Gracia Epilogue™ will be arriving on the Official Lineage II Public Test Server on Thursday, October 29th, 2009. New quests, hunting grounds, improved vitality and more await you in this final installment of Gracia. Check out the Gracia Epilogue Preview Site (http://www.lineage2.com/epilogue/) for a sneak peak of what is in store for this update.
You will need to download the official Lineage II Public Test Server client in order to join us on the 29th. The client will be available for download very soon so keep an eye out for announcements on how to get set up to access PTS.
Gracia Epilogue™ will be arriving on the Official Lineage II Public Test Server on Thursday, October 29th, 2009. New quests, hunting grounds, improved vitality and more await you in this final installment of Gracia. Check out the Gracia Epilogue Preview Site (http://www.lineage2.com/epilogue/) for a sneak peak of what is in store for this update.
You will need to download the official Lineage II Public Test Server client in order to join us on the 29th. The client will be available for download very soon so keep an eye out for announcements on how to get set up to access PTS.
from what i understand, they are changing the wolf damage and the pdef of the mob its hits if the mob is more than 2 lvls above ur char. So basically it affects if u use a wolf to hit yellow and above mobs... I think... no confirmation yet but thats the way i understand it
hmm...this is a MMO game and as many say it is a game where you need to team up...yet they turned some great places into solo spots...like dino island :(
I guess I will have to start a nuker if I change my mind about quiting...btw Lyzira did you get my PM? I never got a reply
Poor legits hit hard again... We worked hard for those wolves, well, i think it was time to hit us, since vitality was introduced we didnt really get hit much.
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Its gracia epilogue not Lineage 2 epilogue! its the end of this era and the harbinger of a new one, that will come after that!!
So heads uuuuuuuuuupppppppppppppppp
How many bots use wolves to level ? Have you seen any train actively using wolves more than just follow ? Only ppl using wolves to level are the legit players, those that worked hard for their wolf to raise their alts or do raids etc. Bots dont need that, they have their train which is rarely possible to make with legits as not all ppl can be on at a certain time, cant control 3+ chars, so wolf was needed as DD. We could make buffers+healers and use wolf as DD. Looks like that will be at least made more difficult.
As for quitting, no, I will only quit when there will be added the new 90 level cap making absolutely impossible for legits in any number to resist to a single hero level 90 with his train of healers and nukers. Right now, it is not absolutely impossible to reach level 80, and a well organized band of S graders (76-80) can still put bots in trouble exploiting their train AI weaknesses, but if the train is level 90 it will be just impossible.
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Thank you very much for the preview information. However, somehow when I was looking at the information about solo spots for archers, mages, mellees and summonors I must have missed the solo spots for healer/buffer classes. Could you check and make sure the link is in to those spots?
hmm...this is a MMO game and as many say it is a game where you need to team up...yet they turned some great places into solo spots...like dino island :(
Only a small (western) part of the island is made the solo exp place for nukers. The rest is still for groups.
Now we just need the L2 site to look as good as the preview site :)
no please not a flash site :o but more up to date would be nice :) but i'm hoping the site updates for skills, armors, weaps, recipes etc. will be updated for Gracia Epilogue :rolleyes:
wujuuuuuuuuu new pet on dyno island xD and new quest on seveng sing new rift and mmmm zones drops and dynasty more easy to make xD vitality 400% ? xD nice nice nice xD
Give the Patch notes to the people!!! :P :P :P
At least give us somethink to think and dream about until the pts comes up!
Plz hurry on patch notes and post them here if possible even before the preview site!!!
That would be really good so i can keep dreaming! :P
How many bots use wolves to level ? Have you seen any train actively using wolves more than just follow ? Only ppl using wolves to level are the legit players, those that worked hard for their wolf to raise their alts or do raids etc. Bots dont need that, they have their train which is rarely possible to make with legits as not all ppl can be on at a certain time, cant control 3+ chars, so wolf was needed as DD. We could make buffers+healers and use wolf as DD. Looks like that will be at least made more difficult.
As for quitting, no, I will only quit when there will be added the new 90 level cap making absolutely impossible for legits in any number to resist to a single hero level 90 with his train of healers and nukers. Right now, it is not absolutely impossible to reach level 80, and a well organized band of S graders (76-80) can still put bots in trouble exploiting their train AI weaknesses, but if the train is level 90 it will be just impossible.
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Kudos to you, great post. Also, the new hunting areas look great, I'm glad someone had the creative mind to bring new life into some of the gorgeous/forgotten lowbie zones. Looking forward to trying them all! :)
Can we get a Windows 7 fix before the Update? Maybe even PTS? Heck, even before the Patch Notes? :mad:
From what I know they say they support all windows versions which are supported by MS. Therefore, with official W7 launch support should be there already, no ?
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U have got very intresting posts. This game isnt released half years ago, this game has released in 2004 first half and made for hardcore gamers (hardcore asian gamers at firstly) so i think who is play more than 3 years with this game and legit player too have to be between 79-82 with 1 or more 75+ sub class. Lets see my friends in Asia be legit players who are lvl 85 or very close to it and there are more much the players like than in this regions. I know that in our servers at firstly the bot players can use up the new areas, and yes for this bots have to give bann. So i say if a day will the maximum level is level 100 i will do it too!
Anyway i think you dont need cry about the heroes who are cheaters much of them got bann atleast on teon sure (Olzag, MissCarnage, steek, fakkoks) and more much players who was anytime hero but at this time not when they got bann.
Thank you very much for the preview information. However, somehow when I was looking at the information about solo spots for archers, mages, mellees and summonors I must have missed the solo spots for healer/buffer classes. Could you check and make sure the link is in to those spots?
Thanks
how do you imagine solo spots for healers/buffers??
hmm I've got an idea.
maybe for solo buffers/healers, they should add special NPCs that kill mobs for you and you can party with them and heal/buff them for better DPS.
From what I know they say they support all windows versions which are supported by MS. Therefore, with official W7 launch support should be there already, no ?
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No, you are at least forced to manually replace GG file and start game with renamed L2.bin library.
Uhh, my favourite low lvl locations are gone. :S (Mithril mines, Giant's cave and Field of Silence.) I hope I can get lvl 80 and can farm in that regions again. W8 the patch notes...
Great :) At last the new update is coming. Let's see how they are going to hurt the Necro class again.
I bet they have done something about it.
