I was hunting on Primeval Island near trex few minutes ago and i died 2 times hiting multiple mobs.I checked system message,i saw i was doing 15-28 damage on mobs fully buffed,regular damage is 3000.This happened in all my hits both times.Since i xp there about 1 year and i didnt notice ever making a fail, 20 fails are way too much to accept them as normal.I made screenshots.
Ofc i cant continue xp,is like i try to solo a raid!
I did petition and i was waiting for an answer,i got disconnected before getting an answer.Sace pls check and tell me whats wrong.
I relog and did another petition who was canceled by system :/
I'm hiting regular mobs on Primeval,my normal hits are 3000+dmg to them,i xp there over 1 year,never had fails,so 20 hits for 10 dmg is somthing that need to be checked,i simply cant xp.
Also my se 80lvl fully buffed was hitted by a velociptarus and took 2900dmg when normal dmg from mob is 130
My se was also hit by a mob at hot spring some nights ago and took 4800 dmg,a raid would hit her for less.....
Another problem we just noticed is that wc in my party cant regenarate his mp hitting npc.
Normal reg is 30mp by hit and he's having 2mp by hit
he did have some 30 mp by hit,then again he's having 2 mp by hit.
So game is in serious problem Sace pls look at this!
I tried to hunt single targeting after 1 hour and i noticed more fails,doing 0 dmg,10 dmg.
it happened me 2-3 times.. While I was hunting outside of goddart with my necro.. dragon hit me with 6k.. its impossible for lvl 68-69 mob to hit lvl 65 necro in avadon robe set for 6k dmg..
1 - Did you have your weapon equipped?
2 - Shots on?
3 - When you were hit, did you have your armor on, jewelry, etc.
I will have to check it out tonight to see if I get the same results.
Also, what server you on?
I am in Frantz.
83lvl necro on dynasty set icarus hall ac s80 jewles/epics/ rare arcana shield/weapon equiped/shots on buffed from wc+se+pow.
I use to make trains around trex for some months,so its a routine thing for me to xp there.
Tonight i made about 10 fails one after another,so i died from grouped mobs,i continued for about 30' normally and then i had another 10 fails and died again.I was doing 28-35 dmg to mobs when my regular hit is 3k-4k.
Some times i get interrupted in nukes,but i watch my toon while hiting,i could see my toon hiting the mobs and not making damage.
Also my se got 2901 damage from 1 hit of velociptarus,and she was also fully geared and buffed.(someone also explain to me how my se died by a mob at hotspring which i was hiting with my 60+ gladi sub and mob made mass damage and oneshooted 80lvl se who was behind me with 4900 damage).
I made petition and waited about 2 hours on beach for a gm to respond,i had a respond telling me to rr game check files and if same thing happens to petition again.I did that and went to test if i nuke normaly hiting single mobs.I still had fails,so i kept nuking 1 mob after another to count how often i failed(and not to die).It was like 1 fail every 10-20 hits,which is non acceptable to happen in green mobs.My fails on that place used to be like 1 fail in 1-2 days or so.
I made another petition,didnt got an answer and wondered if frintezza had to do something with that.From the screen shots i took i can see the hits from frintezza,15 dmg-25 dmg and mobs hiting me for 130 damage.I thought to test if something goes wrong when i hit grouped mobs together,so i started making small trains and i had like before 1 fail or resist(like halph damage =1500dmg) every 20 hits.Then i made much more fails on 1 train and died again.........
Another brez,continue to hit single targets and i started to make less fails(1 dmg),about 2 hours later i was not doing any fails.
During these hours i was the only nuker that was hunting on that area.
I xp there with same gear for a longtime,never had issues.
Sound like something went wrong server side. You should petition through the web site, not in game. The in game petitions never get you anywhere useful. Also, I'd ask for the lost xp back if that happened to me.
also, in game petition is limited to only a single phrase... what is the character limit? like 15? the web petition system allows for a lot more information to be sent.
I was doing 28-35 dmg to mobs when my regular hit is 3k-4k.
Could it be that the mobs got some kind of UD?
Because 28-35 dmg looks like the dmg a nuker could do to a UD'ed mob, while failed nukes always do either 0 or 1 damage (2-3 dmg if you fail on a magic crit).
The only weird thing that happened to me in Dino was that spiritshots stopped working so I only did half the damage. I heard it used to be a common issue on heavily populated/lagged servers such as Teon, but it never happened to me before (on Gustin/Phoenix), and it happened only when I hunted on Dino island.
