I'm sure Inner Circle Alliance needs no introduction, but I'll proceed anyway.
ICA, has been around for a long time and has seen some of the best players and fought against many great alliances and alongside of some excellent ones as well.
Anyone who is anyone on the server knows ICA has had it's major fallout, but we are clawing our way back into a big time clan again. I personally have been playing since Halls of Pantheon, if anyone remembers that clan under Revenant. C2 actually, so I have been around for a while. Not that that necesarrily means anything. I have chosen ICA not very long ago, and have come to enjoy the many good players in it now.
I chose to help a clan that has been so fundamental in the forging of what this server has become simply because I want to see the clans that made this server stay around for a long time. I am charged with recruiting, so I challenge the best of you to join me and ICA in our cause. We choose to play the game and be competitive on all levels. So if you think you have what it takes to join one of the longest standing clans on the server, contact Pirkacet. In game via the toon name Pirkacet via mail or pm, or email me at [email protected]. Simply put "ICA MEMBERSHIP" as the subject so I know, even if it goes into the junk folder to read it carefully.
We're a lvl 10 clan, and pursuing active members to help us. I would encourage all players looking for a clan, to seriously give us a good look.
Tanom has taken over the clan, but is an original member of the old school ICA and is a good man, who takes alot of care in his members.
Give Pirkacet an in game pm or a mail to get an interview for recruitment if interested. All levels are encouraged to try at least, as we have people from the teens to the 80's. We have vent, and are active always in politics.
So come help us, I personally look forward to speaking with you!
Good luck with your recruiting and happy to see there might be some fun moments ahead again with clans that I considered worth the mention ^^
To see the name Revenant pop up again brings back fond memories of the old days :) I've been around long enough to have seen the birth of Both ICA and Pantheon and am looking forward to what the future may bring ^^
Thank you Ley, you have always held my respect and I have even partied with you and your clan before, in Pantheon of course. You are a player to be held in high regard and your well wishes will be remembered well. Good to see you and your wolfpack still around! Talk to me in game sometime, it has been a while.
Nobody is invincible sir...or ma'am. Death is unfortunate, but the xp gained and relationships formed are far more valuable than a few deaths. But again, with more experienced members and more and more people in the clan, the members will become more familiar with each other and the deaths will occur less and less.
Keep the faith, you are welcome to speak to me if you wish a part of the clan sir. (again or ma'am)
Thank you for your response, or reply, whichever you prefer.
Okay so you said you are a political clan. My question to you where do you stand?
There seem to me to be 2 major political sides to this server. RR, IS, PC and their extended allies on one side. The other side consists of DA, DW, SoA and their extended allies. So with what side does ICA stand with? Or are you forming your own side to challenge the 2 major political groups?
Whatever your political views on the server are, which I am sure people would like to know .... Welcome back and good luck with your recruiting efforts.
We would like nothing more than peace for now, but with Dragon Advocates and their people who took our castle, we needed the help of RR and them, so although we'd prefer to not side with anyone, our friendlies currently are the RR side until the DA side desist in taking our assets and attacking our people.
All though currently not at war with anyone we are under attack by the Dragon Advocate side.
But we are our own alliance. So with that being said...this is how I would imagine it. I am not saying we do not appreciate the RR help, because it is what we need I guess. Because we are our own alliance does not mean that we have to present a side that is in competition for the same things as DA and the RR sides. When under attack by DA, the RR people have helped us and we are most appreciative of that.
RR and the clans which I have not been mentioned on their side and the ones I have not mentioned on the DA side (I apologize if that offends anyone) who have helped us at times, we are appreciative. However, we are ICA...not DA, not RR, or anybody else. Because we have political interest on the server does not necesarrily mean we have to choose a side. In fact I wish to highlight that we are our own side. We are ICA.
Unfortunatley our neutrality cannot be maintained until DA stops attacking us though. Again we are NOT at war with anyone. If more questions about this need answered I suggest contacting Tanom or myself in game. Thank you, I hope this helps.