I am sad :(!!!!!!!!!!!! My chars birthday is this week. One week before the PTS and 2-3 weeks before the new update :( I will miss the great exp on the new areas :(
yeah wolves need to be nerfed thats for sure just wrong that my se sub with a tiny 60 wolf can hold the large room in cruma lvl 2 solo
every summoner would pick a wolf before his own summon pre 79
s80 mats drops so u will see all those hided cata trains on the surface pretty cool imho they should leave the cap on 85 who cares nearly 97% who reached that lvl cheated anyway so why care for them ?
xmas event idea check all hero toons on all server man i guess with all those banned goods u could buy a nice house in rl
and the hypocrism on this boards is really annoying if anyone who is lieing here would get stuck by a lightninig there wouldnt be much ppl left on these boards
majority of this community supports cheating in every way and that wont change with an update its just sad that it has nearly zero consequences in this game
top archmage hero on saysha botting since c2 whole erica knew it and he is still there so disgusting
well i thought it was something really scary like a 50% nerf on p.attack. The wolf is not being nerfed alone, we all will be nerfed after 78 if we fight yelow mobs and upper.
No it's not. you did the work to level it and it's many way 2 power level. they already did the 20+ level fix that's enough. if anything make it so you have 2 be within 10 levels to control a wolf higher then you....
Great :) At last the new update is coming. Let's see how they are going to hurt the Necro class again.
I bet they have done something about it.
I am sad :(!!!!!!!!!!!! My chars birthday is this week. One week before the PTS and 2-3 weeks before the new update :( I will miss the great exp on the new areas :(
Just don't play that toon until g+ goes live.
well i thought it was something really scary like a 50% nerf on p.attack. The wolf is not being nerfed alone, we all will be nerfed after 78 if we fight yelow mobs and upper.
The same goes for many of the old mobs in their 80s. Don't worry, the level difference nerf is just to keep the lowbies out of the high-level hunting grounds :p
So now no more lvling at fields of silence and whispers on D grade toon's? That's a update and not a new hunting spot and now same goes for crypt's of disgrace. What was all that for?
Why not stick stuff for the 80+ crowd over on thier Gracia continent where it should be and leaving the D grader hunting spots alone? Ohh well I hope they left Garden of Eva alone.
Did they just turn Innadril into a spot for only 80+? Seems that way since now you can't run from Giran to Heine cuz of this update.
In the Korean original it says "renewed" and not "new" hunting spots :p
The Garden of Eva has been left as it is, while the Lienriks and Tasaba Lizardmen have been moved over to the beach opposite Alligator Island. So the quests for the birthday Echo Crystals, Black Swan etc. can still be done.
So now no more lvling at fields of silence and whispers on D grade toon's? That's a update and not a new hunting spot and now same goes for crypt's of disgrace. What was all that for?
Why not stick stuff for the 80+ crowd over on thier Gracia continent where it should be and leaving the D grader hunting spots alone? Ohh well I hope they left Garden of Eva alone.
Did they just turn Innadril into a spot for only 80+? Seems that way since now you can't run from Giran to Heine cuz of this update.
Ff course they need to renew spots, whats the point in have 10 empty lvl 40 spots? you can do all the way to 40 in better spots then the ones being renewed.
Heine is a desert, same for most places in shuttgart, gludin, giran, and gludio. All these spots could be turned into good 6x 7x 8x areas.
The same goes for many of the old mobs in their 80s. Don't worry, the level difference nerf is just to keep the lowbies out of the high-level hunting grounds :p
Phew. So does this rule apply vise versa and mobs don't hit you as hard if you are a certain number of lvls above them?
hmm...this is a MMO game and as many say it is a game where you need to team up...yet they turned some great places into solo spots...like dino island :(
Whoa, you mean you grouped out in Dino Island? The only time I ever saw anyone out there was when we still had to do that quest for books. I always thought it was such a shame that place was so detailed and beautiful, to have it set up in such a way that no one willingly went there.
Whoa, you mean you grouped out in Dino Island? The only time I ever saw anyone out there was when we still had to do that quest for books. I always thought it was such a shame that place was so detailed and beautiful, to have it set up in such a way that no one willingly went there.
Yes I did group there. Great spot to get sigil parts, S80 mats and level soul crystals on the T-rex + as you said it's an extremely beautiful place.
I prefer to grind there and get little less exp than to grind in some dark dungeon or closed room (IT, MoS, FoG, Pagan...no HB since i'm 77)
I think those are just a legend, but if you ever see one you better be prepared to smash it. Or hide on the table from it, I hear that works too.
Lol, why does every update turn into a debate about botting and if it's possible to lvl without it? Silly imo, I'm a dwarf, and 80+ w/o botting. Ofc, my class is indisputably overpowered, especially with my VR-less buffpet helping.
Update looks great imo, finally places I high lvls can solo (duo technically with buffpet added) and have mobs be not blue ^^ Can't wait to see if the aoe area can be uber aoed well or if it's like others with the awful snapback effects.
It is really as I wrote before, the purpose of the level difference nerf is not sadism but to keep lower players out of the hunting grounds for high level players. The number of monsters, especially at the Crypts of Disgrace, is limited, and since there are (in Korea) a lot of 82~85 players, those will be first served.
And there is also the educational aspect: young people must get accustomed to walk on the prescribed path, leveling in 0.0001% increments by killing monsters of their own level. Shortcuts are antisocial :p
It is really as I wrote before, the purpose of the level difference nerf is not sadism but to keep lower players out of the hunting grounds for high level players. The number of monsters, especially at the Crypts of Disgrace, is limited, and since there are (in Korea) a lot of 82~85 players, those will be first served.
And there is also the educational aspect: young people must get accustomed to walk on the prescribed path, leveling in 0.0001% increments by killing monsters of their own level. Shortcuts are antisocial :p
And there is also the educational aspect: young people must get accustomed to walk on the prescribed path, leveling in 0.0001% increments by killing monsters of their own level. Shortcuts are antisocial :p
Except for healers/BDs :p
Field of Silence and Field of Whispers
An open hunting ground suited for lvl 82+ nukers to solo.
This is now the highest level hunting ground for nukers, similar to Island Of Prayer. Hunting swamp creatures from a primeval age will provide you with tingling excitement and make you much stronger in the process.
Giants' Caves
A dungeon-type hunting ground suited for lvl 80+ melee groups
To the Giants' Caves of old a system of interlinked raids has been added that is now waiting for melee damage dealers.
Primeval Isle
An open, field-type hunting ground suited especially for lvl 83+ nukers, preferably in parties with 4 or more members.
The place has been changed so that hunting becomes more convenient - Greater Herbs will drop to facilitate MP management and the respawn time of the saurians has been significantl y shortened.
Stakato Nest
A dungeon-type hunting ground suited for all classes, especially for parties of 4 or more players of lvl 82 and above.
Kill the Raid Boss in the Stakato Nest! The abilities of players taking on the Boss will increase! Apart from that a new system of raids on Excellent Bosses has been added.
