This Game is a Wasteland now

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only been gone for a few months and now i spend two hours looking for a group and nothing. I know l2 is dieing but i hoped i could get another good run out of it before it actually killed over, how sad
Join an active clan :) What server?
Also you should know, since aion retail release in western countries its been quieter, while people are checking it out. Once the first free month is past I expect it will pick up some. And in six months all the bored aion folk will be back ;)

Still - I find its a lot better now (since gracia) than it ever was in the chonicle or two before. Plenty active enough for me.
Also you should know, since aion retail release in western countries its been quieter, while people are checking it out. Once the first free month is past I expect it will pick up some. And in six months all the bored aion folk will be back ;)

Still - I find its a lot better now (since gracia) than it ever was in the chonicle or two before. Plenty active enough for me.

x2

Things will pick back up in a few months. Especially when a few events kick off.
what class/lvl are you?
some classes only hear tumbleweed when they ask for groups
only been gone for a few months and now i spend two hours looking for a group and nothing. I know l2 is dieing but i hoped i could get another good run out of it before it actually killed over, how sad

Stop looking for a Group and make one....
Stop looking for a Group and make one....

isn't that the same thing...

surely a shout of "sws lfg" is pretty much the same as "sws making group looking for members"


However, in response to the OP, I think the servers ARE quiet, but that's aion, and summertime. The rains have started properly in the UK so the latter wont be an issue soon, and as someone already pointed out, the free time on aion will be over soon.

We don't have problems finding party in our clan or ally - at most levels (including HB), and thats on a smallish (but castle owning) alliance on Devianne

-Dw
isn't that the same thing...

surely a shout of "sws lfg" is pretty much the same as "sws making group looking for members"


However, in response to the OP, I think the servers ARE quiet, but that's aion, and summertime. The rains have started properly in the UK so the latter wont be an issue soon, and as someone already pointed out, the free time on aion will be over soon.

We don't have problems finding party in our clan or ally - at most levels (including HB), and thats on a smallish (but castle owning) alliance on Devianne

-Dw

no it's different because you go out and start hunting and have a Hero Shout once for you. last time I check Sit and regen still works so you can solo till more people come.....



also join a better clan. If your the type that likes to group then your either in the wrong clan or not in one.....
Not a wasteland on my server. Plenty of groups, both clan based and open, for nice people who know their class.

Hmm, might that be the problem? It is always easier to blame the game then look inside, eh?
I just logged into Bartz and it's a wasteland.

I'm sure most other servers are the same.

People do PUGs in Lineage II now? It's been like... months - a year since I seen a halfway decent one that isn't filled with level 60 characters.

It's like this cause of Aion, and the fact that the game is dying and some people are just quitting cause there isn't much to play for anymore. This type of game needs a reasonably high player population to be fun.

Of course, there are always people who think killing the same mobs they've been killing for months is fun. Power to the people.

Bartz looks like Devianne at the height of it's deadness (when I was there). People now post about killing raid bosses, instead of epic seiges or PvP over said raid bosses...
i just logged into bartz and it's a wasteland.

I'm sure most other servers are the same.

People do pugs in lineage ii now? It's been like... Months - a year since i seen a halfway decent one that isn't filled with level 60 characters.

It's like this cause of aion, and the fact that the game is dying and some people are just quitting cause there isn't much to play for anymore. This type of game needs a reasonably high player population to be fun.

Of course, there are always people who think killing the same mobs they've been killing for months is fun. Power to the people.

Bartz looks like devianne at the height of it's deadness (when i was there). People now post about killing raid bosses, instead of epic seiges or pvp over said raid bosses...
LOL! Tren you do good work, sir...

BTW to all those thinking it; Aion is actually a lot of fun. So don't get your hopes up too high about everyone returning to the third world after tasting something that doesn't leave them feeling hungry all the time...
LOL! Tren you do good work, sir...

