Fav buff heal

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This question is for non-healers/buffers:

What is your favorite support class?
Tell me why!
Overlord. Easy choice really. Good enough buffs and amazing ability to crowdcontrol, tank, heal, dd etc.

<3 Mana VR.
My PP ^^ shes just so cute :)
EE, even though I box a SE lol..but i like the ee cuz of clarity/wm/powater/resist shock/pr and in gracia +, they will be able to get emp =D
EE, even though I box a SE lol..but i like the ee cuz of clarity/wm/powater/resist shock/pr and in gracia +, they will be able to get emp =D

and an SE can get clarity, pr, resist shock, bag... AND powind > powater.
and an SE can get clarity, pr, resist shock, bag... AND powind > powater.

Mis read this ^^ off topic a sec can the dual buffs be taken by the other classes?
i like the ee cuz of pr

pr...ok,what enemies think about it?
if i understood it correctly PoW and PoW are NOT skills which can be taken by other healers as they are 3rd class skills. :rolleyes:

he didn't say they can take each other's prophecies, he said powind is better than powater ...
> is a mathematical sign that denotes greater than
ya its late ^^ i misread that :)
DoomCryer for sure ^^

Best way to go for fighter buffs, some heal over time, some crowd control (nasty sleep ;)), and I love CoV :p Also Mana VR is very nice and they have a decent dmg output with constant soul cry on
im have to say 9k crits on a warlord with counter crit are hax
<Dominator... so my fav is clear...
but the reason i'm posting...

Why would Blade Dancer and Sword Singer be left out of the discussion?
i mean they're support classes too, even though they work slightly different.

i'm not including inspector, because i don't know any...

but, Blade Dancer has some pretty nice dances... and also has good damage output.
I have 2 go with SE.

I get all the buffs I need as a fighter and just pop a haste Potion and off I go. With Bless the blood and Greater Heal and VR even with 6 level 75+ mobs on me with my Light armor I will make it without killing my SE mp Pool. :D


My SE has a Bird Pet anyway so he's never out MP which means I'm never out of MP (another good thing about a SE) :)

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eashleymivida/BackinTime.jpg
I have 2 go with SE.

I get all the buffs I need as a fighter and just pop a haste Potion and off I go. With Bless the blood and Greater Heal and VR even with 6 level 75+ mobs on me with my Light armor I will make it without killing my SE mp Pool. :D


My SE has a Bird Pet anyway so he's never out MP which means I'm never out of MP (another good thing about a SE) :)

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eashleymivida/BackinTime.jpg

Nice Apella... it is strong for PVE.
Nice Apella... it is strong for PVE.

LOefenL how silly.....this just proves AGAIN that all you kids exp afk...
pr...ok,what enemies think about it?

Cuz I two box during pvp. lol..******
I didn't include Bladedancer or Sword Singer because they aren't mystics. However, I think that I will make a poll: BD vs. SWS

BD ftw!


:)kick
for single support slot i'd pick SE 79+ - decent melee buff/pow and mana gain recharge (because melee skills are very good in pve now) and heals sufficient for duo. Also SE got stigma of shillien which is a must for melees (in case of boxed SE you can make a simple macro that targets DD, assists, casts stigma and targets back a DD - this can be used to quickly stigma every mob you target before you get to it). for particulary hard mobs there is a Break Shield debuff that removes shield buffs and then further decreases pdef. It's a bit more expensive than stigma but still pretty useful in places with very strong mobs - I use it in addition to stigma of course.

PP? well it means no vr and no emp so it's neither mage nor melee, I don't know what's the point .. although bers and blessed body/soul make this a good second support.

WC, no heals or recharge and no hex-like stuff .. though good for mages with magnus chant so would be good for them when combined with SE.

OL - this one got all the good stuff PP got (ok, except for the resistances) and with quick clan buff, so definitely I'd pick this over PP as second support after SE.

EE, well it's good for heals only, very basic buffs .. however it's ok when combined with town newbie buffer (if you're not a dagger - those require focus/dw).. It is also a good second support for poles and in places where mobs stun alot - Resist Shock in addition to maj heavy set and you can forget about stuns (even if it lands, it wears off very quickly).
This question is for Boxers/botters:

What is your favorite support class?
Tell me why!

That's what you meant...
botting and boxing are two very different things (you can't automate stuff with boxing - have to do all the stuff yourself by switching boxes so only a few regular actions are possible), also one is bannable and the other is not, so your edit is pretty pointless.
LOefenL how silly.....this just proves AGAIN that all you kids exp afk...