Crypts of Disgrace
An open, field-type hunting ground suited for lvl 80+ pole arm parties. Polers unite and experience once again the feeling of all-pervading destiny at this place.
Den of Evil and Caron's Dungeon
An open, field-type hunting ground suited for lvl 81+ melee solo. A hunting ground for damage dealers who like their enemies up close and rely only on themselves. Enjoy now the pleasure of solo raids!
Forge of the Gods
An dungeon-type hunting ground suited for nuker groups of lvl 78 and upwards. Through a changed respawn system the hunting in this place has been improved.
Mithril Mines
A dungeon-type hunting ground suited for lvl 81+ archers to solo. This is now the highest level hunting ground for solo archers, for all those who have outgrown the Blazing Swamp. Three new quests are awaiting you there!
Dimensional Rift
An instanced dungeon for lvl 80+ characters of all classes that can only be done in parties with 4 or more mebers.
This is a Rift hunting ground of really high level. And you can challenge there Ajna, one of the most difficult opponents.
SYSTEM UPDATE
Mailing service
Now you can send items to your friends through this mailing system.
There are 2 types of mails you can send.
1. Sends mail along with items, receiver can click it to open.
2. Sends mail along with items with desired price, receiver has to pay that amount in order to get them
Vitality
Changes in effectivenes s of vitality. When class lv is 76 or higher, it will consume less vitality by large amount. Overall, vitality will last longer than before.
Territory Siege
There will be more rewards available with siege tokens.
Book of Giants - grey, green and red books
Talisman - buff cancel, buff steal, cp boost+cp restore, less pvp dmg received, all resistance(resist increase for all element)
Pvp potion - hp, mp, cp
Belt - Rune clip belt (faster hp and mp regeneration), magic belt (pvp stat increase)
Strider - Stronger pdef than current strider and has special skill.
HUNTING GROUNDS
(see DetailedInfo rmation by clicking here)
Stakato Nest - LVL 82+ / 4man +
Field of Silence - LVL 83+ / nuker
Forge of Gods - LVL 78+ / nuker party
Primitive Island - LVL 83+ / 4man +
Mithrill Mines - LVL 81+ / Archer
Giants Cave - LVL 80+ / melee party
Dimensional Rift - LVL 80+ / 4man +
Changes to Zaken Raid
In order for more variety of players have chance to raid, it changed to instant zone type. Can choose to do day/night raid.
day - 9~27 man party.
night - 72+ man party
Instruction - When you enter, you have to turn the light on the candle in the small room then you will get info about location of zaken. The later you find Zaken, the harder the raid will become, and the faster you clear the raid, the better reward.
Time limit - 60 minutes for day raid, 360 minutes for night raid.
Other changes
- you can teleport in front of zaken room using NPC in Giran.
- Minions will return to original location when it goes off certain distance.
- Changes in the reward from raid.
CLASS UPDATE
New enchant routes for following skills.
Song of Champion - time/cost
Song of Windstorm - time/cost
Dance of bladestorm - time/cost
Fear - chance/cost
Soul Guard - Power
Bless the blood - power
Backstab/deadly blow/double shot - duel
New Vanguard skills
Boost mortal - for 2 minutes, when sword/blunt/dual sword is used, accuracy 8, critical rate 150, critical dmg 30% is increased.
Gilotin attack -Attack skill when using 2 handed sword and blunt.
Triple blade slash - Dual sword attack skill.
Skill link
Any healer class (Cardinal, Eva's Saint, Sillen Saint) that is above 76 with thurd class can learn 2 (4 for SE) skills from other healer type.
Skill can be learned from grand master and skill master. In order to learn 1 skill, you need 1 formander (new item).
This item can be obtained upon completion of 3rd class quest, but those who has already finished quest, can find it in their inventory.
Current Skill changes
When transforming into vanguard, decrese in defence effect have been removed.
Skill mastery is applied to following skills
triple slash / fatal stike / earth quake / spinning slasher / hammer crush / spoil crush / Thunder Storm / Burning fist / Shock Blast / Punch of doom / soul breaker / armor crush / sonic storm / force blaster / demon blade dance / burning chop / sonic buster / full swing / force buster / blade hurricane / double sonic slash / force storm / triple sonic slash / hurricane assault / force of destruction.
MP consumption increased for following skills.
Focus mind / vital force / esprit
Skill power increased for following skills.
Blade hurricane / full swing / power divide / double attack.
Frenzy - polearm dmg increase is removed.
Restore life cannot be used on enemy.
Burning chop can be learned to higher lvl ( 72 and 74)
Elder can learn major heal to lv 11.
ITEM UPDATE
Cloak that were distinguishe d to different armor type(robe/heavy/light) will all be combined to 1 type.
New belt + option
A/S grade - magic rune belt
HP regen - HP regeneration increased, when sitting regenerate at higher rate.
MP regen - MP regeneration increased, when sitting, regenrate at higher rate.
A/S grade - magic decoration belt.
PvP melee - normal hit increase during pvp
pvp skill - skill dmg increase during pvp
pvp defence - reduces dmg of normal hit and skill dmg received.
Other changes
Bow option "Cheap shot" will be applied to magic skills as well.
When changing weapon while it is in motion of hitting, it will change weapon after it is finished hitting once.
Changes in UI for shield and armor.
Casting speed reduced for following talisman skills. hp/cp recovery / bandage / melee escape / magic escape / escape / melee silence / magic silence / silcence
Changes in icon image for items that looks similar.
OTHER UPDATE
Item buy back - When you sold the item to the shop accidentally, you can retrive it back up to 12 items.
New pet
Teinonikus - can be obtained at Dino Island
New Strider - can be obtained from Territory NPC with badges.
When you log into the game in the middle of hunting ground, you will not pull agro from aggressive monsters for 10 minutes. But when other action is taken, monsters will become aggressive.:)
Any healer class (Cardinal, Eva's Saint, Sillen Saint) that is above 76 with thurd class can learn 2 (4 for SE) skills from other healer type.
Everything seems to be true in that you translated else this, it's 1 skill link for BP/EE, and 4 for SE. It has been changed few weeks after this patch note :)
I think those are just a legend, but if you ever see one you better be prepared to smash it. Or hide on the table from it, I hear that works too.
Lol, why does every update turn into a debate about botting and if it's possible to lvl without it? Silly imo, I'm a dwarf, and 80+ w/o botting. Ofc, my class is indisputably overpowered, especially with my VR-less buffpet helping.
Update looks great imo, finally places I high lvls can solo (duo technically with buffpet added) and have mobs be not blue ^^ Can't wait to see if the aoe area can be uber aoed well or if it's like others with the awful snapback effects.
The inability to kill yellow mobs is a huge nerf.
