Chaotic Throne 3 News!!

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(c) EllieBelly (http://www2.elliebelly.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=17209#17209)

Here the first part of what was said at the press conference:

- The Korean PTS will be updated to "Freya" in the middle of January. It is planned to go live in February or March (which would be earlier than what was said at the G-Star Festival in Busan).

- The Frintezza raid will be converted to an instance.

- Three new varieties of 80+ armor and weapons will be added. It is not yet clear at which precise level they can be used.

- Vesper armor will become craftable.

- As announced before there will also be new Raid Bosses in this update.

- In 2010 the concept of "War between Countries" (Aden and Elmore?) will be introduced. Kwondoh thinks that the wording indicates that this might not yet be in the Freya update.

- In 2010 every castle can be via a specific system elevated to a special level.

- There will be 20 new skills in the next update, "Freya".

- When summoning a Servitor, Spirit Ore will be used. It looks as if Spirit Ore will then have no weight (kwondoh still has to double-check on the weight aspect).

- Questions about the level cap were not answered. More info about that is expected in the course of the next year.

- In 2010 you will be able to summon 2 Servitors and have whatever one-handed weapon in each hand, like for example in one hand a sword and in the other hand a blunt weapon.

- Because blunt weapons have a good accuracy, their crit rate will not be adjusted (OIOFJI, being a Dwarf, regrets this very much).



Grats to all.. Game is Dead...
Frint being turned into an instance is beyond stupid.
Frint being turned into an instance is beyond stupid.

it's pretty much ok... but up to 3 elements per item??? too many owerpowers...
it's pretty much ok... but up to 3 elements per item??? too many owerpowers...

Yes, that is just ridiculous. If you have enough money, you can become pretty much invincible (insane resists to everything, on a 5 piece armor set 5x3x120=1800 resist points) and can put 3 different elements at 300 on every weapon. That's just bull. On the other hand, of course "normal" players without access to crystals can just fill all their armor pieces up with normal stones and get halfway decent resists.
In near future they are gonna make all epic bosses as instance..


But unbelievable point is that all classes can use 2 weapons same time..

Can u imagine Magics with 2 magic weapons ACUMEN??

or can u imagine daggers with 2 critical damage daggers??

all other classes like archers, gladiator, destroyer, tyrant are dead..

after this update all classes will become very weak, but daggers and magics will become much more powerful..

i dont wanna imagine how powerful they will be...



moreover I heard that they will raise sub class and main class levels but dunno how much... and there will be more than 3 slots for sub classes.. [ heard but dont know how much official it is..]
eh, not necessarily, Jayza; remember that totems might require fists to use, but the effects stack when wearing other weapons. a tyrant with dual daggers in say Hawk, would still benefit from wielding two daggers (just means being unable to cast Force skills).

same with Glad

archers are just lol with that though.

Destro - maybe not so much, after all 1hand swords do have health SA... so 2 x 1hand swords = still pretty pvp ubar.

i'd think though that the classes that benefit most from this would be buffers who Melee for level (PP, WC, OL) as they can get Acumen and Focus (acu+haste, Health+acu, etc etc) at the same time, and not sacrifice anything.

but you are right - this does pose a problem for Acumen+acumen, however also remember that Dynasty Phantoms are a bit more rare than arcanamace. and nobody likes Arcana. between 61 and 80 the only magic sword is top A.

yes, i know its a moot point given so many are over 80 - but it doesnt change the desire for everyone to have magic swords.

i hope theyre also giving us 100x exp for a week. this update would put weekend warriors so far behind the balance of power its unfathomable.
double post, delete.
Spudnik,

In the last few updates they made magics and daggers overpowered.. and with this update they are gonna make them triple overpowered..


And I forgot Soul Hound Case... Just Imagine Soul Hound in one hand RAPIER in another hand MAGIC BLuNT Acumen... Can any1 defeat him? NO!!!!
Spudnik,

In the last few updates they made magics and daggers overpowered.. and with this update they are gonna make them triple overpowered..