BTW to all those thinking it; Aion is actually a lot of fun. So don't get your hopes up too high about everyone returning to the third world after tasting something that doesn't leave them feeling hungry all the time...

Fun yes. Many games are just fun. Lineage is fun too but what makes it so different to all the other mmo's is that its more like a freeform virtual world, with swords, and castles.

After you are used to the game the fun fades, and there needs to be something left to stay or new things to find fun. Time will tell if they have that free virtual world feeling lineage has, but I dont think so. I'm such a skeptic because nothing I've ever tried does, they all just feel like games and nothing more than that. Lineage is a game too, but... something special there. I'll be here until Lineage 3.

That said Aion is a good game in its own right. I just dont see it being long term magic.
IMO, all L2 has going for it now is familiarity, and the fact you leveled a character to 78+ through blood, sweat and tears. I seriously believe a lot of people are holding on simply because of what they have 'achieved'. This is cool though. the only time trouble will arise is ife these people ever wake up and realise how much time they wasted.

Someone will come along and say "I play fo ma' friends yo" or something but you can play anything with your friends online tbh. Even the huge pile of crappy flash games while your on vent or w/e. It's not a reason to continue playing, merely a 'pretty' excuse to hide mask something else.

... Okay this is sounding a bit too negative. L2 is/was a good game. It just got it's heart ripped out a long time ago and has been living on life-support for an age. A concept as strong as the original premise needs support, and in all fairness it just didn't get it.

Aion isn't the answer ofc (it's but one of many that's all) and there may well not be another pleasing alternative for a lot of people. None of this changes the fact that L2 in it's current state is trash...
LordRiot i agree with u 100%... the only reason i bother to log in that game is that i have a char that took away 2 years of my life to achieve his lvl and money... but when i log in there is NOTHING to do... i get bored and log out again...thank god my clanmates pay my subscription :P
To me the more long term a mmo is the better. Harder is also better. Feels more worthwhile to achieve, and thats that.

Some think mmo begins when you are max level, to me that is when it ends. Sure you'd have some fun now and then with but wuddnt hold much more appeal for me for long once there.

Quick quote (http://www.mpog.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/view/forums/post/3136923#3136923) from aion forum:

"Aion certainly isn't for everyone, and yes... it does take work to get to the level cap... <snip> I'm not in a rush to get to level cap and I couldn't care less if I takes me a few months or even till Christmas to get there (which is actually my goal). I like working for things and being given a sense of accomplishment.

No one can tell you if you'll like it - you'll have to pick it up and give it a try. Takes about 3 hours to get to level 10 - after that you pick your class (you have a sub-class prior to that) and then the game really opens up. Yes, its a little linear compared to some MMOs (IE: It helps you/tells you where the quests are for the most part) but I actually like being given direction. I can explore anytime I want and I do plenty...

<snip>... some hardcore players are already mid-40's but obviously they are putting in a lot of time (6+ hours a day). The average gamer will likely hit cap in 2-3 months depending on play time, how good/fast they level etc. L2 was a very long progression, and getting to level cap there could take years. Here, it's tough but not that tough... and there's so much to do I don't even want to rush to level cap. I enjoy just going at my own pace. "

Give me tough for a mmo - ffs please. Everything else is just a short game.
And for the record I enjoy killing stuff and combat rather than running around to different npcs for quests. But thats just me.
... the only reason i bother to log in that game is that i have a char that took away 2 years of my life to achieve his lvl and money...

many ppl also spend some years of their lifes with playing lego, driving toy cars, collecting action-figueres and pee in their diapers... if i use your logic... u still doing all that, right?
LordRiot i agree with u 100%... the only reason i bother to log in that game is that i have a char that took away 2 years of my life to achieve his lvl and money... but when i log in there is NOTHING to do... i get bored and log out again...thank god my clanmates pay my subscription :P

Dude I have waaaay too much to do that I dont get anywhere near the grind time I would like. And there is so much more I'd like to do that I just simply have to write it off - like fishing, I find that really fun but never ever get time for it whatsoever.