Live ppl with party always have level difference between party members. In 99 % of the cases. Only bots level all same and kill green/blue mobs.
I really hope that "feature" wont make it here. In Korea perhaps there are higher level players, there are different conditions, here if that is applied parties and especially large ones will be killed unless bot parties.
We are going to kill deep red mobs in LoA or rift with full party, with tank, healer, buffer, bd, wolves etc. It is true that you need to be at the computer, pay attention to all disconnects, crits, buffs, dances, etc, needs brain and adjusting to the particular party composition, but it is perfectly fine, servers are not overcrowded, we dont go to kill the mobs of s80+ botters, almost all of them go HB actually, so this is not needed in order to protect them ! I haven't seen a normal, not to mention heavy server for many months now ! Please dont hit us ! The few remaining legits are begging you to take out that nerf ! If you need to make higher level mobs more difficult, make them for everybody, add more hp, more power, etc, make them more difficult for everybody, not just for legits !
Or allow it only after all bots were banned.
M
The inability to kill yellow mobs is a huge nerf.
Live ppl with party always have level difference between party members. In 99 % of the cases. Only bots level all same and kill green/blue mobs.
I really hope that "feature" wont make it here. In Korea perhaps there are higher level players, there are different conditions, here if that is applied parties and especially large ones will be killed unless bot parties.
We are going to kill deep red mobs in LoA or rift with full party, with tank, healer, buffer, bd, wolves etc. It is true that you need to be at the computer, pay attention to all disconnects, crits, buffs, dances, etc, needs brain and adjusting to the particular party composition, but it is perfectly fine, servers are not overcrowded, we dont go to kill the mobs of s80+ botters, almost all of them go HB actually, so this is not needed in order to protect them ! I haven't seen a normal, not to mention heavy server for many months now ! Please dont hit us ! The few remaining legits are begging you to take out that nerf !
Or allow it only after all bots were banned.
M
If what I read here is true then I gues it's yet another re-roll for me then...specialy since nukers will have great solo hunting spots at higher levels.
much more melee spots than mage spots but if what i read is true then i'll still be stuck poling blue mobs at FOG ><
That is throwing vita out of the window, waivering our only real advantage over bots.
If that was made to avoid ppl going out of their level designated areas, then, by all means, nerf the players which kill mobe BELOW their level, like blue or deep blue, make those mobs curse or something like in raid, it is those players that are taking LOTS of mobs for little gain, those are hogging on the little resources (again, i dispute this thing in NA servers, we have plenty of mobs, players we lack) if that was the reason for this nerf in the first place, not us ! Please, at least consider this !
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the problem is at 82 all mobs in game are blue except HB and IOP and since IOP is about 20x less xp than i get at FOG killing blue mobs and getting a constant HB group on a dorf is about as likely as soloing a party on a PP then yes i do think we need new areas and if i show up at said new area only to find it packed with low 7x destros (which have more killing power than a 85 dorf) then yes i'll be ******
... if that was the reason for this nerf in the first place, not us ! Please, at least consider this !
In Korea the level difference nerf was first not there in Gracia Epilogue, then it was introduced, then it was removed again, then it was re-introduced. It seems that technically it would be no major problem to add or remove this feature from the game. Maybe we should give it a few months on the live servers, see how it works out, and then make a poll.
In Korea the level difference nerf was first not there in Gracia Epilogue, then it was introduced, then it was removed again, then it was re-introduced. It seems that technically it would be no major problem to add or remove this feature from the game. Maybe we should give it a few months on the live servers, see how it works out, and then make a poll.
I am against this nerf, but I agree that this would be a good idea.. Maybe they will listen to you :) And then listen to us :)
It may be easy in Korea where programmers reside, but not so easy here where almost all comes prefabricated from Korea. Even so, I say we do the other way, leave a few weeks to see if the "invasion" of "lowbies" in higher level hunting grounds is such that REQUIRES that nerf, and if it does, make it apply at pink mobs first, if that is still a problem, only then apply the yellow mob nerf. And only apply the nerf starting at level 70, for instance, in lower levels there sure is no need, hunting places are almost empty, besides with new buffs and over enchanted low level weapons etc, it is more often than not to see live players killing deep red mobs to faster the leveling, in levels where there is lot of boredom otherwise. Dont take the fun from living on the edge at low levels when you dont risk much but want to have a thrill with 100 HP many times over an hour.
I bet 100 to 1 we wont need any nerf at all. Bots pack the lower level mobs even if the mobs are blue, unless they have full 9 bots train, and, as you know, the bot population in our servers (at least in Franz), is rapidly declining, so those areas wont need protection.
If they do, add the nerf, simple.
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The levels recommended on the Japanese preview site are at the precise lower limit where you get no nerf effect. For example the monsters on the Primeval Plains are lvl 80: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EC%9B%90%EC%8B%9C%EC%9D%98+%ED%8F%89%EC%95%BC
The Japanese recommending lvl 78 for Nukers is OK, NCWest recommending lvl 83 is really on the safe side.
The levels recommended on the Japanese preview site are at the precise lower limit where you get no nerf effect. For example the monsters on the Primeval Plains are lvl 80: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EC%9B%90%EC%8B%9C%EC%9D%98+%ED%8F%89%EC%95%BC
The Japanese recommending lvl 78 for Nukers is OK, NCWest recommending lvl 83 is really on the safe side.
Oh, almost ok then. Also for wolves if you are level 78 only your wolf will start to get penalty ? Thanks for the info !
M
(At any rate, trying to protect 83+ programs is not ok, even if they need it or not, and I am sure they wont need protection as the players are very few in our servers.)
Also for wolves if you are level 78 only your wolf will start to get penalty ?
The colloquial expression "nerf" is a bit misleading. It is really a damage penalty, not more and not less.
The developers are not trying to punish you personally, you do not get reduced exp or something like that when your Wolf (physical attacks) is 2 or more levels below the monster it attacks. If you are lvl 78, attacking a lvl 79 monster, you yourself feel no effect at all, and if your Wolf is lvl 77 (i.e. below the level when the nerf kicks in) it also delivers the regular damage.
If you are lvl 80, trying to attack a lvl 84 Megacrokian on the Field of Whispers, you will deliver less damage then you would on a lvl 81 monster of the same M.Def. If your Wolf in that example is lvl 82, i.e. 2 levels below the Megacrokian, you will also notice a reduction in the damage it does. That damage reduction is calculated separately and independently from your damage reduction. You do a lot less damage with your nukes (in Taiwan there was somebody who tried exactly that and needed 10 instead of 6~7 shots) and your Wolf does a bit less damage with its bites. Since the reductions are adding up, this means that the Field of Whispers is de facto not doable for you.
