During olimpiad today, I got 7k dmg. from an orc (he was using bow) and 10k dmg. from SPS... Gosh... is there a way to beat at least smb. with a dwarf? o.0
This is rediculous the things i'm hearing on here . I fought a s80 tyrant in olympiad the other night and when i was done i had 95% full cp and full hp and i won. I'm not sure on your guys setup but mages are easy to beat as long as there not epic'd put and probably full s80/armor /weapon . Its about tactics i'm gonna tell you dwarfs if you want ot win in olympiad you need ot ++++ your skills crazy like every one +10 and above keep up the fight my dwarf friends :)
This is rediculous the things i'm hearing on here . I fought a s80 tyrant in olympiad the other night and when i was done i had 95% full cp and full hp and i won. I'm not sure on your guys setup but mages are easy to beat as long as there not epic'd put and probably full s80/armor /weapon . Its about tactics i'm gonna tell you dwarfs if you want ot win in olympiad you need ot ++++ your skills crazy like every one +10 and above keep up the fight my dwarf friends :)
man, this is so not true.... My stuns are +++ crazy, YET, out of 5 tries not a single stun lands on orcs or even freaking dark elf tanks!
As for the nuker stuation, I couldn't even get close to him, you know. He has S80 weap/set 300 elements stick... Vortex gave me 9k dmg, and then smth. else gave me 27k....
This is rediculous the things i'm hearing on here . I fought a s80 tyrant in olympiad the other night and when i was done i had 95% full cp and full hp and i won. I'm not sure on your guys setup but mages are easy to beat as long as there not epic'd put and probably full s80/armor /weapon . Its about tactics i'm gonna tell you dwarfs if you want ot win in olympiad you need ot ++++ your skills crazy like every one +10 and above keep up the fight my dwarf friends :)
if you are suggesting +10 stuns then trust me mine are more than adequate and i also walk into oly with 4 stun jewels but there are certain classes that are basically impossible to stun or a guaranteed loss if you fail the first stun (if they know how to play)
if you are suggesting +10 stuns then trust me mine are more than adequate and i also walk into oly with 4 stun jewels but there are certain classes that are basically impossible to stun or a guaranteed loss if you fail the first stun (if they know how to play)
a bot can't be 85/80/80/80 with skills +15 and know game mechanics...
there's one more issue I've encountered! I can't see my HP bar (or my rival's). When I observe the Oly, I Do see those bars, when I participate, I can't!... IDN how to make them visible...
Selfpownd
Dude, you sound like you never played L2 before, except the fact that you have lvl XX, +XX skills and who knows what more. Nanashi nailed it.
impressive 5k life with 80+ how about an BTB5 stick maybe ? only an idea and before u ask u can trigger it with bondage aehhhh bandage ;) btw shoudnt there be health on ur bbh ?
iam not so into oly but why u take zerk 2 as a meatshield monster ?
impressive 5k life with 80+ how about an BTB5 stick maybe ? only an idea and before u ask u can trigger it with bondage aehhhh bandage ;) btw shoudnt there be health on ur bbh ?
iam not so into oly but why u take zerk 2 as a meatshield monster ?
is that really tallum on u ? *facepalm*
Be nice Shar ;)
eventho you're right.
Bel, problem is that you're set up for PvE, that won't give you much chance in Oly.
Things to take in mind for a better chance:
+CON
+SA Health weapon (can even be lower grade weapon, just for using to run up to nukers and such)
+Element defense (try n get S grade armor)
-Zerk2, don't buff zerk unless your class can really use it (you're helping the opposing nuker by lowering your mdef)
you can't trigger BTB (or any buff stick) with bandage last i checked but if they have ninja patched it since last i checked it doesn't really matter since you won't regen much of your HP from switching between a health weapon and a SOES
zerk and/or tallum can be handy in oly versus nukers or daggers where they are just gonna kill you in a few hits either way so you might as well try and close range quickly and squeeze off a stun that little bit quicker or versus low damage classes like other dorfs who will try and kill your golem first
you can't trigger BTB (or any buff stick) with bandage last i checked but if they have ninja patched it since last i checked it doesn't really matter since you won't regen much of your HP from switching between a health weapon and a SOES
zerk and/or tallum can be handy in oly versus nukers or daggers where they are just gonna kill you in a few hits either way so you might as well try and close range quickly and squeeze off a stun that little bit quicker or versus low damage classes like other dorfs who will try and kill your golem first
weird it worked on my bh k thats some years ago .....
