Its pitty people whining like this. NCsoft is making already hotfixes for it. Give them some time. In the end they always come with reasonable solution.
If you dont like this event, go make your homework or something and let NCsoft do their thing.
Its pitty people whining like this. NCsoft is making already hotfixes for it. Give them some time. In the end they always come with reasonable solution.
If you dont like this event, go make your homework or something and let NCsoft do their thing.
Have patience padawan...
Hotfixes that go from error A to error B which is worse than error A?
Holy hell, this is worse than Microsoft and Windows updates!
Its pitty people whining like this. NCsoft is making already hotfixes for it. Give them some time. In the end they always come with reasonable solution.
If you dont like this event, go make your homework or something and let NCsoft do their thing.
Have patience padawan...
whinning?
i'm sorry, but a MULTI million dollar company that claims to be the number 1 MMORPG developer in the world, being unable to properly test a simple thing like an event screams for a fair bit of sour lashback.
WE the customers are NOT saposed to be the testers. There is NO excuse for what is occuring here, specially after a hotfix the hasn't resolved anything.
This is happening in MASS as well, this isn't isolated cases either, usually such a widespread problem would require the developer to retract and restore to a previous known working state and resolve the problem before reissueing.
I was fine before they patched the l2.bin file, now I can't even run L2 due to a l2.exe error. I think this is regression not progression in the manner of solving the problem, for me at least.
i'm sorry, but a MULTI million dollar company that claims to be the number 1 MMORPG developer in the world, being unable to properly test a simple thing like an event screams for a fair bit of sour lashback.
WE the customers are NOT saposed to be the testers. There is NO excuse for what is occuring here, specially after a hotfix the hasn't resolved anything.
This is happening in MASS as well, this isn't isolated cases either, usually such a widespread problem would require the developer to retract and restore to a previous known working state and resolve the problem before reissueing.
+1 on that,i just cant believe they still havent fix it, or at least remove it from the servers....
I re-instated my 3 accounts specifically for this event...
The 10% XP bonus I received while grinding was decent but I did burn through my VP a lot faster. In the hour or so I played I only got 1 Fire Seed (which gave me a QHP lol).
Soon as I went to town (Goddard) someone from Nova was popping seeds and I was immediately DC'd.
Not exactly what I was looking for in the event. Can we turn this into a Bonus XP sport for DC'ing and Crit'ing out the Boaters??? Say for every 5 boaters you get 1% additional XP bonus.
I re-instated my 3 accounts specifically for this event...
The 10% XP bonus I received while grinding was decent but I did burn through my VP a lot faster. In the hour or so I played I only got 1 Fire Seed (which gave me a QHP lol).
Soon as I went to town (Goddard) someone from Nova was popping seeds and I was immediately DC'd.
Not exactly what I was looking for in the event. Can we turn this into a Bonus XP sport for DC'ing and Crit'ing out the Boaters??? Say for every 5 boaters you get 1% additional XP bonus.
why did u re-activate your accounts for a possible extra 30% xp bonus? you do realize that is getting an extra 3 hours of xp after xping for 10 hours right? its not that great. vit 4 gives +300% to your xp, so xping for 10 hours is really like xping for 30 hours.
i dont see why people were making a huge deal about 10-30%, its nothing and an insult to players who honestly play the game...
why did u re-activate your accounts for a possible extra 30% xp bonus? you do realize that is getting an extra 3 hours of xp after xping for 10 hours right? its not that great. vit 4 gives +300% to your xp, so xping for 10 hours is really like xping for 30 hours.
i dont see why people were making a huge deal about 10-30%, its nothing and an insult to players who honestly play the game...
You are so right about that. The blessing is a joke by itself.
The reward doesnt reflect the player base who play this game at all.
Puff GHP? hahahahahaha. The first time I got that I laugh so hard, the second i was >(, from there I knew what to expect from this event, kind up slow, other people didnt expect too much from the beginning.
Any smart player would just log off their mains, create a newbie and farm with the newbie the seeds, because you dont want to die vs a mob while playing your main due lag, also you want to stay away from populated areas such Giran.
Then we have the no-tradable issue which was done to fight boaters, but as consecuence make everybody and their mommas misserable, I used to think was a good idea, now I think the no-tradable items is just plain stupid.
I won't shoot down NCSofts attempts on this one. The execution could have been better, but heck...at least they're trying to give us some of the things we asked for now. We asked for non-recycled events and now we've got one. We begged for a vitality event, and they made one up. We hated bot friendly events where they only profit. Well no one's profitting from this one. It sucks right now, but it will either get better, or it won't be repeated. Either way, it seems like they want to get on the right page with us. It's late in the game, but the game's not over yet. I'm starting to finally have some hope for this community.
I re-instated my 3 accounts specifically for this event...
The 10% XP bonus I received while grinding was decent but I did burn through my VP a lot faster. In the hour or so I played I only got 1 Fire Seed (which gave me a QHP lol).
When did you get a 10% xp bonus? o.O
As far as I know, no server managed to get one of the daily rewards so far.
I won't blame them for the problem. Please keep in mind that not all of the bugs can be found during QA process (I am being from QA, Support and Software development background). There is no way for any companies to test a product and get it 100% bug free in any QA environment (black box/white box). Not to mention they have to forward the data back to Korea for the Development to review. So it will take sometimes to find out the cause.
So far me and my friends, who played from different States, have not crashed or encountered the C++ error at all. That's being in town seeing others killing the summons while in shop mode all day. I have only experience two brief lags last night. Maybe we are lucky?