The colloquial expression "nerf" is a bit misleading. It is really a damage penalty, not more and not less.
The developers are not trying to punish you personally, you do not get reduced exp or something like that when your Wolf (physical attacks) is 2 or more levels below the monster it attacks. If you are lvl 78, attacking a lvl 79 monster, you yourself feel no effect at all, and if your Wolf is lvl 77 (i.e. below the level when the nerf kicks in) it also delivers the regular damage.
If you are lvl 80, trying to attack a lvl 84 Megacrokian on the Field of Whispers, you will deliver less damage then you would on a lvl 81 monster of the same M.Def. If your Wolf in that example is lvl 82, i.e. 2 levels below the Megacrokian, you will also notice a reduction in the damage it does. That damage reduction is calculated separately and independently from your damage reduction. You do a lot less damage with your nukes (in Taiwan there was somebody who tried exactly that and needed 10 instead of 6~7 shots) and your Wolf does a bit less damage with its bites. Since the reductions are adding up, this means that the Field of Whispers is de facto not doable for you.
So, to clarify things further I will give a few examples.
As you say it applies to players once they are level 78. This means that if I am not yet level 78 and I hit a level 84 which will be pink for me I will get no penalty ? Same about my level 77 wolf ? In other words, level 77 ppl will still be able to hunt in level 80+ places without penalty but level 78 wont make it there ?
Thank you a lot !
M
its really ed up that korean summoners get lvl 2 light shoulder pads and there no ing set for summoners in NA that has light pads but yet ncsoft lists it in there library bunch of jerks
... As you say it applies to players once they are level 78. This means that if I am not yet level 78 and I hit a level 84 which will be pink for me I will get no penalty ? Same about my level 77 wolf ? In other words, level 77 ppl will still be able to hunt in level 80+ places without penalty but level 78 wont make it there ?
Exactly. But as Smittie has pointed out, don't underestimate the 80+ monsters. Apart from the Delusion Chamber (http://www2.elliebelly.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=906), where you can only teleport in when you are lvl 80, all the reworked hunting grounds are "open to the public". There is nothing to prevent a lvl 77 character from walking into the lower level of the Giants' Caves and take on a lvl 81 Lesser Giant Soldier who gives 340,299 exp at Vitality 0. But first you might want to read what Altimis and Prang wrote here on Oct. 3: http://www2.elliebelly.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=926&start=30
And those are both 80+ players.
I have no doubt they will be hard mobs, I mean full party with everything, or a bunch of nukers, in nukers areas, we will see how to setup parties, we always found a way, we wont kill pink mobs, perhaps, but certainly at least some 3-4 levels above, because, unless all mobs are same level in that place, sooner or later will aggro one which is higher than the average.
Level 84 was just an example, wont really try level 77 to hit 84, 77 or below will be support, ppl that manage wolves, like summoners and something, etc.
It can be evaded, I mean, it is not a catastrophy, but ppl, IT IS NOT NEEDED in our conditions. Absolutely no need to do this in NA/EU servers. Protect hunting grounds from intruders when 75% of the fields will be empty ? Come on ! Please do this only if it is needed, let PvE have some thrill for live ppl.
M
The inability to kill yellow mobs is a huge nerf.
Live ppl with party always have level difference between party members. In 99 % of the cases. Only bots level all same and kill green/blue mobs.
I really hope that "feature" wont make it here. In Korea perhaps there are higher level players, there are different conditions, here if that is applied parties and especially large ones will be killed unless bot parties.
We are going to kill deep red mobs in LoA or rift with full party, with tank, healer, buffer, bd, wolves etc. It is true that you need to be at the computer, pay attention to all disconnects, crits, buffs, dances, etc, needs brain and adjusting to the particular party composition, but it is perfectly fine, servers are not overcrowded, we dont go to kill the mobs of s80+ botters, almost all of them go HB actually, so this is not needed in order to protect them ! I haven't seen a normal, not to mention heavy server for many months now ! Please dont hit us ! The few remaining legits are begging you to take out that nerf ! If you need to make higher level mobs more difficult, make them for everybody, add more hp, more power, etc, make them more difficult for everybody, not just for legits !
Or allow it only after all bots were banned.
M
i absolutely agree with this post ^
realy i cant understand why would ncsoft make things harder for the few legit ppl that play in this game ..
if the company wants to help bot .. then dont say boting is not alowed .. tell us to leave this game so only bots play it!
we cant realy fight bots in pvp .. is it right to u ppl to not let us exp eather?
whats the point for us to pay to play a game that we cant realy do anything?
why not leave and play a free private server (it will be closed some day?) it will be like *7 rate and all things r tooo easy in some weeks we will be higher than what we r now here that we play for so long .. anyway there will be no exp for us anymore , right? :mad:
i absolutely agree with this post ^
realy i cant understand why would ncsoft make things harder for the few legit ppl that play in this game ..
if the company wants to help bot .. then dont say boting is not alowed .. tell us to leave this game so only bots play it!
we cant realy fight bots in pvp .. is it right to u ppl to not let us exp eather?
whats the point for us to pay to play a game that we cant realy do anything?
why not leave and play a free private server (it will be closed some day?) it will be like *7 rate and all things r tooo easy in some weeks we will be higher than what we r now here that we play for so long .. anyway there will be no exp for us anymore , right? :mad:
Well, in Korea this has been applied to PvP also, but ppl complained and it was removed from there. So they do listen from time to time, however, I think we should add our voice to the koreans to completely eliminate this because in our servers is not needed at all. New 80+ areas wont be overcrowded, our servers are empty, legits can hold fort and even castle once every few months, so the bot population is really decreasing, they wont have competition in those new areas, there is absolutely no need for this.
M
Why nc doesnt do the opposite of the thing?:confused:
e.g the biggest diferrence u lower from someone the less damage u recieve.
Then u can fight s84+ ppls fair enough,...that could be some justice in game pvp...
Agreed, this nerf is going to be the worse thing NCSoft ever thought about... For example, we used to have a motivation to hit lvl78 to finally have fun in HB and now u need to be lvl81+ wtf. Many players are 78-79 on their main cuz 80 is kinda hard. Those will QQ a lot I think.
According to me, the new zones should be new cool and hard areas (means auto play = death) to lvl with lvl79~80 to help us with the lvl difference with bots. So with this nerf, those areas are like ONLY for them :/ If they actually apply it, we will have to think again about our dps before going out of town :s
... we used to have a motivation to hit lvl78 to finally have fun in HB and now u need to be lvl81+ ...
All monsters on Hellbound up until the Iron Castle gate have been lowered to lvl 81 (in the Steel Citadel lvl 83). So you can have fun on Hellbound from lvl 80 on (Nukers from lvl 79).