Please DrTulp, what part of the Apella set bonus is awesome for pve? Coz I do nothing BUT pve, and I never saw any good stats in them in comparison to other a grade armors.
Please DrTulp, what part of the Apella set bonus is awesome for pve? Coz I do nothing BUT pve, and I never saw any good stats in them in comparison to other a grade armors.

That's exactly my point. He is 80+ and doesn't have a clue about PvsE.
First I have to say lets give some love to our cardi's, yes the buffs are bad (aside from prayer and boa), but come on the healin can't be beat.

I'm a cardi and I play with an EE box with chicken pet, as far as support for me goes, EE or SE preferred for recharges.
That's exactly my point. He is 80+ and doesn't have a clue about PvsE.

Are you too ******ed to detect sarcasm?
Are you too ******ed to detect sarcasm?

Hahahahahahah....nice comeback!

Sarcasm...sure :)
Hahahahahahah....nice comeback!

Sarcasm...sure :)

Why would I condone the use of the worst armor set in game? Common armor is better than apella.
Apella looks nice though, and the CP bonus could save your skin...

and as for...
botting and boxing are two very different things (you can't automate stuff with boxing - have to do all the stuff yourself by switching boxes so only a few regular actions are possible), also one is bannable and the other is not, so your edit is pretty pointless.

it was a true edit...
the answers we give have a lot to do with boxed buffers...
i don't have any, but most people prefer Warcryer and prophets for boxes.
as for Botting... it's hard to catch when someone is using a bot program for only healing and buffing... maybe more people do it than you think...
i find SE and PP are most common Botted buffer pets though Warcryer is up there, soon to be top. (warcryer is easy enough to just auto follow, and macro buff without using a bot program)
Apella looks nice though, and the CP bonus could save your skin...

The extra cp is going to help you how? Make you last 1/2 a hit longer to bsoe?

elemental resist + any set bonus > cp.
Why would I condone the use of the worst armor set in game? Common armor is better than apella.

Cause you are PRO ;p
Cause you are PRO ;p

Why even bother replying when you have nothing to say, and owned yourself with your own stupidity?
Lol i love name calling when you show people just how Pro you are....it was YOU that said Apella was the best PvsE armor.

I think we both know you got caught son. Then you play the sarcasm card...

You are 80+ and don't know sheep from shineola

Then you say that NG is better than Apella.

And you call me stupid...lol

Like i said son...... you are Pro!
Lol i love name calling when you show people just how Pro you are....it was YOU that said Apella was the best PvsE armor.

I think we both know you got caught son. Then you play the sarcasm card...

You are 80+ and don't know sheep from shineola

Then you say that NG is better than Apella.

And you call me stupid...lol

Like i said son...... you are Pro!

How do you function in society? It is common knowledge that apella is a horrible armor set, and by me saying it was great for pve I was implying sarcasm through the use of irony.

Where did I say NG was better than apella? I said common armor was better than apella. It isn't name calling when it is the truth.

Then again I am sure you are the type of person who thinks everyone that is 80+ is a botter, and anyone in s80 with boss jewels is an ebayer.

Please stop replying... I will continue to make you look foolish.
Lol i love name calling when you show people just how Pro you are....it was YOU that said Apella was the best PvsE armor.

I think we both know you got caught son. Then you play the sarcasm card...

You are 80+ and don't know sheep from shineola

Then you say that NG is better than Apella.

And you call me stupid...lol

Like i said son...... you are Pro!

Its kinda obvious he was making fun of his apella lol.. Its implied on any level of rational thought.
Its kinda obvious he was making fun of his apella lol.. Its implied on any level of rational thought.

No i think he was trying to impress Ashley....but showed he knows little about PvsE and it would take a lot more than a wet nose kid to impress that Lady.

Look the guy got caught telling Ashley that Apella is the best PvsE. Most people that "play" the game know this isn't true.

When kids get caught they start name calling and making excuses....and BTW I don't think all 80+ are cheaters just some.

At least he knows the difference between Ng and Common! He should say the Grade of Common though...it does come that way..... graded.

BTW Qynt.....It's nobel of you to try and stick up for your young. Maybe you can teach him about the different armor types and their uses...that way he won't show himself inbareass :p
Oh buy a sarcasm detector dude and quit with the rants

PS I know of a whole clan that bought Apellas like hotcakes, reason being their wars were down and Apella was the answer to them getting PKed all the time. Snag was they all died within 5 minutes of trying to pve hellbound.
No i think he was trying to impress Ashley....but showed he knows little about PvsE and it would take a lot more than a wet nose kid to impress that Lady.