Bel, problem is that you're set up for PvE, that won't give you much chance in Oly.
Things to take in mind for a better chance:
+CON
+SA Health weapon (can even be lower grade weapon, just for using to run up to nukers and such)
+Element defense (try n get S grade armor)
-Zerk2, don't buff zerk unless your class can really use it (you're helping the opposing nuker by lowering your mdef)
yeah, I know. But it won't help at all. Yeah, I could get this BTB 5 with me, but what's the deal out of it? If ppl hit me for 5-9k dmg. anyway? No use.
I'm saving for S80 set atm. This will give me a nice boost + attribute defence...
Again, guys, why I can not see the opponents HP bar? I already did this initialise screen button.
OMG.. you made me laugh so hard that I'll give you a +1 for this and I am going to let you know how to "fix" this issue about the opponent bar in oly.
Your opponent HP bar is in the same location of yours, BUT your HP bar is on top of it covering it so you cannot see it. Move down you HP bar and you are going to find your opponents HP bar under yours....
Why didnt bel self buff himself? lol WS buffs are really great yet he doesn't even use them >.>
completely forgot to do so during that mach! my bad!!
You know after being flushed like 8 times in a row by bishops, prophets and all that kinds of useless chars, I figured out that there was no point in buffing those buffs at all :D lol
another tip... the gate opens at 10 seconds before start of match. Be at the gate and running at your opponent as soon as it opens if you want a chance to get close to a nuker.
you won't make it to the other side before the match starts and they get off vortex/buster period
If you're geared/levelled well enough for general olympiad, you should be able to take about 4 or 5 nukes (including vortex/buster) from a Storm Screamer before you're dead (more against the other two nuker classes). This pretty much allows you to get to the nuker by the time his/her first nuke goes off, or very shortly after, which allows you to pounce. After that, the goal is to keep the nuker stunned so that you don't get nuked 3 or 4 times.
Of course, if you're fighting a nuker with a 300 weapon, then gg. But, then almost everyone else would lose against that nuker anyway.
I can't actually understand why Nanasha told us that we wouldn't be able to reach a nuker in 10 secs? I mean we have MORE than enough time to do this, right? 10 secs to cross the line? With WW and skills for running speed? why not?
Well im bored sitting here in town next to bel ... that top hat is a dead give away hehee, reading the threads here and thought i would add my two cents in :P. If your wanting to play oly's and want to be hero its gonna be hard to take on our server. We are a 2 sided server, unless your in one of those clans, just get your 9 games in for your tokens and call it a day. I'll share some things i do but im not gonna give away all me secrets ;p, being a dorf you dont need the btb staff, dont do it you have enough HP. Do get a mental shield dagger instead, for your armor atleast get a IC set with elements if you cant get a Dyn set, i would recommend Dyn though with atleast lvl 1 pads, for your weapon no 2 handers .. bad! ...hehee unless your using a uber pole with +out skillz a 1h blunt and shield ftw. (element, augment, heath ofc) if you want ot win in olympiad you need ot ++++ your skills crazy like every one +10 and above keep up the fight my dwarf friends :)This is true, i too fight tanks and orc, tanks forget it i come close but still loose in the end, the same for orc, titans with frenzy, zelot ... sad times, orc mages, DC possible to win but Doms GG :/. another tip... the gate opens at 10 seconds before start of match. Be at the gate and running at your opponent as soon as it opens if you want a chance to get close to a nuker.This is also true, 10 sec is plenty of time if you finish buffing/self buffing yourself/golem and if your fighting another Maestro, kill his golem 1st before atking him. Its a lot easier to win hero in close than open. (closed = class based, open = non classed based) There's a lot more i could get into tailmens, tatoos, skill elemets, skill enchanments, boss jewls, ect. but that's all for now. Those that know me can listen to me, those that dont and think i dont know what im talking about, that's fine belive what you want, just remember your server is different from ours :cool:
I know on Bartz we do not have closed sessions, mainly due in part to the small number of Noblesse Maestro's. This of course can change over time, but it is not the class one sees in parties over time, and not likely to see at high levels.
In open comp, Bartz, like many servers, has the issue of fed dwarves. One need only look at the "hero" games record.. 00 seconds..5 seconds...etc..for 38 wins to see the feeding from their clan. Not that I fault the dwarf for having a clan that offers such services, just a reality that exists until NCSoft adjust the broken point system (other post I mention about it in game suggestions).