And I forgot Soul Hound Case... Just Imagine Soul Hound in one hand RAPIER in another hand MAGIC BLuNT Acumen... Can any1 defeat him? NO!!!!

you'd be right if they suddenly made Kamaels able to use skills with blunts or non-rapier weapons.

and since this double wielding thing would kind of constrict Kamael to two rapiers (while both other Kamael are screwed) i'm not too worried about the blunt-acumen thing.
Ye i can summon 2 servitors :), but why they replace crystal by spirit ore?? , i am fine with crystal system
- When summoning a Servitor, Spirit Ore will be used. It looks as if Spirit Ore will then have no weight (kwondoh still has to double-check on the weight aspect).

- In 2010 you will be able to summon 2 Servitors and have whatever one-handed weapon in each hand, like for example in one hand a sword and in the other hand a blunt weapon.



MMMMMMMmmmmm Gandalf time i need a good lookin 1h blunt and sword ;)
just w8 i dont believe anything that other sites or even NCSOFT says about updates until i see them in pts or at our servers ^^

dont be so dramatic

u think that other classes that cant equiped 1 handed weapons gona not be updated to defend their self from these "uber as u call update"

just lol xD
Lol...i'm still trying to figure out how to get Base Mats from the Bots...so i can craft stuff cause i can't afford to buy crap
Its official news ot L2 developers..

moreover there will be armor augmentation which means that no gear drops @ PK...

as this news are official they are gonna happy in the next or after next update..
if u have 200m adena up to u or 1000 qhp or 5 element stones or something values in your inventory u still gona free pk even if u have full augment set ?

to pk someone u need potions that cost money , u need carry adena otherwise the pk thing gone turn back to the pker xD cause someone with even empty iventory = deadbody and lose exp


as i told u before dont be so dramatic

there is not such a thing like a FREE pk atleast for l2 xD
1. Karma catchers never get valuable items in their inventory.. they always store them in warehouse..
2. who cares about killing person even if you dont know and making enemy for 20-30 potions?
awnsers :

1st part not 100%

2nd with 20-30 potion u r ok if u r at b and a grade for s and s80 u r just lol
these updates all sound fine except for this dual weapon holding ..
Can we have some strumfs too?
I don't know but maybe dual thing will be only for summoners :P, still that is a rough info of what we will get. Not neccessarily all true, things can be changed
Yea, we have to wait and see what this actually means, atlast when they give out more info.

Perhaps the 2 weapons is the same as with duals you combine them and they have one SA and one elemental?
:p let me think about already existing dual daggers system ... Are ..

I think they will use same stuff with blunt + sword ... or developp something to make exclusions in both use ...

seing hability of summoning 2 pets is pretty great :) summonnners become at least true ones !!!!

making all RB as instances is pretty letting some chace to everyone well organize to get epic jewels ...

Why is this that bad ? do you all, ubber clans that lock territories and epic bosses, fear something from insignificant neutral clans ?

don't complains on thinks we do not test at all ....

we will have time to se all of that when we will get this PTS in korea ...
Dont think it's really the part that more people get a chance on a epic ,but they will miss out on the mass pvp that will happen when you camp them.
Dont think it's really the part that more people get a chance on a epic ,but they will miss out on the mass pvp that will happen when you camp them.

sad story
Spudnik,

In the last few updates they made magics and daggers overpowered.. and with this update they are gonna make them triple overpowered..


And I forgot Soul Hound Case... Just Imagine Soul Hound in one hand RAPIER in another hand MAGIC BLuNT Acumen... Can any1 defeat him? NO!!!!

Can you maybe shut up for a while? Your whinning about a Patch you have NO CLUE how it will work out with make me sick.
Stop blaming top clans for your inadequacy, you're inadequate because you choose to be.
This is not CT3. It has been stated that this will still be part of Gracia (CT2).



P.S.: Wonder what NC West will call it here since they already screwed themselves up when they re-named Gracia Plus to "Epilogue"
Dont think it's really the part that more people get a chance on a epic ,but they will miss out on the mass pvp that will happen when you camp them.



Nicely put
Spudnik,

In the last few updates they made magics and daggers overpowered.. and with this update they are gonna make them triple overpowered..




Hello??????????????

mages got overpowered?????????

i guess thats the reason everyone rolled on dagger and tank.

Seriously for next update im waiting 80+ true nuker spells(not cinematic stars fall ) a p/def boost and cp boost.
Cause if a melee hits a nuker with dual weapons+300 poor nuker will be 1shot.
Can you maybe shut up for a while? Your whinning about a Patch you have NO CLUE how it will work out with make me sick.


it will be good if you SHUT UP and LEAVE THE FORUM...