Look the guy got caught telling Ashley that Apella is the best PvsE. Most people that "play" the game know this isn't true.

When kids get caught they start name calling and making excuses....and BTW I don't think all 80+ are cheaters just some.

At least he knows the difference between Ng and Common! He should say the Grade of Common though...it does come that way..... graded.

BTW Qynt.....It's nobel of you to try and stick up for your young. Maybe you can teach him about the different armor types and their uses...that way he won't show himself inbareass :p

RATIONAL THOUGHT. Im not quite sure who pheonixdown even is. I have some ideas, but it makes no difference. It comes back to a guy wearing apella in a catacomb. Serves no purpose, hence the comment.

If he made a habbit of posting bad info, this might make some sense. Unrelated to the post, but related to your attack, youd be very silly to assume botters dont know L2 too well. Most botters know a hell of a lot more than the non-botters in my experience in L2. Theyd have to understand the mechanics to run a half decent group. Considering the targets of your hatred Tulp, most of Nova has a better grasp of L2 and its mechanics than you. Im not trying to bash, Im just saying, seriously now... Tulp is a man who believes an arrow becomes less harmful as it travels its trajectory. Tulp comes from a world of madness.
No i think he was trying to impress Ashley....but showed he knows little about PvsE and it would take a lot more than a wet nose kid to impress that Lady.

Look the guy got caught telling Ashley that Apella is the best PvsE. Most people that "play" the game know this isn't true.

When kids get caught they start name calling and making excuses....and BTW I don't think all 80+ are cheaters just some.

At least he knows the difference between Ng and Common! He should say the Grade of Common though...it does come that way..... graded.

BTW Qynt.....It's nobel of you to try and stick up for your young. Maybe you can teach him about the different armor types and their uses...that way he won't show himself inbareass :p

Why would I try and impress an Apella warrior that doesn't have enough sense to get her toon out of A grade?

Obviously, if we were talking Apella which is an A grade armor set, one would imagine that I was referencing common A grade armor. However, this all seems to be beyond your mental capacity.

btw, Apella has no purpose other than aesthetic reasons since the xp loss modifier was nerfed this chronicle.

What are the names of Tulp's toons? I feel the need for karma.
LoL...... my my a Pro player convention all focusing on little old me.

Really Qynt...

Well as you may or may not know Deer hunting season started today in my neck of the woods (Ontario, Canada).
I happen to be a Hunter...and the only way we can "legally" hunt is with a bow and arrow.
and you are right when we hunt we always get as far away from the deer as possible so that our bolts will be devastating. Everyone knows that the longer the shot the more power an arrow has...
Many times we've sat in a blind and as soon as we spot a deer we all climb down and run like heck to get away from it so that we could kill it....all of us do this...we wear bright clothes so the deer can spot us and give us the longest shot possible.
Your rational thought would lead us to believe that an arrow as opposed to everything else in the world is not subject to friction and that it has some sort of self propusion..; sure why not. and nice twist of words Shaggy...thought you were above that .

@Phoenix....exactly why she wore it...cause it was for fashion Shaggy. Glad you got there after only 4-5 posts. I was wrong you are soooooooooo...well you know.... to have gotten there by yourself.

As far as what my character names are ask your friends....those that have Alts in Nova, CC, Divine,Camalot,FS and every other major clan on the server. They know the names of all my toons on all servers.

However my toons are low/mid 70s so they wouldn't stand much of a chance and i know how much you would like a fair fight....lol.
btw, Apella has no purpose other than aesthetic reasons since the xp loss modifier was nerfed this chronicle.

Congrats you win lol Ashley and myself (along with probably a few others) wear the Apella Armor for Looks not for Benifit of killing,

...I thought it was very well known Ashley wore the Apella for looks
A tie for me between Prophet and Shillien Elder.
At least he knows the difference between Ng and Common! He should say the Grade of Common though...it does come that way..... graded.


Dont quote me on it, but im fairly sure there is no Common No grade armors.
Dont quote me on it, but im fairly sure there is no Common No grade armors.

Hee Hee™ :D
Why would I condone the use of the worst armor set in game? Common armor is better than apella.

No it's not!

Common Majestic Light Don't come close to a +4 +3 +3 +3 Appella Light P defence. and you get extra HP from the +4 Main Armor.


My Appella Set is a Improved appella set that is +5 +4 +4 +4 So it gives me way more P defence then Common Majestic and over 200 more HP.