As for dwarves fighting overpowered classes, yes we can win in open, but the cards are stacked against us. We do not have quick kills, and versus opponents with Zaken/Anthar and stun resist, landing our only decent skill (stuns) is not an option even with large + to our skills.
I know on Bartz we do not have closed sessions, mainly due in part to the small number of Noblesse Maestro's. This of course can change over time, but it is not the class one sees in parties over time, and not likely to see at high levels.
In open comp, Bartz, like many servers, has the issue of fed dwarves. One need only look at the "hero" games record.. 00 seconds..5 seconds...etc..for 38 wins to see the feeding from their clan. Not that I fault the dwarf for having a clan that offers such services, just a reality that exists until NCSoft adjust the broken point system (other post I mention about it in game suggestions).
As for dwarves fighting overpowered classes, yes we can win in open, but the cards are stacked against us. We do not have quick kills, and versus opponents with Zaken/Anthar and stun resist, landing our only decent skill (stuns) is not an option even with large + to our skills.
Man, you should REALLY get Zaken + Frint +25 hummer Crush. I landed my stun on full Epic Hero Kamael and full epic TH and many others. The problem is Tanks tbh.
Pff unless you are fed you arent gonna get hero. Last month i had more matches and more wins than the maestro hero but still didnt get it :/ (14 wins 1 loss) And those were all legit non fed matches. This month i didnt do as well T.T
my bear poster friend,
all the wins on olympiad depends from 3 things :
1st is the lvl u r and the lvl deference from u and your opoment
2nd is the skill enchant (+30 skills etc...)
3rd is the gear u have (s80 armor,boss jewels,vasper everything u can imagine)
i am in a hurry now maybe an other person can explain it better but these r the basic rules for a sucesfull oly career
P.s. sorry for my bad english i know its sucks :))
i currently play on Teon and since i transfered i never lost hero. i might be given some points from clan to help me out too but thats not the main point income for me.
Dwarfs who want to compete in oly have only 1 thing thats is really important and thats STUN.
Get all ++ stun eq you can get
epics such as zaken, frint and antaras
if you cant afford them get the olympiad earring and necklace
get the earring from TW (gludio and goddard) with stun chance.
agument rings with stun patk.
skill enchants:
hammer crush - only stun you REALLY need to enchant is hammer crush, rest is not really needed. ++ it as much as you can afford.
stun attack - make it atleast +1, its extra only and is imo only used for a "sure hit" on daggers using skill evasion skills. although it can be usfull for high enchant too, after all higher level skill = higher land rate on ppl. even if the base land rate is bad.
blunt masteries - power, gives run speed, prevents you from beeing outrun or kited to death. atleast sometimes it does.
fatal strike - enchant for attribute ofc, a high ++ makes it land better on daggers with dodge or other skill evasion buffs.
tactics:
in most cases, just spam hammer crush + fatal strike.
destro and GK - only way to beat them is hoping they are stupid. i guess talismands with cancel or buff steal would be nice but i have not yet tried them myself. (been inactive for like 4months). if you can afford it, get damage reflect agument and use parry stance and hope they only hit you with normal attacks. your own damage then can kill them while damage reflect does the rest.
glads - just pray they are stupid/low level. only then can they be beaten.
nukers - pray that stun lands. run towards their spot as soon as gates open. if they go futherst inside wait at side of exit for them to come out, dont go inside its a sure loss.
kamaels - ****, dont go there ><, ahh actually arbalester can be beaten easy if you land stun. the others is just impossible only a high level difference can make you win.
daggers - hard, need to land stuns. i beat all daggers not using epics as i can keep them stunlocked. with epics, its like 30/70 in the daggers favor. ofc its abit different depending on class
archers - usually np unless they can kite you. which makes SR harder then HE. just follow with stun + fatal.
tanks - PK and TK is just impossible. ToL > your dps. HK and SK, very hard almost never beaten any of them. SK used to be esiest of them though, but i havent fought a SK for a long time now.
Healers - almost same a nukers. they cant 2 shot you like nukers, but instead they can burn you out of MP and once out of MP you have lost. usually the most important is the first 1-2 sec of the match, land a stun then and you can if your lucky finish it in a few seconds. if you dont and they mange to slow you its usually your loss.
hmm, cant think of anything more atm. oh, having a 2nd PC or a friend to watch who goes in and out of matches and paying attention to when your most difficult opponents enter and then selecting when to sign and unsign could help you avoid the ppl that have the highest chances of beating you.
ps. my own EQ atm is icarus hammer, dyn heavy with resist, zaken, aq, ring with stun patk agu, oly earring and frint. sometimes i get to borrow antharas earring and for difficult matches those 10% extra from antaras vs oly earring is what makes a game a win or loss.
