiners who get their rocks off by calling out even the slightest percieved lie or broken promise on the part of the company.

My advice is to get off the web teams back and dont call them out personally. It's likely neither their responsibility nor within their authority to just come up with new content or updates for the website.

If you have questions, ask your questions and leave it at that, don't get into accusing and insulting the staff.

k now we all got to acuse and insult SarahLuz :)=.
I think ppl ask and demand to much when they pay for something cus they think their entitled, imo if u gona cry and complain so much quit game, go find one that updates its website ALL the time and be happy there. Since i start playing this game, end of C4 or something there have been enormous updates to the game itself making it a lot more fun to play in a lot of ways, wer r the coments on that? search the forums and tell me how many ppl post this and that was fun, wow this is cool. So u cant find things on their web site, so what, google it, find another website. Most of the ppl that actually take the time to answer all the ridiculous demands ppl make and take the time puting up with the insults that ppl throw at them, might not even have any idea wth ur talking about cus they just got hired. Is like when u call ur ISP and shout at the person answering the phone, like they can do anything.
Ppl that work for a company and do things that always go unnoticed will get discouraged to do anything at all, particularly with all the negativity every1 puts on their posts.
Less omgomgomg mommy give me this and that and more ty for making a good and fun game to play imo.

You're missing the whole point.

1) An updated, good looking site is essential in atracting new players.
2) dealing with the bots - again helps with new players
3) allowing everyone to play just one account at the same time ( once the game has enough players ) is also good for the "massive multiplayer" aspect

Yes I pay to play a game, I do enjoy it and it annoys me that it could be so much better just by doing a couple of things.

This game is dying, unfortunately, look at how many players are actually left. I can tell you right now Franz was a very alive server 2 years ago , now is almost dead.

What I can't understand is this , more real , unique players means a lot more money, money for publicity etc. Everything a company does can translate into more revenue for them.

But these people don't have any interest in this. The game is doing great in Korea ... who the f. cares about Korea here ?

Both N and S Korea put together have like what ? 60-70 million people ?
EU has a lot more, America has a lot more.

A decent game can bring in a lot of money, look how many people here are willing to pay for more than 1 account, as an example. The market is huge and it grows every day.

I am not sorry for calling them idiots because this is what all these people are. A bunch of idiots who can't see where their interest lies.

It's much easier to improve an existing game than create a new one.

Also , one last thing, when this game dies what's going to happen to all the time put in by each one of us ?
Down the drain.

I just wish at least one of these companies (mmrops producers) would realise where their interest is and for once, show some brains.

At some points you are right, this game has a lot of potentional and with a little bit more effort in advertisement it could be much more successfull in NA/EU. I mean when I go to a game specialized shop and they have no clue when you speak about Lineage II then yes something could be improved. Still it does not justify it for calling names at the employees who work for NC.

And yes this game will die too, as all other games. Enjoy the ride while it last.
Why keep on ranting and ing in the forums if you know allready it will not serve you?
As for many people in the forums if they only spent half the effort in game as they waste in the forums ranting they would actualy start enjoy playing the game.

btw isn't playing video games throwing time through the drains by default?

lol this is turning into a philosophical discussion.
I do not look at a game as a waste of time, I look at it as a way of spending my free time doing what I love.

Any thing we do is a waste of time ... that's life for you.
Other people enjoy reading a book, walking, hiking whatever.
I am into gaming. When I was talking about our time down the drain, I meant all the time spent playing L2.

As a final note, L2 is special compared to any other game. It does'n thave to die now, it could go on for years without any issues. But it won't do that with the current team.