Lineage doesnt spoon feed you content. You need to discover it for yourself. Perhaps ask you clan leader if there is any projects you can work on for him/her.
I see allready people coming back that left for Aion.
Not a wasteland on my server. Plenty of groups, both clan based and open, for nice people who know their class.

Hmm, might that be the problem? It is always easier to blame the game then look inside, eh?

hahahahahaaa *passes BEER ;) I think you hit it on the head!
I see allready people coming back that left for Aion.
The game was dead before Aion Closed Beta, so that doesn't matter.

Also, Lineage II doesn't get a factorable amount of new subscribers, so every player that is lost (especially geared high level players) hurts this game - a lot.

Keep in mine, NCSoft has already merged a bunch of servers. For the game to be in this state today speaks volumes of the ratio of players leaving to those joining/returning.

Keep being delusional, though. The game has been going down at an accellerating rate since Interlude.
The game was dead before Aion Closed Beta, so that doesn't matter.

Also, Lineage II doesn't get a factorable amount of new subscribers, so every player that is lost (especially geared high level players) hurts this game - a lot.

Keep in mine, NCSoft has already merged a bunch of servers. For the game to be in this state today speaks volumes of the ratio of players leaving to those joining/returning.

Keep being delusional, though. The game has been going down at an accellerating rate since Interlude.

I heard this same argument on the forums when I started in 2005 and I can't answer for others, but EAC is growing and I am having a blast and invite others to join me! :D
I heard this same argument on the forums when I started in 2005 and I can't answer for others, but EAC is growing and I am having a blast and invite others to join me! :D

omg you didn't drink a beer in that sentence! o.o
omg you didn't drink a beer in that sentence! o.o
yeah sorry was empty and needed to run for a refill :D
*passes Spiced Pumpkin BEER
yeah sorry was empty and needed to run for a refill :D
*passes Spiced Pumpkin BEER

There we go! xD
Yay forum party!!!!!!! :))
ok I posted the wrong smiley too :D OMG need more BEER! :D
ok I posted the wrong smiley too :D OMG need more BEER! :D

Isi...that little a** cup isn't going to last us long....*lifts a giant mug of beer on table then the table brakes*o.o..
I want a BIG ***** cup too!
c[] :D *runs to get a straw
I want a BIG ***** cup too!
c[] :D *runs to get a straw
I needs moar! my mugs empty : o
hehehehehee and they thought there thread wouldn't be fun! :D *kicks broken table aside and passes more BEER!!
hehehehehee and they thought there thread wouldn't be fun! :D *kicks broken table aside and passes more BEER!!

wooooo! * puts my arm over Isi* did you know psh wahhaaa that...bishis and ees arn't allowed to drink *drinks more* waaa... poor saps xD
Sorry, I'm too sophisticated for your Beer fest. Can't we please have some good red wine and stinky cheeses with some french bread? now that would be nice :D
Sorry, I'm too sophisticated for your Beer fest. Can't we please have some good red wine and stinky cheeses with some french bread? now that would be nice :D

Hey w/e floats your boat :3 well as long as its not touching lil boys..we can hear what you bishis do all the way from de village..xD
Sorry, I'm too sophisticated for your Beer fest. Can't we please have some good red wine and stinky cheeses with some french bread? now that would be nice :D
yup we got that too *bows wobbley *passes Spiced Pumpkin wine :D
Where are my favorite cookies?! :eek:
Where are my favorite cookies?! :eek:
we been Partyin' todaay, sooosoos heeeres yer cooolies and sooOo sorry about yer table! :o
we been Partyin' todaay, sooosoos heeeres yer cooolies and sooOo sorry about yer table! :o

o that was bels table?...xD ya sorrys....
o that was bels table?...xD ya sorrys....

:o
I think everyone likes to see what they want to see. Of course at a certain point you can't intentionally blind yourself to what is happening though.