150 attack vs 0 defence = 70% damage increase
150 attack vs 6 defence = 40% damage increase
150 attack vs 102 and more defence = damage bonus slowly decrease till 150 resist.
150 attack vs 156+ defence = 0% damage increase
300 attack vs 0 defence = 100% damage increase
300 attack vs 6 defence = 70% damage increase
300 attack vs 156 defence = 40% damage increase
300 attack vs 252 defence+ = 40% and damage bonus slowly decrease till 300 resist.
300 attack vs 312+ defence = 0% damage increase
if you look at the above you realise you need some resist in order to beat the most damage out of it the attacks. but you need ALOT before you start getting a good damage reduction. 150+ resist against ppl with 300 attribute. also it means that you cant get a "perfect" resist to all attributes, you can select to have good against 1 or 2, or spread them as i did on 5.
btw, these numbers were taken from PvP situations, its to me unknown if the same really applies to PvE. afaik they differ somewhat.
Titans are easy for me :P Active reflect augment, then passive on my main weapon, Riposte Stance, plus epics. Always get hit for 8k and reflect back 6.8-7k. If I lose, I lose by 300 HP or less. Once lost to someone who had just 15 HP left T_T
Titans are easy for me :P Active reflect augment, then passive on my main weapon, Riposte Stance, plus epics. Always get hit for 8k and reflect back 6.8-7k. If I lose, I lose by 300 HP or less. Once lost to someone who had just 15 HP left T_T
I'd kill for active reflect agument.
although, you still win if they instead spam skills instead of normal hits?
If they're smart, they spam skills. They don't do skills too often. I have yet to lose by a large margin of HP with that setup. it's just fighting every OTHER class in the game that's a problem :P
yeah lowbie daggers without good gear/enchants are easy but it's basically impossible to beat a stacked one my lvl
I think all you have to do, is to have a good Augment (celestial).
For example. When I have a dagger against me, I w8 till he disappears, then I start running for a bit. Then I suddenly stop and cast celestial. That's the first time when they hit me with their skill. But I'm still invulnerable. I hit with FatalStrike and then perform some more running again. Then... if the only stun ONE stun lands... dagger is almost 90% dead (if he won't use hp/CP restore talismans).
I only play since start of Luna T_T can't provide any older screen than that :/ The server was like 2 weeks old back then. And spending money on CP when I couldn't afford to use gatekeeper ... ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND??? :D
I only play since start of Luna T_T can't provide any older screen than that :/ The server was like 2 weeks old back then. And spending money on CP when I couldn't afford to use gatekeeper ... ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND??? :D
what he meant was that in the old days CP didn't exist at all.
sry next time I'll post a pic from before I started playing L2 lol ... you grumpy old farts T_T
"OLD" doesnt necessarily have to mean that it was screened 5 years ago. It's the char's level that counts. But if the fact that you play longer than me menas that you > me, and it does you good, be my guest ^^
ok Smitty next time I'll post a pic from before I started playing L2 lol ... you really are a grumpy old **** you know that? :D
Ok Limilla. Next time you can post whatever you want. Just make sure you quote ME when you want to randomly talk out of your behind. It makes you look less stupid.
PS. You quoted Nuku, not me. Wasn't sure if you were aware.
Ok Limilla. Next time you can post whatever you want. Just make sure you quote ME when you want to randomly talk out of your behind. It makes you look less stupid.
PS. You quoted Nuku, not me. Wasn't sure if you were aware.
my post was Last edited by killerb; Today at 11:14 AM.
geez you didnt even gimme the time to edit. are you ever NOT on the forum? :D
sry i only looked at the avatar not the user name, and even that is not the same. I just associated the "grumpy ol' fartness" of that post with you :D
sry again :)
then again, you could start posting stuff without direct attacking/mocking of people, eh? ^^
my post was Last edited by killerb; Today at 11:14 AM.
geez you didnt even gimme the time to edit. are you ever NOT on the forum? :D
sry i only looked at the avatar not the user name, and even that is not the same. I just associated the "grumpy ol' fartness" of that post with you :D
sry again :)
then again, you could start posting stuff without direct attacking/mocking of people, eh? ^^