I'm still deciding on what warrior class to sub for my hawkeye. I've narrowed it down to a Tyrant or a Destroyer. I know one is quicker with fists and the other uses a 2 handed sword. Other than that I am very dubious on the subject. Would you guys be kind enough to please list out what you believe the strengths and weaknesses of each class is.
Destroyer: Once in a while they can frenzy when at 30% hp, giving them really high patk. It can also pole. Generally a slow running powerhouse.
Tyrant: Gets totems that boost stats. Ogre is one powerful totem, allowing you to tank really good even though you are wearing light armor. Has really high hp in endgame, and can be used to tank raids, due to the high dps and survivability.
My tip for OP: If you are only getting the sub to 75 for sub skill, go destroyer, you will reach it faster by aoeing. If you wanna have some fun along the way and get a really good pvp char out of it, go tyrant.
I wouldn't *count* on getting anywhere very fast by poling these days, especially if rolling a sub or new character. IMO, both are good, but Tyrant gets the nod, and not by a whisker.
aoe isnt a very big problem w/ proper support, sure you cant do 100 mob pulls w/ just a BD and buffer anymore... you can still get things done 40 - 75 quicker than single target killing...
Tyrant can prety much do anything a destroyer can but faster in relation to a subclass, that includes aoe as well.
Destroyer can rage for patk and gets very nice under 30% hp skills, tyrants totems are there all the time and as the class is now are a lot beter than destroyer, imo ofc. Ive played both classes during xp and raids, i would chose tyrant. If u pvp at lower lvls and u actually wanna run away if u dont get one shoted by higher lvls, dont go destroyer, runing speed difference is inmense.
i think it depends on play style, tyrant is probably faster in hitting mobs 1by1 (cause destr. runspeed sucks bad), but for aoe use destroyer. but in the end it just depends on your own playstyle and on what u willing to invest to gear up.
Fortune seeker is a warrior class.. why not consider that!!! money +++ im sure you're a big fan of money!!! and btw Fortune bugs love fortune seekers.. so think about it! but i will always be cuter than you! :p
As long as u are a hawkeye i guess u are not really used to aoe.I think a tyrant will be easier and much faster to exp.Plated leather armor +4 str +4 dex -9 con and some nice fists and u will be 75 really fast.Tbh though destro is really interesting char too but much more harder to xp properly especially if u have no supports and aoe experience.:)
As a bishop, I'm in a lot of parties. From my experience, I level faster with a tyrant. Now that you get newbie buffs until 75, destroyers are still viable, but frankly aoe'ing is best for classes like warlords. You can take like 3 minutes to kill a room with a pole as a destroyer, or like 2.75 minutes to kill a room with a tyrant. S grade is a different story. But frankly, I would pick tyrant because you are better in PvP, level around the same if not faster, and will have fun!
My advice is to play a Tyrant. I have a level 61 Tyrant right now and to put it simply he's a machine. Grab yourself an improved buffalo for heals and you've more or less got an unstoppable killing machine. At level 61 with a level 62 improved buffalo and a +4 str -5 dex tat with a plus 3 set of dc armor and a +3 blood tornado with focus and ogre totem my tyrant has 1074 p. atk 927 p. def *the augment on my bt gave additional p. def twice :mad:* 100 accuracy and a 102 crit rate. My tyrant also has well over 5000 hp and lives in the 8 mob spawn room in witch right now. I was able to take the room pre a grade but now that I have my a grade set my tyrant is able to kill the entire room and beat the respawn so he's even better than a pole toon for now. Its my desire to eventually aquire a few more blood tornados and attempt to overenchant and see if I can get his damage maybe up to 305 and sobekk's hurricane range.
i need to make one of them for my clan needs (i already have the destro in other server)
so i am thinking to try tyrant but they told me he costs too much...
is it true? many people say that u have fun with tyrant and many people support destroyers
i was thinking that since u walk faster and attack faster with tyrant and also u have totems it might be cool
on the other hand i was told that destroyer is a money maker while tyrants not...also heared that destro can own with common stuff while tyrant needs focus weapons and so on...
I'm still deciding on what warrior class to sub for my hawkeye. I've narrowed it down to a Tyrant or a Destroyer. I know one is quicker with fists and the other uses a 2 handed sword. Other than that I am very dubious on the subject. Would you guys be kind enough to please list out what you believe the strengths and weaknesses of each class is.
thanks
Tyrant can rotate between different self-buffs every few minutes, they use light armor, have range gladiator-type 'nukes', and can run/hit FAST. They use fist weapons. Keyword is speed and light armor, though. If you like speed, great. If you want something that can take a decent hit though, keep in mind that it might not be the case with light armor. Depends on your playstyle and where you like to hunt.