Sure the populations may be down from what they used to be, in all servers, and sure Aion being a new interesting game offering a faster gaming experience for one to go into and get good stuff is appealing but to each their own. If you have someone that is constantly saying to themselves "This server sucks, its empty, L2 is dying, why play, Aion is better" then in your eyes this is going to be the truth. However for others it may be "L2 is still fun, I enjoy it, the population seems stable, plenty to still do and to offer me."

My point is, the more you beat it into your mind that something sucks or is great, the more true it is going to be. Call this game dead, but it still holds a lot for many players and they like to enjoy it. For those of you that are bored, try something else, see if you like it. There is no use in posting things like this here. I don't know whether it gives you a false sense of security getting the approval of your peers in knowing that they think the same, or what... All I know is posts like this hurt the game. There are people daily that come to the forums and look to see what is going on to get at least some insight into how the game is. Seeing things like this isn't going to help bring new people here, it will push them away.
Got lemonade? :(
Got lemonade? :(
It's October *passes Spiced Pumpkin Cider :p
Ill say it again for the cheap seats......


They havent shut down lineage 1 after 11 yrs running... what makes u think theyll shut down lineage 2 anytime soon?

*oh and btw ill take a moosehead:)
alot of people aren't going to come back aion simply because it's quite a good game. Majority of the players i've ran into in lineage2 that have played aion only have come back to lineage2 to finish out their time spent getting the most out of l2 before packing it up for good.

either giving alot of their gear to friends to people in the game... or selling it for *cough*.. unfortunately...

I only know of one person out of maybe 50 people that have tried aion and came back thinking it sucked.. and the major reason they figured it sucked was the excessive wait time in quere..... she figured she'd go back soon as they got that sorted.

I've got aion... but i don't plan to get into it just yet..

Not sure, but i tend to like to let a game mature awhile before spending any real time in something as critical as a MMORPG...
Fun yes. Many games are just fun. Lineage is fun too but what makes it so different to all the other mmo's is that its more like a freeform virtual world, with swords, and castles.


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/Agree :)

lets hope nscoft will hear her customers and will adjust more things so l2 will move on..
Ill say it again for the cheap seats......


They havent shut down lineage 1 after 11 yrs running... what makes u think theyll shut down lineage 2 anytime soon?

*oh and btw ill take a moosehead:)
oooooow MOOOSEHEAD *passes mmmmmm :p
The game was dead before Aion Closed Beta, so that doesn't matter.

Also, Lineage II doesn't get a factorable amount of new subscribers, so every player that is lost (especially geared high level players) hurts this game - a lot.

Keep in mine, NCSoft has already merged a bunch of servers. For the game to be in this state today speaks volumes of the ratio of players leaving to those joining/returning.

Keep being delusional, though. The game has been going down at an accellerating rate since Interlude.

Dont matter? it was pointed to that people from aion might not come back and I said I have some friends that allready have. So it does matter.

What does that have to do with being delusional? you retired so please leave and let us play the Lineage that we still very much enjoy with out listening to your constant complaining. thanks.
well if its not a wasteland please disregard my original post, and show an old l2 vet some compassion and invite me into your clan :( i play a 65 overlord and 62 destroyer on Bartz, name is selic and tyton i look forward to getting back into the game again and having fun grinding in groups and defending each other in pvp etc etc. Its been lonely though as all of my old friends have disappeared off the face of the l2 universe never to be seen again. I know 60s isnt even a acceptable level anymore for most people and doesn't work well in anything involving endgame but getting to a level that matters in the game is proven excessively difficult on a class that sees few partys anyways (my overlord) not to mention there isn't many people to pick from to group with nowadays.
Well u see from bad viewpoint the situation of Lineage 2.

So it is true that nowadays the servers are fewer played like than about 2-3 years ago.

But what happend on this time, NCSoft banned a lots of bots from all servers so this is one thing why u see fewer characters on server.