We will protect our own but yet since we are under attack we cannot claim neutrality.
Our main ambition is to get back into the swing of things and whatever we have, we will make the most of. Again I apologize for not having mentioned all the clans involved in the RR and DA side of things.
Notice she/he is from peacecorps and as I have already stated, we try to maintain our neutrality. If someone is there at a castle during a siege other than us, we will defend it...including if we must eat a dwarf or two.
As stated though, we only try to maintain our neutrality and not be under the whim of neither RR, PeaceCorps, or DragonAdvocates. We are ICA and none of the aforementioned. If she was there to help, it was probably an accident, if not, than it just goes to prove further that we are politically active but are our own independent side.
...dwarves.
We are not a bad clan, an obvious stereotype for how can this person know all of our alliance and relate that we are all bad. Tanom our clan leader has done much for nearly every member, do not take mine or this "dwarf's" word for it, simply ask a member with an ICA tag you see running around.
I do have a question though dwarf...on this epic raid AND the castle defend, what did the rest of your clan do while our leader mercileslessly murdered you? (that was sarcasm in case you didn't catch it.) Highly unlikely scenario, but why were you the only one killed twice, once while "helping" to defend the castle, and once while on an epic raid with both our clans....interesting, my guess would be you being a spy or an nuiscance as you are being now.
In any case this is a recruitment thread, let those who wish to state ICA is a bad clan reserve their comments somewhere else or take up personal issues such as this in game with those who have offended ... please and thank you.
So.... there ya go everyone, encouragment to join ICA, a GOOD clan, who doesn't have a clan leader that eats dwarves.
Sorry for the doubt lil dwarf, I thought a few things sounded fishy was all, so naturally as an officer of ICA I had to try and debunk you. I apologize to you here, formally in front of all sir.
(grrr I hate it when ppl **** with me like that lol)
As my recruiting officer has so eloquently mentioned, we are currently accepting applications, written or verbal to join us on Sayha at this time.
I have seen this clan from what it was in the golden age of Seighardt to present
and in spite of the occasional dwarven indigestion, <_< we are steadfast and remain
atune to the individual and macro objectives as sole players or the group entity as clan.
We regularly and as a normal practice ever endeavor to help clanmates in personal xp and assist with ingame info and quests.
ICA has never been online association that soley consists of a leader with "lock-step" underlings that merely log on and do the bidding of the clan leader. But instead the "Inner Circle" has always been that tight and unspoken ring that ever continues to this moment, a group bound together by its mutual existance and reliance of each individual. And directed by one who is not always perfect, but strives to improve upon setbacks or challenges.
one word I can use to describe ICA, and which I like is "I******es"
This word, which happens to be a play on two words, means something sorta like
"the ICA Inglourious ********"
and best describes a steadfast tenacity and endurance through any struggle or challenge.
I invite you to check us out ingame and drop us an email to Pirkacets aforementioned email address. Perhaps you could join in for a short time in a "Team Tanom" group.
Thank you Ley, you have always held my respect and I have even partied with you and your clan before, in Pantheon of course. You are a player to be held in high regard and your well wishes will be remembered well. Good to see you and your wolfpack still around! Talk to me in game sometime, it has been a while.
Pirkacet
Heeh indeed way to long :) Good to see you are still around as well mate ;)
I'll try to catch you online when I have a few moments to log in game myself :) Which is sporadic these days with work and pregnancy :D
Well all Dorf consumption aside, Lets all agree that there will be new changes in the next few months. And possibly server merges with things to come.
anyway check us out in Sayha
Well all Dorf consumption aside, Lets all agree that there will be new changes in the next few months. And possibly server merges with things to come.
anyway check us out in Sayha
Totally agreed with that already at the first post ;)
Lets hope you meant exciting not exiting...lol. :)
But as Tanom stated, we are still reforming so despite dwaves and other disturbances, this thread is still related to ICA. We are who we are, and if you want to find out what that means, join us or contact Tanom or Pirkacet in game for an interview in order to join clan.