Destroyer is slow. Slow hitting, slow runners. That's most people's biggest complaint with them. No range until MAYBE the super high levels (toting a bow with archer's will), and that's really only for the oly. BUT, they can hit like a mack truck if you can balance yourself to a style that suits you (gear bonuses, tattoos, weapon SA's, etc.) and if you practice working your skills in a way that compliments your playstyle. They can take practice. Their biggest self-buff skills have to be cast...they're not like final frenzy on a gladi/warlord, so you need to take that into account when hunting. But if you can get into a groove and figure out what gear you want to use and how you want to use your skills, you can do amazing things.
For example...my father, who used to play the game for years until he passed away in November ('Keta' on Aria/Lionna), could pole-arm ANYWHERE on his destroyer. He was famouse for it. He would pull the entire varka area back before the mob drop-off was seriously implemented, he would pull multiple rooms in DVC, catacombs, high up in MoS, and the last place he pulled in was a room not far from Ember in Forge. He was able to handle SEVERAL mobs on him at once, so much so that he often scared most healers he'd bring with him (if any). He had his class down to a fine art though, and since it was his main he was able to implement sub-transfer skills like the haste trigger.
PS--a destro can use more than just a 2h sword. Another one that's a decent idea is of course a pole-arm, but also a 2h blunt. You can stun that way. :)
i need to make one of them for my clan needs (i already have the destro in other server)
so i am thinking to try tyrant but they told me he costs too much...
is it true? many people say that u have fun with tyrant and many people support destroyers
i was thinking that since u walk faster and attack faster with tyrant and also u have totems it might be cool
on the other hand i was told that destroyer is a money maker while tyrants not...also heared that destro can own with common stuff while tyrant needs focus weapons and so on...
I've actually felt the opposite for common gear for the destro and tyrant. As for all of these questions of yours though, it's all personal playstyle! There are people that play one or the other and are really HORRIBLE at it, and then there are others who can play and kick tail. I didn't take the time to learn how to play my destro when I first started the game, and so I had a hard time hunting in a lot of places. But as I mentioned in my previous reply, my father (who was actually a titan) was able to do things that made most people's jaw drop.
Do you want to be fast and hit fast, or do you want to be like a slow-moving freight train? Blow-for-blow, a destro can hit DANG hard. Tyrants hit 'hard' just because over time they hit faster and so it appears they damage for more. But again it all depends on your playstyle and where you hunt .Everyone is different.
Versatile playstyle
Same armor as HE (don't play Destro in light, adds nothing decent)
Only one wep needed (If you think Destro: pole, pve 2h sword focus, pvp 2h blunt for use of stun skills)
Can get away with common until S grade (or A grade if you spring for BT/Foc but Fist Frenzy and Totems are your power)
Destro is good if you master the frenzy mechanic. Tyrant is quite fun with all the totems and skills. But starts a bit slower because you don't have all the totems until 74 at Hawk.
Also you can get away with using a elemented S grade wep at 40. You get -16? accuracy and atk spd hit, but Agile Movement, Puma is stk spd and accuracy, and fists are most accurate wep. Only recommended with element. Last years +16 sg weps from Santa worked good too. My Tyrant was born 12/27 and I used S grade since lv 1. Stopped him at 78 though. Playing a Kamael now.
i need to make one of them for my clan needs (i already have the destro in other server)
so i am thinking to try tyrant but they told me he costs too much...
is it true? many people say that u have fun with tyrant and many people support destroyers
i was thinking that since u walk faster and attack faster with tyrant and also u have totems it might be cool
on the other hand i was told that destroyer is a money maker while tyrants not...also heared that destro can own with common stuff while tyrant needs focus weapons and so on...
I can't say enough about my Tyrant it is my one true love on this game. I never used common gear on my Tyrant but the experts have told me that I was over geared the entire time. I was informed that most tyrants use a set of Theca all the way till A grade and the fisted blades with the SA haste on it. My tyrant at A grade is a demi-god. I was informed repeatedly that soloing catas would eventually fade away but at level 61 I'm still at it and laughing my head off. With my level 62 buffalo I can take an entire room in CoW with my DC light and blood tornados and beat the 8 mob respawn. My only problem is going to be that the next 8 room spawn has stunners in it. I'm not sure if a set of light majestic would allow me to deal with the stun potential.
I'm not saying that the destroyer isn't great because I've never played one and I would really like to give it a try but the Tyrant is flat out a beast. Grab yourself an improved buffalo and let the bodies hit the floor.