You are already SICK....
just w8 i dont believe anything that other sites or even NCSOFT says about updates until i see them in PTS or at our servers ^^




agreed :D
Someone explain how the whole "Mages will be able to cast two different spells at the same time, using both hands" is going to work.
omg people stop whining, you don't even know how is all of this going to work!

to me it sounds cryptic at best, in fact most of it makes no sense at all without further explaination and testing.

you can speculate all you want but the reality is that you probably won't yet be able to guess correctly how it's going to be (or is) actually implemented.
Someone explain how the whole "Mages will be able to cast two different spells at the same time, using both hands" is going to work.

If you are storm screamer, you cast hurricane and deathspike in same time :p
if ideas like 3 att and double guns will be implemented...
...ill quit cuz i dont want to play star wars sorry but no
l2 is going the wrong way
Fine with me, as long as current dual users get to use 4 weapons :p
(c) EllieBelly (http://www2.elliebelly.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=17209#17209)

Here the first part of what was said at the press conference:

- The Korean PTS will be updated to "Freya" in the middle of January. It is planned to go live in February or March (which would be earlier than what was said at the G-Star Festival in Busan).

- The Frintezza raid will be converted to an instance. SADFACE

- Three new varieties of 80+ armor and weapons will be added. It is not yet clear at which precise level they can be used.

- Vesper armor will become craftable. SADFACE

- As announced before there will also be new Raid Bosses in this update.

- In 2010 the concept of "War between Countries" (Aden and Elmore?) will be introduced. Kwondoh thinks that the wording indicates that this might not yet be in the Freya update.

- In 2010 every castle can be via a specific system elevated to a special level.

- There will be 20 new skills in the next update, "Freya". SADFACE-they'll prob all be ******ed and/or useless

- When summoning a Servitor, Spirit Ore will be used. It looks as if Spirit Ore will then have no weight (kwondoh still has to double-check on the weight aspect).

- Questions about the level cap were not answered. More info about that is expected in the course of the next year.

- In 2010 you will be able to summon 2 Servitors and have whatever one-handed weapon in each hand, like for example in one hand a sword and in the other hand a blunt weapon. SADFACE

- Because blunt weapons have a good accuracy, their crit rate will not be adjusted (OIOFJI, being a Dwarf, regrets this very much). lol dorfs.....

If that all gets implemented then L2 is going to die really fast, ncstupid might as well merge all of the servers into 1 NA and 1 Euro while they're at it.

And screw 4 weapons, i want dual lightsaberssssss
Yea, if any of this is true it screws a lot up. But again its not set in stone and we don't really know much about it. So I don't see why everyone is freaking out about something we don't even know for sure about. As far as I know this stuff isn't in NCKorea or any other L2 server, so we don't know how the next updates will really be.
Here first the hunting groundsin the Freya chronicle.


In the Steel Citadel, Ranku and the Demon Prince will be converted into instanced dungeons.finally...
Frintezza will be converted into an instanced dungeon too, to the great joy of many users who had so far no access to this Epic Boss.yes yes yes !

The exp that Servitors take from a Summoner will be reduced.
More than 20 class-specific skills will be added, as well as 5 Special Skills that have to do with a newly introduced Awareness System for learning those class-specific skills.
Tanks will be given attack-strengthening buffs they can bestow on party members andThe Vanguard skills of Tanks will be improved.


Antharas, Valakas and Zaken are scheduled to be reworked, a high-level Zaken will be added.

For all Raid Bosses the possibility to level Soul Crystals with a certain probability has been added.
A high-level Labyrinth will be added.

The looting when hunting in a party will possibly be changed

The number of quests a character can engage in at the same time will be raised from 25 to 40.
The duration of the 3rd Class Change Quest will be cut in half
The Plains of the Lizardmen will be converted into an Archer hunting ground.Yet to see if they be better then the mithrill mines...

Skyshadow Meadow will be renamed into "Training Field of Power", the monsters there will be modified. It looks like this will be a hunting ground for Polers.hopefully like giants cave now is no levle mentionned tho
Someone explain how the whole "Mages will be able to cast two different spells at the same time, using both hands" is going to work.

By learning the skill awareness a nuker can cast 2 spells on same time
so i guess it will be a combo spell,like combo buffs.