Ley...if you're invitation for clans to come do raids with your wolves is still open I am pretty sure we can set something up. I'd have to confer with Tanom, but I'm pretty sure we'd love to get together and do some raids. IF you're not too prego yet. If not, whenever you get time lol...18 years or so.
Tanom basically got ica when all the old ica quit. props to him for sticking w it. but trying to build dead clan on dead server never gunna happen. o and btw talking about Revenant, guy is a scammer.
BestProphet:
im not sure where you got your info, but you obviously know very little about what ICA is today and the history behind NovaVita. As far as Revenant being a scammer, how dare you come on these forums saying that
Your opinions on the activity of Sayha server is absurb if you compare it to the crazily populated servers as Bartz or the euro servers.
I think people that are here are content with the way things are. Theres is plenty enough to do with the people available enough to do it. Why are you here if this server is "dead" to you? hmmm?
Youre like the type of person that walks into a forest fire and says the fire is out. Why are you here if its true? lol...
PS Edit: I am the "old" ICA...
im just merely on the chain of successive leadership. I didnt ask to be leader of this clan, but it came to me when i availed myself to the job description of a leader. I was doing the tasks of leadership in the clan while i was still just an officer. I was following in the example put down before me with Allehandra. Alle was the first person that showed me what being a leader is. Its being a servant. A true leader leads by helping other and giving them the opportunity and resources to do it. Porthios is another person that showed true leadership by organization and direction. He kept the main things, the main things.
Dylan led by example as well. His cool-thinking in sticky and pressured situations is renown. Vacxe (original) was a caring leader who often spoke to people 1 to 1. There were many others, Stinklez, who i can go on and on about his well-being about others that is an example to us all as well as Noto and rygor and Firebird, Oba, Fangdar, Zebedee, Stellvia and even BlackCrusader before everyone.
Leaders arent perfect, except for one.
we're celebrating his birthday this month.
merry christmas
<vLordChronic
Tanom dont bring up ppl like stellvia or people who scammed the clan as being "good leaders".I duno who BestProphet is but he/she does sound rite ;o. Revenant is a scammer, he has scammed multiple clans ive vouched for him to get into. He comes to sieges then cries about not getting exp after it. Then emos out then steals a bunch of gear and dissapears for a month. He has done this many times. Alle was a good guy but left when the clan needed him the most. Only ppl who actually good on that list was Porth, Vacxe, and Stinklez. The rest can shove it.
I got nothing but love for my old clan of ica, but noone in it now would ever had been in it while i was in it. Im glad u are still trying to lead ica thou. but i think u need to realize Sieghardt died the day ICA + Catalyst transfered off. Maybe come try another server ;p cuz i know sayha hasnt changed ;p
lol see even LordChronic , one of ICA oldest/ best members agrees with me. I only play on sayha for few ppl in my clan still, I play on pheonix daily and sayha every siege weekend on a alt. No other reason to login to Sayha. But keep acting like ICA was given to u. was more like disbanded 2 you.
p.s. Revenant is the nicest scammer i ever met in my life
<vLordChronic
Tanom dont bring up ppl like stellvia or people who scammed the clan as being "good leaders".I duno who BestProphet is but he/she does sound rite ;o. Revenant is a scammer, he has scammed multiple clans ive vouched for him to get into. He comes to sieges then cries about not getting exp after it. Then emos out then steals a bunch of gear and dissapears for a month. He has done this many times. Alle was a good guy but left when the clan needed him the most. Only ppl who actually good on that list was Porth, Vacxe, and Stinklez. The rest can shove it.
I got nothing but love for my old clan of ica, but noone in it now would ever had been in it while i was in it. Im glad u are still trying to lead ica thou. but i think u need to realize Sieghardt died the day ICA + Catalyst transfered off. Maybe come try another server ;p cuz i know sayha hasnt changed ;p
Much <3 to you KillaJedi...
But as i mentioned noone is perfect except for One.