All monsters on Hellbound up until the Iron Castle gate have been lowered to lvl 81 (in the Steel Citadel lvl 83). So you can have fun on Hellbound from lvl 80 on (Nukers from lvl 79).
Info provided by Animus from www2.elliebelly.net
This is very good news then ^^ I guess u made my day.
also, PLEASE people, stop crying "omg it is the worst nerf ever!!" before you have even experienced the effect
wait for PTS (this week^^), try fighting some mobs with no penalty (no, not 1 or 2 mobs...stay there for several buffrounds), try fighting a little bit higher mobs with the penalty (no, not 1 or 2 mobs...stay there for several buffrounds), THEN decide how bad it is
also, PLEASE people, stop crying "omg it is the worst nerf ever!!" before you have even experienced the effect
wait for PTS (this week^^), try fighting some mobs with no penalty (no, not 1 or 2 mobs...stay there for several buffrounds), try fighting a little bit higher mobs with the penalty (no, not 1 or 2 mobs...stay there for several buffrounds), THEN decide how bad it is
This is irrelevant. Why apply this nerf here when servers are empty ? For every action should be a reason, in our case there is no justification. Those fields will be underused anyway, even without nerf on.
So till I hear a valid argument for the nerf, I wont discuss if it affects us bad or notsobad.
M
You crybabies do realize the at the Epic 7 signs quest is meant to boost you from 79 to 80!?!?!?
OMG I play 2 hours a day, and I can't beat someone who plays 12 hours a day!!!! :"''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''(
actually it's 30%, not exactly boost to 80.
also if you are not a melee dd class then you will probably lose more % than you gain unless you rez yourself using blessed rez scrolls while trying to complete the hardest parts of the arc.
also, PLEASE people, stop crying "omg it is the worst nerf ever!!" before you have even experienced the effect
wait for PTS (this week^^), try fighting some mobs with no penalty (no, not 1 or 2 mobs...stay there for several buffrounds), try fighting a little bit higher mobs with the penalty (no, not 1 or 2 mobs...stay there for several buffrounds), THEN decide how bad it is
With the time i have learn every ncsoft update give more advantages to bots :)
With the time i have learn every ncsoft update give more advantages to bots :)
Now, now, lets not go too far. They WILL increase vita duration. Vita is the best thing we have facing the bots. It will be enhanced. For that i can live with this nerf, but it is not necessary, that is why I dont want it here.
M
What I really hope is that max lvl won't be increased soon, it would be better to increase sub max lvl. Maybe old players on old servers can be lvl 84-85, even if I still doubt that a real player can have 85 on main and 80 on all subs, but surely, if you rerolled 2 years ago to start luna, if you are lvl 85 you use programs. ...or you just really need a woman XD
Btw I'd like to read about a new way to detect bots or to prevent programs to work instead of new boosts for those poor programs, which find their spots stolen by the evil legit players....
also, PLEASE people, stop crying "omg it is the worst nerf ever!!" before you have even experienced the effect
wait for PTS (this week^^), try fighting some mobs with no penalty (no, not 1 or 2 mobs...stay there for several buffrounds), try fighting a little bit higher mobs with the penalty (no, not 1 or 2 mobs...stay there for several buffrounds), THEN decide how bad it is
This is irrelevant.
Actually, it is highly relevant. If the nerf is not very noticeable then all your 'pre-QQ' is about (almost) nothing.
Why apply this nerf here when servers are empty ?
1)'Empty' is a relative and subjective term, and depends on which server you are playing on.
2)Because, in case you haven't noticed, game-mechanics decisions and changes come from *Korea*, period.
For every action should be a reason, in our case there is no justification.
ROFL, wake up please. The world, including video-games, is not perfect nor will it ever be.
So till I hear a valid argument for the nerf, I wont discuss if it affects us bad or notsobad.
Ok, no problem. Turn off your brain, cover your ears and sing "lalala i can't hear you!" if you wish ;)
why? to sink deep in the mud with them and become a trash like they are?
I prefer to level 100 times slower than bots and be legit, that way I can be proud of actually have leveled my character to the current level instead of turning on the computer and come back after few months to find a max leveled character...I got other games like Batman: Arkham asylum and Tomb Raider: Underworld for that
so don't manner what you do it will always give Bots Advantage.
That's like saying every update to a race track gives an advantage to the Bots (Ferrari) over the real Players (Ford Focus).
No it don't it's a FERRARI it will always have an Advantage or a FOCUS! no manner what you do!. :rolleyes:
I mean last update have gave bot their aoe one shoot skill, so now bot dont need to kill legit one per one, only use their aoe one shot to wipe out a group of legit player in pvp :)
What I really hope is that max lvl won't be increased soon, it would be better to increase sub max lvl. Maybe old players on old servers can be lvl 84-85, even if I still doubt that a real player can have 85 on main and 80 on all subs, but surely, if you rerolled 2 years ago to start luna, if you are lvl 85 you use programs. ...or you just really need a woman XD
Btw I'd like to read about a new way to detect bots or to prevent programs to work instead of new boosts for those poor programs, which find their spots stolen by the evil legit players....
Obviously never seen Tullys pole parties... people get 2% an hour at 85 there....
I'd love for you to show me a bot that can do that xp/hour.
I mean last update have gave bot their aoe one shoot skill, so now bot dont need to kill legit one per one, only use their aoe one shot to wipe out a group of legit player in pvp :)
Well, eversince I play this game (4 years now in off), i knew there wont be a chance for legits in PvP, that is why we only go sieges and TW for fame and badges, PvP is forbidden in my clan as an incentive to bot. Being killed over and over by someone 7 levels higher with a nuker train after it makes you want to "level the playing field" by doing as bots do.
So, sadly, PvP will only open to legits after the bots will be banned, untill then we can only hope bots will be busy at some other siege, or be afk on autorez or something with one way war in order to score some points. This game is PvP, but only bots can really enjoy that part when they log in partially manually once every 2 weeks.
M
Actually, it is highly relevant. If the nerf is not very noticeable then all your 'pre-QQ' is about (almost) nothing.
1)'Empty' is a relative and subjective term, and depends on which server you are playing on.
2)Because, in case you haven't noticed, game-mechanics decisions and changes come from *Korea*, period.
ROFL, wake up please. The world, including video-games, is not perfect nor will it ever be.
Ok, no problem. Turn off your brain, cover your ears and sing "lalala i can't hear you!" if you wish ;)
The nerf is noticeable, that i know.
I play in Franz which is in the upper half regarding population.
Actually territories have a serious window of opportunities on how to change and tune stuff. NA servers are different from those in Russia and Korea.