Rest to see is if they'll add new spells,since each nuker has a main spell attributed and some that are non-attributed or other attribute(exept from necro that both nukes are dark)
Or it could be a combo slug+spell..........
3 Element is for armor only , not the weapon.
2 summons? Could be interesting. And reduced exp lose from summon...big deal.
If you are storm screamer, you cast hurricane and deathspike in same time :p

O yeah can you feel the deflected magic?
O yeah can you feel the deflected magic?
Oh yeah, can you feel the two magic crits?
Oh yeah, can you feel the two magic crits?


Cant even imagine :mad: 1 nuke and even tank is dead..
they must give sorcs 2nd attribute nuke then, perhaps earth based.
I sure hope for the sake of Lineage, that list is fake.
It's like with each passing update, they are removing more and more aspects of PvP that make this game fun. Turning Epic's into instances is one of the dumbest things they can do to this game... Zaken wasn't that big of a deal considering it was mostly farmed by farmers, but turning Frintezza, which is pretty much brings almost guaranteed Mass PvP on contested servers every 2 days into an instance would be a huge mistake. NcSoft needs to stop moving in the direction of instances, it's getting ridiculous now.

Some of the most obvious changes that need to be made, they keep ignoring. Like Seed of Destruction for example... They either need to turn it into a high level XP area (80+) that drops crystals from mobs, or heck, add a quest in which once you are in a command channel that defeats Tiat, you earn a badge which grants you access to Seed of Destruction to farm crystals. The way it is now is just stupid.

Also, they need to figure out what the heck they want to do with these Epic Bosses when you DC in the chambers... Antharas/Baium if you DC/Crash you can log back in, but Valakas/Frintezza your placed back in town? Not sure why that hasn't been fixed as of yet.

Fix territory wars where either wards cannot be brought into town. Fix it to where if a ward is brought into town, the flag gets sent back to where it was last picked up.

Can we focus on fixing what we have, and what frustrates the current community before we start considering adding more and more content?
It's like with each passing update, they are removing more and more aspects of PvP that make this game fun. Turning Epic's into instances is one of the dumbest things they can do to this game... Zaken wasn't that big of a deal considering it was mostly farmed by farmers, but turning Frintezza, which is pretty much brings almost guaranteed Mass PvP on contested servers every 2 days into an instance would be a huge mistake. NcSoft needs to stop moving in the direction of instances, it's getting ridiculous now.

Some of the most obvious changes that need to be made, they keep ignoring. Like Seed of Destruction for example... They either need to turn it into a high level XP area (80+) that drops crystals from mobs, or heck, add a quest in which once you are in a command channel that defeats Tiat, you earn a badge which grants you access to Seed of Destruction to farm crystals. The way it is now is just stupid.

Also, they need to figure out what the heck they want to do with these Epic Bosses when you DC in the chambers... Antharas/Baium if you DC/Crash you can log back in, but Valakas/Frintezza your placed back in town? Not sure why that hasn't been fixed as of yet.

Fix territory wars where either wards cannot be brought into town. Fix it to where if a ward is brought into town, the flag gets sent back to where it was last picked up.

Can we focus on fixing what we have, and what frustrates the current community before we start considering adding more and more content?
+1
It's like with each passing update, they are removing more and more aspects of PvP that make this game fun.


Yeah,well when someone is afk exp 25/8,and gets behind his PC screen for half hour,to restock his bots,always find time to make 1-2 shouts like "lf enemies"...so strong,and then goes back to sleep.
After I read a post on elliebelly discussing how the Korean Players base is this changes is not that weird. The majority of the players there dont enjoy pvp as much as the actuall "grinding"
absolutely useless for dwarves! **** it
It's like with each passing update, they are removing more and more aspects of PvP that make this game fun. Turning Epic's into instances is one of the dumbest things they can do to this game... Zaken wasn't that big of a deal considering it was mostly farmed by farmers, but turning Frintezza, which is pretty much brings almost guaranteed Mass PvP on contested servers every 2 days into an instance would be a huge mistake. NcSoft needs to stop moving in the direction of instances, it's getting ridiculous now.

Some of the most obvious changes that need to be made, they keep ignoring. Like Seed of Destruction for example... They either need to turn it into a high level XP area (80+) that drops crystals from mobs, or heck, add a quest in which once you are in a command channel that defeats Tiat, you earn a badge which grants you access to Seed of Destruction to farm crystals. The way it is now is just stupid.