Did you not forget that Vacxe may not have been directly guilty regarding the boss jewels scam in C5, but indirectly turned a blind eye to what was going on and kept everyone in the dark.
I didnt come to defend Revenant nor accuse him. But bringing up supposed dirt on him isnt the purpose here.
The Bottom line is this...
I am ICA
for better or worse...
All those that say ICA is dead are gone, I am still here.
there are many still yet here, that have picked up where previous members left off.
The truth is that everyone was a new recruit at one time. Even you KillaJedi
I remember giving you xp groups in Patriots necropolis when noone would.
I remember speaking on your behalf to get you into ICA. (yes i was in ICA before chronic)
Alle left when he had no choice. He didnt go anywhere else. He left the server and shortly afterwards left L2
Its true Stellvia kept the money of the clan hall, or misappropriated it. Either way it was a bad decision. That doesnt make any of his previous leadership negated for a moment of negligence. All have fallen and all have made mistakes. Even i am not pure from mistakes.
Ive made plenty and have misrepresented the clan often. But i am the last ICA, not chronic as he portrays in his fraps <3
But as i mentioned noone is perfect except for One.
Did you not forget that Vacxe may not have been directly guilty regarding the boss jewels scam in C5, but indirectly turned a blind eye to what was going on and kept everyone in the dark.
I didnt come to defend Revenant nor accuse him. But bringing up supposed dirt on him isnt the purpose here.
The Bottom line is this...
I am ICA
for better or worse...
All those that say ICA is dead are gone, I am still here.
there are many still yet here, that have picked up where previous members left off.
The truth is that everyone was a new recruit at one time. Even you KillaJedi
I remember giving you xp groups in Patriots necropolis when noone would.
I remember speaking on your behalf to get you into ICA. (yes i was in ICA before chronic)
Alle left when he had no choice. He didnt go anywhere else. He left the server and shortly afterwards left L2
Its true Stellvia kept the money of the clan hall, or misappropriated it. Either way it was a bad decision. That doesnt make any of his previous leadership negated for a moment of negligence. All have fallen and all have made mistakes. Even i am not pure from mistakes.
Ive made plenty and have misrepresented the clan often. But i am the last ICA, not chronic as he portrays in his fraps <3
Actually we've been quite successful in our recruiting lately. Which is one of the reasons weve recently leveled to lvl 10 clan. Alot of academy toons with fresh new people.
Another reason for our success is multilanguage versatility. I speak 3 languages and am able to communicate with our spanish and french clannies as well as conduct in english.
ICA in the past has always had Euros, this time we have south Americans. Most of which live in Chile.
I trully smile and laugh when people say this is a dead clan. :)
They just DONT KNOW.
Instead of listening to the "quitters" and "doubters" and "naysayers", i think it would behoove someone who is seriously inquiring to actually go to a member of the existing clan in question.
Such as Panzzer, Galaktea, Cileda, DarkAtreyu, Ectheleon, Drugester, Beatus, Pirkacet, Charkun, DredrickTatum, BladeII, IZOKA, Sandow, SwordMaster, BlackBetty, Matzo, Nat5uki, orka, Nagg, Rastlin, ElfChick, FLEX, Pukolina and also Ahriwen, V12, and Xithaj.
Everyone one of these people i mentioned are live active toons that i talk to on a daily basis.
it not DRAMA when someone challenges you. Its merely an opportunity to put up, or shut up. Are you greater then I? theres my challenge to you.
We still are recruting in our Academy for those wishing to apply.
See how much fun this clan is potential recruits? Always excitement, always trying to figure out who to challenge, who to ignore, and who to respect.
I personally know that the people of ICA have been kind to me since being a part of their team and we look forward to recruiting and having fun with other people interested in grinding/xping/raiding/sieging...etc.
On Revenant, whether he was a good person or bad person, all I know is that he was nice to me, supported me and never scammed me in any way shape or form. If this were a Revenant discussion thread I'd consider offering more on the subject but, this is what it is, and ICA is still recruiting.
