Given volumes of players and the changes in the game, I'm not at all surprised about this change--it was pretty much a given that it would happen imo.
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I think this is not about turning it too easy, the lvl gap is a lot higher compared to old chronicles and theres no more enough live buffers turning grinding buffless into a ridiculous test of patience. Everybody know that the game now only starts after S grade so theres no point in let people stucked in A grade for months.
I think this is not about turning it too easy, the lvl gap is a lot higher compared to old chronicles and theres no more enough live buffers turning grinding buffless into a ridiculous test of patience. Everybody know that the game now only starts after S grade so theres no point in let people stucked in A grade for months.
At the same time killing alot of new buffers chances of becoming S grade, to help out, becuase many people would rather SOE back to town/grab XP free buffs/and port out again then dragging a buffer along through the easy levels. Which in turn makes the lack of S grade live buffers even greater.
Maybe if your a buffer they should allow you to go to Newbie Buffer and grab a 0% XP loss summon.
Since there will be almost nobody levelling a buffer to S grade, I suppose that the few main buffers and healers we have ingame now will become even more rare and valuable?
Or just the opposite, PP got newbie VR for the DDs.
No. Now you dont need a PP since you can get Blessed Soul, Blessed Body, Haste, and Acumen. All lasting 1 hour.
Having newbie buffs to 62 was making it hard enough, now it will be even harder. They should just stop at lvl 40 or 52.
Let me explain.
Because of newbie buffs, most people solo. Buffers (WC's, nevermind pp) can't get parties and you see fewer of them at higher lvl. Then when newbie buffs are gone, you cannot find active WC's for parties. I know I've run into this so much it ****** me off to the max.
EDIT: Yes, most people are greedy enough that they would rather SoE every hour. Even with focus /dw/ guidance / gmight from WC's not to mention they deal some dmg with soul cry and can chant of life all the time.
There has always been a problem of amount of the right classes on at the same time,
or when parties want them.I have tried to lfg on our lvl 77 dc,for hours,with no luck,
cause if ya not got cov you suck,and even if ya do you still might not get a group
cause they will not take two of the same class.Now with buffs going to lvl 75,all
that will will increase are new players that have no idea what to do when in a party.
I recently played in a lvl 66 kama,where everyone needed buffs,there was a pp in
the group that really had no idea what to buff each class.This learning problem will
then just occur at lvl 75 above.
Having newbie buffs to 62 was making it hard enough, now it will be even harder. They should just stop at lvl 40 or 52.
Let me explain.
Because of newbie buffs, most people solo. Buffers (WC's, nevermind pp) can't get parties and you see fewer of them at higher lvl. Then when newbie buffs are gone, you cannot find active WC's for parties. I know I've run into this so much it ****** me off to the max.
EDIT: Yes, most people are greedy enough that they would rather SoE every hour. Even with focus /dw/ guidance / gmight from WC's not to mention they deal some dmg with soul cry and can chant of life all the time.
Then those people deserve to cry about not having a buffer at higher levels.
Since there will be almost nobody levelling a buffer to S grade, I suppose that the few main buffers and healers we have ingame now will become even more rare and valuable?
not when they have cov and a wolf they aint lol
LOL... they still are... any other toon w/ a wolf and cov will still do 10x more dmg, you would be better off dragin the pp behind a actual dd w/ the same setup
LOL... they still are... any other toon w/ a wolf and cov will still do 10x more dmg, you would be better off dragin the pp behind a actual dd w/ the same setup
The only toon that has cov is DC so if we're talking a solo with wolf than sure DC will be better hands down.
If the newbie buffs themselves dont change and still lack stuff like might, focus, dw then maybe there will still be a need for buffers.
As for PP I agree there isn't much reason to lvl one past 78 as things stand right now. I know you can OE elemental resists in the next update but I don't think they have to lvl higher for that. They can get some kind of crit buff but that's at lvl 82 or something obscene. Can't imagine doing that grind for such a buff.
There has always been a problem of amount of the right classes on at the same time,
or when parties want them.I have tried to lfg on our lvl 77 dc,for hours,with no luck,
cause if ya not got cov you suck,and even if ya do you still might not get a group
cause they will not take two of the same class.Now with buffs going to lvl 75,all
that will will increase are new players that have no idea what to do when in a party.
I recently played in a lvl 66 kama,where everyone needed buffs,there was a pp in
the group that really had no idea what to buff each class.This learning problem will
then just occur at lvl 75 above.
if u have cov they will ask for cop so its almost same
ur nothing befor 79/80+ in pvp so its good to can lvl a bit faster
renfield,
read the 1st page. we were talking about boxing cov...