Because 28-35 dmg looks like the dmg a nuker could do to a UD'ed mob, while failed nukes always do either 0 or 1 damage (2-3 dmg if you fail on a magic crit).
Yeah; perhaps a screenshot of the status window when you're hitting the mobs may shed some light.
i was aoeing last night and this raid boss Dorian kept popping out of my mobs and i was plowing his face and getting like 3mil off him each time no raid curse MON NOM MON EXP
I dont know what im doing wrong but i cant upload ss
Gm contacted me in email and i did sent him ss
I remember about 3 years ago on Devianne a s grader sts started hiting me,we had about same lvl/gear,he did me 6-7 hits for 2 dmg..3 dmg..2 dmg..5 dmg...
he was asking me after why he cant nuke me?I could think he had back luck and did all fails together,but making fails for 3 hours,thats another story.
On ss im making 5 dmg..2dmg...5 dmg.....
on other ss im making 25 dmg..15 dmg....this could be the frintezza's reflect since mobs were hiting me for 130 damage
on other ss im making 25 dmg..15 dmg....this could be the frintezza's reflect since mobs were hiting me for 130 damage
Ok now this makes more sense... reflect damage, I see.
So, what was the actual damage of your nukes? Was it every time like this -
You use Death Spike.
**** has given Pachycephalosaurus damage of 5
or maybe at that given moment there was no damage messages related to your nukes at all (and in the logs there was reflected dmg only), which means you lagged out and naturally died (since your outgoing packets got delayed for too long and the server got no info of your nukes).
Ok now this makes more sense... reflect damage, I see.
So, what was the actual damage of your nukes? Was it every time like this -
You use Death Spike.
**** has given Pachycephalosaurus damage of 5
or maybe at that given moment there was no damage messages related to your nukes at all (and in the logs there was reflected dmg only), which means you lagged out and naturally died (since your outgoing packets got delayed for too long and the server got no info of your nukes).
It could be like this,since ive scrolled up system and looked all my damages after i died.I thought maybe it was lag first time i died,maybe my mass nuke didnt land cause of lag,but when this happened twice and i didnt notice my toon to ''freeze'' in screen,i checked carefully.
I saw 2 regular damages like 3-4k,after dmg was 3-5-15-3-.....it was like i wasnt nuking at all
but as i watched my toon she was casting the spells so some of these number should be nukes dmg numbers.When i get interrupted i see toon been hitted by mobs and not casting.I'm pretty sure she was not interrupted in all nukes,i make trains about 1 year on dino its routine for me.So no dmg messages at all even i was nuking?
Also,i single shoted mobs after petitioning to check damage for sure(checked the moment i hit,the number of dmg,the moment mob hits me,mobs dmg,reflect dmg).
Still i was having many fails,like my first hit was 1 dmg or 3 dmg,then i had regular hits and fails.It was like 1 failed every 10-15 hits.
No - no bug. There is no message there that tells me the OP has even attempted to attack. All that shows me is that someone with a damage shield is being hit.
"You use [insert skill]"
"[Character] has given [NPC] damage of 1234"
That is what you should see when using mage skills, which based on your screenshot is what your character will be using.
This ss was taken when i started single target-kill mob by mob so i can watch system messages .
I use main nuke keeping pressed f1 button.So i get message invalid target when mob is killed.
I take damage from mob then you see i make 5 dmg and then invalid target,that means mob was killed so this was my last hit.
Then another mob hits me for 158 dmg and my hits are 5 dmg..this is not a reflect dmg since i was nuking mob,these are fails.
Im very experienced hunting on dino,so i wouldnt get confused with any frintezza's reflect damage-i was always wearing fz on dino-,fact is that on that night i couldnt nuke mobs,was like if they had ud on,or if like my nukes were all fails,i was hitting a mob spell after spell watching his hp and hp was not going down and system message was 3 dmg.
In this pic you can see vampiric clawd used...but no dmg at all.
Also after vampiric (f2 key)i use at once deathspike(f1) but its not written.I was watching my toon making all spells(not laged/frozen)but nukes arent there!
Is anyone else in your clan having this problem - check with the toons in the cats to see if they are having the same problem?
Noone else had this problem i did shout in clan chat and i faced it only during the specific ht through 20.00-24.00
never happened to me before and im nuking correctly since then.