Tanom's leadership should not be questioned. He inherited the clan, and is one of the original members of the clan. Anyone, and I mean anyone who wishes to dispute the integrity, tradition, prestige, or long standing involvement of ICA on this server or Siegehardt should look to their own clan. Tell me, how many of your clans are lvl 10?
As far as the clan being dead, would we be recruiting if we were a dead clan on a dead server? Ask anyone in RR, IS, Leyaine from Wolvenspirit/Wolveneye, or DA if this is a dead server. Because members shuffle from clan to clan, and many members abandon the server for other servers or quit the game all together does not mean the server is dead. We have gained members and are continuing to grow again, and bring this clan back to the forefront of server affairs. Some people may leave the server, but people from other servers are always coming on to look for entertainment on Sayha, and we shall be here.
All these issues are unimportant, and totally irrelevant to the thread posting. ICA is and will be recruiting on this server. Please feel free to contact Pirkacet (me) or Tanom in game for an in game interview and we'll see where we go from there.
Actually we've been quite successful in our recruiting lately. Which is one of the reasons weve recently leveled to lvl 10 clan. Alot of academy toons with fresh new people.
ICA in the past has always had Euros, this time we have south Americans. Most of which live in Chile.
I trully smile and laugh when people say this is a dead clan. :)
They just DONT KNOW.
ok so u have a bunch of lvl 40 BRS in ICA now great...
Instead of listening to the "quitters" and "doubters" and "naysayers", i think it would behoove someone who is seriously inquiring to actually go to a member of the existing clan in question.
Such as Panzzer, Galaktea, Cileda, DarkAtreyu, Ectheleon, Drugester, Beatus, Pirkacet, Charkun, DredrickTatum, BladeII, IZOKA, Sandow, SwordMaster, BlackBetty, Matzo, Nat5uki, orka, Nagg, Rastlin, ElfChick, FLEX, Pukolina and also Ahriwen, V12, and Xithaj.
Everyone one of these people i mentioned are live active toons that i talk to on a daily basis.
live active toons? v12 logged in maybe once a month. I still dont even remember ahriwen except her going emo about se hero once. and xithaj is cool :) but are u kidding with all those other ppl? does ica even siege as a single clan? or just bunch of brs thrown together in alliance with others? No matter how u wanna twist it the core people that made ICA pvp/epic/competition/oly oriented are gone. without people like them a clan does not compete. they jsut recruit lowbies not that there is nething wrong with that because clans like that are needed for people to progress in this game , but i wouldnt expect ppl to stick around for the long run.
ok so u have a bunch of lvl 40 BRS in ICA now great...
live active toons? v12 logged in maybe once a month. I still dont even remember ahriwen except her going emo about se hero once. and xithaj is cool :) but are u kidding with all those other ppl? does ica even siege as a single clan? or just bunch of brs thrown together in alliance with others? No matter how u wanna twist it the core people that made ICA pvp/epic/competition/oly oriented are gone. without people like them a clan does not compete. they jsut recruit lowbies not that there is nething wrong with that because clans like that are needed for people to progress in this game , but i wouldnt expect ppl to stick around for the long run.
Lol...lots of drama on most servers so Erica wasn't THAT special.
I didn't say that...
which one my drac set my soon to be ic set or my plated leather or s80 ? lols
gimme your drac!
Revenance is in game again and glad to see him active. I'm sorry to those who see him as a scammer, but I must reiterate that even when I was in his clan (halls of pantheon) we would raid toi bosses and others in one night--such was the extent of clan members back in the day as we old school players remember--That after the raids he'd dish out the spoils to those who needed it...
