Question for some PvP oriented MM's
Any of skills, Throne of Ice or Diamond Dust is worth to learn?
Or better is wait 80 lvl and use 150 kk SP for Bubble?
About wasting SP...
Is OE Vortex by Chance is really improve chance ? (especially against 8x+ )
Has anyone OE fear to be efficient in PvP? (SWM song has nice land rate)
Is anything can be OE'd that can help to reduce power of critics from dagger hit?
Aura Flash OE by chance to lose target is known by me :)
Is anything can be OE'd to brake cast of enemy nuker?
Robe Mastery OE to increse M def is known by me as well :)
1. Make a new folder.
2. Copy L2 files and paste into that new folder.
3. Download "Live to PTS Conversion" zip from the official website and follow directions.
( ftp://l2clientdownload.lineage2.com/ptsconversion/LivetoPTSconversion.zip )
4. Start the PTS client.
5. Test your theories on PTS and enjoy.
1. Make a new folder.
2. Copy L2 files and paste into that new folder.
3. Download "Live to PTS Conversion" zip from the official website and follow directions.
( ftp://l2clientdownload.lineage2.com/ptsconversion/LivetoPTSconversion.zip )
4. Start the PTS client.
5. Test your theories on PTS and enjoy.
Geeee thx for such anwser!
Maybe you just notice I have asked people that have a practice in PvP as MM. Question is if it is worth to spend SP on skills (so hardly grind), and if they maybe know anythig that I missed about skills improvments against main enemies of MM.
If you aren't MM or you don't have such knowlage just please don't post.
P.S. Yes I know I can type google :"MM skills OE lineage"
And you know? I did it.
There are other forums too,to find answers,if here you can't.
Heh yeap it seem that non-offical forums are more alive that one :(
Blah has many info - but was wonder if some 'fresh' info I can find. It seem that what I know is for now enough:
Freezing Skin +6 -> P def
Robe +5 -> M def
Aura Flash +3 -> chance
Question for some PvP oriented MM's
Any of skills, Throne of Ice or Diamond Dust is worth to learn?
Or better is wait 80 lvl and use 150 kk SP for Bubble?
Depending on how you pvp, each skill is good for different purposes. I have Diamond dust but not Throne of Ice, But after doing some research myself before getting those skills i learned that Throne of Ice is great for 1v1 and oly. But Diamond dust on the other hand is the complete opposite, its a great AOE skill that does ok dmg but it slows your enemys down quite a bit. Diamond dust is used to crowd control, but also comes in handy with close melee classes. If you spam OE Aura Flash, OE Ice Wall, and Diamond dust you can kill off alot of lowbies and be a annoying little that slows ppl,does good dmg, and best of all cancels target :D. Also from research, i saw that most ppl get diamond dust first, since its a very useful skill in both small and big scale pvp.
About wasting SP...
Is OE Vortex by Chance is really improve chance ? (especially against 8x+ )
Has anyone OE fear to be efficient in PvP? (SWM song has nice land rate)
Well i have +10 fear, and there are times that fear will not land at all. I think me getting +10 fear chance was a waste, since i barely use it because sometimes it lands on the first try and sometimes i need to cast it 10 times before it lands. Typically higher chance on tankers.
Is anything can be OE'd that can help to reduce power of critics from dagger hit?
Aura Flash OE by chance to lose target is known by me :)
You can try OEing for more pdef. I OE'd my Freezing Skin for defense and it gave me a nice boost :D. But other then that we're helpless against daggers.
Depending on how you pvp, each skill is good for different purposes. I have Diamond dust but not Throne of Ice, But after doing some research myself before getting those skills i learned that Throne of Ice is great for 1v1 and oly.
Is Throne of Ice really froze enemy for 10 sec that one cannot literally move or they can do some tricks - like teleport / 'escape' from it?
It would be a nice .. but sounds too cool so probably land rate is 1/1000 or cast take ages :p
yes they are frozen for 10 seconds and also has an ice dagger effect which drains hp. But i havent tested the skill yet to know if the freezing goes away when they are hit again for they stay frozen. Hope someone confirms that.
Also the diamond dust and throne of ice, i suggest you get only one of the skills first and then when you hit 80 you can get bubble, and then get all your skills after that since 80 only has 1 skill and 81 are all forgotten scrolls which means you will have a ton of sp
Question for some PvP oriented MM's
Any of skills, Throne of Ice or Diamond Dust is worth to learn?
Or better is wait 80 lvl and use 150 kk SP for Bubble?
About wasting SP...
Is OE Vortex by Chance is really improve chance ? (especially against 8x+ )
Has anyone OE fear to be efficient in PvP? (SWM song has nice land rate)
Is anything can be OE'd that can help to reduce power of critics from dagger hit?