In december of 2008 started the Lineage 2 Russia what is very popular they have mucher servers and how i know they are much time full. So this game is/was very popular in East Europe and now bigger part of new East European players change the Lineage 2 Russia.

Anyway the problems with players active be just in EU/NA region, in Asia at every country the gamers activity are very high last time how i watched from a statistic lineage 2 sales percent was higher 10% like than 1 years ago, and while AION lost from the sales, Lineage 2 sales go up. NCSoft in this or last year opened the Lineage 2 Indonesia too. So in worldwide Lineage 2 has very high popularity and very big lie that Lineage 2 is start dying.

Well nowadays much peoples go and try AION spend there some months or weeks but after much of them return to their old game be this game the Lineage 2 or anything else game.

I think that NCSoft's EU/NA team have to find some good idea how they can call back the gamers, they was more activer and creativer in this situation about 2-3 years ago, we got mucher news, events etc.

Anyway i read somebody talked about shut down of L2, it is a very big joke, in this region at nowadays too has enough players that this game running at least 10-15 years or more.

I will stay in the game while i can stay because LINEAGE 2 IS THE BEST GAME!!

Anyway now i say that server merging can be good idea if we can have 3-4-5 servers with high or higher traffic can be give much fun for currently and new players and after if seems that will need more server again reopen some servers.
Teon is consistently light, so it's a fact that players are fewer now than there were a month ago. We will be able to draw safer conclusions about the future of the NA/EU servers when the free month ends for the people who try Aion.

In any case, the number of new players who join this game is very low. The game is in decline, although that doesn't mean it will die (e.g. servers turned off) anytime soon.
I see Aion advertisements on sites I've never seen any NC game advertised before. So yeah guess they are doing now what they refused to do for L2. I'm very sceptic about all those ppl saying many many will go back to L2, imo some will, but by then may be even more of the current players will leave. It doesn't look good in my eyes, hope I'm wrong :P

P.S. Any1 actually knows how many servers/ppl still exist in L1? I'm quite curious bout that....are they mostly bots?
i heard about 3 Lineage 1 server in this region, Lineage 1 released at here too late i think and didnt get enough advertisment. but in Korea are about 50 Lineage 1 server.
anyway i tried the AION in may in China than always released the news that much the players annd in every week opened around 10 new servers about for 2 months when i stopped play with it in first days in june at the next time i logged in for a little time in august but the server where i played and was very popular under 2 months went to realy dead server, example Devianne server is a player paradise if we resemble it to chinese AION server, well while i played in china it was free but in august had to pay for use the game. So i think not need make drama after 2-3 months the ppls who just wanted test the aion or realy like the Lineage 2 they will sure come back.

So i say for every Lineage 2 players not make drama, everybody stay in L2 and play with:) i will do it:) Im sure that NCSoft will make something that their customers in EU/NA get much from Lineage 2 and they will try earn new customers too.

We will have just make drama if we will have got just 1 server in this region and its activity will half of the most little server's activity:)
I have cancelled my account because the amount of cheating going on makes it not worth playing. No hard feelings thats just the way it is. The GMs/support did a really bad job of staying of top of it (like they will do in Aion too!) and it destroyed any kind of meaningful competition.
wonder how long this thread is going to continue before it gets locked
I have cancelled my account because the amount of cheating going on makes it not worth playing. No hard feelings thats just the way it is. The GMs/support did a really bad job of staying of top of it (like they will do in Aion too!) and it destroyed any kind of meaningful competition.


So are you also going to quit driving your car because the police don't arrest all the speeders and people who roll through stop signs?
I have cancelled my account because the amount of cheating going on makes it not worth playing. No hard feelings thats just the way it is. The GMs/support did a really bad job of staying of top of it (like they will do in Aion too!) and it destroyed any kind of meaningful competition.

ooow wow bb and can I have your stuff?
^^
Dont matter? it was pointed to that people from aion might not come back and I said I have some friends that allready have. So it does matter.
Your friends came back because they're your friends, and want to play with their friends. I've already stated that to be the case for many people who continue to play Lineage II. Also, some people thought the Aion grind would have been as easy as WoW, but it's a bit more difficult (i.e. longer) than that. Why go grind up from scratch in another game when you have a higher level toon in Lineage II? You friends hardly matter, cause the game is still dead with them.