@hatemonger
hate to break it to u if u read my sig......
i have done the math... when i do it ur way i get 18% in 72 min, my way i get 12 % in 35 min....
remeber i only lvl to vit lvl 2 and then move to the next char.........
not when ur only doing 8 mobs.......
@ batslav....
tsera's my wife:) we only pve. So answering with the "ull need this for pvp" answer means nothing to us lol
yes ive read your sig... you have a bunch of toons, yeah me too. 28 toons doesnt mean you know how to xp, just that you know how to create toons.
you need to go to a higher xp yield area. w/ a tyrant or destro equipt w/ wolf draggin a pp and w/ oop DC buffs you will get more xp if you find a proper place... now if your xping a toon for 30 minutes then stoping its a waste of time to even talk about it.
your sig says you dont want to lvl quickly of efficiently, well oop cov on a dd equipt pp is def the flagship of ineffiency... w/ a different setup you could lvl a dd, your pp, your wolf all at the same time and jus as fast w/ better adena per hour and less soulores consumed w/ coving a pp that will still have horrible stats
More of death to SE than PP IMO!
Hardly. SE becomes now superhealer, perhaps also bsoe, or other goodies for a party, They make it like you will only need one buffer, so if they are rare will be more valuable. SE already has empower for mages and vr for fighters, now will be able to heal also, do PR and probably also btb, acumen or whatever. Nope, SE wont die. My main is SE and I am not complaining at all, on the contrary, I am truly amazed at the luck that struck me.
So this will happen after level 76... Tough luck, looks like you still need to level support if you want to benefit heavily from it. But now 76 is a piece of cake compared on how it was in C4 for instance. Instead of years you can do it in 6 months of casual playing like 2 hours a day.
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sad for buffers but faster lvling isnt bad
and btw dont care if pvp means something to u or not but its part of the game
PvP is a waste of time when the ones you fights bots upto 83+ and some even have vesper weapons now.
I can easely name you 20+ bots on Aria that has done that and some of them now just PK random people because they are bored from not having another bot to fight against.
PvP is a waste of time when the ones you fights bots upto 83+ and some even have vesper weapons now.
I can easely name you 20+ bots on Aria that has done that and some of them now just PK random people because they are bored from not having another bot to fight against.
Yep, legits should let bots PK them, ignore and move away. Worse thing that can happen to a bot is to ignore it's "achievements" and show no concern at all. After the PK they will be the frustrated ones, perhaps even quit and leave us be. As long as there are still ppl that fight bots they will find some reason to be, but those that fight them are joining their ranks or quit. So bots will eventually quit too.
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but my point is this... why suggest things that i cant do( hate knows this but rest dont) because im colourblind i cant do more mobs than 4-8 cuz the flashing kills my eyes, i cant run cuz i cant see walls corners,terrain etc, and i cant handle watching red coloured mobs(ie the red coloured mobs in IT).
So im stuck with being stationary and looking away from the screen with the ss flashing. Hence why i use bows on mystics,(mp regen) stand still and stay in 1 room in cats lol
Hardly. SE becomes now superhealer, perhaps also bsoe, or other goodies for a party, They make it like you will only need one buffer, so if they are rare will be more valuable. SE already has empower for mages and vr for fighters, now will be able to heal also, do PR and probably also btb, acumen or whatever. Nope, SE wont die. My main is SE and I am not complaining at all, on the contrary, I am truly amazed at the luck that struck me.
So this will happen after level 76... Tough luck, looks like you still need to level support if you want to benefit heavily from it. But now 76 is a piece of cake compared on how it was in C4 for instance. Instead of years you can do it in 6 months of casual playing like 2 hours a day.
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SE is Defiantly not the Super Healer, it's still pretty much the worst healing class compared to Cardinal/Eva Saint. It's defiantly a nice boost for SE's, but it doesn't make them the super healer by any stretch of the imagination.
This just helps those people that don't have many friends or parties. I know that my SE at only level 56 erases a lot of the buffs that newbie buffs can get with the exception of WW (Because its the same), Shield (Again because its the same) and VR (i'd need 74 to cancel theirs out). So that being said, I can still give might, focus, DW, Emp, Mental shield, Concentration. Of course not every class needs these, but with just the fighter ones thats still quite a bit of help on the damage side. Anyone who actually takes the time to party a buffer class will realize still that these newbie buffs aren't all they're cracked up to be. They just help a little.