Nobody said the world is perfect nor it should be, but there can be improvements, which wont happen if everybody says it is like this because world is bad and I can't do anything bout it. Monkeys went on the way to become humans because were not happy as monkeys. Looks like some ppl like the things the way they are, no doubt, some recessive atavic genes that show up from time to time.
I heard your opinion, now go watch your bots. There have been some banned lately, you dont want all your "work" to go to waste.
M
Guys dont complain so badly about pvp,....:(
Maybe we should first w8 and see what really happens at real in game pvp in level differences!I want u know that i have tank 78+ and i can only lose by players who have epic jewels,freak auguments and heroes in their parties!
That shows that even u are low level there always a chance to defeat a high level enemy!!!:cool: So the true diefference coming only in gear!(that's also a hard discuss since we can never reach true ebayers...;))
Guys dont complain so badly about pvp,....:(
Maybe we should first w8 and see what really happens at real in game pvp in level differences!I want u know that i have tank 78+ and i can only lose by players who have epic jewels,freak auguments and heroes in their parties!
That shows that even u are low level there always a chance to defeat a high level enemy!!!:cool: So the true diefference coming only in gear!(that's also a hard discuss since we can never reach true ebayers...;))
nice vision of things, but you don't consider that while I spend hours and hours on the market to run my business, loads of players are farming money on a spoiler with programs. also, there are classes for which lvl gap is little thing, but my sk can hardly kill someone who is 5-6 lvls over, cause skills just don't enter. btw, why should we wait? this forum came before the release also for this, to let us point out what can run right and what is really not fair.
also I cannot understand ppl who say: the lvl nerf makes little difference.
so, do you mind if I steal you a little of what's in your home? I don't have hurry, after a bit I can steal everything little by little (which is why I hear so many ppl asking c4 back, probably we got tricked too much)
The nerf is noticeable, that i know.
Oh really? That's pretty amazing seeing as our PTS is not up yet, and none of the fansites have any definite, explicit info as to how bad the penalty is (that I have seen...feel free to link some here if you know otherwise).
I play in Franz which is in the upper half regarding population.
of bots yes, of players no.
Actually territories have a serious window of opportunities on how to change and tune stuff. NA servers are different from those in Russia and Korea.
Not all of them, no. L2NA is different from Russia and SEA yes, from Korea no. The only thing NCNA/NCWest is authorized to offer differently from Korea (so far in the last 5+ years) are *events* and *services*. Notice, for example, that Dimensional Merchants are still in-game despite the fact that NCWest does not offer the service of purchasing items through them.
Russia and SEA are different because there a third party company has bought the rights to host Lineage2.
NCNA/NCWest is a division of NCsoft, not an independent company, so we get the same verion of the game as Korea, just 'translated'(approximately). Is that silly that they won't allow any game modifications by NCWest? A lot of people think so, sure. But basically, it comes down to resources, as usual. NC doesn't want to pay for someone to make the modifications and deal with any bugs that may arise, just for our puny(relatively) NAL2 community.
Nobody said the world is perfect nor it should be, but there can be improvements, which wont happen if everybody says it is like this because world is bad and I can't do anything bout it.
True enough.
Monkeys went on the way to become humans because were not happy as monkeys.
ROFLMAO, no. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with whether human ancestors were "happy" as monkeys (hahahaha that's a funny one though, especially considering human ancestors were apes not monkeys).
Looks like some ppl like the things the way they are, no doubt, some recessive atavic genes that show up from time to time.
I heard your opinion, now go watch your bots. There have been some banned lately, you dont want all your "work" to go to waste.
1) I never said I was happy about the new penalties ^^. I simply said, basically, 'wait and see how bad it is before QQing so much'.
2) So because I disagree with you and point out the uselessness/prematureness of your QQing that makes me a botter? LOL once again, wake up please.
I have 1, *one*, main character who is level 79 and noble. That's it. It has taken me more than 5 years to reach that level. So you can take your judgements/assumptions and, well...you know ;)
like always, no fix for DC for oe skils liks stuns, no improve on life drain lvl for better pvp, and no skil for lvl80, so why we should lvl ?.....dwarf also are missed.....like usual.
like always, no fix for DC for oe skils liks stuns, no improve on life drain for better pvp, and no skil for lvl80, so why we should lvl ?.....dwarf also are missed.....like usual.
like always, no fix for DC for oe skils liks stuns, no improve on life drain lvl for better pvp, and no skil for lvl80, so why we should lvl ?.....dwarf also are missed.....like usual.
I'm glad that they don't add new high lvl skills, cause if they do so we can start moving to a private server. You are supposed to lvl to have fun and to enchant further your skills. If they add new 82+ skills we will surely get pwned from bots even more
lol ? do u ever tried it ? i do ....and i say lol ....u MUST keep spam BurningShop to have chance it apear and for 5 secondes Oo , wtf ?! what next, keep heal for doing damage ? pf no sanse....
lol ? do u ever tried it ? i do ....and i say lol ....u MUST keep spam BurningShop to have chance it apear and for 5 secondes Oo , wtf ?! what next, keep heal for doing damage ? pf no sanse....
I have several greater fury WC in clan... and I love the skill. It isn't that difficult to spam burning chop. An entire party with 1500 atk spd is pretty gross for pvp & pve.
Guys dont complain so badly about pvp,....:(
Maybe we should first w8 and see what really happens at real in game pvp in level differences!I want u know that i have tank 78+ and i can only lose by players who have epic jewels,freak auguments and heroes in their parties!
That shows that even u are low level there always a chance to defeat a high level enemy!!!:cool: So the true diefference coming only in gear!(that's also a hard discuss since we can never reach true ebayers...;))
Gratz, as a tank you resist more. As a nuker level 77 I get one shoted by level 80+ dagger. I do 300+ damage on him on my best nukes. Yeah, probably was 84-85, but in franz nobody should be that level unless played by more ppl taking turns. Some crazy 25 k dmg, that would one shot me even at level 80+. That only bot (well, with buffpets, i suppose) can take out full party of 78 level legits, imagine the whole Megabot ally coming down on any combination of legit allies.
20 "pro" botters can own all castles and kill all legits in all servers combined. If this looks like PvP to you, enjoy !
The only thing that can stop a bot is another bot. I wont become one just for this dubious honour.
M
Anyone knows about vitality? I've heared it will be improved, it will be max 400% instead of 300% and it will last longer, what I'd like to know is if it will be consumed at 2x after 78 as now or if this is gonna be fixed.
Vit system is nice, but since before 76 you are nothing and before 80 you're still quite weak, I'd like to be able to take advantage of vitality to reach a nice lvl (I don't mean lvl 85, but a lvl 80 would be very nice imo)
Anyone knows about vitality? I've heared it will be improved, it will be max 400% instead of 300% and it will last longer, what I'd like to know is if it will be consumed at 2x after 78 as now or if this is gonna be fixed.