When you get half of the people who have quit the game to come back, so that the servers can have a vibrant player population that fuels the objectives of the game in a balanced manner, that factorable group of people will matter. 5-10 people do not matter in the scope of an MMORPG game/server balanced for hundreds - thousands of players...

What does that have to do with being delusional? you retired so please leave and let us play the Lineage that we still very much enjoy with out listening to your constant complaining. thanks.
You have to be delusional to not have seen the player population declining steadily since ~Interlude times.

If you complain enough I'll resubscribe just to troll the forums until they shut down. Good tactic, though. "I don't like what you said, so I'm going to tell you to go away!" Lol...

TL;DR: It doesn't matter, and cry more.
Teon is consistently light, so it's a fact that players are fewer now than there were a month ago. We will be able to draw safer conclusions about the future of the NA/EU servers when the free month ends for the people who try Aion.

In any case, the number of new players who join this game is very low. The game is in decline, although that doesn't mean it will die (e.g. servers turned off) anytime soon.
A game dying has nothing to do with the servers being turned off (e.g. DAoC is dead, and they still run it).

A company will run a game as long as it's financially profitable, but that does not mean it provides a stable and vibrant playing environment for those who play it. Lineage II doesn't provide that atm, unless you only PvE or are at the upper eschelon of the game (i.e. farming a server, etc.).
So are you also going to quit driving your car because the police don't arrest all the speeders and people who roll through stop signs?
RL Analogies always make you look like a troll.

Lineage II is not any means to an obligation (driving to work), Lineage II is a form of entertainment, not transportation. If you don't like how it's going down, you stop giving them your money.

It's not like you only have one internet provider in you area and are forced to pay double what your mom pays an hour away.

Stop with the fail analogies.

TL;DR: You aren't forced/required/obligated to play L2, but you may have no choice but to drive and deal with those people who run stop signs, etc. And seriously, don't you get tired of doing the GMs' jobs for them.

P.S. LOL @ the person talking about how many bots they banned. A little late, eh? The game is known first and foremost in the MMORPG community for it's illegit.
but u see thats the point tren... it will only be left for us pve'ers and im fine with that:) so if u wanna pvp go to aion if u want pve ull stay l2 regarless of all its flaws.

and there is nothing wrong with that.
Sad to see such a great pvp game come to such a terrible end, just because ppl dont want ppl exping in thier spot(back in beta , most ppl pvpd for exp spots). Need merge bad. most ppl i know are quitting. People are in denial if they think everyone will return from Aion to l2. Denial.(I have Aion, only reason i see myself staying in Aion is because its fun playing an mmo that isnt scarce with people, id much rather play l2 but no point if no people) The whole ncstaff is in denial if they dont think the servers dont need a merge, but i think its to a point with them where they basically done modding l2 besides updates every 6 months and could care less if Sayha has less then 700 players that connect weekly.
amazing then quit....


i like it just the way it is
I would like to see the game die to point where there are no more know it alls who overuse the word "fatorable".

I think the game is dying too but like others have said the servers will be up for a long time. Ppl in my clan have been talking about more merge rumours so hopefully that will keep things going for a while longer.
amazing then quit....