Also, they need to figure out what the heck they want to do with these Epic Bosses when you DC in the chambers... Antharas/Baium if you DC/Crash you can log back in, but Valakas/Frintezza your placed back in town? Not sure why that hasn't been fixed as of yet.

Fix territory wars where either wards cannot be brought into town. Fix it to where if a ward is brought into town, the flag gets sent back to where it was last picked up.

Can we focus on fixing what we have, and what frustrates the current community before we start considering adding more and more content?

While I wholeheartedly agree with you, NCsoft doesn't care about you me or NA players' views of what's fun in game. They care about Koreans' views and what problems they see in their L2 experience.
After I read a post on elliebelly discussing how the Korean Players base is this changes is not that weird. The majority of the players there dont enjoy pvp as much as the actuall "grinding"

Yup.. that exactly what koreans do.. they dont PVP.. even you cant find normal PVP videos in korean server.. what they do only take parties and go to the Raids.. Believe me they dont even go to PVP for epic bosses..
Like this:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8080/doublecast.jpg

Get it now?

In a click based game, no.

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Originally Posted by KnightOfDarkness
Someone explain how the whole "Mages will be able to cast two different spells at the same time, using both hands" is going to work.
By learning the skill awareness a nuker can cast 2 spells on same time
so i guess it will be a combo spell,like combo buffs.

Rest to see is if they'll add new spells,since each nuker has a main spell attributed and some that are non-attributed or other attribute(exept from necro that both nukes are dark)
Or it could be a combo slug+spell..........

Ok that makes more sense. But Jeez Imagine how off base classes will be.

Nukers casting double nukes with spellhowlers with a guaranteed one shotting. Or just imagine necromancers with two summons with transfer pain casting deathspike and vampiric claw at the same time.

Also... if summoners are going to have two summons, how will transfer pain work? does that involve hybrids? necromancer, warsmith? Knowing dark avengers and pheonix knights can't dual summon off the back unless the could summon a servitor and a pet at the same time.

Also how will transfer pain work?? And how would a lowly class like a prophet feel about facing 3 targets in the olympaid when the summoner alone, or phantom summoner, with just a nuke augmented weapon is good enough to kill the prophet.

The only thing I see here is if transfer pain does work for two summons for the summoner, Warlords are going to be their counter I guess, get all 3 together, aoe stun and aoe the mess out of the summoner with he summons dieing faster than ever.
Guess i should just start rerolling a summoner now =/
After I read a post on elliebelly discussing how the Korean Players base is this changes is not that weird. The majority of the players there dont enjoy pvp as much as the actuall "grinding"

Koreans play verry diffirently then us
they play "live" and "technically" and most off all "respectfully"...
diffirent culture

this reflects in the game updates
this is made to be player friendly, so EVERYONE can enjoy Frintezza and Zaken
and not just the cough-cough "top players" u know wich type i talk of
them that are more afk then actually playing...

Grind is 90 % of the game pvp just 10 %

u want a pvp game, go to city of heroes or aion and even aion is more
like a 70 % grind and 30 % pvp

this is not a pretty version of counterstrike like manny think
but a true grind to the bone game

everything is going to evolve into a 7 man party instance
not even 9 man

focus is going to small groups from 5 to full group, so everyone
can enjoy this game whitout having to wait 5 hours for
all the asked 20 clanmembers to log on... need steady groups or party's
people u can count on

its a waste of time to wait
no one likes to wait
its easier to do things in small groups
so they evolve the game into that direction
simple...
absolutely useless for dwarves! **** it

Dount dwarves and necromancers will get it,tanks either
we're not real summoners
just imagine necromancers with two summons with transfer pain casting deathspike and vampiric claw at the same time.



yes yes yes !!!!!! :)
yes yes yes !!!!!! :)

still not sure if necromancers and co will get it :D they are fake summoner!
still not sure if necromancers and co will get it :D they are fake summoner!

It would suck if they couldn't doublecast or doublesummon, or even have two weapons.. or got a % reduction in summon xp... it would suck even worse if instead, due to double cast, all magic is reduced 25% in damage, then necromancers would just suck.
still not sure if necromancers and co will get it :D they are fake summoner!