Lastly I seconded WamWamWuzzle. The event give us vitality pots, and is not bot friendly. That's what everyone had been asking for!
My biggest complaint is the disconnects on Devianne yesterday I have to say literally in giran we had 25 Sell/Buy shops in town because no one could stay connected do to people using the seeds. That is 100% honesty and it was a pain trying to buy anything I crafted some S weapons yesterday and had a heck of a time getting some matz or even blades I was missing.
They could have just given us 2 weeks of constant vit 2 and everyone would have been happy. No need to conjure up a story for the event and come up with contrived aspects of it which fail to exectute as planned. The simpliest solution is more often the most elegant.
I won't blame them for the problem. Please keep in mind that not all of the bugs can be found during QA process (I am being from QA, Support and Software development background). There is no way for any companies to test a product and get it 100% bug free in any QA environment (black box/white box). Not to mention they have to forward the data back to Korea for the Development to review. So it will take sometimes to find out the cause.
There is a difference between developing end-user software (Microsoft Word) and developing an MMORPG game.
They have a PTS Server. Keep it up, let people play on it (with increased rates), and release this crap there instead of here.
SOE does this with EverQuest (Test Server). Even Expansions get released there early so that they can find and fix bugs. The PTS will be less stable than the main server (and have unexpected downtimes), but at least the number of bugs that affect the Live Servers will be significantly cut down.
The fact that they don't have the brain to release something like this on a PTS server and try trivial things like spawning an NPC in town is ludicrous. I'm tired patching my computers. I'm tired of having to wait days to play the game due to lag. I have never played an MMORPG game that had this many issues on pretty much every event.
There is a big difference between unexpected issues popping up, and having the game become unplayable for a majority of the playerbase due to lag/disconnects/crit errors/exceptions every update... There is a pattern, and you can't just ignore it.
No one is asking for a 100% bug free game. That's impossible given the number of computer configurations (hardware, software, etc.) the game is currently running on. People are asking for them to act responsibly. If the event is causing these many issues, the event should have been pulled. SOE has done this more than a few times. Why can't NCSoft get a clue and do what's best for their customers? Cause a few carebears want an extra 10% XP, and some useless Runes?
So far me and my friends, who played from different States, have not crashed or encountered the C++ error at all. That's being in town seeing others killing the summons while in shop mode all day. I have only experience two brief lags last night. Maybe we are lucky?
Lucky or Lying. You take your pick.
Lastly I seconded WamWamWuzzle. The event give us vitality pots, and is not bot friendly. That's what everyone had been asking for!
I Agree. It's time for them to cut back on the droppable/tradeable item rewards, anyways.
It is odd though, that it only affects some people and not others. I wonder what the people affected share in common? Type of video card? CPU architecture? OS version? Who knows.
I'm not affected ... been in town and seeing people popping seeds all day, no issues at all. The only D/Cs I've had has been when they have (repeatedly) brought down the servers for the hotfixes. FWIW I run XP SP3 (x86) have an Nvidia 8800GT and a Core 2 Duo CPU.
But the percentage of people it affects seems quite high. Over half, I'd say, going by the number of Giran shops being constantly kicked off. So it seems pretty unlikely NC wouldn't have picked this up in testing, assuming they test on a couple of different machines (AMD vs Intel CPUs, ATI vs Nvidia GPUs with various versions of the driver, etc.)
Lucky maybe? I still haven't crash yet. However, I see more shops in Giran this evening so maybe it is good news?
I do agree with you that they need to put it on PTS for couple more days and ask players to log in and help them test. Right now a few days on PTS probably is not enough.
There is a difference between developing end-user software (Microsoft Word) and developing an MMORPG game.
They have a PTS Server. Keep it up, let people play on it (with increased rates), and release this crap there instead of here.
SOE does this with EverQuest (Test Server). Even Expansions get released there early so that they can find and fix bugs. The PTS will be less stable than the main server (and have unexpected downtimes), but at least the number of bugs that affect the Live Servers will be significantly cut down.
The fact that they don't have the brain to release something like this on a PTS server and try trivial things like spawning an NPC in town is ludicrous. I'm tired patching my computers. I'm tired of having to wait days to play the game due to lag. I have never played an MMORPG game that had this many issues on pretty much every event.
There is a big difference between unexpected issues popping up, and having the game become unplayable for a majority of the playerbase due to lag/disconnects/crit errors/exceptions every update... There is a pattern, and you can't just ignore it.
No one is asking for a 100% bug free game. That's impossible given the number of computer configurations (hardware, software, etc.) the game is currently running on. People are asking for them to act responsibly. If the event is causing these many issues, the event should have been pulled. SOE has done this more than a few times. Why can't NCSoft get a clue and do what's best for their customers? Cause a few carebears want an extra 10% XP, and some useless Runes?
Exactly
All these things that happen lately, laggs/crashes/"hotfixes", makes me wonder how they set up their ITIL policies or better yet if they even have ITIL policies...
I'm not affected ... been in town and seeing people popping seeds all day, no issues at all. The only D/Cs I've had has been when they have (repeatedly) brought down the servers for the hotfixes. FWIW I run XP SP3 (x86) have an Nvidia 8800GT and a Core 2 Duo CPU.
Funny, I also run XP sp3 x86, core2 duo and a 8800 (GTX). And I crashed often before that fix they put onto the servers last night, now I do not crash anymore.