i like it just the way it is
sry never would take advice from some1 who lvls 28 toons to lvl 40, and whose forum name defines his personality.
not advice.... i just wonder why ppl do things they hate is all... if u hate l2 the way it is then why play?
Sad to see such a great pvp game come to such a terrible end, just because ppl dont want ppl exping in thier spot(back in beta , most ppl pvpd for exp spots). Need merge bad. most ppl i know are quitting. People are in denial if they think everyone will return from Aion to l2. Denial.(I have Aion, only reason i see myself staying in Aion is because its fun playing an mmo that isnt scarce with people, id much rather play l2 but no point if no people) The whole ncstaff is in denial if they dont think the servers dont need a merge, but i think its to a point with them where they basically done modding l2 besides updates every 6 months and could care less if Sayha has less then 700 players that connect weekly.
do u understand? i dont hate l2, just sad to see how such a populated game becomes a wasteland because of the staffs inability to see server merge as saving aspects of the game such as PVP, server economy, overall server clan growth, player growth. Game losing its best aspects of the game itself.
nope sry.. id play if i was the only one on the server and be happy doing so lol

in fact if i was rich enuf id buy 1500 subscriptions a month just so i could play alone lol


also what do u do once there is only 1 server and stil not enuff ppl for u?

hence why i say this game is going the way of pve'r and is not many ppl....... face it love it play it otherwise play something else.

no point in getting ulcers from something u cant change. No point in being sad. Be happy u can now play something else.:)
well you sir are a sad soul.
im sure every1 joined this game to kill mobs just like u did.....
im not saying they did... im saying u cant change it. Its in the hands of the koreans. If u want something other than what they have given u go play something else.

and actually im a very happy soul:)
Amazing the thing is even if there aren't the massive pvp battles anymore the game still holds a lot. Crafting, OE'ing, Epics, RB's, and all the other stuff. PvP is still somewhat there, I think the problem is you've got a lot of people that aren't botting now. You don't have them botting all night to pvp for a few hours and lose that exp.

I agree there are more carebears but its not hard to spice things up in game. If you want pvp so bad go pvp. Who says they have to be tags? I'm sure you can find someone to fight. One problem I noticed is you get the top allies, who have tons of smaller allies helping them do things. I hate the idea of it, but if there wasn't the ability for castles to be helped by random clans it would really be a lot better. It would make sieges better imho. :p
I agree with the castle thing.

I also think things would be way diff at seiges if it was impossible to sign for dawn unless in a castle alliance, and impossible for castle alliances to sign dusk.
Well i bought the aion too but i quited from it, cuz the game never be same good like than Lineage 2, pvp is boring, grind is boring so game isnt good, now it is the actualy celebrity MMO it has big advertisment so MMO players start try it. One of my friend said who play with wow that situation same there too ppls started quit from wow, this is why blizzard started make fast the new expansion that keep their players in wow's world.

Anyway in aion are a lots of bots how i read NCSoft nowadays start bann them. How i saw the game in Europe the servers's 30-40% sure that goldsellers's farmer bots.

Who want realy big mass pvps in Lineage 2 world the best places for them, Lineage 2's korean, japanese, thai, indonesian or russian region or taiwan in this region Lineage 2 has got very high population so lets go to there.
some people thought the Aion grind would have been as easy as WoW, but it's a bit more difficult (i.e. longer) than that
Players are already level 50 (max) in Aion, took them a bit more than 2 weeks.

A game dying has nothing to do with the servers being turned off
I know, I meant literally dead as in "not available anymore".

Some people will keep playing until the last second of the L2 servers life and for them the game won't be dead until then.

nope sry.. id play if i was the only one on the server and be happy doing so lol
Your idea of L2 as a mmorg is quite rare then. Sure, it's perfectly OK to have that opinion, it's just totally outside most everyone's reality.

PvP is still somewhat there, I think the problem is you've got a lot of people that aren't botting now. You don't have them botting all night to pvp for a few hours and lose that exp.
Oh that could be such a big truth indeed :D
yesterday night i xped party with a friend, we talked on ventrilo a parts of teon players who play from my country are here, and there are some room for another games and some room for lineage 2 free servers. So while i talked with my friend was in our room a person who is a gm on a free server and while i heard that what they talk with eachother i heard that this gm still never played on official Lineage 2 server and not realy know about the game nothing but this person a gm:) so some free server player dont know that Lineage 2 has got official servers in this region.

