1 -> Taking in consideration that no gm was at Luna until people reached 80
i would pretty much say that unban all people that was banned for botting
reasons(and the server had a lot of people playing, not just botting,
cause banning bots also made legits quit), just because we had fun then
in pvp, we could find people to party and at least we would still have
some fun killing bots...
2 -> We cant do anything now, there isn't people enough to do anything,
not even a good party to xp in a good place, only solo with box buffers
or quit...
3 -> People cant buy mats because there are no farmers... Bot is bad
i agree but GMs should've made something about it in the beginning , not
at level 80ish, when there are no legits cause they quitted long time ago,
last but not least if gms wanna make it free of bots, give 3 bot warnings,
if people continue, ban them, don't ban just because someone cry about it
and report, normally who reports is a botter too, just check them too,
try talk to the players on this server and gather some intel.
4 -> Anyway how come almost every enemy of enheit, T ally, were almost
all wiped, and the Russians seem to don't get hit?
The things that destroy the game are those pvp programs, cp spam,
radar, hide... and RMT!!!
The major problem is the players themselves - if you all would not have started to bot then Luna could have been a good server to be on, but you all failed and now enjoy the world you created.
1 -> Taking in consideration that no gm was at Luna until people reached 80
i would pretty much say that unban all people that was banned for botting
reasons(and the server had a lot of people playing, not just botting,
cause banning bots also made legits quit), just because we had fun then
in pvp, we could find people to party and at least we would still have
some fun killing bots...
2 -> We cant do anything now, there isn't people enough to do anything,
not even a good party to xp in a good place, only solo with box buffers
or quit...
3 -> People cant buy mats because there are no farmers... Bot is bad
i agree but GMs should've made something about it in the beginning , not
at level 80ish, when there are no legits cause they quitted long time ago,
last but not least if gms wanna make it free of bots, give 3 bot warnings,
if people continue, ban them, don't ban just because someone cry about it
and report, normally who reports is a botter too, just check them too,
try talk to the players on this server and gather some intel.
4 -> Anyway how come almost every enemy of enheit, T ally, were almost
all wiped, and the Russians seem to don't get hit?
The things that destroy the game are those pvp programs, cp spam,
radar, hide... and RMT!!!
1 -> Taking in consideration that no gm was at Luna until people reached 80
i would pretty much say that unban all people that was banned for botting
reasons(and the server had a lot of people playing, not just botting,
cause banning bots also made legits quit), just because we had fun then
in pvp, we could find people to party and at least we would still have
some fun killing bots...
2 -> We cant do anything now, there isn't people enough to do anything,
not even a good party to xp in a good place, only solo with box buffers
or quit...
3 -> People cant buy mats because there are no farmers... Bot is bad
i agree but GMs should've made something about it in the beginning , not
at level 80ish, when there are no legits cause they quitted long time ago,
last but not least if gms wanna make it free of bots, give 3 bot warnings,
if people continue, ban them, don't ban just because someone cry about it
and report, normally who reports is a botter too, just check them too,
try talk to the players on this server and gather some intel.
4 -> Anyway how come almost every enemy of enheit, T ally, were almost
all wiped, and the Russians seem to don't get hit?
The things that destroy the game are those pvp programs, cp spam,
radar, hide... and RMT!!!
Hope it makes sense. Discuss!
regards
Most Luna's toons were made by players that play L2 for years and found a new server as good chance to become first the big power and farm all epics.And ofc they used bot to lvl since they knew it worked from older servers,still they had to log also in their main server to battle for oly/epics.Luna became something like a second server job,to farm epics.
Many legit players tried Luna as a chance to play L2 in a fresh start,equal among others,since in their servers they couldnt bit the top(and full bots/ebay/programs)clans and quit as soon as they realised Luna wasnt a fresh start.
You are right,gms were not there to ban bots from day 1 of server.If they did so,players who saw Luna as a second job server would have left and the legit ones would have stay and would form a clean server.But again,with current xp/drop rate and with no korean content,a clean server cant follow the game chronicles.Luna's players would stuck in b and a grade gear.
On Frantz same thing happened when it oppened ,a fellowship of 50 +players and many others who came later-who played on low rate prives and knew L2 very well-came with the dream to recreate their clan in full glory in officiel.Their dream varnished some months later when they saw a russian clan involving so much quicker than them,lvls/gear that was impossible to make.Russian clan wared them/pked them,they fight back for 1 year before seeing that this clan not only was using botting/huge ebay but also knew some exploit secrets and was making +10 weapons for all their top members.The end for this fellowship was most quit highly dissapointed,sold their toons and dont play L2 anymore.The ones that stayed continued battling but unless they also used cheating they were ''meat'',became botters/ebayers,when the first big banhammer begun one after another varnished and their last members got banned recently.
In my view the Nsc should decide from the begining
-either provide the full korean content which makes L2 playble without the need of bot/ebay.
-either leave the adenaseller companys and bot players in their peace.