But i died 3 times,my se 1 time,i lost all ht waiting for a gm to answer and i would like to find out what happened and ofc prevent it of re-happening.My toon was complenlty unable of hunting during this episode.
if this happened to you last night, then its reasonable, cause i was playing 2 hrs on my melle classes and i did notice that my Soulshots were turning off by itself, and i was getting too much of damage that my healer could not keep up with it, thank god i have 4 ppl in a group and we killed all mobs even before they could deal great damage, but i did find it very strange that my SE would run out MP much quicker then any other day, so I belive it was a glitch in the system last ht and that server was feeling sick from all the bots haha, so i hope NCsoft drove the server to the HOSPITAL and it will work ok when i come home from work :P
I was hunting on Primeval Island near trex few minutes ago and i died 2 times hiting multiple mobs.I checked system message,i saw i was doing 15-28 damage on mobs fully buffed,regular damage is 3000.This happened in all my hits both times.Since i xp there about 1 year and i didnt notice ever making a fail, 20 fails are way too much to accept them as normal.I made screenshots.
Ofc i cant continue xp,is like i try to solo a raid!
I did petition and i was waiting for an answer,i got disconnected before getting an answer.Sace pls check and tell me whats wrong.
I relog and did another petition who was canceled by system :/
if this happened to you last night, then its reasonable, cause i was playing 2 hrs on my melle classes and i did notice that my Soulshots were turning off by itself, and i was getting too much of damage that my healer could not keep up with it, thank god i have 4 ppl in a group and we killed all mobs even before they could deal great damage, but i did find it very strange that my SE would run out MP much quicker then any other day, so I belive it was a glitch in the system last ht and that server was feeling sick from all the bots haha, so i hope NCsoft drove the server to the HOSPITAL and it will work ok when i come home from work :P
Boo ya atarth --- its time for a little break :P
Thank you for posting,here's first prove that game wasnt working right for some hours.If i get a gm's explanation ill post it here.
131 damage x .25 (25% reflect) = 32.75 (damage you did to them)
46 x .25 = 11.5 , again.. damage you did to the mob.
Why does it say you use vamp claw and it did nothing?
1- Your nuke got interrupted, that's a lot of mobs and raptors hit fast and hard.
2- You died before the nuke was cast.
Protip: try pulling less mobs.
Also, for your first screen shot.. im pretty sure you just meleed the mobs, it doesn't say 'you have casted anything', so you didn't even try to get a nuke off.
Simple solution people!
Oh, and new nuker dino hasnt even been out for a year, try a few months max.
131 damage x .25 (25% reflect) = 32.75 (damage you did to them)
46 x .25 = 11.5 , again.. Damage you did to the mob.
Why does it say you use vamp claw and it did nothing?
1- your nuke got interrupted, that's a lot of mobs and raptors hit fast and hard.
2- you died before the nuke was cast.
Protip: Try pulling less mobs.
Also, for your first screen shot.. Im pretty sure you just meleed the mobs, it doesn't say 'you have casted anything', so you didn't even try to get a nuke off.
Simple solution people!
Oh, and new nuker dino hasnt even been out for a year, try a few months max.
131 damage x .25 (25% reflect) = 32.75 (damage you did to them)
46 x .25 = 11.5 , again.. damage you did to the mob.
Why does it say you use vamp claw and it did nothing?
1- Your nuke got interrupted, that's a lot of mobs and raptors hit fast and hard.
2- You died before the nuke was cast.
Protip: try pulling less mobs.
Also, for your first screen shot.. im pretty sure you just meleed the mobs, it doesn't say 'you have casted anything', so you didn't even try to get a nuke off.
Simple solution people!
Oh, and new nuker dino hasnt even been out for a year, try a few months max.
p.s. purp - reddit or digg?
In this pic yes you see the reflect dmg of buff+fz
but it was taken the first time ive died and i was scrolling up the system to see what went wrong...too many numbers there,no regular dmg but all low numbers like this,i found a spot were i could see one of my nukes and i did screenshot on it.If your theory about interrupt is right then i had about 1 thousand of interrupts that night...
Now,i do hunt in dino since i was 78( in party) and over a year solo,i was aoe there before this update and i was propably the only nuker who was doing it(some times with a domi,or cardi and some times with full nuker 'sparty in the middle of dino pulling everything).The only time i die there is when i have a lag e.But i see when im having lag e,i see the delay on screen,that night i had no delays.I'm experienced in aoe since i was doing it with bd+healer at fog and im doing it solo pulling all mobs around a lake at fields of silence/whispers.
I always will get at least 1 interripupt every 1h when groups of mobs hit me,but not more often,rare arcana shield works very well.I always watch close my toon,i see the moment i get the interrupt,that night i should had like a thousand of interrupts which i didnt see??No,i was watching my toon.On second pic you can see im in party with someone,we duo hunt weekly in that spot,after 30' of failing he left cause he didnt know what else to do,i simply couldnt nuke.