Still can understand it he joined our ranks a view months back and i must stay he is without a doubt the most wel behaved player ive seen in L2 period lol. He talks too everyone with respect and does his part whenever its needed. Seriously what is this freaking fuss about.
ps sorry Tan for hijacking ya thread for one post.
and <3 jodimae...if they eat ya just call in ya squad, we will protect our own!!^^
Still can understand it he joined our ranks a view months back and i must stay he is without a doubt the most wel behaved player ive seen in L2 period lol. He talks too everyone with respect and does his part whenever its needed. Seriously what is this freaking fuss about.
ps sorry Tan for hijacking ya thread for one post.
and <3 jodimae...if they eat ya just call in ya squad, we will protect our own!!^^
oh i duno just the face he was given full epics/ clan gear for olympiad on Bartz then dissapeared with all of it and somehow ended back up on Sayha w mass amount of the same gear few months after. Then after all that he try to reapp to clan on Pheonix w a dif toon and got denied for scamming the first time. belive wat u want , he did it to our clan. gl to u.
Yea rev such a nice guy until he dissapears on u one day with all of your gear on him lolol
On Sieghardt Revenant one day decided to disband his clan and close forums. I understand some basic mats from cwh were doled out to a few ppl but a lot of stuff was left unaccounted for. He also swore up and down about not being a botter even when vids were posted of him boating it up. "Strength and Honour" lol...
oh i duno just the face he was given full epics/ clan gear for olympiad on Bartz then dissapeared with all of it and somehow ended back up on Sayha w mass amount of the same gear few months after. Then after all that he try to reapp to clan on Pheonix w a dif toon and got denied for scamming the first time. belive wat u want , he did it to our clan. gl to u.
Yea rev such a nice guy until he dissapears on u one day with all of your gear on him lolol
I thought he left bartz because oba recalled MrSir from him? Or was that someone else?
I thought he left bartz because oba recalled MrSir from him? Or was that someone else?
But yes, this is ICA in name only.
Indeed we are far from ICA here.
Well sorry to disagree with your opinion, but actually in fact i am one of the originals from C3 InnerCircle.
Before Revenant, before monroe, before likely most people.
we have been called many names, nuthuggers and what-not.
the fact that we even draw your attention means that we mean something.
If ICA was only in name only, you wouldnt give us the time of day.
Therefore, your own attention to this thread means the
mere mention of ICA means something worthy of your notice.
kk thanks, class dismissed*
-Tanom
PS edit: Monroe: when ppl think of you, nobody thinks of First, or any of the other clans youve been in. they think of YOU.
when ppl think of me they think of ICA, which was around before RR was even on a server called Sayha.
RR has been around since prelude(or open beta?) on Erica, the clan remained intact when merging to Sayha, tho alot of members went to Bartz for a while but returned later.
Goodluck Tanom, I have always found you to be a very respectable guy and look forward to seeing you when I get back from Iraq. :)
Ahh no wonder i havent seen ya online katsu!!! When will you be back?
/end of hijjack thread
Yes I always found tanom to be a good guy, if only he had vent. Things would go alot smoother.
Respect too tanom too, he alteast kep too his oldclan and didnt leave it too die off. Most other people would not have dont that.
But in my opinion, you guys need too pic aside if you wana compete in end game content. I know getting ganked isnt fun, but whats the fun of being a high level and not have anything too protect...just my vision.
But enjoy the game as you see fit, that the most important part.
No offence but while for anyone that initially showed up in C3 may seem significant (or later obviously)
personally i don't think it is, ICA predates that significantly, and i've never had an issue with tanom, like i mentioned previously i've partied with him in the past and have been present in a number of activities over the course of the years with ICA....
I wish you guys the best in your recruiting efforts and reforming of ICA. This is what this topic is about. I apologize that it has been derailed by some that wish to discuss Revenant (AKA Revenance).
Second:
Revenant was on Bartz and moved there with Porthos and a number of other members. Due to work requirements (had to travel to Singapore for almost a year) the account was unfortunately scammed from me while overseas. I lost everything on that account and Porthos along with many others are fully aware of the facts.
Those that know me know my approach to the game there are countless individuals that know for a fact that I've never scammed anyone if anything I am faulted for being too trusting myself.
There are always three sides to any argument ladies and gentlemen.
Position 1
Position 2
and
Postion 3 the ultimate truth as decided by the individual digesting the information.
I would suggest that some fact finding from the individuals that assisted with NoSir be reviewed prior to that lable being assigned.