In fact Here is me in +4 +3 +3 +3 Majestic Light armor it's not even common

http://home.comcast.net/~ashleymivida/Majestic.jpg

And Here I am in my Appella

http://home.comcast.net/~ashleymivida/ApellaL.jpg

As you can see with The More HP and More P defense and my Boxed SE as support not only can I take a beating longer but I can AOE in this Set much better and Look good doing it ;)


On a side note with the Extra CP I don't have 2 BSOE, I'm light Elf I can just run away and get out of range before they can kill me :rolleyes:


Congrats you win lol Ashley and myself (along with probably a few others) wear the Apella Armor for Looks not for Benifit of killing,

...I thought it was very well known Ashley wore the Apella for looks

At lest some one pays Attention. I have no need for S grade when I don't PVP besides I look like a Lobster in Light S grade armor
23 pdef more and like 200 hp?

Ya I can see how that is better than stun resist, poison/bleed resist, or heck even more attackspeed/patk.

No wait, I cant really see that.
At lest some one pays Attention. I have no need for S grade when I don't PVP besides I look like a Lobster in Light S grade armor

:D thanks for giving me one good reason to not sub archer/dagger
23 pdef more and like 200 hp?

Ya I can see how that is better than stun resist, poison/bleed resist, or heck even more attackspeed/patk.

No wait, I cant really see that.

LoL Fashion ..never underestimate Fashion. I'm sure Ashley does OK. Stun,Poison,bleed resist is useless against mobs that don't.

Attack speed is provided by MiVida or Pots.

Also take into consideration that with my TH i one shoot mobs with BS 95% of the time. I really don't need attack speed as a regular diet (just use more Shots) or higher Patk...just need my BS to land.
heck even more attackspeed/patk.




wow I'm sure going 2 miss that +4 attack speed on a dagger class.........




Stun,Poison,bleed resist is useless against mobs that don't.


That is 100% right

and I don't fight mobs that poison or bleed and the few that stun? I have 30 con in majestic i'm not going resist much anyway. at least in Appella I have 31 con........


and it's 23 more p defence then +4+3+3+3 Majestic...that other guy was talking about Common Majestic. My Apella has a lot more then 23 more P defence then Common. :rolleyes:
wow I'm sure going 2 miss that +4 attack speed on a dagger class.........


That is 100% right

and I don't fight mobs that poison or bleed and the few that stun? I have 30 con in majestic i'm not going resist much anyway. at least in Appella I have 31 con........


and it's 23 more p defence then +4+3+3+3 Majestic...that other guy was talking about Common Majestic. My Apella has a lot more then 23 more P defence then Common. :rolleyes:


I made a nice picture that would have disputed your entire argument, and I really was going to post it. But the image site said someone already used up all the bandwidth for pictures today, so I guess I can't.

Any clue who used it all up?
This question is for non-healers/buffers:

What is your favorite support class?
Tell me why!

The Thread title does not go with your question.

The title.....Fav Buff Heal......tells me you are asking what support class do we think can buff the best & heal the best all in 1 class.

That would have to be SE.
Kind of a silly question, as you need usually more than 1 support class in an effective party. Also, Blade Dancers and Sword Singers are Support classes as well.
The Thread title does not go with your question.

The title.....Fav Buff Heal......tells me you are asking what support class do we think can buff the best & heal the best all in 1 class.

That would have to be SE.

Note: notice the lack of the characters "s" and the word "and". I did not write "Fav Buffs and Heals", which would have implied a character that does both well. I wrote "Fav Buff Heal" where anyone with an understanding of english greater than that of an infant would know that a "/" was implied between "Buff" and "Heal", rendering your comment useless and annoying.

ty :)
<3 Kick
I didn't include Bladedancer or Sword Singer because they aren't mystics. However, I think that I will make a poll: BD vs. SWS

BD ftw!


:)kick

Jykri, please read this. /smackforehead
He dosnt he just trolls and flys off handles and talks

Dont mind him he's one of phx slow kids
Note: notice the lack of the characters "s" and the word "and". I did not write "Fav Buffs and Heals", which would have implied a character that does both well. I wrote "Fav Buff Heal" where anyone with an understanding of english greater than that of an infant would know that a "/" was implied between "Buff" and "Heal", rendering your comment useless and annoying.

ty :)
<3 Kick

Anybody with the understanding of english greater than an infant would know that fav buff heal is not a question rendering this thread to be annoying and useless also you just need to shut the **** up in general

so ya stop talking really... >.>
He dosnt he just trolls and flys off handles and talks

Dont mind him he's one of phx slow kids

yeah your right @_@ well good day!