Aura Flash OE by chance to lose target is known by me :)
Is anything can be OE'd to brake cast of enemy nuker?
Robe Mastery OE to increse M def is known by me as well :)
Diamond dust is good in some situations, throne of ice is not... I wouldn't waste the SP. Bubble is very good in sieges, sometimes good in mass pvp.
Your chance to land vortex is based on your matk vs targets mdef, the targets level vs the skill level, and base chance. Enchanting it with ANYTHING increases the skill level and makes it land more (+1-+3 = level 81, +4-+6 = 82, +7-+9 = 83, +10-+12 = 84, +13-+15 = 85). It's a 77 skill, so bringing it to +1 raises it from 77 to 81... very much worth it. Base chance is just it's base chance to land. To give you an idea of base chances... shield stun is 80%, vortex is 80%, frost bolt is 60%. Nobody (as far as I know) knows what enchanting for chance does on ice vortex, but if it does the same thing as enchanting for chance does on every other skill, it adds 1% to base rate per enchant. That being said, I did power.
Don't use fear in pvp it will get you killed.
You can OE robe mastery for pdef and it gives a decent boost, and also freezing skin for defense but if you fight a TH, do NOT put freezing skin on, or they will mirage melee you to death. Once again, that being said, I did mdef on robes... the extra pdef doesn't help that much vs daggers. What DOES help is aura flashing daggers, as you said you know, and you should enchant that for chance, it does increase the base land rate, which I have no idea what it is, but it's not bad for a target drop skill.
Break cast? I assume you mean defend against nukers? Like you said, robe mastery for mdef...anti-magic is ok, not that great but does give a few points of mdef. Fast casting speed can give you a few extra cast speed you need to get the first spell off and interrupt nukes. It does quite a bit first couple levels, then very little at later levels. That is about all you can do there.
Any page that show effect of OE freezing Skin in P def path?
I can't find such one.
OE+7 and OE+9 gave me same effect.
I guess +10 is breakpoint ... but any table?
Please :)
Is there a chart somewhere that shows what the benefits are to each skill when enchanted. Also how much ++ is eqivelent to what lvl, or are they all stated above. Basically adds a lvl every 3 enchants.
Maybe you just notice I have asked people that have a practice in PvP as MM. Question is if it is worth to spend SP on skills (so hardly grind), and if they maybe know anythig that I missed about skills improvments against main enemies of MM.
If you aren't MM or you don't have such knowlage just please don't post.
P.S. Yes I know I can type google :"MM skills OE lineage"
And you know? I did it.
LoL. I'm sorry that I've exposed your lack of simple train of thought. You also assume too much.... You know the saying about people who assume. You're looking for advice on how to play the game and at that moment in time I gave you the best option to find out the answers to your questions with personal hands-on experience.
I've played every useful class in the game since beta. You're partially correct though. I didn't bother to grind the spellsinger past Lv.20 because of the simple fact it's the weakest nuker in the game, can't drain an enemy to regain full health nor do I like frequently running out of MP.
Good luck...:cool:
LoL. (...) I didn't bother to grind the spellsinger past Lv.20 (....)
Good luck...:cool:
You've made my day.
1st graveyard from 2 years back.
2nd you admit that you were just was trolling
But why?!
If it was result of party - stop it, is not healthy :)
Apart of it I can answer OP a bit.:D
OK bubble is nice but if one consider exp as primary target I would recommend Diamond Dust skill.
Powerful AoE skill really good for exp in FoG.
Second skill Throne of Ice .. I can't find it useful - but maybe I'm just too weak/low level to make it useful.
Bubble is nice but 1 h reuse make it only 'last hop' skill.
In real PvP 3rd programs detect you in 0.5 sec and your attack is cancelled. Only one really good moment is put it at castle gate, but now with all valors/flames/etc it is a bit problematic
In PvE 1h reuse make it useful in final point RB (SoI) or when you just get bored ;)
About OE skills Freezing Skin/Aura Flash OE is must.
In PvP against 8x+ Hydro Blast have to be OE.
Now with continuous nerf of elements don't even think to go OE element path.
I wasn't trolling. I gave legitimate good advice. Sorry that you couldn't recognize that. Also, I don't roam official forums daily. Only when i'm super bored shopping in Giran and among other things not game related. I noticed that this post was dead years ago but I've also taken almost a year away from the game since your original post.
Trolling: the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet, generally on message boards. When done in a moderated internet community, this can result in banning. When done to uptight people such as fundies, this can result in hilarity.
I was 78,9 and was looking for information where to go (OE/buffs) considering pvp... Couldn't find any reasonable information apart of info from blah, got between flames :)