Vit system is nice, but since before 76 you are nothing and before 80 you're still quite weak, I'd like to be able to take advantage of vitality to reach a nice lvl (I don't mean lvl 85, but a lvl 80 would be very nice imo)
Indeed vitality will last longer, much longer for 76+, i think level 80 becomes possible for legits that level 3 hours a day. Vitality is the best thing that happened to us so far, and it will be enhanced, so kudos to developpers, this is a very nice thing, making up for level 78+ nerf and other boosts bots got.
After this update overall we will not lose, but gain ground, all will collapse when level 90 will be introduced, but we are not there yet.
M
I can only agree, mao, and also I have a thought in my mind: for years max lvl had increased slowly and of a bunch of lvls every time (like 75--->78, 78--->80), so making 85--->90 would really be a backstab as 80--->85, no, even more, cause if 85 now requires years 90 would probably require some decades....
This would have the advantage that the developers would just have to think up a few new skills for Kamael Judicators, i.e. it would cost the company very little. On the other hand, with the new subclass separation pay service they would also earn some money. That's a managerial decision. Nothing we poor players have any influence on :(
But managerial decision would be trying to satisfy players, to make 'em happy of this game; instead after c4/c5 we never see a heavy server anymore, cause their 'managerial' decisions made most us us leave official servers to play on unofficial ones. Do you wanna make money, NCSoft? Give us a good game, don't nerf little by little all real player's stuff
Gracia Epilogue™ will be arriving on the Official Lineage II Public Test Server on Thursday, October 29th, 2009. New quests, hunting grounds, improved vitality and more await you in this final installment of Gracia. Check out the Gracia Epilogue Preview Site (http://www.lineage2.com/epilogue/) for a sneak peak of what is in store for this update.
You will need to download the official Lineage II Public Test Server client in order to join us on the 29th. The client will be available for download very soon so keep an eye out for announcements on how to get set up to access PTS.
today is 28th!!! when will the client be available for download (very soon?) in order to join on the 29th?
Patch notes are always posted in the PTS forum the day the PTS goes up, calm down people
which is today =)
and then still I don't understand the meaning of a PTS forum if there's nothing official out, since the whole forum is full of assumptions and such things. what should we discuss about, if you give us nothing official?
what should we discuss about, if you give us nothing official?
Same as here, rumours and things that are on in korea for instance. We will be able to test them in PTS and see if they apply here too or not. Most probably, yes, because translating is difficult enough, not to mention some changes to adapt it to our specifics.
M
So my issue is this. I haven't played L2 since last April. I was thinking about making a come back. So today, about an hour ago, I bought time on my account to test out the PTS and then move over to live. Well when I try to log on, it tells me that my time is expired, and I need to add more time. Any idea what to do? Any GM that can give me advice?
So my issue is this. I haven't played L2 since last April. I was thinking about making a come back. So today, about an hour ago, I bought time on my account to test out the PTS and then move over to live. Well when I try to log on, it tells me that my time is expired, and I need to add more time. Any idea what to do? Any GM that can give me advice?
It will take about 24-36 hours before you will be able to access PTS on your recently reactivated account. The database cycles at 6am CT so I would check back tomorrow morning and if not tomorrow, you'll be able to get on the following day. If you still cannot access PTS on Saturday, you'll want to submit a support ticket (http://help.ncsoft.com)
Why it's so low SP on characters on PTS? It's not even enough to learn all skills till 83 lvl, I'm not even talking about skills enchant. It would be nice, if characters could have 300m SP more to learn all skills and to test new skill enchant system.
It will take about 24-36 hours before you will be able to access PTS on your recently reactivated account. The database cycles at 6am CT so I would check back tomorrow morning and if not tomorrow, you'll be able to get on the following day. If you still cannot access PTS on Saturday, you'll want to submit a support ticket (http://help.ncsoft.com)
Thanks!
I think someone should make an FAQ about PTS, so we can sticky it, and not get repetitive stupid/silly questions over and over...
Why it's so low SP on characters on PTS? It's not even enough to learn all skills till 83 lvl, I'm not even talking about skills enchant. It would be nice, if characters could have 300m SP more to learn all skills and to test new skill enchant system.
I could learn all my skills, you just press a button and you get them all. And skills after 81 do not require sp just Forgotten Scrolls.
I could learn all my skills, you just press a button and you get them all. And skills after 81 do not require sp just Forgotten Scrolls.
Thx, where is this button? Should I speak to NPC for that?
Yes, speak to one of those cats in town, the button is Acquire skills i think or something close to that.
And you can buy forgotten scrolls to learn the 81+ skills from them, just right click on the scroll in your inventory and the skill is acquired. I think you can find the scrolls at Spellbooks button :p
That sounds great... but people would still ask LOL
If they fail to see FAQ in big bold letters, in a sticky thread. Then someone should just ban them. This game has enough ******s already, we seriously dont need any more of them.
you mean the My Teleport function????? if so its in the cats, Purchase Dimensional Items or whatever. then one of the packages will be the teleport things.
Already got those. One is a book you double-click to expand your TP slots. The others are 'pages' you can use that get consumed when you travel to your saved TP. But no matter what my husband or I do with those and the My Teleports window, it asks for flags.
If they fail to see FAQ in big bold letters, in a sticky thread. Then someone should just ban them. This game has enough ******s already, we seriously dont need any more of them.
I agree! I'm just not an optimist or pessimist... I'm a realist! Calling it like I see it haha
Items sold cannot be re-purchased after disconnection, quit, or character select
how any guy can anticipate crash computer, server crash or loosing connection? So nobody will use it without be affraied about any disconection :confused:
doubt it's meant as your personal bank....
odds are they added it for anyone who has the misfortune of selling their antharas or valakas when what they meant to sell was their stem
how any guy can anticipate crash computer, server crash or loosing connection? So nobody will use it without be affraied about any disconection :confused:
Least they added the option to begin with, let's not start complaining about something they just gave us we didn't have before. It's like when vitality first came out, instead of people being happy they added it in the first place, people were crying they wanted it to last longer, etc.
doubt it's meant as your personal bank....
odds are they added it for anyone who has the misfortune of selling their antharas or valakas when what they meant to sell was their stem
i was a little disappointed that the option didn't exist previously.
primarily because coming from diablo 2, where it was possible...
i don't recall if i ever sold anything specific aside from maybe thread or stem when there was someone looking to buy it for more.
but if you're selling a bunch of common, it's not difficult to accidentally drop your sealed drac boots which you had recently crafted into the mix..
what? you mean people crush these things?