I wish the team of ICA the absolute best in their resurgance on the server, I trust that they will be successful in their clan goals and have some of the better people that I've known in the game among their ranks.
well like i said ica just a bunch of nuthuggers from what i have seen in game. because rr and allies are on top because it is easier for ica to get anything or anywhere i call that pathetic.
do not get me wrong joining top clan can have benefits. but joining a clan that can not get into the main stream = nuthugger. licking the scraps left for them. i mean really does ica even fight in wars. i mean declared or do you just hide behind the rr people ?
i am kinda curious how there war lists stack up to the real pvpers in RR/IS/PC, and do not give the kinda crap like oh we pvp when your clan does not even have wars up you expect others to start so you can jump in when convenient. just fyi that is bandwagoning for the slow people or other wise nuthugging when RR got it on lock down
well like i said ica just a bunch of nuthuggers from what i have seen in game. because rr and allies are on top because it is easier for ica to get anything or anywhere i call that pathetic.
do not get me wrong joining top clan can have benefits. but joining a clan that can not get into the main stream = nuthugger. licking the scraps left for them. i mean really does ica even fight in wars. i mean declared or do you just hide behind the rr people ?
i am kinda curious how there war lists stack up to the real pvpers in RR/IS/PC, and do not give the kinda crap like oh we pvp when your clan does not even have wars up you expect others to start so you can jump in when convenient. just fyi that is bandwagoning for the slow people or other wise nuthugging when RR got it on lock down
sorry sir but Ica never asked for our help , and anyways Cata never pvps Us unless Da is there so ?
just because we have common interests aligned doesnt mean we hug their nuts.
Its the other way around actually.
RR is hugging our nuts cuz to teabag the heads of DA/Deathwish with them.
Interesting note: ICA and RR have been "nuetral-friendly" even before Renovatio left the server.
And contrary to popular belief, we have actually had temporary periods of war with each other during that period. You must have a strange definition of what a nut-hugger is. StrippersByNight and Luckycharms each told me point blank that they cannot be in ICA alliance because of the flack they were recieving from Dragonadvocates. (LOL?!)
Furthermore, ICA's foes have been consistant.
a "Nut-hugger" is someone who follows the other around and fights whoever they fight.
Which is not the case with RR and ICA.
I can say that about the clans i mentioned tho. If DragonAdvocates/Deathwish want to find nuthuggers, i suggest they look between theyre own legs first.
ICA of today or that you are trying to rebuild wil never be like the real ICA who made a name for itself just like the catalyst of today can never be the clan Lianli had made it to be.
I am glad to see you wish to reform it but sorry to burst the bubble but today ICA is name only just like catalyst it ..as sad it it may sound to you is a simple fact.
both these clans and allies will never have the wars nor the people who were cba or acba back in the day nor the ICA Darkstorm days in wich I think the giran seige was the best ever on Seig.And the ICA who left ICA to join with tempest and make catalyst vs ICA rebuild by Porthios and Oba , vaxce, until the server transfer came .Most of both lef t to Bartz and it was the end of the ICA era.Or if you wish to say the great days of both ICA and Cata.Lot s of great fun and memories.All you got left is a clan hall and a name .
You need to remember that i was there through all those examples you posted.
Also you fail to realise i am ICA.
and that i dont wish to go backwards, but forwards.
I was in IC before you and I have been in this clan when it was at its greatest and at its very low point near disbanding. I have endured through it all.
All that have said that this clan is not the "real ICA" is missing the point.
This clan IS going forward, not backwards.
Say what you will, but as long as theres 1 person that holds to the idea of ICA then the "real ICA" endures. Everyone else has abandoned or turned their back to this.
Say what you will, but as long as theres 1 person that holds to the idea of ICA then the "real ICA" endures. Everyone else has abandoned or turned their back to this.
Not I, nor those that follow me.
/agreed and well said
and that counts for any clan out there that's being called 'left overs' or 'shadows' of what they used to be.