Heheheeeeee <----- 3 real summons here so im in for goodies :)
still not sure if necromancers and co will get it :D they are fake summoner!

DA's got the short end of the stick on this summoner thing.
DA's got the short end of the stick on this summoner thing.

tyrant's not getting much love this update either.
tyrant's not getting much love this update either.

well, being king it means theyve made life vs tyrants easier. imo.

but you bring up a good point, KOD. tyrants dont appear to get anything, meanwhile, Glads have skills for duals - will they count if youre not technically wielding dualsowrds, but two swords or blunt combo?

time will tell...
We need bd/sws love!!
****, thats weird update
well, being king it means theyve made life vs tyrants easier. imo.

but you bring up a good point, KOD. tyrants dont appear to get anything, meanwhile, Glads have skills for duals - will they count if youre not technically wielding dualsowrds, but two swords or blunt combo?

time will tell...

Well.. all my characters are getting screwed over.
It just ticks me off that from what ive heard they wont be having the champions of champions Server Oly competition on NC West, just like the battle tournaments & Dim. Merchants they really hate us. :P
what ticks ME of, is that they make life to dwarves harder and harder...
I own summoners at oly now np, but if they have 2+ summons to fight with? - ****....
Im not sure how this will work as a summoner; It may change the way summoners buff/Heal cause atm its just click and no target buffing. With two pets we will have to target to buff/Heal/Cure unless we get the WC buffing method of all our pets at once and double healing/curing.
Anyone actually seen a screenshot of a summoner with 2 pets?

Or could it be, more logically, that they are giving pure summoners the ability to have a sin eater/rudolph while having pet out?
Anyone actually seen a screenshot of a summoner with 2 pets?

Or could it be, more logically, that they are giving pure summoners the ability to have a sin eater/rudolph while having pet out?

Yes i saw a screenshot, elven lady has poney and cat in same time, so xenthous will have poney and cat in same time :D

In another screenshot i saw storm screamer have 2 fireballs, white fireball in left hand and black fireball in right hand :)

Screenshot are from elliebelly :)
Yes i saw a screenshot, elven lady has poney and cat in same time, so xenthous will have poney and cat in same time :D

In another screenshot i saw storm screamer have 2 fireballs, white fireball in left hand and black fireball in right hand :)

Screenshot are from elliebelly :)

thats not screenshots thats concept art.
thats not screenshots thats concept art.

I know, but often concept art can be truth later :)

Maybe they will not keep all their promises, but if they are able to gave invisible skill to dagger, they are able to give to summoner 2 summons and nuker hurricane/deathspike combo :)
btw I watched the litle trailer on monsters outside Oren they dont look very lineage'y <--( is that a word ? )
btw I watched the litle trailer on monsters outside Oren they dont look very lineage'y <--( is that a word ? )

because in the next update they are gonna change some zones name and mobs.. and skyshadow meadow (outside of oren) will be changed for warlords solo zones. and so mobs will be changed...
It just ticks me off that from what ive heard they wont be having the champions of champions Server Oly competition on NC West, just like the battle tournaments & Dim. Merchants they really hate us. :P

I remember when they first revealed the fortresses. They said they would be the portals to the other servers and we would be having intraserver wars. That was really exciting to me. Too bad the idea never came into being.
I remember when i was little that I was too short to reach the bathroom sink so I would stand on the side of the toilet but one day my foot slipped and I fell in the toilet. I guess I should have put the toilet seat down first.
Nice las vegas, so do your town is fun like people say ?? :)
btw I watched the litle trailer on monsters outside Oren they dont look very lineage'y <--( is that a word ? )

The pictures from the press conference are all a bit off color-wise, maybe intentionally to make them useless for shady fansites. Xiang, our image expert, has in the meantime desaturated the blue, which makes the armor much less candy colored and more like Clan Oath Academy armor. After all, that's a military training field for recruits. When you look at the knees of the drill sergeant you will see that those monsters are probably Ol Mahum:
http://www2.elliebelly.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1067&start=150

By the way, in German we have a perfect equivalent for the Sino-Korean expression gyo-jang resp. jiao-chang - Truppenübungsplatz. If anybody knows a better, suitably bureaucratic sounding English word for "Training Field", please post it here :)
Nice las vegas, so do your town is fun like people say ?? :)

They don't call it "Lost Wages" for nothing" :D