Deranged Dwarven Crafters (Bartz)

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So, here on Bartz I have noticed quite a few dwarves putting weird stuff on their advertisements:


*KraftMacaroni: Advertises his shots as "Chessy shots" O.o

*Skarie: She says her shots are warm fresh out of the oven. (Shots are a pastry now? :/ )

*Lornament: Says her shots are Hero Grade Shots...

*Crafter4Life: "A Dragon inside every shot to attack your enemies"

And a handful of others I cant recall at the moment. So, what are the dwarves saying on your server? lol
So, here on Bartz I have noticed quite a few dwarves putting weird stuff on their advertisements:


*KraftMacaroni: Advertises his shots as "Chessy shots" O.o

*Skarie: She says her shots are warm fresh out of the oven. (Shots are a pastry now? :/ )

*Lornament: Says her shots are Hero Grade Shots...

*Crafter4Life: "A Dragon inside every shot to attack your enemies"

And a handful of others I cant recall at the moment. So, what are the dwarves saying on your server? lol


the competition on Bartz must be very heavy!
It just gets to my nerves when they start talking out of their arses
We had walmart isle: 1/2/3/4/etc. lol
We had a maestro in our clan who used fresh souls for a brighter, stronger pop. Even carried around a soul crystal and cookies to "trade" for souls.
Acutally, I appreciate that these are real players trying to get you to shop there. Same way as as marketing yourself as better even though it is exactly the same as the next guy.

We have a BBQ joint here locally that put out a big busted manakin and not only did he get more business, made news, but the city tried to get it shut down. LOL

What a great idea is was/is.
Acutally, I appreciate that these are real players trying to get you to shop there. Same way as as marketing yourself as better even though it is exactly the same as the next guy.

We have a BBQ joint here locally that put out a big busted manakin and not only did he get more business, made news, but the city tried to get it shut down. LOL

What a great idea is was/is.

This is L2 not real life lol. When people craft SS they dont give a **** what the shop says or what the dwarf is saying. Its a battle royal fighting off every other dwarf trying to craft SS. HE WHO CLICKS THE FASTEST SHALL GET ALL THE SS!
This is L2 not real life lol. When people craft SS they dont give a **** what the shop says or what the dwarf is saying. Its a battle royal fighting off every other dwarf trying to craft SS. HE WHO CLICKS THE FASTEST SHALL GET ALL THE SS!

Not true lol. I have a sense of humor and I do click on those with funny titles first.

When I first came back to the game and saw hero grade shots as the title of the sell shop, I actually fell for it and thought it was some special soul shot. It funny and creative!

I mean really, would you rather click on craftmacaroni or fghtjs? PS: Craftmacaroni is a cool dude. He gave me free extra crystals when I asked him to crystalize something.
Not true lol. I have a sense of humor and I do click on those with funny titles first.

When I first came back to the game and saw hero grade shots as the title of the sell shop, I actually fell for it and thought it was some special soul shot. It funny and creative!

I mean really, would you rather click on craftmacaroni or fghtjs? PS: Craftmacaroni is a cool dude. He gave me free extra crystals when I asked him to crystalize something.

Id click on whatever dwarf had MP. Like I said its an epic battle between me and 20 other people fighting over a few slithers of MP.
You people really buy shots? :confused: Are you in a clan? :confused:
the competition on Bartz must be very heavy!

That or the Roleplaying.
That or the Roleplaying.
AHAHAHAAA BDH for your sig. *passes BEER
You people really buy shots? :confused: Are you in a clan? :confused:

What you buy your shots, do you not have your own A grade crafter on your account?????


Silly boyo
What you buy your shots, do you not have your own A grade crafter on your account?????


Silly boyo
nooooo I can craft all shots up to SSS/SBSpS! My peeps don't go without. They toss stuff into the CWH and I can craft anything we need. I just find it wild that people in clans are forced into that adena sink or making thier own dwarf crafter.
Sounds like they never heard of Team Work!
Acutally, I appreciate that these are real players trying to get you to shop there. Same way as as marketing yourself as better even though it is exactly the same as the next guy.

We have a BBQ joint here locally that put out a big busted manakin and not only did he get more business, made news, but the city tried to get it shut down. LOL

What a great idea is was/is.
All it does is make me block them.

Thank God I finally found an SBSpS rec. Half those idiots charge too much anyways.
nooooo I can craft all shots up to SSS/SBSpS! My peeps don't go without. They toss stuff into the CWH and I can craft anything we need. I just find it wild that people in clans are forced into that adena sink or making thier own dwarf crafter.
Sounds like they never heard of Team Work!
Cause there are thousands of live WS/Maestros in L2NA.