SE is Defiantly not the Super Healer, it's still pretty much the worst healing class compared to Cardinal/Eva Saint. It's defiantly a nice boost for SE's, but it doesn't make them the super healer by any stretch of the imagination.
So, what will you choose for your slot, Mass Rez, MGH or Purify? :rolleyes:
Ur right smittie lol i hate fog, been there acouple o times..... and yep ppl walk by me in drac and nm, i cant tell the diff nor can i see em unless there almost a couple pixels in front of me.....
the most famous line my buddy darkwingduck used to shout at me was.."bey watch out for the...... nevermind...:P"
but my point is this... why suggest things that i cant do( hate knows this but rest dont) because im colourblind i cant do more mobs than 4-8 cuz the flashing kills my eyes, i cant run cuz i cant see walls corners,terrain etc, and i cant handle watching red coloured mobs(ie the red coloured mobs in IT).
So im stuck with being stationary and looking away from the screen with the ss flashing. Hence why i use bows on mystics,(mp regen) stand still and stay in 1 room in cats lol
bah forgot about that... scratch all the trash i talked, sorry. still in a perfect world you would be better of not doing battle pp
SE is Defiantly not the Super Healer, it's still pretty much the worst healing class compared to Cardinal/Eva Saint. It's defiantly a nice boost for SE's, but it doesn't make them the super healer by any stretch of the imagination.
Hum, this means we cant get Major Heal ? I was thinking at this in the first place, as my choice for my SE. After that maybe PR, Clarity and something else I havent decided yet.
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Hum, this means we cant get Major Heal ? I was thinking at this in the first place, as my choice for my SE. After that maybe PR, Clarity and something else I havent decided yet.
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No? I'm just saying even with Major Heal, SE's are still inferior healers compared to EE's or Cardinals.
No? I'm just saying even with Major Heal, SE's are still inferior healers compared to EE's or Cardinals.
I never said will be better than the others, just superhealer compared to now, however the point is that newbie buffs will not heal you, there is still healer needed, even if you dont need the buffs. Pots wont do above level 60. Healer will be needed all the time, unless you one-hit mobs with wizard class and kooka.
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I hope NCSoft - in some future chronicle - add this:
- We achieve maximum level (lvl 100 maybe?), after a 5 minutes quest at lvl 5 (afterall, you dont want to be maximum level for free, no fun in that!),
- We can buy in npc shops (only at Giran - to be more dificult!) all items from ng to S100, with 1000 adenas has the maximum price,
- All classes can have all the other classes skills, and infinite mana, but not infinite health (its important the game keep is dificulty).
So if you see a a full pt 84lvl with Verspers & Dynasty boting at your favourite spot will you PK them?
Can you?
Or you are talking about some "poor" dworfs that they are trying to spoil some CBP & SOP at low lvls with no ss on?
Because if you talk about the second ones only(and i am pretty sure that only they are the ones who you can PK)then your whole thought simply fails.
Please re-read what you quoted. I said legits should let bots PK them (the legits). You are very right that the bot driver will kill you if you try to train or pk his bots. I saw hero in Franz looking over his bots in catas, no legit can kill that, I said let bots PK you. If you are low level, come again. Join a legit clan with CL2 and fort, you lose little, especially if you get high level rez from clannies. Come again, let the bot PK you again and call his enemies in case it has a tag, or any other bot around which is not afk, to come and kill. Most will come to kill red if they are not afk.
Heck, even your clannies can come kill red bot, the trick is to keep it red long enough. In the end it will have a bunch of more PKs, will lose some exp and will think again if it is worth it to PK legits that way. Perhaps there are other free spots nearby...
As long as legits "fight back" "defending" against the driver, to prove their manhood they will get purple and bot will get +1 PvP + fun + more incentives to bot to prove he is a "PWNZ0R", a real man, full of skill and such crap.
I bet they will like that, funny thing is many legits believe they will defeat bots and they really have a chance. Such delusions make ppl bot, "just a couple of levels" and buy adena "just once" so they "level the field".
Nope, bots should fight bots, only be awarded PK, not PvP points by legits.
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um phoenix look at my sig... im not pro, i dont have s gear and i aint gonna go fast lol and i have no lvls....
This just circles back around to our previous argument... don't complain when you intentionally gimp yourself by selling all your S-gear to equip your million alts in A grade.
Pagan's is one of the best lazy places to level... all it is /next target /smash (and for me 12345, enter chat ftw, every 2minutes).