I took the first pic later after he left,i have no wc buffs on and im casting 1 hit after 1 hit on each mob,so i can watch system's message.Check dmg is not normal again.These numbers were most of my nuke dmg during that night.
First gm response after watching the pics ive sent(including these)is that it seems i didnt had blessed spirishots on.I told him spirishots were turned on in my bar and i could see their glow in my weapon on each nuke.
Personally ive made 2 thoughts.
1)The random regenarator hit me pretty bad and i did all the fails i havent done last years all together.
In this pic yes you see the reflect dmg of buff+fz
but it was taken the first time ive died and i was scrolling up the system to see what went wrong...too many numbers there,no regular dmg but all low numbers like this.
Known facts:
- if your spell gets interrupted you receive a system message
- if your spell gets resisted you receive a system message, and the damage is cut in half or so
- if your nuke fails you receive a system message, and the damage is 0 or 1 unless it's a magic crit (then it's 2-4)
Since there are no system messages in your damage logs, the following cases are possible:
1. (most probable) All the damage you did to mobs was caused by reflect shield/whatever, and you died BEFORE any of your nukes actually registered on the server and could do any damage at all
2. (hypothetical) Let's imagine, the mobs there got some kind of uber-UD, thus the low damage outputs from nukes, without additional system messages.
But from my experience, mobs' UD can't decrease a nuke's damage by hundreds times, i.e. if you normally hit for 3000-4000 then a UD'ed mob would receive around 200-300 dmg per nuke, at least.
So, I tend to think you repeatedly got some weird kind of lag where your packets got delayed too much while the server kept registering all the mobs' hits in time until you were dead.
Soloing before update was possible only on mobs around dino beach-inside dino trexes were patrolling everywhere and all mobs were aggro-.
Near beach mobs were hiting real hard but they were like 4 shots.I started solo there at 81 when i took skill vampiric mist(when this book droped on such lvl and ofc i want to thank my previous clan for book).Since we had lots of wars this place was good cause no random gangers would swim all the way from rune.It was like our secret spot and helped lvling some buffers and make some money from books too.
I just had an email answer from Gm,after checking my log files he sees i had a surge of ping time and since damage from mobs is always registered first my spells were overwritten so it was like i havent cast them, Aconyte you found it!
I asked Gm what i can do for ping,i play on euro server from a european country and my connection is propably the best in the market.
If you post anymore screenshots I would suggest using the ALL tab instead of the clan tab. Also expand your window to the maximum height so we can see more of the system messages. Showing only 7 lines is lol. If you expand to the maximum amount we would probably see about 40 lines.
I don't believe any bug is involved based on what I have seen. Your ping explanation is valid along with the reflect dmg explanation. Need more details to make a final determination.
If you post anymore screenshots I would suggest using the ALL tab instead of the clan tab. Also expand your window to the maximum height so we can see more of the system messages. Showing only 7 lines is lol. If you expand to the maximum amount we would probably see about 40 lines.
I don't believe any bug is involved based on what I have seen. Your ping explanation is valid along with the reflect dmg explanation. Need more details to make a final determination.
Case is allready ''solved'' you propably didnt pay attention.
If u look on screenshots u can see i ve scrolled the system message up.These were hits to/from mobs when i was alive,mobs can't hit a toon when it's dead.
All system was like that,very few regular dmg of 3.5-4k was done.My first thought was that i had too many fails(so when i see ''you gave to velocipt 35 dmg'' its a fail of my nuke).Watching carefully system message,i couldnt find the nukers decription,the right way is to read ''you used deathspike
atarth gave velocipt 3500 dmg''.This wasn't there,like my nukes were not happening at all but as i said i was pressing my skills and watching my toon perfoming all spell actions.The pic when message says ''you used vampiric claw'' but doesnt say if it failed or did 0 dmg is weird.
Gm answer was i had so high ping that system couldnt write down my skills and since its the mobs dmg that system ''see'' first i kept dieing cause mobs dmg was recorded to system and my nukes not.
Strange thing is that i could move my toon and cast my spells,in cases of high lag i hardly move or i froze.
A member from ally told me he expirienced same thing in dino a few days later,his spells didnt do any dmg.
I've asked gm what i can do to fix ping and he answered that there are so many rooters between a pc and a server,even in same country, that nothing can be done.
I must say im not reliefed since main reason i play in officiel is to have a good customer service and a server that would run smooth without lags(or at least i thought).
There are many threads complaining about lag,but imagine loging into a game that cant ''see'' your actions due to ping.......