Yes.

An overwhelming majority of them are alts.

Teamwork is having someone log on their alt WS to craft shots, cause the only live WS in clan has a job.
OMG LOL I am kraftmacaroni! My name is a play on kraft macaroni and cheese and of course crafting (you know kraft instead of craft) so I just put weird cheese related messages for my shot shop haha. It seems to work because I do sell a lot of shots!
Not true lol. I have a sense of humor and I do click on those with funny titles first.

When I first came back to the game and saw hero grade shots as the title of the sell shop, I actually fell for it and thought it was some special soul shot. It funny and creative!

I mean really, would you rather click on craftmacaroni or fghtjs? PS: Craftmacaroni is a cool dude. He gave me free extra crystals when I asked him to crystalize something.

Ah yes I remember you! You wanted that d grade thing crystalized, ty for the compliment :)
Cause there are thousands of live WS/Maestros in L2NA.

Yes.

An overwhelming majority of them are alts.

Teamwork is having someone log on their alt WS to craft shots, cause the only live WS in clan has a job.

We got WS too and yup handy to have around cuz I might be working or kayaking or any number of RL activities I might be off doing! Better stiil is I don't need to leave my alt to cook for another when there's a WS standing right there! :D But what it comes down to is in my clan we never buy shots
Not true lol. I have a sense of humor and I do click on those with funny titles first.

When I first came back to the game and saw hero grade shots as the title of the sell shop, I actually fell for it and thought it was some special soul shot. It funny and creative!

I mean really, would you rather click on craftmacaroni or fghtjs? PS: Craftmacaroni is a cool dude. He gave me free extra crystals when I asked him to crystalize something.

keep doing that. just means more mp for me to use.
I don't know what the shops I click on are called. I don't care so I don't notice it. I just know if they have the type of shot I need.

nooooo I can craft all shots up to SSS/SBSpS! My peeps don't go without. They toss stuff into the CWH and I can craft anything we need. I just find it wild that people in clans are forced into that adena sink or making thier own dwarf crafter.
Sounds like they never heard of Team Work!making shots within the clan and buying them full price on the market makes no difference in terms of adena sinking. the only adena sink component of shots is the soul and spirit ore, everything else comes from drops and thus doesn't remove money from the game.
I'm glad there are some people that like some personality and fun with their... entertainment! :)

Then again, just like real marketing, some people will like your style, others will get turned away.

Personally, little Dwarfies are so cute I think it's weird when they don't have cute names, messages on their stores!
keep doing that. just means more mp for me to use.
I don't know what the shops I click on are called. I don't care so I don't notice it. I just know if they have the type of shot I need.

making shots within the clan and buying them full price on the market makes no difference in terms of adena sinking. the only adena sink component of shots is the soul and spirit ore, everything else comes from drops and thus doesn't remove money from the game.

*Yeah, but if done properly cost of shots is minimal and less of a burden on the company as a whole and that is where marketing and taxes comes into the mix and there already is a topic about that in another thread.
I try very hard to be a good clan leader who saves as much adena for my Adventuring Company that I can, so yeah I will run from town to town checking prices and buy when I find low. I know how most people are if they need it run into the store and buy it! I'm happy to know that the adena that the Elite Adventuring Company picks up stays in their inventory and not wasted on crafting over priced shots due to high taxes!

:D Back to topic I would much rather see someone set up with cool marketing tag like Craftmacaroni's or hear a marketer call out his wear' in a clever fashion, because it's GIRAN! It's Market Town! BUY/SELL/TRADE and BE HAPPY!
*passes BEER :D
You people really buy shots? :confused: Are you in a clan? :confused:

Isa, you'll be surprised, I buy shots myself. I'm too lazy to craft them... and, well, my exping coveres the expenses anyway, so... :)
if my clanners ever asked me to make em shots i'd tell em to go F themselves
90% of my clan is better equipped due to the usual "equip the dorfs after everyone else is equipped and we have sold as much gear as possible" rule
if you really fail that much at the game that you can't make your own dorf alt or afford the measly mark up most dorfs charge to make shots then just go to giran and click off w/e dorf alt you find there
if my clanners ever asked me to make em shots i'd tell em to go F themselves
90% of my clan is better equipped due to the usual "equip the dorfs after everyone else is equipped and we have sold as much gear as possible" rule
if you really fail that much at the game that you can't make your own dorf alt or afford the measly mark up most dorfs charge to make shots then just go to giran and click off w/e dorf alt you find there

That sounds a bit bitter lol, but I feel you...

I leveled with a dwarf friend for the longest time, we both made money, I helped him level, and got spoils in return.