The people that were screaming about bots were so few compairing to the ones that use programs that Nsc wouldnt loose customers.But now they did lost all their customers since the ones that were banned and botted another toon and got banned again left for good,the ones that didnt want to bot/ebay have a huge difference from end game players that dont need to bot any more cause all they do is to farm raids and oly and the ones that were planning to use bot to make some money in game are scared of banning so they quit also.
Most Luna's toons were made by players that play L2 for years and found a new server as good chance to become first the big power and farm all epics.And ofc they used bot to lvl since they knew it worked from older servers,still they had to log also in their main server to battle for oly/epics.Luna became something like a second server job,to farm epics.
Many legit players tried Luna as a chance to play L2 in a fresh start,equal among others,since in their servers they couldnt bit the top(and full bots/ebay/programs)clans and quit as soon as they realised Luna wasnt a fresh start.
You are right,gms were not there to ban bots from day 1 of server.If they did so,players who saw Luna as a second job server would have left and the legit ones would have stay and would form a clean server.But again,with current xp/drop rate and with no korean content,a clean server cant follow the game chronicles.Luna's players would stuck in b and a grade gear.
On Frantz same thing happened when it oppened ,a fellowship of 50 +players and many others who came later-who played on low rate prives and knew L2 very well-came with the dream to recreate their clan in full glory in officiel.Their dream varnished some months later when they saw a russian clan involving so much quicker than them,lvls/gear that was impossible to make.Russian clan wared them/pked them,they fight back for 1 year before seeing that this clan not only was using botting/huge ebay but also knew some exploit secrets and was making +10 weapons for all their top members.The end for this fellowship was most quit highly dissapointed,sold their toons and dont play L2 anymore.The ones that stayed continued battling but unless they also used cheating they were ''meat'',became botters/ebayers,when the first big banhammer begun one after another varnished and their last members got banned recently.
In my view the Nsc should decide from the begining
-either provide the full korean content which makes L2 playble without the need of bot/ebay.
-either leave the adenaseller companys and bot players in their peace.
The people that were screaming about bots were so few compairing to the ones that use programs that Nsc wouldnt loose customers.But now they did lost all their customers since the ones that were banned and botted another toon and got banned again left for good,the ones that didnt want to bot/ebay have a huge difference from end game players that dont need to bot any more cause all they do is to farm raids and oly and the ones that were planning to use bot to make some money in game are scared of banning so they quit also.
In my view the Nsc should decide from the begining
-either provide the full korean content which makes L2 playble without the need of bot/ebay.
-either leave the adenaseller companys and bot players in their peace.
The people that were screaming about bots were so few compairing to the ones that use programs that Nsc wouldnt loose customers.But now they did lost all their customers since the ones that were banned and botted another toon and got banned again left for good,the ones that didnt want to bot/ebay have a huge difference from end game players that dont need to bot any more cause all they do is to farm raids and oly and the ones that were planning to use bot to make some money in game are scared of banning so they quit also.
1 -> Taking in consideration that no gm was at Luna until people reached 80
i would pretty much say that unban all people that was banned for botting
reasons(and the server had a lot of people playing, not just botting,
cause banning bots also made legits quit), just because we had fun then
in pvp, we could find people to party and at least we would still have
some fun killing bots...
2 -> We cant do anything now, there isn't people enough to do anything,
not even a good party to xp in a good place, only solo with box buffers
or quit...
3 -> People cant buy mats because there are no farmers... Bot is bad
i agree but GMs should've made something about it in the beginning , not
at level 80ish, when there are no legits cause they quitted long time ago,
last but not least if gms wanna make it free of bots, give 3 bot warnings,
if people continue, ban them, don't ban just because someone cry about it
and report, normally who reports is a botter too, just check them too,
try talk to the players on this server and gather some intel.
4 -> Anyway how come almost every enemy of enheit, T ally, were almost
all wiped, and the Russians seem to don't get hit?
The things that destroy the game are those pvp programs, cp spam,
radar, hide... and RMT!!!
Hope it makes sense. Discuss!
regards
Luna & Franz were both attempts at starting new in the game but both failed due to having rules that were not fairly or responsibly enforced. It was because of the wide spread casual use of 3rd party programs AND the get to the top or bust attitude of several clans and the GMs inability/knowledge of the game.
Strong security from the beginning would make luna a normal server.
Anyway there is something we can do on Luna :D
We have the big Enheit clan that goes on Tiat/raids,and has almost all heroes of the server.
We all xp until we become 84 or sth and join there xD
consistent failure to ban bots in a timely fashion throughout the entire length of this game has created what we see now. and now it's too late to change anything even by banning current bots. Smart higher level people who did bot in the past have stopped botting so you can't get them for that anymore.
my advice to new players who want pvp: play a wanted support class, join a top clan who will take a somewhat lower level support, then sub or box a DD or whatever other class you really want to play, and enjoy being part of whatever action is left while playing with and against all the current and former bots of the servers. it's the only way left to get anywhere near end game pvp as a legit.
and NC refuses to merge yet because they can still milk you for $50 more for your transfer off, gf.
Scam in my honest opinion ... the only server worth saving any more is only one NC makes money on where they left the 9 man parties running till they hit 80? Is this what the thread is about?