I think NCSoft have to search these ppls and show them something why is better the Lineage 2 on official servers like than on private servers. The big problem that in Europe at firstly ppls know the Lineage 2 as a free game. I heard last time that their number 15-20 times bigger like than the official players number in this region and play there players who play L2j from much years, so need try lure here these players and than the official servers's players base will long time big and active.

I will try make a normal Lineage 2 website for my country what is target the official Lineage 2 and i plan from this website will aviable all fresh Lineage 2 news from worldwide not just from our region that lets see the peoples this game is a realy popular game and i hope these website will help that our region will be more popular like than now!
yesterday night i xped party with a friend, we talked on ventrilo a parts of teon players who play from my country are here, and there are some room for another games and some room for lineage 2 free servers. So while i talked with my friend was in our room a person who is a gm on a free server and while i heard that what they talk with eachother i heard that this gm still never played on official Lineage 2 server and not realy know about the game nothing but this person a gm:) so some free server player dont know that Lineage 2 has got official servers in this region.

I think NCSoft have to search these ppls and show them something why is better the Lineage 2 on official servers like than on private servers. The big problem that in Europe at firstly ppls know the Lineage 2 as a free game. I heard last time that their number 15-20 times bigger like than the official players number in this region and play there players who play L2j from much years, so need try lure here these players and than the official servers's players base will long time big and active.

I will try make a normal Lineage 2 website for my country what is target the official Lineage 2 and i plan from this website will aviable all fresh Lineage 2 news from worldwide not just from our region that lets see the peoples this game is a realy popular game and i hope these website will help that our region will be more popular like than now!

Actually, NcSoft should look to bring legal recourse to these free servers, get them shut down and put the owners in Jail with a heafty fine. IMHO.

And server merges will not "save" any game. It just means less resources that NcSoft has to manage.

No, the best suggestion so far has been a reduced "server move" event with all of your warehouse in tact and no limits on the toon's move itself. That would stop the nagging from the criers about needed a merge and allow the rest of us who are happy with their servers to keep at it.

For now though, Lin2 is on a back burner as Aion is the hot game for them. Hope our developers have a nice development arc and a few years of updates ahead of them is all.
I never thought this before but the game maybe on lifesupport now.

I think it will merge the L2 servers down to two 1 euro 1 na, put min. staff on the game and no more large updates.

Example it has been over 5 months since Gracia+ has come out in Korea and there isnt even a preview or anything about the next update in Korea. There seems like very little chance that Korea will get another update this year meaning they only received 1 small update this year.

We do not even have our PTS mentioned even though its up in Russia, China and mention in Oceania.

Are we the game L2 forgot? NCSoft I believe is purposely trying to kill off l2, even at gaming event they do not even advertise the existence of l2 even though Lyzria etc go to these events.

There is no advertising and Lyzria can just see Aion is on TV in magazines and all over stores. L2 never received that attention.

The markets are completely dead, no one is buying anything.

And biggest sign l2 is dead all you have to do is look at how cheap the bots are willing to sell adena, its seems its gotten to almost the point they are willing to give it away since there is no demand no more.

I love l2 and hate to see it wither and die from inaction from ncsoft.
Comments are quite useless rly, 90% of ppl use bot, 99% use pvp cheating programs, l2 is almost completely abandoned, besides some guy coming to res the servers and do paid services lol, apparently they want the few legit ppl to start botting or move to Aion :P
Comments are quite useless rly, 90% of ppl use bot, 99% use pvp cheating programs, l2 is almost completely abandoned, besides some guy coming to res the servers and do paid services lol, apparently they want the few legit ppl to start botting or move to Aion :P

lolololol
well you sir are a sad soul.
im sure every1 joined this game to kill mobs just like u did.....

Actually, I did join L2 just for the pve aspect of it. :)

ohh, & I also agree with SlyCutters reply. :)