Nothing like spoiling EWA's :).

People in this game are far too **** about things, they need to take a chill pill.
That sounds a bit bitter lol, but I feel you...

I leveled with a dwarf friend for the longest time, we both made money, I helped him level, and got spoils in return.

Nothing like spoiling EWA's :).

People in this game are far too **** about things, they need to take a chill pill.

or *Passes BEER
Yup and ain't she just sweet! I love our grumpy's everyone plays a different game and that's what makes the forums fun! ;)
That sounds a bit bitter lol, but I feel you...

I leveled with a dwarf friend for the longest time, we both made money, I helped him level, and got spoils in return.

Nothing like spoiling EWA's :).

People in this game are far too **** about things, they need to take a chill pill.

Yeah because WS spoils now. :confused:
All it does is make me block them.

Thank God I finally found an SBSpS rec. Half those idiots charge too much anyways.

I charge 20 adena for ssd and never lower my price. Other dwarves get into a price wars and I've seen ssd for as little as little as 11 adena on Luna. People may buy their ss first but mine always sell when theirs runs out and I make more in the long run. I don't bot and I'm only level 30 so I can only craft 4 sets of shot then its the waiting game for a full bar of mana before I can craft again.
*Yeah, but if done properly cost of shots is minimal and less of a burden on the company as a whole and that is where marketing and taxes comes into the mix and there already is a topic about that in another thread.
I try very hard to be a good clan leader who saves as much adena for my Adventuring Company that I can, so yeah I will run from town to town checking prices and buy when I find low. I know how most people are if they need it run into the store and buy it! I'm happy to know that the adena that the Elite Adventuring Company picks up stays in their inventory and not wasted on crafting over priced shots due to high taxes!

:D Back to topic I would much rather see someone set up with cool marketing tag like Craftmacaroni's or hear a marketer call out his wear' in a clever fashion, because it's GIRAN! It's Market Town! BUY/SELL/TRADE and BE HAPPY!
*passes BEER :D

I'm on bartz.

If I set up a buyshop for the crystals and buy soul/spirit ore at lowest possible price at the time and craft all the shots on my dwarf alt I get the lowest possible cost per shot

If I then go and do the same thing on my main and buy the crystals from sellshops, port to the cheapest ore and buy it, and then craft from craftshops in giran I can make any type of shot at around 5% more money per shot including port costs. It is extremely rare that I can't find any of the crystals I need for a good price.

If I am lazy and I go buy shots from a normal shop I will be paying another 20% for them on top of the 5%


Instead of helping your lazy clanmembers out by giving them cheap shots you should educate them and then sell the shots to the market instead. I guarantee you you'll make more money doing that than you are currently saving all your members combined.
Whether or not you then keep that money on yourself or use it for your clan is up to you.


I charge 20 adena for ssd and never lower my price. Other dwarves get into a price wars and I've seen ssd for as little as little as 11 adena on Luna. People may buy their ss first but mine always sell when theirs runs out and I make more in the long run. I don't bot and I'm only level 30 so I can only craft 4 sets of shot then its the waiting game for a full bar of mana before I can craft again.

I'm not into SSD, but I could keep you out of business permanently if you sell at 20. And even if I couldn't, the time it takes me to re-craft and set up shop again means I make more money in both the short and the long run, because I spend and earn my money much quicker, even at lower profit ratios, undercutting down to ~10% profit margin is always worth it.

There isn't much reason to play the SSD market though, if you plan on making money on shots you are much better off going to giran and crafting A-SS(stupid censoring >_>) and SSS by buying crystals and using craft shops, money will roll in 10 times quicker than with your current operation.
It does require a few mil to start though, as soon as you hit ~10mil adena you should move on to that
Also has the added benefit that you can craft much quicker because you'll have 5-10 shops available to craft from and 50 times the mp regen you have on a lv 30 dorf
profit starts with "S" grade gear\shots\weps nowadays....really....
profit starts with "S" grade gear\shots\weps nowadays....really....

I used to craft both A-SS and SSS, and I completely stopped crafting SSS because sold 5 times faster, there's more money in that market, at least on bartz

edited: A S S is censored >_>
I used to craft both and SSS, and I completely stopped crafting SSS because sold 5 times faster, there's more money in that market, at least on bartz

so, you buy crystals "S"...and craft shots using market dorfs, right?
so, you buy crystals "S"...and craft shots using market dorfs, right?

boards censors A S S, means to say A-SS and SSS - board deleted the A-SS, didn't even leave a [censored] tag >_>
but yes, I can craft from craft shops too, although I normally use my own WS and a recharger
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